Is there such an application which functions like the WorldCard Mobile ability to capture data on name card by camera to convert to readable text document? eg: take a shot on a page of article and converts it to MS Word.
freddex said:
Is there such an application which functions like the WorldCard Mobile ability to capture data on name card by camera to convert to readable text document? eg: take a shot on a page of article and converts it to MS Word.
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Optical Character Recognition ?
OCR
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Yes... that's the term. Thanks!
I'm doing some searching on the web now... looking at these links.
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There's no mobile OCR I can find suitable. Neither does Jetware Mobile Extension replacement app.
Is there any development tread for both?
that would be a really useful program i think
there are a few server-side web services where you email the pic to a server and it sends you back the OCRed version... not very cool though... I want everything to be self-contained.
It might seems like conventional OCRs take up a great amount of storage space and so it's not practicable to mobilised it... Just my thought.
You can use the ocr sdk for mobile devices from ABBYY.it is not free though.
http://www.abbyy.com/sdk/?param=56223
using this sdk, you can convert any image to text, either by using the camera or by browsing to an image file and processing it using the ocr.
I used to have an app like the one you need, but its for symbian phones . On the positive side, if my nokias N73 and E65 handle the job, i dont see why my htc touch would not handle it
freddex said:
Is there such an application which functions like the WorldCard Mobile ability to capture data on name card by camera to convert to readable text document? eg: take a shot on a page of article and converts it to MS Word.
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did alot of searching on this exact thing when i found world card...... i didn't even find anything for windows mobile phones (self-contained app wise) disappointing.
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It might seems like conventional OCRs take up a great amount of storage space and so it's not practicable to mobilised it... Just my thought.
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With sdhc card compatibility i can't imagine not having the space for a program like this, really on that note i'm pretty sure the ram capabilities are fine compared to alot of the symbian phones out there capable of it
Its not a manner of can't be done its a matter of it hasn't been done yet.
we have one on our Omnias!
There is an OCR program called Smart Reader from Diotek which not only reads business cards but also reads general text from a page via camera. Really cool app I think someone extracted it over on modaco.com in the i900 forum - but I don't know whether it would work other models.
Here is a link to the Smartreader that was on MoDaCo
This links to a Polish (I think) hosting site.
http://www.sendspace.pl/file/pVNBREN9/
to bad it doesn't work for me on my TP
I think there is a problem with the dll's you have to copy to the windows directory.
I hope we can get this to work! it would be great for me to use on school.
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Would it be possible to use one of the cameras to scan buisnesscards ?
And save the info. to the contacts ?
Just a thought...
Superb Idea.
Would need an accurate scanning software and image to text conversion - but I think it's a very good idea.
Dont believe this is possible. Business cards dont have any set layout. How would you be able to tell the persons name apart from their company name, etc?
I did a google, and it has already been done:
Motorola Ming phone.
The two megapixel camera found on MING allowed engineers to incorporate a business card scanner and optical-character recognition software.
The two megapixel camera found on MING allowed engineers to incorporate a business card scanner and optical-character recognition software.
MING incorporates the industry's leading Chinese handwriting recognition software, now upgraded to recognize Pinyin input.
yeah, it can't easily be done automatically - but you can certainly grab the text with some OCR and then manually tell it where to stuff the data. Obviously some distinction can be made... e.g.
[plain strings]
name
company name
job title
['word' with an @ and a . in it in that order]
e-mail
[starting with 'http' or 'www']
website
[bunch of numbers]
phone
fax
btw... for someting not entirely similar but sorta neat, and involving the camera as well, see ShotCodes; http://www.shotcode.com/
Basically they're 'bar codes' that point to some file that you would automatically download after the camera takes a picture of one of those shotcode bits
The SE P990 has a built in business card scanner "out of the box", so it's certainly possible. Not sure exactly how they've implemented it though. I guess I'll have to wait 'til I have one to find out...
read this...
its alread in the Hermes..
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://www.ppcreviews.net/content/view/737/7/
Not really a universal solution but I read somewhere that the next version of OneNote for Microsoft Office 2007 is supposed to have this kind of functionality included with it.
Although there is a mobile version of this being prepared too but I don't know how much of these features it will have.
You might want to check this out:
http://www.scanr.com/bc.aspx
I would love a piece of software like this on my universal. I believe abbyy have an SDK for OCR for just about any ppc platform. Wouldn't have a clue on developing my own one. It can be found here http://www.abbyy.com/sdk/?param=56223
Google have a free OCR engine if anyone's writing an app.
V
Im not sure how good OCR software are now. At times when I was checking it out, they were terrible, consider that I tried the 'world leader' in OCR software (I think it is called Omnipage). And, (the one I've tested) OCR don't just do visual recognition, but it also check the grammer, so it is language dependant. So, it will start giving you rubbish if you have technical terms and equations on it. I'm not sure how good a OCR software can be using the terrible camera (eg my Wizard) on the phone.
However, having said that, those little bar code thinky are pretty impressive. I think I've tested the Japan version of the barcode like scanning thing, QRCode, which is widely popular now in Japan (as I've read). However, the sad thing is that, this 'thing' is not universal. I think US they have their very own code and.. Europe has their very own code. So, business card wise, probably you want to consider putting such codes onto your business card.
rattler said:
read this...
its alread in the Hermes..
http://translate.google.com/transla...http://www.ppcreviews.net/content/view/737/7/
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Is this application integratetd in ROM, or installed via ExtROM? If it is in ExtROM I guess we could rip it out an install it on any WM5 device with camera.
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PK
Ever since I recieved the MDA I've been very eager to use it to read ebooks. I've never had a machine capable of doing so, so I am very uneducated about the entire field.
I have acquired several .lit and .pdf ebooks. I know there is a program instantly installed on the MDA to read pdfs, and it is my understanding that I am supposed to use Microsoft Reader for .lit files.
However . . . neither of these programs seem fit to read anything on this phone. The pdf reader makes me scroll left and right, and fitting anything to the page makes the entire thing unreadable. And Microsoft Reader seems very poorly made, suffering the same problems and unchangably large text.
Does anyone know a solution to my problem? Another program to read the files, or settings I am simply missing?
Thanks in advance.
I am using Mobipocket reader on my blue angel for more than 6 months - it's the perfect tool for me www.mobipocket.com. And its free
Before I was using Microsoft reader, but Mobipocket comes with a desktop and PDA software and the desktop software can convert very good a lot of files, which you can read easilly on the PDA
Hi,
The most popular one is Microsoft Reader which is freely available and there are literally TONS of free e-books on their site for you to download.
http://www.mslit.com/default.asp?mjr=FRE
Repligo is nice, and can kinda convert pdf.
I use Isilo generally.
Use pdf2txt to convert pdf if necessary.
V
I've never used those format's, but I've been using uBook from Gowerpoint and I love it. I use it in conjunction with all the stuff I get from Gutenberg (the BEST place to get free ebooks) and haven't had a problem since. You can use it free if you don't mind a minor annoyance every three pages of the reminder or you can pay a little bit to register.
Mack, I have used Microsoft Reader, and it just seems far too weak. I didn't like it. No margin control, font size, etc. . . . unless I'm wrong. Feel free to correct me, itd make this a lot easier!
I tried MobiPocket and so far it seems like the best. I can control those functions I just mentioned, and seems to convert pdfs well. However, it stills seems to have few problems (It seems to kill itself randomly and - as far as I can tell - doesn't save my font settings.
I found a program called Convert Lit to, well, convert .lit files. I haven't tried it yet but I've heard good things.
I haven't tried the other suggested readers, but, judging from their websites they don't seem as good as MobiPocket. Ill eventually get to them.
Off topic....
does anybody use RSS to get news on your phone and which sites you use.....?
Mobipocket reader is good.
Regards,
Arto.
RussianInLa: I like newsreader, it does the job quite well.
For RSS channels, I grab a bunch of usual suspects - check out my old website newsreader,
www.vijay555.com/news
However, I'm improving that with many (illegal) news scrapers, grabbing full articles from many different sites (eg Wired). Their normal RSS feed just gives headlines.
That's a good option if you can host php - write your own scraper and grab ANY webpage as RSS
V
Ubook
Have to agree with Jose_v, ubook is the best all round reader. It doesn't read pdf files, which for me is fine but can read ebooks in text, htm or html and rtf formats, all of which can be zipped to save space. It will also read palm and mobipocet format files that are not drm'd. Zip compression is better than mobipocket's, so you save that little bit extra space on your precious mini-sd.
It has recently become shareware and comes up with its logo every few pages, which is easy to get rid of as you just press down. Seeing as I have been using it for about 3 or 4 years now, I purchased it without hesitation when it became shareware.
Use it, you will learn to appreciate it.
To change the font on MS Reader, go to the Library page, click Settings, and change your font size. You can't do anything about the margins, though someone told me you could change them by opening a document in MS Word, expanding the margins, then converting to Reader. Haven't tried it yet.
Speaking of Word, download the free Word-to-Reader converter. Anything you can read in Word, including TXT and HTML files, can be converted to yo9ur own LIT files. You can even customize the cover picture. http://www.microsoft.com/reader/developers/downloads/rmr.asp
uBook is great, and I use it for all my old Palm ebooks, but I have so many LIT files, it's just easier to read them in Reader. Besides, none of the other programs have a PC version. I can read the same file on my desktop or laptop if I want, and if I sync the files, my PPC remembers where I was when I was reading it on the other device.
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Have to agree with Jose_v, ubook is the best all round reader. It doesn't read pdf files, which for me is fine but can read ebooks in text, htm or html and rtf formats, all of which can be zipped to save space. It will also read palm and mobipocet format files that are not drm'd. Zip compression is better than mobipocket's, so you save that little bit extra space on your precious mini-sd.
It has recently become shareware and comes up with its logo every few pages, which is easy to get rid of as you just press down. Seeing as I have been using it for about 3 or 4 years now, I purchased it without hesitation when it became shareware.
Use it, you will learn to appreciate it.
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I'm going to third uBook, I used it on my old HPC and through a number of Pocket PCs and it is a wonderful app. Why I haven't actually registered it yet is beyond me, I can't imagine a better reader.
I'm frustrated by the way pdf's are forced to completely redraw (or maybe reload) themselves when you scroll around within a page. It makes them a time consuming hassle. Is there any way to make it scroll smoothly? I'm using the clearvue pdf viewer that was loaded with the Cingular 812555.
u have mobipocket and others, but most of them arnt free...
http://www.mobipocket.com/en/eNews/default.asp
and im not sure if it solves ur problem, i just suggest alternatives to try...
Thanks trashman for the suggestion. I'm not worried about paying for the program if it does the trick (though of course I would rather find it for free). Does anybody out there know if mobipocket will help smooth out scrolling when viewing PDF's?
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Thanks trashman for the suggestion. I'm not worried about paying for the program if it does the trick (though of course I would rather find it for free). Does anybody out there know if mobipocket will help smooth out scrolling when viewing PDF's?
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It won't display PDF's, you'll need to convert them, which may result in problems unless your PDF source is fully text-based.
That is, don't even try to convert a, say, graphics-heavy tech book to the Mobi format.
dunno with heavy graphics but with normal graphics, pictures and so on i have no problem with it...and it scroll fast on text and relatively smooth on graphics...
but mene is correct, u cant read a pdf right away, it need to be "converted"...
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dunno with heavy graphics but with normal graphics, pictures and so on i have no problem with it...and it scroll fast on text and relatively smooth on graphics...
but mene is correct, u cant read a pdf right away, it need to be "converted"...
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Yup, with a normal, say, literature book the Mobi format is much better than PDF.
I for one am a fairly heavy PDF user and have always gone back to the bloated Adobe Reader 2.0. Just found this Foxit Reader for Windows Mobile which is still beta but was quite impressive. No installation, just a small executable that I copied to my Program Files directory and changed the PDF default viewer in the registry. It has a stupid nag screen and an Evaluation banner at the top of the that I'm sure will disappear when it's actually released. Looks like it has promise.....
I tried 'em all on my 8125, and settled on Foxit Reader. It only cost me $9.99 for a licensed version, and it works as well as any. It is very fast, takes up very little room and redraws seamlessly. The only drawback to it is that it has no find function. But tables of contents and links within documents are both fully functional. It's the best pdf viewer I've used in all my years of using PDAs and Handhelds.
This is the URL to the beta download, but if you contact the company they are very good about communicating with you.
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/foxitreader/rd_ppc.php
You can contact Sales here: [email protected]
I did have some trouble in getting the licensed version to keep my registration key from one session to the next, and had to get about 4 different "new" versions from them before they finally got me the fully licensed executable, but they didn't give up and their replies were timely.
Overall I'm very happy with it. I even open 6+Mb manuals with it and it is very fast in doing so, and just as fast in navigating within those large documents.
G'luck
Okay. The I downloaded the Fox Reader evaluation. Is there anyway to make it the default reader once you get the licensed version?
By the way - it's much quicker to use than the clearvue reader.
RepliGo PDF Mobilizer looks quite nice as well. The viewer for pocketpc is free, but you'll need to convert your PDFs to a custom format with their software, which is shareware (but nothing a quick search with Google can't fix).
The converted files are about half the size of the original PDF without losing layout/features etc.
addicus said:
Okay. The I downloaded the Fox Reader evaluation. Is there anyway to make it the default reader once you get the licensed version?
By the way - it's much quicker to use than the clearvue reader.
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Use a registry editor, navigatate to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT. Look for pdffile. The Shell\Open\Command. Open the key and copy the text to the clipboard. (Mine says "\\Program Files\FoxitReader for WiM5.0.exe" %1" Close that and go down to Opendoc\Command and replace the text in the entry there.
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Use a registry editor, navigatate to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT. Look for pdffile. The Shell\Open\Command. Open the key and copy the text to the clipboard. (Mine says "\\Program Files\FoxitReader for WiM5.0.exe" %1" Close that and go down to Opendoc\Command and replace the text in the entry there.
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I just found this thread again. I dl'd total commander and this worked perfectly. Thanks Dr.!!!!!
I have two Linux apps, Tuxcards & Kontacts, for which I am urgently looking for data compatible WM6 apps.
Any suggestions?
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you can import and export .vcf-style vCards.
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you can import and export .vcf-style vCards.
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I realized that about Kontacts myself by now.
But what about the XML file format of Tuxcards?
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I have two Linux apps, Tuxcards & Kontacts, for which I am urgently looking for data compatible WM6 apps.
Any suggestions?
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Not sure what exactly you trying to do ... but I am a long time Linux desktop user. Synchronising my HD2 with Kontact (the contacts and appointments) over SynCE and OpenSync without problems.
Syncing is of no interest for me, as I never use that unreliable process anyway.
Never sure what gets overwritten where.
I have TONS of tech notes stored in my Tuxcards archive which I need for my work. So I'm desperately looking for an XML viewer for my SmartPhone that can handle/display the TuxCards archive.
I've read a TuxCards look-a-like tool called BasketNotes, but it also only exports in HTML format.
And that makes the entire Collapsible Tree functionality of Tuxcards go away.
Its a real pain in the rear trying to browse through hundreds of static web pages on a smart phone.
Anyone know of a way to easily import Tuxcard XML archives e.g. into Phatnotes?
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Sorry, but I'm still looking desperately for an XML Reader for WM6.
Anyone got any ideas here?
pharao said:
Sorry, but I'm still looking desperately for an XML Reader for WM6.
Anyone got any ideas here?
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http://tinyurl.com/ycd2ye3
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I just tested the 1st one in the results, and it works fine. It's ugly, but it works. Spend some time with the rest of the results if you're not happy with the 1st one.
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http://tinyurl.com/ycd2ye3
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I just tested the 1st one in the results, and it works fine. It's ugly, but it works. Spend some time with the rest of the results if you're not happy with the 1st one.
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Hhhmm, I had googled my eyes out for an XML WM6 reader and couldn't find *anything* other than Porn Sites & Crack Torrents....
I'll try the Haali Reader for starters.
Thankz a lot...
I tried all of those your Google list came up with and none works.
The best I get is some notepad like prog which reads XML like a flat text file.
Not one of them even cares to interpret the inner structure of the XML data, so no chance of a snowball in hell to get a hierarchical notebook like layout of it :-(
Specially that Haali app was a big disappointment here.
And even apps like phatnotes only support plain text file imports and TuxCards doesn't export to plain text....(only to HTML)
pharao said:
I tried all of those your Google list came up with and none works.
The best I get is some notepad like prog which reads XML like a flat text file.
Not one of them even cares to interpret the inner structure of the XML data, so no chance of a snowball in hell to get a hierarchical notebook like layout of it :-(
Specially that Haali app was a big disappointment here.
And even apps like phatnotes only support plain text file imports and TuxCards doesn't export to plain text....(only to HTML)
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Stupid question for you then - Why not export to HTML and use Opera?
Edit: Sorry, just realised I missed one of your earlier posts...
sub69 said:
Stupid question for you then - Why not export to HTML and use Opera?
Edit: Sorry, just realised I missed one of your earlier posts...
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The question wouldn't be that stupid if not for the ABYSMALLY LOUSY quality of that HTML export
While TuxCards itself offers dynamic tree navigation, the exported HTML file is one big static dump, w/o proper font sizing and minimal (if any) graphic support.
In essence, its a pain in the rear to review, specially on a PocketPC device.
I think they just put it in there to have something listed under "Export" (just like the PhatNotes folks with their lousy Text Only import "feature").
Hello everyone. My trial of OfficeSuite5 has ended. Too bad I never actually used it during the trial period LOL
Well now its time to either pay up or use something else. I've looked at a couple of reviews and they suggest QuickOffice HD Pro as the best app for tablets as its the only one which is designed for tablets.
Well the Note though capable isn't much of a tablet. So perhaps an elephantised phone app is still best for us?
I have no objections paying $15 for an Office App. What are your thoughts on which is best on the Note?
Best Office Suite
Quick Office Pro 5 is the best. That plus EZPDF Reader will allow you to deal with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and PDF files. EZPDF program is excellent and allows you to edit pdf files.
It really depends what you expect from your Office application. If you need to share documents and edit complex ones, I wouldn't call any Android Office suite a mature one. If you only need to edit relatively simple documents, both options you mention might be OK. If I were you, I wouldn't buy either without a good test drive, though.
The biggest problem is compatibility with more complex formatting (and formulas). Quite often opening a document in a mobile office suite and saving it back means changed or lost formatting. So when you open the document on your PC you may be in for a surprise. So far Dataviz's DocsToGo have been best in this respect - their technology (aptly called "Intact") leaves all formating intact - so even if the mobile app doesn't understand more complex formatting (footnotes, tables, anchored text etc.), it doesn't destroy it.
Alternatively, there is a German company, having a very good Windows Mobile Office suite: Softmaker Office (they have a website both in English and German). This suite has always been much more powerful than other mobile solutions. On their website it is mentioned that they are preparing a version for Android, but it is not ready yet (not even a public beta!). So you may keep this suite in mind for future consideration and meanwhile buy just the software that is good enough for basic purposes.
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It really depends what you expect from your Office application. If you need to share documents and edit complex ones, I wouldn't call any Android Office suite a mature one. If you only need to edit relatively simple documents, both options you mention might be OK. If I were you, I wouldn't buy either without a good test drive, though.
The biggest problem is compatibility with more complex formatting (and formulas). Quite often opening a document in a mobile office suite and saving it back means changed or lost formatting. So when you open the document on your PC you may be in for a surprise. So far Dataviz's DocsToGo have been best in this respect - their technology (aptly called "Intact") leaves all formating intact - so even if the mobile app doesn't understand more complex formatting (footnotes, tables, anchored text etc.), it doesn't destroy it.
Alternatively, there is a German company, having a very good Windows Mobile Office suite: Softmaker Office (they have a website both in English and German). This suite has always been much more powerful than other mobile solutions. On their website it is mentioned that they are preparing a version for Android, but it is not ready yet (not even a public beta!). So you may keep this suite in mind for future consideration and meanwhile buy just the software that is good enough for basic purposes.
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Nice reply.
It surely depends on what you expect from your office application. Thus recommendations would vary based on preferences.
Of all the available office apps I found Documents to Go as the best one. It keeps the format INTACT and I found that it's the only app that can open PASSWORD PROTECTED files which was important for me.
Softmaker Office Beta testing for Android
macminer said:
Alternatively, there is a German company, having a very good Windows Mobile Office suite: Softmaker Office (they have a website both in English and German). This suite has always been much more powerful than other mobile solutions. On their website it is mentioned that they are preparing a version for Android, but it is not ready yet (not even a public beta!). So you may keep this suite in mind for future consideration and meanwhile buy just the software that is good enough for basic purposes.
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To get Softmaker Office Beta register to Softmaker forum , then ask for access at this thread
OfficeSuite5 is trial for...?
I got Smart Office and i think it's a great solution because it's a great app, which allows you to create/edit word/excel/powerpoint.. data
Just try
I use polaris office, and it working very well
Polaris is simpler....but way easier to generate documents from.
User friendly A+....best in Android
I recommend DocumentsToGo. It has good editing capabilities and easy access to cloud services.
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can some one suggest an app that allows one to
edit / form new tables in power point
edit / insert images in powerpoint
edit / form bar charts / pie charts in powerpoint / excel files
form / edit ODT docs
read / edit rtf documents
edit pdfs
is it possible to do this on any one app
I have got docs 2 go and ezpdf and open office reader now but will buy any other that is better
for databases which is better handbase or memento. presently have handbase.
My vote goes to Officesuite.. Based totally on the speed of the application.. Its fast.. And got everything i need..
Ultimately some kind of virtualisation or hosted solution would do the trick, if you are on an unlimited fast dataplan. Or you could just run the fullfletched suite from your own computer. Logmein is good, but requires your PC turned on to function as a server. Used to do that back in 2006 and acces it throught Wifi in college on my htc lmao.
If your company has cytrix I think it should also be easy. They must have an Android client to connect.
There is also splashtop, free on getjar. However I dont think it has an office suit build in. It is the only virtualisation client I do know of targetted at consumers.
Did you try Microsoft office 360 or just plain google docs? Maybe they can cater your office needs through a browser
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I use PowerOffice. Its free on the Samsung market. You just have to have a fast data plan, as its a virtualization solution. You can access your files via Email or Dropbox. Please go to the Samsung market for further information, I'm writing this from my Note and am kinda lazy atm
Also try Kingston office which has gone free on the market
Ernesto de Bernardis
[from my Galaxy Note]
RTF Support
Hi all,
Don't mean to hijack a thread especially as it's fairly old now but does anyone know an office app that can at least read RTF files?
I do a bit of work for one company that sends all their work in RTF files.
I'd be happy just to be able to open/Read/Print them
ferdi90 said:
I use polaris office, and it working very well
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Polaris office does not handle formulas with the IF function in Excel correctly. Documents To Go is my recommendation.
I really need am office app that will let you annotate...
Ezpdf works quite well for annotating pdfs, but I want to do that to powerpoint and word documents...
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I don't get it. Polaris Office comes with nearly all Galaxy phones. Why do we need another paid office?
Porlaris Excel has a big problem. It can't read most formulae. It turn them into literal values. However, it seems it only fails when handling XLSX (Office 2007) documents. If I save to XLS (Office 2003) format, then it does everything fine.
I believe I've tried Kingsoft, but it has exactly the same problem as Polaris.
One app to avoid is Smart Office+, at least not the current version. It thinks that Note is a tablet and displays an HD UI. You won't be able to do anything with the tiny toolbar. There is not yet any method to manually choose among the two UI in the suite.
cliver said:
Hi all,
Don't mean to hijack a thread especially as it's fairly old now but does anyone know an office app that can at least read RTF files?
I do a bit of work for one company that sends all their work in RTF files.
I'd be happy just to be able to open/Read/Print them
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I bought adobe convert to pdf app from the market for the same problem.
This app allowed me to upload for conversion to pdf the rtf file and within seconds I got back the pdf version and formatting looked like the original.the website does not save the original by the looks of it. The app worked fine for me on this instance but some of the reviews are not good but most of those reviews seem to be for converting website links.