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KikkerDialer- a new dialer available for Magician (Freeware)

Hi all,
We just released a new dialer (freeware) which you can download from Handango. You can download from
http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?productId=152403
Features included in KikkerDialer are:
- The most advanced number dialing system which allows for entry by number panel or keyboard, editing, insertion, copy / paste, etc
- Intuitive and simple UI providing the main functions of a phone such as contacts, dial, access to special characters (e.g. the + sign for international dialing)
- A user interface for selecting contacts which mimicks the most intuitive methods for selecting contacts such as those used within standard mobile phones such as Nokia, Sony Ericsson, etc
- Synchronisation with contacts database (mobile, work, home)
- Extremely fast and responsive to use
- Access to the Windows Mobile clipboard for copy / paste
Feedback welcomed. Enjoy.
Kikker Interactive

I'm sorry, but I really don't see what is so special about this software. Maybe I have got it wrong, but I would say that D9 is better than this, and PhonePlus is much better. I don't want to scroll to the letter J every time I want to call my friend John, and so on.
Copy and paste is nice, but where is the T9 contact selection as in D) and PhonePlus, I think that is a great feature.
The fact that this diealer resembles old standard GSM phones is of no interest.
Sorry for only giving bad feedback, but then again, I might haven't found the cool features.

nteresting… just tried this
First comment - good to see another free dialer out there given what shipped with the jam.
ave only tried this for abt 15 minutes but like it very much so far. Is a lot faster than D9 (my only complaint with that software – I have ~ 1,000 contacts in my jam and the UI is v unresponsive). The thing I like with this new dialer too is the editable text field which seems to be missing on most other apps out there. The ability to edit a number before a call (e.g. insert +44 if not already in international prefix), insert a digit when you have entered incorrectly, etc is just what I was after. Would be nice to see call history in there too btw.

Intuitive and simple UI providing the main functions of a phone such as contacts, dial, access to special characters (e.g. the + sign for international dialing) --->Cool... :wink:

Crashed on my WWE Qtek S100 .. when I try to call ..
Carlis

Hi Carlis,
In the first few hours of release, the first installer required you to have OpenNETCF on your device. It seems not so many people have this so we fixed this issue and now you no longer need this on your device.
You should uninstall the KikkerDialer and run the the new installer file (now setup.exe - ~2MB), downloadable from the same location at Handango. Please give this a go and let us know if any probs - [email protected]
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive

I'm surprised all of you think different than me, but I will give it another try, I guess. I still don't think it can compare with PhonePlus with all the features it has, but then again it's freware.
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Cant downlod the Setup.exe, it still downloads the setup.msi, is this the right version? I'm getting the same crash. Can someone post it here?

ZeroXtreme said:
Cant downlod the Setup.exe, it still downloads the setup.msi, is this the right version? I'm getting the same crash. Can someone post it here?
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for me the download link does not work at all. Page cannot be displayed.

Well, I downloaded the MSI-file from handandgo. Now in can run on my T-Mobile MDA Compact but when I try to dial, it crashes:
KikkerDialer.exe
TypeLoadException
Failed to load type OpenNETCF.Notification.Led from OpenNETCF.Notification, Version=1.2.3346.0, Culture-neutral, PublicKey Token= 30C767B29D52D6E6
Can it be fixed? I wanted to test this application concerning tone dial (DTMF sending).

Anonymous said:
Hi Carlis,
In the first few hours of release, the first installer required you to have OpenNETCF on your device. It seems not so many people have this so we fixed this issue and now you no longer need this on your device.
You should uninstall the KikkerDialer and run the the new installer file (now setup.exe - ~2MB), downloadable from the same location at Handango. Please give this a go and let us know if any probs - [email protected]
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive
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Hi
Thank´s for the answer...
but .. hm .. its not an exe on the same location .. its still the MSI ..
Carlis

ZeroXtreme, 718 & Carlis - Our apologies - we actually meant to the setup.MSI - the file you see up there is the right one (it is not an .exe).
However, seems some of you are still getting a runtime issue on your devices. We suspect this is due to a missing DLL - but cannot replicate your issue right this moment. We've just received some more devices now tho and are retesting. Will post a response here shortly. Feel free to email us directly in the meantime.
Iggy - the handango site must have been having problems. You should try again.
Kikker Interactive

Beta testing - never easy. I'm having enough trouble and bugs beta testing Mobi Dial 2.5 right now, so I'll think I'll pass on this one. Someone let me know when there actually is a legit, ergonomically competent and STABLE replacement dialer out there.

OK thank you all for your patience.
Our new devices arrived and we were able to replicate the issue that some of you were having. This has now been solved with a new version of the setup.msi (now named setup_20050202.msi as Handango doesn't seem to allow overwriting).
You can either download the new app from Handango (http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?productId=152403) or we've also hosted it at http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/setup_20050202.msi for your convenience.
If you don't want to go through the process of download + installing the 2MB file again, there is an easier way for those of you who already have the previous version installed. Please follow the steps here:
1. Quit the KikkerDialer
2. Download two dll's http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/OpenNETCF.Notification.dll and http://69.20.6.190/KikkerDialer/OpenNETCF.Phone.dll
3. Copy both files to \Program Files\KikkerDialer on your device (or wherever you installed the dialer)
4. Restart the app
Any problems - please let us know. Again, apologies for the false start for some of you. From those who were not affected however, we had some v positive feedback and to repay all your efforts, will add some more features within the next few weeks
Kikker Interactive

Yes, with the dlls you provided the program starts okay. However, I failed to dial DTMF tones. Sometimes it is necessary to dial extention or enter a PIN-code. Such a pitty!

Exelent .. thx.. it now works on a Swedish WWE Qtek s100 without need of the extra dll´s ..
Only thing that is missing .. DTMF codes .. to use bank transactions and so..
When they ask for my account nr .. and I press the keys.. nothing happends..
And finaly .. how to replace the old dailer hardware keys.. Green and Red phone keys to be using Ur dailer.. it still actiavte the old one..
Best Regards Carlis

Hi - ok glad we got all the installer issues cleared up.
Yep - DTMF tones are not supported currently. As users of the software, here is what we do:
- Make the call using KikkerDialer
- When prompted to enter PIN (etc), press the green call button and the standard windows dialer will appear
- Type in your code using this interface
This works fine against all systems. Obviously not as intuitive. We are however, working on building in DTMF into our next release and have made some progress so far but won't ship till its ready. At the same time, we'll try to address the issue of how to bind KikkerDialer to the green call button.
Keep giving us your feedback in the meantime, v useful.
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive

Would you manage dialing DTMF tones, you'll be great! But please note that the standard Windows dialer do not work correctly with the DTMF tones. There is something wrong with the duration of the tone, as I suppose. So with that dialer I often reach wrong extention or dial wrong number.

First of all thank you for the freeware.
in spite that, I dont think I would throw phoneplus away yet which serves my every needs.
But it is nice to see some developers trying to give some fight to proffesionals.

Thanks for all your comments. We're still working on getting a v1.0 out there shortly and the latest is good news. From the latest development version of the KikkerDialer, we now have full control of all the JAM buttons such as the direction pad middle button (to select contacts), the green dial button (to open the dialer and make calls), etc. This feature alone allows for complete one handed usage of the dialer (i.e. no stylus).
Now focus remains on adding:
- Call history
- Easier searching on contacts
- DTMF
This last, frequently requested, item is proving to be quite a challenge. We shall persist!
Best rgds,
Kikker Interactive

Voce Comand Dialer by Cyberon

Does anybody know how to extract the excelent Cyberon Voice dialer that comes in JARJAr ROM ?I´ve emailed cyberon.com.tw and they told me that is exclusively distibuted in JASJAR ROM.
It works fabulous, and i will give a try to put it im my QTEK S100.
Thanks
Fernando

Just got my K-jam. All the guys are wiping the cyberon Voice off to replace it with the voice command. So I dont know how to give you cyberon, but what I can tell you is that Voice command is much better, thus everyone with cyberon is installing voice command.

Yes, but Microsoft Voice Comand 1.5 don´t work well with Portuguese Language. Cyberon voice Commander works very, very well also in the car or in noise ambience. I´ve already tested the 2 Softwares and Cyberon´s and despite we can make voice tags for contacts and programs, after that it works fabulous...
Thanks anyway.

I tried every voice dial program and here is what I feel about them:
Fonix 2: quite accurate. But very few functions and very slow.
Fonix 3: add a lot more functions. But even slower and hard to make it work correctly.
MS Voice Command: Fast respone and accurate even with noise. Lots of function and work very well w/ the PPC (since MS knows all the detail of the OS). But it doesn't work for me since my contact list is quite big. It doesn't allow me to filter the canadiate for voice dial making it hard to return me w/ the right contact. In addition, I wish it could provide optional voice tag function.
Cyberon VC 1.2 (anyone got the lastest English version?) : Very accurate but doesn't work very well w/ noise. But it still my choice for voice dial since it allows me to filter contacts and application for voice command.

jackleung said:
I tried every voice dial program and here is what I feel about them:
Fonix 2: quite accurate. But very few functions and very slow.
Fonix 3: add a lot more functions. But even slower and hard to make it work correctly.
MS Voice Command: Fast respone and accurate even with noise. Lots of function and work very well w/ the PPC (since MS knows all the detail of the OS). But it doesn't work for me since my contact list is quite big. It doesn't allow me to filter the canadiate for voice dial making it hard to return me w/ the right contact. In addition, I wish it could provide optional voice tag function.
Cyberon VC 1.2 (anyone got the lastest English version?) : Very accurate but doesn't work very well w/ noise. But it still my choice for voice dial since it allows me to filter contacts and application for voice command.
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Read this and install Cyberon Voice Dialer. No doubt de best ever....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=172877#172877

gazela00 said:
Read this and install Cyberon Voice Dialer. No doubt de best ever....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=172877#172877
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For me, this is trim down version of Cyberon VC (VC without self recongnition). Unless I really tight at RAM space, I prefer VC since I don't have to build voice tag for every contact.

re
I've used MSVC and now I'm using the Cyberon Voice Dialer (from JJ)
Its true that MSVC occupies more RAM but it doesn't requires voice tag and its very accurate too.
CVD is also accurate, small footprint and requires voice tags which will takes up a lot of RAM space if you've a lot of them.
IMO, voice tags should be created for those frequent contacts/programs etc so thst you'll keep the menory footprint small. If you have say 2000 contacts would you want each and everyone to be voice tagged and do you think you can remember all of them?
So, Cyberon Voice Dialer is still the better one if you manage your voice tags properly.

re
Sorry, it read read '...frequently used contacts/programs....'

Where do i download Cyberon Voice Dialer ?? Please help me, i need a program where i can make vocietags.

RanZor said:
Where do i download Cyberon Voice Dialer ?? Please help me, i need a program where i can make vocietags.
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Please read the link above.

SMS Notifier released – a great application for PPCPE users!

Finnish Aali Alikoski, Academic Developer Evangelist of Microsoft Finland, has just released a highly useful application, SMS Notifier, along with its source code.
The application offers some really nice and, up to now, to my knowledge, on the Pocket PC Phone Edition platform, unprecedenced functionality: it waits for unanswered incoming calls and, depending on the configuration settings, it either sends an SMS message to the caller (with configurable contents), possibly containing also the end time of current appointment (this is also configurable) or adds an item to the system-level Windows Mobile calendar (containing the caller info).
The latter functionality is nothing new – you can check the caller's identity and the call date/time in any low-end mobile phone. The former – that is, the SMS feedback –, however, is really long-awaited!
Downloading and Installation
You can download the application here. Transfer the CAB file to your PDA and execute it there.
If, after installing and upon starting SMS Notifier, you're presented this error message, make sure you download and install .NET CF 2.0 from Microsoft. Make sure you install it in the main memory. Also note that, as the application heavily relies on the new, connectivity/database-related libraries of .NET CF2, it's not very easy to port it to run under the earlier Compact Framework library. (For CAB lovers, you will only need c:\Program Files\ Microsoft.NET\SDK\CompactFramework\ v2.0\WindowsCE\wce500\armv4i\NETCFv2.wm.armv4i.cab ; you can also download it from here (to avoid having to download the 24 Mbyte-long MSI installer).
Configuration
On the main set-up screen, there're some checkboxes in AND relationship. The first one, Send SMS to unanswered callers, instructs the application to send an SMS to everybody that tries to call you but his or her calls remain unanswered. Using (not disabling) the second two checkboxes, however, you may make the application not send a SMS to anyone that calls you, just to the ones that call you during an active/busy appointment.
The checkbox/text input area at the bottom makes it possible to report the end of the current appointment so that he or she can know when you are reachable again.
The Calendar tab contains only one checbox, which instructs the application to enter all the incoming calls into Calendar.
Note that the configuration settings are not correctly saved/restored, as the author also points out.
Usage
To use the application, just start and configure it to your liking. Do not click the Quit button – then, it won't send your callers any SMS. Just let it run. You can, of course, suspend the PDA while you do so and also minimize the application. This also means you can safely start it from \Windows\Startup (just like the other highly recommended application, PMRecorder – please see this article on it if interested) – if it's running in the background, it'll safely catch all unanswered calls.
Other stuff
I also recommend the author's blog here. Don't be taken aback of some of the material's being in Finnish: there's nothing really interesting in them for non-Finns (the Finnish blog posts are only about local, Finnish meetings, conferences). Unfortunately, some of the other Finnish .NET bloggers (see the links in the lower left of the page) post exclusively in Finnish, even highly technical stuff that would be interesting for non-Finnish speakers too. (Feel free to ask me in my blog for a public translation for some of them if really interested.)

thanx man .. jus tried it . this application actually works .rockinnn

I can't seem to be able to install the .net Framework 2.o on my new T-Mobile MDA - USA (Wizard)
I get the same error from .cab install or activesynch install:
"Installation error. Stop all applications and processes, maximize all available storage space, and run installation again. Support info:4"
Any suggestions?

oops

PhoneGuy said:
I can't seem to be able to install the .net Framework 2.o on my new T-Mobile MDA - USA (Wizard)
I get the same error from .cab install or activesynch install:
"Installation error. Stop all applications and processes, maximize all available storage space, and run installation again. Support info:4"
Any suggestions?
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Did you try to install it in the main storage or the storage card? Only install it in the main storage.

Yeah, the options were "Device" or "Storage Card".
I tried Devicce but no luck...

PhoneGuy said:
Yeah, the options were "Device" or "Storage Card".
I tried Devicce but no luck...
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I've encountered the same when I first tried to install it on a storage card. Then, subsequent installs to the main memory didn't succeed either. A hard reset helped.

I have installed it and it seems to work well. My only concern is that it seems to use the notification application of the phone rather than the call list of the phone. The reason I say this is because it puts a calendar entry in when I miss a call then adds another entry when I check the notification of missed calls.
is this what is supposed to happen? would it send 2 text messages in this case (when the call comes in and when I check the notification that the call did come in)?
thanks,
Edwin

also, it seems if I am on the phone when I miss a call it uses the name of the person I was on the phone with and not the person I missed.

Ruttensoft also has a similar program call minder - works well but not as many features as above program but you don't need NET thing - hate those addons

ethorn said:
is this what is supposed to happen? would it send 2 text messages in this case (when the call comes in and when I check the notification that the call did come in)?
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That's what happens for me... I stopped using it because of the duplicated sms's...

meschle said:
Ruttensoft also has a similar program call minder - works well but not as many features as above program but you don't need NET thing - hate those addons
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Tried it. Keep getting "Cound not find resource assembly" error.

Strange works sweet for me.
this is the link I used
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/callassistant.shtml

meschle said:
Ruttensoft also has a similar program call minder - works well but not as many features as above program but you don't need NET thing - hate those addons
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after using the Ruttensoft on my Qtek, i can no longer creat SMS, when I click on new, only a while screen appear, cannot input both phone number and Text.... did anyone meet the same ???

meschle said:
Strange works sweet for me.
this is the link I used
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/callassistant.shtml
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No it didn't... you didn't use this program. we are trying to give feedback to the author of this program which has so much more potential than the limited software you used.

No sms works for me even when activated. my qtek rom is 1.6.7.1 maybe that's the diff. Sorry ethorn could start a new thread if you like but may help some people if the other prog don't work for them.

Hi
I have a XDA 2i & a XDA Mini S and use a program called Do Not Disturb by Jguisoft, a very small footprint and easily configurable

no I am all for putting ideas of other products, but the way you worded it sounded like this program that Menneisyys worked on worked on your phone and that the version of his program you used was at another link.... my problem is that neither are true. Software Guru did things right and just introduced another alternative.
thanks guys

Software Guru said:
Hi
I have a XDA 2i & a XDA Mini S and use a program called Do Not Disturb by Jguisoft, a very small footprint and easily configurable
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Can you provide a link? Did a google and no results found.

Cannot download the SMSNotifierSetup cab
Can someone please post this as i cannot seem to download it.
thanks

Speech Controlled Application Development on PPC

Hello All,
I hope I can ask you this question in this section.
I am not a hardcore developer but I have made some custom applications for PPC. NOW, I have a project that I need to develop an application that can be controlled with voice.
The project is designed for visually impaired users and I am trying to do indoor guidance for them. I have all parts of my project worked out, but I need to have a development tool that I can embed in my PPC application to do speech recognition of ** my own custom command ** and maybe do speech synthesis.
I have worked with Speech SDK 5.1 from Microsoft on XP and Vista, but as I understand there is no SDK for Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.
Do you guys have any suggestions or know of any SR engine that I can embed and program into my application?
PS - I am using AT&T Tilt as my test platform at this time and the goal is to have the application made for all Windows 5.0/6.0/6.1.
Regards,
HoSsEiN

hgn842001 said:
Hello All,
I hope I can ask you this question in this section.
I am not a hardcore developer but I have made some custom applications for PPC. NOW, I have a project that I need to develop an application that can be controlled with voice.
The project is designed for visually impaired users and I am trying to do indoor guidance for them. I have all parts of my project worked out, but I need to have a development tool that I can embed in my PPC application to do speech recognition of ** my own custom command ** and maybe do speech synthesis.
I have worked with Speech SDK 5.1 from Microsoft on XP and Vista, but as I understand there is no SDK for Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.
Do you guys have any suggestions or know of any SR engine that I can embed and program into my application?
PS - I am using AT&T Tilt as my test platform at this time and the goal is to have the application made for all Windows 5.0/6.0/6.1.
Regards,
HoSsEiN
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I may be a little out of touch with what your asking for but Microsoft Voice Command has both audio input and reply. You may want to check it out.

You are right ...
Curious,
Thats right. I do use Voice Command on my PDA, but I don't think that I can have it to respond to ** Custom ** commands!
I actually contacted Microsoft and asked them about this and they said there is no way to customize the Voice command and it is a closed source code and I cant hack into it.
In my application I want to have the user say: "I need to go to room 200" (or just "room 200") and my program should be able to understand it and using my indoor positioning system rout the blind person to that room.
So I am hoping to find an engine ... SDK ... or toolkit that I can embed in my application.
Do you know if you can hack into the Microsoft Voice Command to do this?
Thanks for your reply ...
HoSsEiN

If you can find a software package to handle the voice recognition, you may still have problems with background noise interfering. My previous phone had a voice-activated dialing application that didn't need to be trained for most names. However, I found that, if I was on a road with a lot of traffic, I generally had to wait for a pause in the traffic before the phone could recognize what I was saying. In the case of this indoor-guidance application, the main issue would probably be other voices in the background, such as in a busy hallway.

Ambient noise is an issue, you are right.
I may be able to use a hands free headset that does a bit of noise cancellation to alleviate this problem, but first I need to find the engine to get it working.

Just as "pie-in-the-sky" armchair development, but maybe you could do it client-server. I think this is how Microsoft Live Search works-- I'm guessing it records a sound, then sends that to the a speech recognition server. The server then sends back the best guess at what was said.
No idea what the back-end server is though. Maybe Microsoft Speech Server

Dromio said:
Just as "pie-in-the-sky" armchair development, but maybe you could do it client-server. I think this is how Microsoft Live Search works-- I'm guessing it records a sound, then sends that to the a speech recognition server. The server then sends back the best guess at what was said.
No idea what the back-end server is though. Maybe Microsoft Speech Server
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Dromio,
Thanks for your comment.
I did a bit of a search for this one before. It sounds promising but I am not sure how easy it is to implement. I had an impression that the Speech Server was mainly build for telephony connection, but as you pointed out Microsoft Live search does that in multimodal way with data only. It is of course subject to be always connected to a network and with a slow connection would probably not work as it should.
Also, I've not been able to find a good working example of server-client SR so far. Maybe if someone has done it and are willing to share it with us, it would shed more light on this approach.
Regards,
HoSsEiN

Voice Dialling in 6.5 - not found

I cannot find it for the life of me and searching brings no results either. I use voice dialling in conjunction with a blue tooth hands free in the car so it's pretty important to me.
Assuming that it is simply missing from the cooked ROM does anyone have the relevant .cab?
TIA

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Search software/apps & themes forum for MSVC, i.e. MicroSoft Voice Command

Close, but no cigar, I'm not interested in running programmes by voice, I just want to say a name to the Bluetooth in the car and it dials like it used to. However, MSVC eventually is mentioned in the same sentence as CVSD which is the missing element.
It's pain to find Cybertron Voice Speed Dial, which as far as I was concerned, was part of Mobile Windows in the first place!
You can download the relevant cab file here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3191184&postcount=3
BTW. Where the hell are all the buttons gone for posting..?