I already pay 4 an unlimited internet plan through cingular. I downloaded the wmwifirouter to my phone. I was wondering if I used this apllication to share my internet would there be additional charges.
no the operator would not even know all net activity was not don on the phone itself
if you want more info about how network routing works this is ok reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router
Rudegar said:
no the operator would not even know all net activity was not don on the phone itself
if you want more info about how network routing works this is ok reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router
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I would be careful if you are thinking about using it to connect you laptop. Even though you have an unlimited download regular web pages takes up significantly more data. Depending on how much you are downloading they could eventually suspend you account and/or up your rate. Casual use shouldn't be an issue.
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Here's my problem. I'm trying to run uTorrent and everything is slooooow. I've noticed my IP address on my laptop as 192.168.0.102 and my external is very different. I think that is my problem, NAT or something. Is there any way to forward ports on the 8525 or to put myself into a DMZ like my home router?
I've searched and searched and maybe I'm just retarded, I suppose that could be the whole issue at hand. I also made sure that I'm logged into isp.cingular so that shouldn't be the issue at hand.
Hopefully someone can help me, thanks for the time.
Taylor.
1) Why would you want to run a torrent program over a mobile network. It would be really slow, especially compared to cable. Plus you're going to bog down the wireless network and probably end up getting your account suspended or end up with insane data charges for using so much data. I'm pretty sure it is against which ever provider's TOS you have that you can not use their network for that type of activity.
2) You have no control over port forwarding or anything of that nature. Your phone's data connection is behind your provider's "main" access point. They control the ports and how the internal addressing works.
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GldRush98 said:
1) Why would you want to run a torrent program over a mobile network. It would be really slow, especially compared to cable. Plus you're going to bog down the wireless network and probably end up getting your account suspended or end up with insane data charges for using so much data. I'm pretty sure it is against which ever provider's TOS you have that you can not use their network for that type of activity.
It is..it specifically states the use of file sharing or P2P apps is not allowed... they dont even allow you to tether without a laptop connect plan..you think theyre gonna let you get away with running a torrent app for long before your account gets flagged?
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Well just for the sake of information then I'll post what I tried and found out. I downloaded the 9/21/06 rom from the wiki and reflashed it so I could try Wireless Modem again instead of Internet Sharing and guess what...
Internet Sharing gives an internal IP of 192.168.0.102
Wireless Modem gives an internal IP that matches my external IP but still does not allow incoming connections.
So Internet Sharing does give the internal IP NOT my provider.
To respond about the tethering, I'm not getting the laptop connect plan because then I wouldn't be able to browse on my phone, hence negating the whole damn reason that I bought my 8525, so I can browse the internet while sitting in parking lots waiting on calls. My home cable connection costs what I pay a month for internet access on my phone you better believe I'll use it the same way.
Taylor.
PS A moderator is more than welcome to close this now as my original question has been answered by me. Thanks.
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Well just for the sake of information then I'll post what I tried and found out. I downloaded the 9/21/06 rom from the wiki and reflashed it so I could try Wireless Modem again instead of Internet Sharing and guess what...
Internet Sharing gives an internal IP of 192.168.0.102
Wireless Modem gives an internal IP that matches my external IP but still does not allow incoming connections.
So Internet Sharing does give the internal IP NOT my provider.
To respond about the tethering, I'm not getting the laptop connect plan because then I wouldn't be able to browse on my phone, hence negating the whole damn reason that I bought my 8525, so I can browse the internet while sitting in parking lots waiting on calls. My home cable connection costs what I pay a month for internet access on my phone you better believe I'll use it the same way.
Taylor.
PS A moderator is more than welcome to close this now as my original question has been answered by me. Thanks.
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I have the same issue with the 192.168.0.102 and it sets default gateway to 192.168.0.1. This never happend with the other rom and it kills my local network because it's 192.168.0.0:255.255.255.0.
Also on the tether speed being slow! I am getting about 800-900 k, I don't call that slow and my plan is unlimited and is no longer available so I can't change anything or I loose it. I have downloaded many many gig and never flagged or cut off.
I would like to find out how to stay with the newer rom and internet sharing and just change what IP's it uses rather than change my whole network config.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Torrenting on the 8525
I just got my 8525 and I just started to try and torrent on the network. Is your unlimited data plan with AT&T\Cingular? Just curious as I was also concerned about the ramifications.
Hey,
In my country (Holland) my provider says in their policy that I cant use my phone as a modem for my laptop, or they will shut me down. However, I have tried this several times, and its so easy with my touch hd (1 press) that i want to keep using it.
So does anyone know a way how to mask my internet traffic, so my provider wont know its coming from a laptop? Wont really matter in bandwidth usage, because right now im downloading 200+ mb torrents on my HD aswell
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Snuur
try using pdanet that was designed for exactly this reason
http://www.junefabrics.com/pdanet/download.php
ok thanks for your reply but on their website i cant find anything about masking my internet traffic. so far it only does what my phone alreadycdoes right now. or am i wrong?
I think internet connection sharing is much safer in this case.
PDANET is specifically made to mask traffic, thats it's main feature...
hey folks quick question i pay £7.50 a month for ulimited internet and email thru o2 and was wondering if i use wifi router to connect to internet will it use the data connection or will it appear on my bill as tethered internet,there is 2 options on wifi router for me mobile web and o2 active?? i dont want to contact o2 and ask them incase they say its extra and put a note on my account anybody have any info,
much appreciated
greg
"Mobile Web" is the one you're after. I've never had a problem using it myself (so far as the billing goes), but keep in mind that if you start to take the piss (massive downloads and excessive usage) then they're likely to take notice. I've heard of anything from throttling to being told you have to upgrade to a 'heavy user' package at a higher cost.
I use mine regularly when out and about for basic stuff and there's no problems. Just don't try to use it as a primary internet connection and you should be fine.
thanks for the reply n i just wanna use it at work for surfing the forum n occasional stream i am using it just now on the mobile web setting full 3g signal so getting gr8 internet.
thanks
greg
Keep an eye on what your laptop is downloading in the background. Windows Update, AntiVirus definitions and the like can account for more data than your browsing.A third party monitor might be useful.
so going to alaska to work for 3 months with my dad and brother. Brother says he cannot use his HTC HD2 up there with T-mobiles network so they will allow us to get unlock codes for them and then we will use AT&T's Unlimited talk and text but we would like to see if there is a way to use the Wifi on our phones to surf the web on either browsers. We would be doing small things like checking our email and bank accounts.
Any help would be appricatied
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so going to alaska to work for 3 months with my dad and brother. Brother says he cannot use his HTC HD2 up there with T-mobiles network so they will allow us to get unlock codes for them and then we will use AT&T's Unlimited talk and text but we would like to see if there is a way to use the Wifi on our phones to surf the web on either browsers. We would be doing small things like checking our email and bank accounts.
Any help would be appricatied
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Absolutely, as long as you're within range of a wifi network that you have access to (i.e. one at your home/office or a public access point like starbucks, stc). You don't have to have a data plan to use the wifi, if that's what you're wondering
Another thing to remember if you have a nationwide plan with TMO using other towers is usually not a problem.
At home I use an AT&T tower about 30% of the time, I live in the boonies , so a nationwide plan has no roaming charges no matter who's tower you are using ...
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Another thing to remember if you have a nationwide plan with TMO using other towers is usually not a problem.
At home I use an AT&T tower about 30% of the time, I live in the boonies , so a nationwide plan has no roaming charges no matter who's tower you are using ...
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haha I wish that it would even get a bit of service. Brother is already there and he says he can't even make a call without losing service. T-Mobile said they will suspend service for 3 months or how ever long it takes and will add it to our 2 year contract.
And so he trys using Wifi which the building he stays in has and when he goes into opera or internet explorer he gets an error, trying to find the error from him and will post. Does anybody know if their is settings that need to be changed. He is checking this by turning off the phone radio and only connecting to wifi. He does not want to be charged extra by AT&T, thanks for your help.
we do have custom roms on our HD2's. FYI
EDIT:Error for Opera Could not locate remote server
You tried to access the address http://www.htc.com/ which is currrently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
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haha I wish that it would even get a bit of service. Brother is already there and he says he can't even make a call without losing service. T-Mobile said they will suspend service for 3 months or how ever long it takes and will add it to our 2 year contract.
And so he trys using Wifi which the building he stays in has and when he goes into opera or internet explorer he gets an error, trying to find the error from him and will post. Does anybody know if their is settings that need to be changed. He is checking this by turning off the phone radio and only connecting to wifi. He does not want to be charged extra by AT&T, thanks for your help.
we do have custom roms on our HD2's. FYI
EDIT:Error for Opera Could not locate remote server
You tried to access the address http://www.htc.com/ which is currrently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
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Sounds like the phone is not getting everything it needs from the access point, some type of misconfiguration, needs to make sure he is getting and IP address , gateway and DNS servers .... should browse over wifi without using the phone radio with no problem, do it all the time at home ...
But if you are just going to be web browsing, turning off the phone radio does save some battery ...
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Sounds like the phone is not getting everything it needs from the access point, some type of misconfiguration, needs to make sure he is getting and IP address , gateway and DNS servers .... should browse over wifi without using the phone radio with no problem, do it all the time at home ...
But if you are just going to be web browsing, turning off the phone radio does save some battery ...
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So I basically found out that the network adapters were set to manual config and I should set them to automatic. Which I did and was able to connect to recieve my mail and go on the web via wifi with radio turned off but this is at my home which is my belkin.
I then tried calling him and having him set it up (he's not so tech savy) and he was connected to linksys and it still gave him the errors, He is going to the office of the company he works for to see if he can get the password for the other wifi network that is on the list. He sees people on their laptops browsing internet. So maybe i'll just buy a little Netbook for going up there.
Thanks for all your help you guys.
Hi,
I live in Australia. I bought a SGS from UK. It has nothing changed in firmware its the same as it comes from the box. (just a few games and apps installed from the android market).
My problem is when I connect the SGS to my laptop through the USB cable and I chose "PC INTERNET" I get a connection but i get a lot of drop outs, I would say being honestly every 5 minutes my connection drops. I live right in the city and my phone has good reception so its not the reception.
I haven't tried teethering (i dont wanna teether coz mobile plans says, NO teethering).
What can I do to fix the drop out connection problem.
if you are using your internet via the LAPTOP over the USB cable, then you need to figure out WHY your LAPTOP is not connecting properly to the Internet.
it takes about 1 min to connect and when it connects i choose HOME connetion. than it works good for 5 mins and it drops out and reconnects itself.
Correct me if I've read your post incorrectly but isn't what you're doing tethering?
From Wikipedia: "Tethering is the use of a mobile device such as a mobile phone to supply Internet access for another device which is otherwise unconnected, using the mobile device as a modem. This can be done through Bluetooth wireless technology, Portable Wi-Fi hotspots, or cables (such as USB)."
well yes and no...
it is teethering but carriers cant prove that.
however
if i do select teether on my phone it says something like this option will use black hole date or something (from my understanding is that it will use different data to my free date) so i choose to try the cable connect than select interent connection.
anyways the problem is still there... has anyone got any solutions or give me some ideas?
thanks
are you trying to use your phone as a modem or not?
if you are, then we can help you there are many ways to do it.
but if you are doing the opposite, using your laptop internet, for your phone to access internet (which doesn't make any sense at all) then we can't help you as it's a laptop problem.
im trying to use my phone as a modem but in a way without carriers finding out im actually using my phone to teether.
my problem is that my connection keeps droping every 5 minutes for 10-30sec.
I use my Galaxy as a modem and I had nothing but hassle when connecting using the cable. I found out its far better to go into settings then wireless settings then switch mobile AP on. Your phone sends the connection over wifi to the pc and gives me no hassle at all.
I reckon the only way your service provider would know is by looking at how much data you use so just be careful and you should be fine. Or find out what your monthly limit is and put a data counter on the phone, I use Netcounter, its free and simple but gives the info you need like daily, weekly and monthly usage
yup, the wireless method is by far the easiest one, and best of all it is build in!
as for your cell phone provider finding out, regardless of what you do, they don't care, they only check how much data you used up, and charge you that amount
well im on 1gb per month. Plenty of data there.
I tried another method today: turn bluetooth on and connect through bluetooth and that seem to works perfectly. I was online for 3 hours without dropping once.
Now I`m wondering why was it dropping with the cable connected? And not even once through bluetooth!
I understand your Problem, but at time i reading your last Post i have an question.
I understand your Posts that you dont use Wireless thether becouse your Carrier dont Allow Laptops to Acces Wireless conections right?
But it makes no difference if you use the cable or a wireless conection to thether your Internet. If you surf under the radar you dont getting into troubles. And there is no blackhole Data when you tether wireless. Its a gprs, edeg, 3g or umts Connection and your Phone manage this automaticly. So now comes my question. Why you dont use the build in wireless tether function which is the fastest and easiest way to connect. You dont need the phone directly near the laptop, you can give it to the point of best data connection, okay and a powerstrip for the akku. But its much faster then the Bluetooth connection, becouse of wlan.
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"And there is no blackhole Data when you teether wireless"
From now on I will use the AP to connect. I thought the carriers (OPTUS) might find out. But since they can't find out than this is the best option. Thanks for confirming they cant find out weather I connected my laptop or just used the date from my phone.
This remind my at the old days where you share your internet connection thru a soho rooter or just another pc with 2 network cards built in. In these early days the Provider says its forbidden to use the connection for more pcs than one. But in fact they never could meassure this and no one ever gets an letter from them or an contract decline/service interuption. The truth is, that there was a kind of law process against them and now the isp's is forbidden to limit the usage of your internet connection to only one device. So that means not that you get unlimited numbers of ip adresses, but you can NAT as much devices you want. Now you get from every ISP a Preconfigured router if you like.
And the same will hapen over a pariod of time to the wireless providers as well. Its your connection so you can use them the way u like it. Its already happend here, you can buy umts router for your home.
Where i live there is no question like this. Just do it. But maybe its becouse of our mentalogiy. If somone says no the typical austrian will do it anyway and gives no dime to what others say. If no one forbid you something then its allready allowed to do. ;-)
Greetings to Australia (the country with the kangaroos) like we here in Austria say. lol
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Thanks for that info. That takes my concerns/stress away. Just didn't wanna receive a thousand dollar bill that's all I cared