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I have searched before posting this.
What I want to do is to reload Winmobile 5 onto my TyTN WITHOUT the built-in apps like calendar, word, etc also being loaded in. I would like to load up the phone app but not anything else.
Can this be done please? If so how?
Thanks
WB
I'm not an expert...but think you could try to cook your own ROM; modify the existing WM5 ROM you have and remove all the things you dont want to be there....
I don't know if the existing tools posted in the forum could also be used to modify a WM5 ROM...but could give it a try if you want.
Regards;
Mablan
Mablan,
I was hoping it was a rather more simple process, such as using a special sequence of the bootloader to do this, rather than have to cook ROMS. Appreciate the thought though.
Anyone else able to throw some light on this question?
Thanks
WB
mablan said:
I'm not an expert...but think you could try to cook your own ROM; modify the existing WM5 ROM you have and remove all the things you dont want to be there....
I don't know if the existing tools posted in the forum could also be used to modify a WM5 ROM...but could give it a try if you want.
Regards;
Mablan
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I am afraid most of the programmes are part of the operating system and you will not find a rom here customised to your specs, the last poster was right if you want a stripped out rom to your specs you had better get cooking that is the only way. Look on the Wiki under Hermes for the info you need if you are into D.I.Y.
Guys,
Thanks for the info. Ah well, looks like I'm either off to find a cooked ROM or I live with what I have got.
Cheers
WB
I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
Custom ROMs are usually a lot more stable and perform much better in different aspects. There are programs for almost anything, you just need to search for them
Dmarsh508 said:
I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
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if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
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if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
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the wki how to link does not seem to work and i read a bit about this new rom and multiple people have said its slower than stock. also what is rev-a. does that have something to do with free tethering? sorry if this is a stupid question. Im just really new to all this.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
The kitchen is used to cook the ROM. The ROM is what you install on the device. First install hardspl on the device and then run the ROM of your liking. After the flash, be sure to perform a hard reset.
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also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
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This wiki... Titan Recent should explain it all. It is step by step. The only thing you may have to substitute... if it hasn't been updated is the correct files. IE... 3.42.50 radio... and 3.2.5 rom. The kitchen allows you to select different programs that DCD didn't include in the ROM. If you download the kitchen, you can leave it alone... run BuildNB.bat and just "Play" that... and it will work the same as the ROM that DCD made for everyone to use.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
sorry bout the double post
ok im stuck on the bootloader mode. after i updated to SPL-2.40.olipro i am stuck what do i do?!?
hy all. i have a problem (wish): i want to install a clean rom ( i have it allready) and i want to customize it with the programs that i want to, and then, to save this rom (i supose that i have to dump it and reconstruct it) exactly with my settings/applications/etc. can i do that? if I can, how? thx alll.
When you customize your polaris on the device itself, it doesn't change the ROM on it. So dumping it will not give you a new ROM. You'll have to change the ROM on the desktop, and upload it afterwards. There are a lot of topics about ROM building.
ok. thx. i will go then to that topics. thx.
Yes but the problem is that all those posts are about porting a 6.1 rom from another device to polaris.
Now that we have a 6.1 rom how exactly do we cook it and flash it back?
Here's my problem: I have the PTG 6.1 rom, but I want to replace the CF2 with CF3.5 and replace TTN6 with TTN7, and flash it back.
I already have Kitchen 1.3, extracted the 'RUU_signed.nbh' and a dump of 03_OS.nb.payload.
Now, where do I go from here?. I want a rom that's exactly the same as the official one but with the changes I mentioned above.
I'm a complete noob at this cooking rom issue. I've read lots of threads but I've only gotten more confused about all the XIPs, SYSs, OEMs and stuff, and I think the same happens with other users.
I know that some of the actual cookers were once in the same place I'm now, so can someone point me out the rigth way and if possible post a detailed tutorial on how to extract, cook and flash back a rom on POLARIS, me and lots of users would apreciate it a LOT.
Second That Thought.
What would be nice to see (if possible) the following,
as an example:
1. Download Polaris ROM Kitchen v1.3
2. Extract to c:\Kitchen
3. Copy your ROM image (*.nbh) to X:\
4. Run command
...20. Install Package (M2D.cab) by doing the following ...
21. Recombine the ROM by doing the follow commands ...
22. Flash your ROM to your Polaris
23. Hard Reset and verify that the package you installed is in your ROM
Congrats
A step by step like that, which walks a user though the process of a demo ROM and a demo *.cab for learning would be FANTASTIC!!!
Thanks in advance to whoever can help us out!
Juxtyce
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Any help from the professionals out there?
Look here:
1. .Net2.0 => .net3.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2685138&postcount=22
2. replace the ttn.cab file in the folder "\kitchen.work\Build\OEM\OEMAPPS" with the TomTom7 cab. If it don't have the same name, rename the new cab or edit the file 'config_AP.txt' in the same folder
hope it will help you I managed it this way.
P.S. I didn't change the XIP as mentioned in the given thread. See following posts
I will dump the wm6.1 rom for you guys, and provide you with a kitchen with some packages you can use.
I will do so for all available languages that is available with official wm6.1
But,that is gonna be quite time consuming, and I hope that you understand that I ask this in return:
Any small donation for the time I use on that will be of help.
I dont say that its required, not at all. I am not doing this for money.
But the number of hours I spend on this is getting pretty high.
I will do this project either you donate or not.
cheers
thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?
dunno if it's the good topic to post but let's try.
I see many fantastic people cooking excellent roms (i wish i could do the same...), and, in those roms, a lot of softwares.
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
and seperate cabs to install what you want?
for example, manilla 2d is cool, but many people like spb mobile shell better, so it's wasted memory.
May be i'm just wrong, don't understanding how it all works, so plz explain to me !
ady_uaic said:
thank you a lot itje. can you make in romanian also?
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if the language is available; yes
taniwha913 said:
Isn't it possible to just have a rom with the bare minimum?
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There is a large choice of ROM's, some loaded with extra's, some very minimally equiped. There are so many that your favorite must be out there already. Just search for it.
Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Integrated Manila 2D into cooked ROM is surely a better solution, however most people prefer a clean ROM. Beside due to limitation of the flash size (32MB i think), it would requires to remove lots of even basic application come with the ROM.
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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krishan2207 said:
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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exactly...
M2D cooked in
I'v tryed to fit "M2D" in a cooked ROM you can get the main files in there' But not enough of the image files, I also did some test builds "without" the calc, media player,dialer,and commManager skins, And Flashed them from "ExtROM" as Themes It Seamed to Work fine But you would still Be adding A large number of files Via ExtROM so not much to be gained (can't say It was any different speed wise)
My origonal Idear was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
So If you fancy a try and some people are intrested in making some Skins then I'll cook My New V3 and working version of M2D into a "ROM" With all Skins Removed and Post it with One Full Set of Skins in CAB files and folders of files for you to edit and i'll even pack some of your Themes into CABs and we'll see what Comes of it
I would like at least 5 people to be intrested in assisting with skins as I don't Have enough time to do it all
So If you would like to have a GO then you need to say SO or i'll not bother that's my offer regards
swampy395
I think it is a great idea, manila2 in a cab with no skin, and the default skin in a separate .cab so we can replace and tinker with it at leisure
I am in to give a hand!
Ok people think about it just for a minute, Manila 2D has a size of 12 mb, with a rom of 32 mb even if it is compressed we have to cut a lot of things from main rom to make this possible, and the the stupid questions will come, why this or that not work. Thats why i am working on a proper kitchen so the people can choose whatever packages they want in rom and make it themself. So if the rom does not boot or has audio video formats problems or software compatiblity problems this will be the builder configuration fault not mine or any other rom cooker.
Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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My original Idea was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
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Well this is good as idea(i mean the complete customization from cabs and saving space from the skins in the rom area) but you have to make manila not to load on startup because without skin it will just crash and you will have to reset, and there will be infinite loop ...
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Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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I would love to give this a try, but I don't know enough about the interdependencies of the root packages to build a reliable options.XML file. Could you post a list of the diff packages that are part of the ROM with a notation of which are required, which are nice to have and which can be left out? If you do, then I will try to build an Options.xml file and post it for testing with your kitchen.
I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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you cooked it in rom or what ?
No, I haven´t gone yet for cooking, I just tinkered with the .cab files in the ExtROM folder.
See my separate thread for details
Themes
Hi guys
NO fighting
As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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Hi guys
NO fighting
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Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
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As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
motisu said:
Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
Swampy, if you cook my modded M2D you will have some 100Kb more to play with in the first place...
Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
Swampy, but there is an alternative to Windows media player,
Mplayer, a 4megs cab. Supports many formats, it is lean and a standard in Linux (available for Windows Mobile)
Download MPlayer for Windows Mobile
You could remove everything to do with windows media player and put them on a .cab, then give users a choice; windows media.cab or mplayer.cab
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
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Sorry, but I'm still not following you. In the first post of your 20275 thread and in your sig, you have a M2D version. If this isn't the M2d in ROM version, then what is it? If all that you did was leave out the today plugins, what did you use the extra ROM space for? Also, I never use WMP as almost any other player is far better IMHO (Coreplayer, S2P, Tcpmp,Mortplayer, Etc.) If I don't use it, will I still need its support for diff file types?
Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
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I agree with gloomyboy. Since there are SO MANY differnt app/utilities that more or less do the same thing, it stands to reason that everybody will have their own preferences. If someone could build a kitchen that really allows you to pick and choose what goes into the ROM, everybody could custom tailor their ROM for what they really use. Unfortunately, AFAIK, all of the kitchens available today only allow periferal change and not major systems changes. I don't know why, maybe it is just my lack of understanding of the core requirements of a ROM and it can't be done any other way. But I can allways wish....
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Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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OK, now I get it. I do that myself with my own home grown EXTROM based more or less on Xplode's new release of M2D with all sorts of shortcuts and config files being copied from my SD card into memory. I am constantly changing my cfg.txt file to include newer versions and getting rid of apps and utilities that I find that I don't use. I think that the ROM should contain all the permanent stuff that will fit and I can't function without.
Hello.
I'm now on my second attempt at cooking roms and i've (i think) moved on a little from where i was.
I'm using OndraSters amazing visual kitchen.
I'm cooking 235653 XIP and SYS into a 1.75 Korean ROM using the packages from the new 02 1.72 ROM. I know this may not sound tough to some of you here, but it's taken me ages just to sus out a few simple things.
The position fix was fun as i'd never heard of it until i booted the ROM for the first time.
My question is, how do i go about cooking in cookies home tab? I turned the CABs in to an EXTs and i've seen a few tips about editing the registry before i cook it into the ROM, but how do i get it to look how i want on first boot?
My thoughts about ROMS in general is that i could add all cab/ext files i need and just export the reg file to be cooked in. I bet its not that simple, but any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your time
Toff74
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hello
not sure what is your question but refer link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664760
thanks for the link.. gonna try that now..
also, looks like a more relevant thread title too.
toff74