Hi,
I have just bought a tilt unlocked to use with my T-mobile prepaid card.
I will use the device principally like GPS and VOIP calls, this is my first PDA and I bought the tilt for the triband 3g (for the voip calls) that I can use in europe too (I'm italian) and for the inbuilt gps.
I was stupid and just discovered that t-mobile has different bands for the 3g, and that my tilt will not work with it, more I can't do an ATT plan because I have no social security number. If I would have discovered this before I would have bought a cheaper edge symbian phone with inbuilt gps
Here the questions:
There is an other carrier for 3g that will work with my tilt?
I don't want to pay a data plans with T-mobile that I will not use: is acceptable the quality of voip calls with t-mobile or I need to switch to a different carrier?
Thank you for your help
I've just fund here
att prepaid data
that att offers prepaid flat data, but I don't see nothing on their website
fund!
medianet
I asked and replied by myself
only the last question: will be possible to use voip on medianet or ATT has some limit to voip?
is possible to set up media net and have "normal" access to all websites?
Related
Is there any way of knowing in which countries GPRS will work in? I've got a T-Mobile MDA Vario and on one or two occasions I wasn't able to get GPRS up and running in order to browse the net. Just wondering if it doesn't work in some countries or if that was a coincidence.
Isn't there a list of countries/companies which T-Mobile have roaming agreements with on the T-Mobile website ?
Yes but this only indicates where you can use the phone. My understanding is that this does not necessarily include GPRS/data availability or access.
Yes, just because you can roam does not mean you can use GPRS. I do not think that info is on www.gsm.org either. Drop an email to T-Mobile customer service if it isn't on their site.
Must admit I always buy a local SIM for data usage now that many operators have pre-paid GPRS.
GPRS abroad..
T-Mobile do have partners abroad - for the preferred network to use and cheaper calls - but that doesn't mean you will get any of your GPRS allowance wheilst roaming.
I have the Web'n'walk tariff , but my mobile bill was still over £160 when I got back after a week in Eire.
I think the GPRS / MMS data usage was at their standard roaming tariff.,, whatever that is.
Charlie Grillo
Some examples
I couldn't use GPRS with O2 in UK (where T-Mobile wasn't available). I had no trouble with multiple carriers in Barcelona and always found T-Mobile itself in Frankfurt and Bonn. GRPS works in Paris (didn't note the carrier) and never worked with any of NINE partners in Taiwan last year.
prestonmcafee, thanks for the examples. Your visit to the UK must have been some time ago, T-Mobile exists here now, I think they initially came in the market a couple of years back when they acquired what used to be one to one, or whatever they were called.
Yesterday!
Sorry I wasn't clear, what I meant was that I couldn't get GPRS in the UK in the places where T-Mobile wasn't available; T-Mobile is usually available but not always. Victoria Station and Heathrow have places where T-Mobile's signal is so low that the automatic connection on a US T-Mobile phone connects to O2, and in this case, GPRS will fail.
Sometimes, but not usually, a manual connection would turn up T-mobile even when the phone had connected to O2.
I just returned from 5 weeks in the UK yesterday.
LOL
I'm in Australia and there are a few HSDPA providers of Mobile internet (a sim card that u can stick in a usb stick to get the web on ur laptop)
Do you need any special software to use these sim cards in a blackstone to access HSDPA, and possibly use VOIP instead over the internet? or is it probably not worth it.
I'd really like to ditch my overpriced vodafone mobile. $4 per megabyte of data seems like alot.
If you want to use data with Vodafone you have to add a plan to your mobile sim as if you use data with out a plan it cost the world, have to mortgage house!!!
If you do that you could use Voip and if HSDPA isn't available you still can use the phone as normal.
Not sure about voip software as I haven't used voip with HSDPA only Skype with WiFi.
You're right the data plans are slightly better but they're still excessive!
I was wondering if I could ditch the mobile part and get a pure data plan (vodafone calls it mobile broadband) like on this page (targeted at laptops) and use it in my phone instead?
http://vodafone.com.au/personal/mobilebroadband/what-is-mobile-broadband.htm
Greetings All,
After some disagreement with Bell, I've tried to find some truth regarding smart phone plans and the OMNIA II. The Bell representatives stated the Omnia II will only work with a smartphone plans (which conveniently start at $50 Ouch!)
Supposedly if I outright buy the phone (full price) I won't be forced into a contract. Assuming I'm contract free... can I subscribe to a cheaper monthly voice plan only?
The goal is to use the phone as a WM 6.5 PDA and surf only when in the vicinity of WIFI (home and office etc). For the few phone calls I make (which avg 4-5 a month - yes I hate talking on a cell phone), a simple voice plan with basic text messaging should suffice?
The issues surrounding this are:
A. Has this been done successfully before - is anyone doing it now???
B. When a WIFI hotspot isn't available, will the browser fail or will it secretly connect to the cellular network and ding me with data charges?
C. Having no prior experience with a GPS enabled cell phone - this "A-GPS" needs the data package to work? Or can I use it with a voice plan only?
D. I've heard stories of smartphones constantly talking to the cellular network, is this an issue? or is there a way to disable the data connections forcing it to use WIFI only?
E. Would any of this warrent unlocking the phone? Bell stated it comes locked with a Bell SIM card (its on their HSPA+ network).
Again, the goal is to use it as a suped' up PDA, surf only on WIFI and subscribe to a bare bones phone package for that occasional call I might make.
Suggestions? Comments? Advice?
KevinStraight said:
Greetings All,
After some disagreement with Bell, I've tried to find some truth regarding smart phone plans and the OMNIA II. The Bell representatives stated the Omnia II will only work with a smartphone plans (which conveniently start at $50 Ouch!)
Supposedly if I outright buy the phone (full price) I won't be forced into a contract. Assuming I'm contract free... can I subscribe to a cheaper monthly voice plan only?
The goal is to use the phone as a WM 6.5 PDA and surf only when in the vicinity of WIFI (home and office etc). For the few phone calls I make (which avg 4-5 a month - yes I hate talking on a cell phone), a simple voice plan with basic text messaging should suffice?
The issues surrounding this are:
A. Has this been done successfully before - is anyone doing it now???
B. When a WIFI hotspot isn't available, will the browser fail or will it secretly connect to the cellular network and ding me with data charges?
C. Having no prior experience with a GPS enabled cell phone - this "A-GPS" needs the data package to work? Or can I use it with a voice plan only?
D. I've heard stories of smartphones constantly talking to the cellular network, is this an issue? or is there a way to disable the data connections forcing it to use WIFI only?
E. Would any of this warrent unlocking the phone? Bell stated it comes locked with a Bell SIM card (its on their HSPA+ network).
Again, the goal is to use it as a suped' up PDA, surf only on WIFI and subscribe to a bare bones phone package for that occasional call I might make.
Suggestions? Comments? Advice?
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Re: Disabling GPRS - try NoData from Modaco - its a freeware, just google for it and disable all your data plans.
O2 will work with just voice plan
A. Omnia 2 will work with just a voice plan, I used mine in the Cook Islands last week with just a voice plan SIM.
B.The problem is that Bell offers data with the phone setting so you would have to make sure you disable the data, not just with Opera or the GPS, or you will incur data charges and they will roll up quickly. Most likely they offer the bundle (I have it and fine it a very reasonable plan for my phone use) because people regularly use data by mistake.
C. GPS Worked just fine. I couldn't use google maps but no problem, there's only one real road
D. As long as you are not using push email or any application that accesses the internet automatically you should not incur charges.
E.You don't have to unlock the phone unless you want to go with a different provider than Bell.
Are you set on having an Omnia 2? Perhaps a better option would be to purchase an unlocked Omnia 2 and a pay as you go SIM from a provider that does not have data.
Good luck.
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That rep was full of ****. Buy the phone outright, and call Bell and ask them to disable the data for you so you never have to second guess or accidentally use data on your phone. Be careful, you must disable data on every sim card you decide to use.
KevinStraight said:
Greetings All,
After some disagreement with Bell, I've tried to find some truth regarding smart phone plans and the OMNIA II. The Bell representatives stated the Omnia II will only work with a smartphone plans (which conveniently start at $50 Ouch!)
Supposedly if I outright buy the phone (full price) I won't be forced into a contract. Assuming I'm contract free... can I subscribe to a cheaper monthly voice plan only?
The goal is to use the phone as a WM 6.5 PDA and surf only when in the vicinity of WIFI (home and office etc). For the few phone calls I make (which avg 4-5 a month - yes I hate talking on a cell phone), a simple voice plan with basic text messaging should suffice?
The issues surrounding this are:
A. Has this been done successfully before - is anyone doing it now???
B. When a WIFI hotspot isn't available, will the browser fail or will it secretly connect to the cellular network and ding me with data charges?
C. Having no prior experience with a GPS enabled cell phone - this "A-GPS" needs the data package to work? Or can I use it with a voice plan only?
D. I've heard stories of smartphones constantly talking to the cellular network, is this an issue? or is there a way to disable the data connections forcing it to use WIFI only?
E. Would any of this warrent unlocking the phone? Bell stated it comes locked with a Bell SIM card (its on their HSPA+ network).
Again, the goal is to use it as a suped' up PDA, surf only on WIFI and subscribe to a bare bones phone package for that occasional call I might make.
Suggestions? Comments? Advice?
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I just signed a three year contract with Bell, a few weeks ago i was surfing on their site and like you said , impossible to get a Omnia 2 without a data plan, last week i went back on, and I dont know if its a bug, but you can order one with a regular voice plan, i took the 30$ plan ( cheapest) got the phone by mail , free.
If i click on my connections on top you can disable all data, and only use wifi. If it does want to use data it warns you before activating it.
Hope this helps
Hi,
please allow me to ask this stupid question
according to the spec, it supports GSM network, does it mean I can insert my normal phone SIM card to it and make phone call?
I don't really want to have a data plan and simply just use my normal SIM card (if it's possible), and then use WIFI when access is possible (at home or in the office).
I am very curious if I can make phone call with it, so I don't have to use my current phone anymore
thanks
It would help if you did a bit of research into the product you intend on purchasing, as any review will tell you, the galaxy tab IS a phone.
If you have an EU model, it will support and allow phone calls.
CANADA ones I think you can make calls, but not out of the box.
US models do NOT support phone calls (Skype may work?)
ASIA Models seem to come without marketplace.
risp is partially right in regards to the USA models (T-mobile / AT&T) out of the box these 2 tabs are not able to make phone calls just use 3G, but if you flash a Euro Rom it will allow you to make phone calls, and you can get Edge (only using an AT&T or Simple Mobile Sim) on both AT&T and T-mobile tabs. Since you stated that you will use wifi either at home or office then you can choose either one of the two and just flash the Euro Rom and you will be set to make phone calls.
adinis78 said:
risp is partially right in regards to the USA models (T-mobile / AT&T) out of the box these 2 tabs are not able to make phone calls just use 3G, but if you flash a Euro Rom it will allow you to make phone calls, and you can get Edge (only using an AT&T or Simple Mobile Sim) on both AT&T and T-mobile tabs. Since you stated that you will use wifi either at home or office then you can choose either one of the two and just flash the Euro Rom and you will be set to make phone calls.
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OK, I just called Rogers (a Canada carrier), it surprises me that the staff told me it cannot make phone calls. The GSM network only supports the data.
when you said flashing a different Rom can make phone calls, does it mean, the Canada or US model doesn't come with that software to make phone calls?
I haven't seen the device myself yet, is there a place I can insert a SIM card to it, and the device and recognize it? If yes, I am sure there is a way to use it.
It IS an do-it-all marvel
It is a one-unit that does-it-all (including voice calls) if you are anywhere but North America.
Here, the service providers are only offering units with the voice call capability locked out. Apparently want us to carry around two units, a tab and a phone like in the iWorld. Hum. Why? Could it be they want to get deeper in our pockets?
I have a regional service provider that that doesn't sell the Tab. But they promised me if I bought one from the UK (Clove Technology) and put their sim card from my old phone in it, they would give me both voice and data service. Very reasonable.
They don't "support" it but the local staff was so excited to get their hands on it and and play that they had me up and functioning in seconds.
I'm very pleased with it and don't see any reason why any provider that offers voice and data service on your current phone wouldn't be willing to let you pay them for the same service on an unlocked, fully functional Tab that you got from wherever.
Treemann said:
It is a one-unit that does-it-all (including voice calls) if you are anywhere but North America.
Here, the service providers are only offering units with the voice call capability locked out. Apparently want us to carry around two units, a tab and a phone like in the iWorld. Hum. Why? Could it be they want to get deeper in our pockets?
I have a regional service provider that that doesn't sell the Tab. But they promised me if I bought one from the UK (Clove Technology) and put their sim card from my old phone in it, they would give me both voice and data service. Very reasonable.
They don't "support" it but the local staff was so excited to get their hands on it and and play that they had me up and functioning in seconds.
I'm very pleased with it and don't see any reason why any provider that offers voice and data service on your current phone wouldn't be willing to let you pay them for the same service on an unlocked, fully functional Tab that you got from wherever.
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T-Mobile is filtering voice because they don't want it to be looked at as a big smart phone. They want it to be a real iPad competitor so they are doing everything they can to make people believe it isn't just a big smart phone but rather something new. Of course we know it is just a big smart phone and naturally we want to makes calls on it but T-Mobile isn't having any of that.
Same with the other carriers in the US.
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adinis78 said:
risp is partially right in regards to the USA models (T-mobile / AT&T) out of the box these 2 tabs are not able to make phone calls just use 3G, but if you flash a Euro Rom it will allow you to make phone calls, and you can get Edge (only using an AT&T or Simple Mobile Sim) on both AT&T and T-mobile tabs. Since you stated that you will use wifi either at home or office then you can choose either one of the two and just flash the Euro Rom and you will be set to make phone calls.
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I was hoping I could get the galaxy tab to run 3g and also provide voice on ATT. It sounds like either you can get 3g data only, or edge data and voice if you are using an euro rom. Is it possible to get 3g and voice on Att by using a euro rom and jumping through some hoops?
Hoping I can just retire the iphone and switch over to the galaxy tab.
Thanks,
John
jdogsupreme said:
I was hoping I could get the galaxy tab to run 3g and also provide voice on ATT. It sounds like either you can get 3g data only, or edge data and voice if you are using an euro rom. Is it possible to get 3g and voice on Att by using a euro rom and jumping through some hoops?
Hoping I can just retire the iphone and switch over to the galaxy tab.
Thanks,
John
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The AT&T TAB can do 3G and voice at the same time with the EURO firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847273
I found that thread by searching for the words AT&T and TAB. Stay away from the T-Mobile TAB if your service is through AT&T.
I use my pure with t-mobile and will travel to Japan next month for 1 week. I read that wifi calling is not available on this phone at all. I plan to rent a portable hotspot anyhow, so does the sms or mms still work?
I was also checking out how to turn off data roaming on my phone and noticed it was already off but hasn't affected anything so far. Is that normal? I was hoping to at least have text working or would have to revert to email to keep in contact with my family if we separate.
I'm not entirely sure what you are asking here... SMS and MMS will need a connection to T-Mobile, the later will require data connection.
WiFi isn't really "international" or US or Japan, it is just WiFi... although there are some regulatory aspects to it (and channel restrictions in the US), your WiFi should work just fine in Japan. Before getting or renting a hotspot, check out where you are going and look into Softbank's Free WiFi Passport and Travel Japan WiFi, they require registration but can get you free WiFi at almost 500,000 locations in Japan for 2 weeks, there are also paid WiFi networks you can subscribe to. http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2279.html
You might want to look into a Google Voice account, set it up before you go, or get a local SIM.
You could also change your T-Mobile plan to T-Mobile ONE and Simple Choice North America for the term you are there, it would likely cost more but offers free data, text and 20 cent/min voice calls.
chitin said:
I use my pure with t-mobile and will travel to Japan next month for 1 week. I read that wifi calling is not available on this phone at all. I plan to rent a portable hotspot anyhow, so does the sms or mms still work?
I was also checking out how to turn off data roaming on my phone and noticed it was already off but hasn't affected anything so far. Is that normal? I was hoping to at least have text working or would have to revert to email to keep in contact with my family if we separate.
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By chance did you end up testing your data speeds in Japan? I am going there in a month and am trying to avoid a pocket wifi unless absolutely needed.
jjchdc said:
By chance did you end up testing your data speeds in Japan? I am going there in a month and am trying to avoid a pocket wifi unless absolutely needed.
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I leave on Friday and may end up getting a pocket wifi for 1 week @ $50. T-mobile said my data and all text is still unlimited over there but it caps at 3G speed and I prefer to to have something with us instead of looking for wifi hotspots. Voice calls are $.20/minute, so wifi will have to be enough.
acejavelin said:
I'm not entirely sure what you are asking here... SMS and MMS will need a connection to T-Mobile, the later will require data connection.
WiFi isn't really "international" or US or Japan, it is just WiFi... although there are some regulatory aspects to it (and channel restrictions in the US), your WiFi should work just fine in Japan. Before getting or renting a hotspot, check out where you are going and look into Softbank's Free WiFi Passport and Travel Japan WiFi, they require registration but can get you free WiFi at almost 500,000 locations in Japan for 2 weeks, there are also paid WiFi networks you can subscribe to. http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2279.html
You might want to look into a Google Voice account, set it up before you go, or get a local SIM.
You could also change your T-Mobile plan to T-Mobile ONE and Simple Choice North America for the term you are there, it would likely cost more but offers free data, text and 20 cent/min voice calls.
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Does google voice use data only? I have a Voice acct and if I rent a personal hotspot, that would work out nicely. I'm a little worried about not being able to make any voice calls in Japan since there's a T-mobile charge. But if our hotspot covers text and google voice, I think we're all set.
chitin said:
I leave on Friday and may end up getting a pocket wifi for 1 week @ $50. T-mobile said my data and all text is still unlimited over there but it caps at 3G speed and I prefer to to have something with us instead of looking for wifi hotspots. Voice calls are $.20/minute, so wifi will have to be enough.
Does google voice use data only? I have a Voice acct and if I rent a personal hotspot, that would work out nicely. I'm a little worried about not being able to make any voice calls in Japan since there's a T-mobile charge. But if our hotspot covers text and google voice, I think we're all set.
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It can... Install the Google Voice app or use the Hangouts Dialer plugin.and it can run completely on data.
thats what i am planning to do when i go to the carribean for a few months. i dont have tmobile but when i get there im going to do google voice on one of my phones and a simcard from there for another. check your prices though because what i found is amazing over there. so which ever works cheapest i may go with, but i have been integrated with google voice for years with sprint
30 Day 10 GB $30.00 a month/US