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internet access through ad hoc wifi connection?

hi, im not able to connect to the net with my wizard.
i dont have a wireless router so am connecting directly to my laptop, the ad hoc connection i have made works fine for file tranfers, but not for activesync or connecting to the web in either PIE or minimo.
i know activesync isnt possible but surely i should be able to use the broaband from my laptop?
any pointers would be greatly appreciated. software? settings?
its a t-mobile uk vario with qtek test rom.
also anyone know of a remote control utility, i use logmein but would like something a little more menu/macro based for control of media.
cheers
kevo

Try turning on Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on your laptop; that'll make your laptop act a bit more like a router, providing NAT services to the Wizard.

yeah i've tried that, and i've just tried bridging connections (dont really know much about that) but that hasnt worked either.
kevo

My configuration
Me too, I use ADHOC connection for my WLAN.
PC configuration:
ADSL connection shared
Adress IP:192.168.1.1 Mask:255.255.255.0
PocketPC configuration:
Adress IP:192.168.1.55 Mask:255.255.255.0 Gateway:192.168.1.1
DNS:80.10.246.2 for Wanadoo
Your problem is certainly the DNS.
You can put 192.168.1.1 too.

so it is possible? cool!.......but im still having problems.
i cant figure out how to enter these settings, not to sure where to put them,
iv tried puttin the DNS in the -> connections -> vpn
and -> network cards -> networks adapters -> SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter
sorry to be a pain, but could you point me to where to get each address and where to put them?
also is there anything particular you did to set up the adhoc network? i just used the Windows XP wizard and then ticket the AdHoc option after.
my laptop is conected to the router and the router is connected to aol adsl.
the ip address of my laptop is showing as a simple 10.0.0. number on the LAN but "Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.235.147" for the WLAN
none of my setup has a static ip address, could this be causing the problems?
thanks
kevo

It's more hazardous without static adress but it's can work.
My PC has directly access to the Internet with a ADSL modem.
It's here (network cards -> networks adapters -> SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter )
Apparently, it's ok for your PC and the Ad-Hoc mode.
Maybe, you should have your adress IP WLAN on the same network adress of your router.

I GOT IT WORKING!!!
I started again from scratch.
set a new WLAN. added new setup to the vario, added the DNS etc to the vario.
the problem i was having was the way i was sharing the internet connection, i was trying to shared the internet from the wireless to the lan rather than the internet from the lan to the wireless (if that makes sense to anyone!!!). i also ticked all the connection sharing services to allow them, just need to go through them and see which i dont need now.
thanks for the help guys
kevo
(its showing my transfer rate as 11Mbps, although i think iv done the G tweak and my laptop says its got a G card. what speeds should i be getting?)

Connecting through Wi-Fi with PPPoE?

Hello all,
I have just bought a Trinity, and was trying to connect to the internet through Wi-Fi... The problem is, I have to connect through PPPoE with a username/pw. Does anyone know how to do it on the Trinity?
Please note that I'm not too computer-savvy... I just know that my Windows-based computers don't connect to the internet automatically; I have to launch an application and enter a login/pw to connect. On my Mac, I have to launch airport AND 'connect through PPPoE' to connect. I heard there are wireless routers that have a PPPoE feature, and was wondering how that works? maybe I can just configure the PPPoE on the router, so that I don't have to go through the whole login process when connecting through Wi-Fi...?
Alternatively, is it possible to connect to the internet with the Trinity through my laptop's internet connection using Bluetooth or USB? (i.e. using the laptop as a "modem", not the other way around)
Thanks a bunch!

As far as I am aware the Trinity doesn't support the PPPoE protocol. What you will need to do is probably use internet passthrough with activesync. This is done by setting up your PDA with activesync, the passthrough should work automatically. If not try going to start->settings->connections->USB? (or something like that) and unchecking the box. I had to uncheck the box for passthrough to work.
The only other way would be to get the wireless router to do the PPPoE for you. This is what I do with my router, however the way to do it differs from router to router. You should check the manual to see if it is supported.

Using your 6800 as a Modem for your Wireless Router

ive had my cable shut off for a few months now and have been tethering my 6800 to my laptop and PC for internet access. recently, a buddy of mine needed to download a large app on his iphone which required being connected to a wireless network. my router was still on for networking purposes but did not have an internet connection. then i discovered an incredibly simple way to use the data connection from my phone as an internet line for my modem, effectively adding internet access to my wireless router and allowing his iphone, my laptop, my ps3, and PC, all to connect to the internet. i thought this maybe useful for others, so here's how to do it:
Requirements:
XV6800 (or any WinMo phone) with tethering enabled
PC/Laptop w/ LAN connection
1) Create a Dial-up connection for your phone, if you haven't already.
2) Connect to DUN
3) Open Control Panel --> Network Connections
4) Right-click your DUN and select Properties
5) On the 'General' tab, highlight your modem and click Configure, then set the Maximum Speed to 921600 and click OK (not required, seemed to increase speeds though)
6) On the 'Advanced' tab (XP) or 'Sharing' tab (Vista), enable the checkbox for 'Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet Connection' and click OK
7) Check the Status of your Local Area Connection. The IP address should now be 192.168.0.1
8) On your Wireless Router, move the LAN cable from its input jack into the 'Internet' jack.
9) You should see the internet activity light on your router light up and you are good to go!
NOTE: after sharing the DUN connection with your LAN, the IP settings for the LAN connection are set to a static IP of 192.168.0.1. You will have to change the IP settings back to 'Obtain IP address automatically' in order to have your LAN connection working properly again.

You can also get WMWifiRouter. It will uses the phones wifi to create an ad-hoc network and can tether via USB too. Version 0.89 is cooked into a few roms as it was one of the last free versions.
I have a Cradlepoint CTR-350 that I have been using so that I can connect with my PS3 and not need to set up connection sharing on my PC.

wemblers said:
You can also get WMWifiRouter. It will uses the phones wifi to create an ad-hoc network and can tether via USB too. Version 0.89 is cooked into a few roms as it was one of the last free versions.
I have a Cradlepoint CTR-350 that I have been using so that I can connect with my PS3 and not need to set up connection sharing on my PC.
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I've been using WMwifirouter as well. Have it on our Titan (xv6800) which my niece uses now. Had it on my HTC Touch Pro. And now I have it on my HTC Touch Pro 2.
I like the original posters idea alot too incase you didn't want to fork out $30 for the latest wmwifirouter software.

ah but as also indicated the last free versions work fine and do the same thing. I love using it on the go in my vehicle. My wife surfs the net while I drive on long trips.

HD2 as wirelss usb device?

Hi, I got a laptop without a wireless card for internet connection. So I've been using my HD2 as a USB wireless device, which gives me internet everywhere. THat very nice, and it works extremely well, however I got a question. WHen at home and at work I would like to connect to the wireless router, and not to my mobile internet, is that possible?
Because even tho i connect without problem to my own router at home, I cant really make my HD2 use that for my computer. Is it even possible?

nope... and that is the whole purpose of a wireless card, to pick up wifi signals from a router

It is possible.
Use ICS Control:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047
Setup should be as follows:
public interface: BCMSDDHD1
private interface: RNDISFN1
Connect your HD2 to WiFi network, click "Start ICS" and plug the cable in to your PC. Should work If you have XP, you should kill Active Sync process first.

Thank you, however I'm not sure that I do everything correctly.
There's quite a lot of settings in that pieve of software, is all I have to edit really the public and private interface drop down boxes? Nothing else?
And when connection to wifi, shall i then just minimize ICS controls, go to phone settings and connect to wifi there?
Thank you

What you want is for your phone to connect to the internet through wireless connection, not your phone's data/internet connection?
If so, then it's definitely possible. Not only at home and work, but also at many wifi spots throughout the world. How you go about it depends on some things.
Does your home and/or work wireless router connect straight to the internet (such as a connection from the wireless router to a cable modem, etc.) ? If so, you only need to know how to connect with the wireless router and your phone should default to that connection for internet when your phone's wifi is turned on. You can always turn data connection off when you turn wifi on to make sure it goes through wifi.
If your wireless router does not connect directly to the internet but one of the computers on the router's network does, then you'll have to use Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on that internet enabled computer as posted about above.

I want my phone connected to the wifi router, simple yes. However, then I want my phone to share the internet from the router, with a computer connected to the phone via usb cable.
So my phone will actually work as a wireless usb device, connecting to a wifi router.

WMWiFi Router provides following options on the phone:
1)3G converting to WiFi
2)3G converting to USB
3)3G converting to BlueTooth
4)WiFi converting to USB
5)USB converting to WiFi

Tether to Router?

So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?

Chopstix9 said:
So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?
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Or you could get a wireless adapter for your Desktop. That's what I did. Now I can stream Amazon Prime on my Xbox 360, and PC game at the same time.This is what I have and works like a charm.
Good luck.

Oh my desktop is already wireless enabled, that's not an issue... Been running the house off the phones for a couple years... Just gave up a little bit when I got rid of cable interet. Whole house networking to other computers in the house, had to plug the wireless printer back into the desktop, it's no longer a network printer, etc.... was just toying with the idea and wondering if it would work is all.
Actually, in looking at the micro usb - rj45 adapters, I don't think it will work. Those are actually ethernet adapters, like adding a network card to a slot on a pc. Made for taking a net signal FROM a network, not sending one TO it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you just get a compatible wireless dongle (Something you would use for sniffing/injecting packets) and use it as an access point so you can broadcast the signal throughout the house?
Another thing you can do is pick up a router that you can install Tomato or DD-WRT on and use it as a wireless client bridge. It would connect to your phone, and again, broadcast that signal through the house.

Chopstix9 said:
So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?
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DJNads said:
Another thing you can do is pick up a router that you can install Tomato or DD-WRT on and use it as a wireless client bridge. It would connect to your phone, and again, broadcast that signal through the house.
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Correct. Assuming the phone would even operate in this manner (I've never tried but sounds like a great idea!), you'd need a router that is capable of operating in bridged mode/wireless bridge/access point mode (may be labeled as either of them). You'd then have to configure the router to said bridged mode. An easier route (and possibly more expensive) would be to purchase just an access point.

MrHyde03 said:
Correct. Assuming the phone would even operate in this manner (I've never tried but sounds like a great idea!), you'd need a router that is capable of operating in bridged mode/wireless bridge/access point mode (may be labeled as either of them). You'd then have to configure the router to said bridged mode. An easier route (and possibly more expensive) would be to purchase just an access point.
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I may have an old WAP in my junk closet. A router that can bridge may work but first thing I think I would need is a router or WAP that has a USB connection on it.... I'm looking to plug the phone into the router to provide the internet signal instead of a cable/dsl modem, creating a typical LAN ... I can still use the LAN in-house sans the net connection. Just a pain to disconnect from one network (phone hotspot) and connect to another (netless LAN) for file transfers network printing etc ...

Chopstix9 said:
I may have an old WAP in my junk closet. A router that can bridge may work but first thing I think I would need is a router or WAP that has a USB connection on it.... I'm looking to plug the phone into the router to provide the internet signal instead of a cable/dsl modem, creating a typical LAN ... I can still use the LAN in-house sans the net connection. Just a pain to disconnect from one network (phone hotspot) and connect to another (netless LAN) for file transfers network printing etc ...
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You shouldn't need to physically connect your phone to the router at all. Depending on what router you get, it should be able to pick up the wireless signal from your phone's hotspot and rebroadcast it as its own network.
Edit: And honestly, I'm not sure connecting the phone via usb to the router would even share the connection. That router doesn't have the drivers needed for that to work.

To the OP, off topic question but what did you have to do to activate wi fi tether? your sig, tells me that your on stock and can still do it, yes? thanks!

Side note, it's been awhile but when I moved into my apartment I had no internet for a few days.
I did the USB wired tether to a laptop, then the laptop I think I enabled ICS/internet connection sharing and then connected with rj45 to a router, and it shared that as the WAN connection.

motrinHD said:
To the OP, off topic question but what did you have to do to activate wi fi tether? your sig, tells me that your on stock and can still do it, yes? thanks!
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What part of my sig tells you I am on stock?

I've done both these things. I've taken my cell and flashed a router with dd-wrt and set it up as a repeater bridge but that means that only the computers near that router gets internet, unless your house is wired for ethernet (or using wireless). My current setup is having the phone tethered to a computer running Zentyal linux. This is a cool distro that can replace a 2008 Small business server in a work environment but it does the trick for my router at home. I had it running on an old P4 and recently graduated to a Zotac Zbox Mini ID41 which is tucked away behind my TV. I set up the computer to hand out dhcp and be the router and gateway. When i plug in my cell in tethering mode, zentyal recognizes it and i set that USB device as external WAN. It usually takes some getting used to and about a minute to normalize after the phone is unplugged and taken on the road. This has worked for me so far but when i'm at work, no internet at home. I'm currently attempting to talk my workplace into letting me subsidize a Verizon Jetpack i can leave home which will do the same job.
As a side note, i live in rural WI and we only have Satellite internet as a choice, which really stinks as both carriers have a bandwidth cap which we were constantly hitting two weeks into the billing cycle. They then throttle you down to less than a meg until your billing cycle renews.

We RV all summer most years and I use WiFiRanger gear to network our 5th wheel. That way we can grab a WiFi AP if one is available and the credentials are known or I HotSpot my phone and the Router grabs the phone's WiFi AP and we are good to go.
If you are stationary and only intend to use the phone's HotSpot as a WiFi AP then WiFiRanger's GO2 should do the trick. They are currently working on a firmware upgrade that will allow some great bandwidth monitoring and device usage controls. Their price is comparable to most full featured routers being offered but not cheap.
I am a satisfied user and Beta tester of their equipment, not an employee or representative. We use several of their offerings to maximize our capabilities on the road.