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I bought my qtek last week and trying ever since to get it connected with my carkit..
Sometimes this works and I can hear and talk through my carkit. Other times it only rings through my carkit and when i pick it up it disconnectw with the carkit and goes back to the qtek. Or it doesn't connect at all.
I've tried several things..
-first I wanted to try the new bluetooth patches.. this works a little better for example without switching on the qtek and turning the key, they automatically connect. Not all times but ik works a little better.
-trying to put a new ROM version on my qtek, got a country id error.. Got rid of it using the xda3nfbtool.. then got a radio image file checksum error.. Don't know how to bypass this because it has to do with the passwords in the xda3nfbtool.exe..
So now I'm here, hoping that some wizzkids know how to get a permanently good bt connection...
Who dares??? Or has suggestions??
Thanks in advance,
Sorry my english isn't my main language
BMW BT with Blue Angel
Same problem here. Have tried all available patches. the 3500 BT version works with the least amount of trouble. But even with this one I never know how long it will take to get it working and wether I will hit a tree in the meantime.
A Friend of mine uses the Motorola Carkit with no problem. I think the BMW System is too complicated with i5s address-book synch to work. By the way, how many adresses do you havein your qtek?
Hi,
I do have at least a very similar problerm with my Audi BT. I can connect, it works just fine when I make a call, BUT it looses connection after picking up an incoming call...
I tried all stacks I could get my hands on from 1900 thru 2400 till 3500 and even 6600...
Anyone with an idea!?
TIA
PEACE AND B WILD!
Re: BMW BT with Blue Angel
jofeuerstein said:
Same problem here. Have tried all available patches. the 3500 BT version works with the least amount of trouble. But even with this one I never know how long it will take to get it working and wether I will hit a tree in the meantime.
A Friend of mine uses the Motorola Carkit with no problem. I think the BMW System is too complicated with i5s address-book synch to work. By the way, how many adresses do you havein your qtek?
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Don't know how many adresses, about 150... But at this time I have none in the PDA, just to test if the BT connection will work... But it has to do with the connection and not the adress book... I just found out that different models of BMW could have different model of BT carkits. And BMW uses a siemens carkit according to a mechanic from BMW.
I hope someone has the brains to pull this of.. Because how is it possible to get a only sometimes connection. This means that it could work, or is that just my postive attitude.
bmw car kits
by wot i understand bmw are about 100000 years behind with there software on the car kits 6600 t610 v600 etc all work but your new one dropn in and out all the time
Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
Re: Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
jofeuerstein said:
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
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Can you tell which type of BMW you drive?? And if it's not to much trouble then mention the ROM, Radio version etc you have on your PDA... That is what I (and maybe others) would like to know.
Thanks in advance..
You say that sometimes it takes up to 15 min to get a connection! Maybe this could be due to the phonebook.. I don't no for certain, but if you're BMW tries to take over the adress book of your PDA that could take a while with 4000 entries.. What you could try is, if you're synchronising with your computer leave out the adresses in active sync. So that there are no adresses in your PDA. Then try to pair with the BMW and see what it does... Maybe then it works faster... I'm curious if you get a good connection between the PDA and the Beemer.... Please let me know.
Greetz
Have just installed:
ROM version 1.22.00. WWE
Radio version 1.06.02
ExtROM version 1.22.557 WWE
Tried it AGAIN in my BMW...
First time connection --> connection failed, BT BMW says erfolgreich (succeeded)
Switch contact on/off --> everything works I can phone, and incoming calls also work.. That's how it's suppose to be
Switch contact on/off --> There is a pairing, but as soon as I get an incoming call the phone goes off in the car, but when I answer afther a few seconds the connection is gone.
Switch bluetooth on/off on PDA --> It works again??!!?!
So a early conclusion is that the bluetooth has to be totally switched off when the PDA is off.. If phone rings PDA switches on and connects to carkit.. Does anbody know if this is possible, then I will try it out???
Thanks
I think I have found a solution. I'm not sure but so far this works..
Now I need someone to help with the following...
The bluetooth on the PDA must be switched of when you turn the ignition.
Then when you have your car running you switch on the bleutooth on the PDA... They pair and connect... I've tried it several times and it works...
Now when you switch of your car and turn it back on again the pairing will work but there is no connection. So in my case the phone rings in the car but when i pick it up it switches back to the PDA..
Conclusion; Only when the PDA is switched on the Bleutooth is allowed to switch on... So when you're being phoned, first the PDA goes on and a few seconds later the carkit is active and you're able to pick up through the steering wheel..
SO THIS IS IMPORTANT..
Is someone capable to make a prog. or to delete something in the original bluetooth prog. in PDA that the bleutooth function isn't always ON, only when you put on your PDA...
I really hope someone can help??!?!?!?!
Thanks
Re: Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
jofeuerstein said:
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
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What is the "this small fix on the download section)" Can't find what you mean?
@tbd: forget the fix. It was an older version that I mistakenly downloaded ->my mistake
@dennis123
In the meantime I use:
Ext. Rom 1.22.01 GER
ROM-Datum 10/26/04
Radio-Version 1.06.02
Protokoll Version 1337.38
ExtROM 1.22.182
Bluetooth 1.0.0.3500
Yesterday morning I went to my car with BT OFF, turned the car on, turned BT on and it worked flawlessly.
Yesterday evening I went to the car with BT ON, turned the car on, and the BT paired, but during the first call it dropped the connection.
Same today. => I have at least one reproducable way to get the darn thing working. I can't say that satisfies me, but i will stop wasting time with this ;-)
Has anyone tried this with BT 3900 ?
PS: Somebody asked what kind of BMW: The car is an X5 build in 9/04, with the Bluetooth interface and without navigation.
I searched and didn't find any previous postings regarding an issue with Parrot and Audi Hands Free (Bluetooth) car kits and the TyTn.
This issue is only with the TyTn and the Wizard devices work fine.
It seems to pair fine with the car kits but 5 minutes into usage...the TyTn turns the bluetooth off on the device.
Then about 1 min later, turns Bluetooth on again. The cycle then begins Off and then On ....
Here's a link on the Parrot forum.
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=2667
I've got the same problem with my Seat Leon (new model) bluetooth carkit !!!
I think it's the same module as in the Audi (all VAG related cars).
It's very irritating !
I hope they will fix it soon....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58789&highlight=
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Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
Pyranwolf said:
Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
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I'm going to try this !
I hope that it works.
Thanks anyway.
What kind of Leon do you have ?
I've got an A6 with BT kit and am having this problem. I cannot make/receive a call whilst running my BT GPS device & TomTom, although from reading this the issue may be the Audi kit anyhow.
Are there any fixes available - be it HTC or Audi? Or are there any work-arounds, such as add-on software for the TyTN??
Please help - it is driving me mad. Spoiling what is otherwise a great piece of kit.
I have been having this exact problem with my Audi A4 with Audi Bluetooth.
I did wonder if it was in some way connected with the phone going into sleepy mode as it is being powered by the phone battery.
Also, the bluetooth stops responding after 5-10 minutes, but if I am continously using the phone, it seems to be ok.
Therefore, I think I need to buy an in car charger, and see what happens...
Has anybody else tried this that can confirm it works?
Markee
Just a quick note to Paul_o
My Audi A4 / SPV M3100 / Tom Tom / Bluetooth GPS work fine together.
If I am in Tom Tom, and get an incoming call, the little call window pops up over Tom Tom, Tom Tom carries on and the phone audio is routed through the speakers - the only irritating thing is that the Tom Tom lady keeps interrupting... :wink:
Mark
Hi,
I'm using Vario 2 with Audi Bluetooth and also having the BT ON - BT OFF issues.
These are my findings.
- Without JETWARE software:
- BT goes ON and OFF in the car regardless of the VARIO 2 being on or stand-by, or the phone being battery powered or connected to the car.
- Once a conversation is started the BT connection seems to be remain ON.
- With JETWARE software
- If I leave the screen always on the BT connection stays always ON. Only backlight automatic switch-off is selected
- I have tried several screen toggle programs (which claim that they only power down the screen) but the BT goes OFF in the car after a few minutes.
I'm happy to test any other proposal.
Cheers,
C
What version of JetWare are you running, they have a beta which has settings for the Audi kit, this may help, there is also a registry setting that is meant to change the power settings when bt is connected. An extract from an email conversation with Jetware...
We have also addressed the power issue, but this fix requires a registry change. Please create a DWORD registry value in HKLM\Software\JETware\AGExt named InSessionPower with a value of 0 (valid values are 0-4, with lower values indicating greater power availability). This will tell the OS that the Bluetooth device should stay at full power while it is in a Hands-free session.
Not sure if this will help, my Hermes is ariving on Monday, I'm was hoping that all the problems i've had with my magicain and the audi kit would go away with the Hermes, but maybe not.
Give the key a go and let me know
Hi dh,
thanks for your reply.
I haven't installed the Beta version yet. However I have changed the registry setting and will test first thing tomorrow. If this doesn't fix the problem I will try the Beta version with the Audi setting.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers,
Carles
Hi dh,
I have tested the two proposals (Change in the registry and the Beta version + Audi settings) without much luck. The BT connection with the car keeps going ON and OFF when the phone is running on battery.
Have you got your Hermes? any luck?
Thanks,
Carles
Got my Hermes (Orange M3100) a couple of days ago. I've installed the JetWare extention, and without the InSessionPower set the connection is dropped. So far with the setting applied it has stayed connected. I have had other problems like not being able to make calls etc, which is a bit of a issue. I need to do some more testing, as i've been messing with the phone a bit.
I'll update here in a couple of days
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
Hi dh,
You will see from my previous postings I have had the same problems too.
It should be noted, though, that the Vario (wizard) worked flawlessly with the Audi A4 Bluetooth without Jetware software.
Has anybody been able to prove there is no problems if the phone (SPVM3100) is powered whilst in the car?
Cheers
Mark
I have a factory fitted hands free system in my Vauxhall. Every other phone you can think of works with it...EXCEPT my XDA mini. It seems to pair up, but there is no signal showing from the carkit. It might work for a minute and then it drops out. Is it the XDA or Vauxhall that's at fault? It seems that nobody knows the answer and I paid serious money for this bit of car kit. I like the phone, it really is annoying. I have tried another XDA mini as well and that doesn't work either. Does anybody else have a Vauxhall with the same built-in system and not connecting?
Markee
I've had the phone plugged in without the registry entry and it seemed to be ok. If I can get to a stage of a working solution i'll test again without the registry entry and with external power.
dh said:
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
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I'm guessing that since they went from BT1.1 to BT2.0 they had to make a new stack.
My Wizard worked PERFECTLY on my Parrot, my TyTN is almost useless on it.
you make a very good point ScottC, that'll be what it is.
Just driven home and could not make a single call with Jetware installed. Removed it and i could at least make a call, but i didn't get any status info or phone book. I didn't get a chance to leave it connected without Jetware for longer enough to see if it disconnected without external power, i imagine it will. I will test some more later/tomorrow. I'll also send an email to Jetware to see what there thoughts are regarding bt v2.0 and their product
Hello,
I have an Audi A3 with the factory fitted Phone kit but without the Audi Craddle so I'm using the Bluetooth connection.
I have tried the Vario (Wizard/QTEK 9100) and Vario 2 (Hermes/TyTN) and had similar problems with the two of them. Once the connection is stablished I can make and receive calls without problems. The issue is that the BT connection goes ON and OFF without an apparent reason.
The only thing I have seen is that when the Vario is kept on (only the backlight is off) the BT connection normally stays ON, regardless of the phone being powered or not.
I have tried Jetware, the Beta version, the registry entry, programs to switch off the screen...but haven't seen any real difference.
I have bought a bluetooth USB stick and will do some test at home to see if the problem is with the car or the phone.
I called T-mobile and they said it was a faulty phone, but I don't think so.
Keep the postings, we might end up finding a solution
Cheers
C
Try upgrade the BT software. I had the same problem after that i upgraded de Parrot software. Now i have the version 4.16
Hi all,
I am unable to pair my XV6800 to my Pioneer DEH-P980BT car stereo. The phone detects the stereo and requests the PIN, but fails after I enter the PIN with a 'Cannot Connect, connection failed or pin is wrong' error. I have used this stereo with my xv6600 Blue Angel for over a year (Can you say Widcomm stack?).
Anyway, I have been unable to come up with fruitful answers or even a next good step by searching the forums or general internet searching. I am wondering if there is some kind of Bluetooth tool that would allow me to determine what actual error is occurring?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I had the exact same problem with the same head unit. Here's what I did to correct it:
Code:
The vario II identifies itself as a PDA bluetooth device. The pioneer modules are searching
for a phone or smartphone, so it just ignores the Vario II.
Solutions:
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
This can be done this way:
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems.
That SHOULD work for you. Please let me know if does, because when I do it, the stereo finds the handset fine, but I can't hear any conversation coming out the speakers. It's like it is on permanent mute. This also happens with my BT headset - all controls work, but I can't hear anything nor can people hear me. Plus, my Mogul's speaker cracks and pops when I try using it with another BT device. I think it may be a bad unit. I want to know if you have better luck with the Mogul and 980BT.
I am using the newest ROM (2.17) and radio. The same thing happens to me with the older 2.09 ROM also.
sup191
Eureka!
It worked! I had tried this COD change before and had tried initiating pairing from the stereo, but had not tried both at the same time. I am able to connect the phone and bluetooth stereo simultaneously, and both are working with excellent sound quality. That's leap and bounds from where I was yesterday. Thank you very much!
Regarding your problems, I am not experiencing them at all. I can hear both sides of a conversation as can the other side. As it stands I think I will have to manually pair every time I get in the car (a pain, but I will work on it).
I am not sure what differences exists between the Hermes and Titan, but I would be happy to investigate for you wherever I can. My ROM is version 2.09 and my radio is version 1.30.
Thanks again. Feel free to post or PM me if I can help you figure your issues out.
Thanks for the offer to help. I think my first step is going to Sprint and showing them that BT is crap on my Mogul and see if they'll swap it for me. I'm also going to try pairing my headset there on the demo and see if it works. If it does, my unit it broken. I'll let ya know what happens.
sup191
hey all
I cant seem to find a lot of info about this topic, so hoping you guys can help me out somehow.
is there any way of getting WM to join to handsfree bluetooth profile when i'm in my car (using pioneer headunit)?
reason being is pioneer head units require you to be connected to the phone in order to use the head unit to make calls, phonebook, etc
with my nokia back in the day, provided bluetooth was on, i would sit in my car and turn my ignition on. about 10-15 seconds later, the headunit joins with the phone. the phone says its connected to 'Pioneer BT unit' and the headunit shows the battery and signal level, and shows the correct phonebook.
with my jasjam (running blacksatin wm6 - although had the same problem on wm5), the pioneer unit doesn't join automatically... it is only after i receive or make a call using the phone, that it quickly joins to the headunit. even then, the person could have started talking before the audio fully comes through...
however this is not a problem there on, as once the bluetooth connection has been made, it remains, and everything works as it should.
so is there any registry hacks or programs i can run that will allow the headunit to make the connection to the handsfree profile once ignition is on in the car?
Cheers,
Bill
hi bcx7,
I had his problem too. It may depend on what head unit you are using, but perhaps the solution is the same.
my pioneer head unit is a DEH-P75BT. It looks for a smartphone, but doesn't recognize the hermes as it's classed as a pda phone.
Solution:
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS\COD
By default my T-Mobile Vario II has the value: 1048852 (decimal) for WM5 & 5374228 (decimal) for WM6. Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Your device should dentify itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems. Note that for my Vario II, I also have to discovery mode always on, so I also protect it with a PIN code.
On the head unit, scan for the devices, save it in one of the P1, P2 positions etc. Then when you switch on your ignition, the head unit should recognize it.
One final tip. My head unit doesn't see the Vario II unless the screen is on (device not in standby). If the screen is off (device in standby), and even though bluetooth is on and in discovery mode, the head unit won't see it. Once connected I put the device in standby and it stays connected just fine.
I found this information a while back on this forum, so credit to the original poster - sorry don't know who it was.
Hope thats helps.
Mike
Has anyone had any problems pairing their X1 with any Nissan or Inifniti cars? There seem to be some mumblings on the web about their cars and WM6 devices and I've had no luck getting it to work on my '08 G35. Thanks.
bluetooth pairing
i just checked the aproved phone list for your g35 and the x1 is not aproved by infiniti. only certain phones will link to our cars others will not
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
it also depend if you both have navagation or not
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I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
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I don't have the navigation so I just click the phone button, tell it I want to pair a new device, and have my X1 start searching. At least now I know it can be done. Thanks for the reply
Well... I do have the navigation. So maybe the pairing process is a little different. But it should work though, it even allows me to download the whole phonebook into the car. Something my other phones in the past did not allow me.
baashha said:
Managed to solve this now.
Of course both Merc & SE didn't have any good solutions.... so had to continue googling & XDA-ing... This is what I did:
i.) Jetware, as I posted earlier has been removed.
ii.) I still had the SAP Profile addition downloaded from one of the forums in XDA on.
iii.) Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD
the default is 5898764 (Decimal) which is "Telephone (Smartphone)" which you would think would work. Changed to 5374476 (Decimal) which is a normal phone.
iv.) Restarted the phone.
v.) Started the pairing process from the car - failed as per before.
vi.) Started the pairing from the phone, and they work!!
Now, they pair automatically as how they would before....
Ram
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this is how i got mine working with my pioneer deck.
here's the link to the SAP Profile he was talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=997872&postcount=166
hope this works for you.
which PIoneer do you have?
I have the DEH-P5900IB and a BT adapter, and i can't get my X1 connect.
All my previous phones worked fine.
it looks like the X1 won't let me pair without passcode, and the radio says Error.
Do you mind explaining exactly how you did it?
Thanks
i have the DEH-790BT.
what i did was after i changed what i mentioned above, then i set my deck to be able to be noticed by other bluetooth devices, then added it through my X1. After I added it through my phone it said successfully connected on my deck and the phone displayed it connected as wireless stereo and hands free. now the only weird thing was it was trying to connect as both the wireless stereo and hands free which seemed to mess with the deck, so I had to turn off my ignition and turn my car back on for it to actually recognize the connection fully. oh and the passcode if you connect through the deck to phone like I did it should be default '0000' but i would check your manual just to be safe, and if your connecting through your phone to the deck (which i haven't tested so I don't know if it works) you can pick your own passcode, which i suggest just making 0000 or nothing.
I have a problem also with my HTC Touch HD (Blackstone)
I can pair with my Nissan Qashqai carkit but soun dis very bad, and the caller on the otherside doesn;t hear anything.
Strangly, but try, when during a call i switch from carkit to phone and back (using the options in my carkit/buttons on stearing wheel) everything is fine!
Checking the internet learned me that this is related to the bluetooth stack (or settings) in WM6.1 (and 6.5 also)
So does anybody have any idea how to solve this, maybe by registry changes or maybe by even "downgrading" the Bluetoorh stack to 6.0 or maybe even 5.x.
Maybe it is also possible to replace the complete MS stack for an other stack?