I just bought a SX56 and was using it with T-mobile service. I switched to Cingular and when I put my sim card in, I can't get a signal. I have tried to change the gsm bands but even this doesn't work. Can someone please help because I love the features of this phone and don't want to go back to a normal phone.
Have you unlocked it?
Yes it's unlocked. I've tried it on all bandwidths and it won't detect cingular network. When I manually do it it won't save or work when I put cingular's network at the top of the list.
Cingular operates on 850/1900 and some world phones on 1800 to. What is the problem I may have. Can I not use my SX56 with cingular?
you should be able to use a t-mo radio stack on a SX56 to get signal with Cingular GSM. You may have change the radio stack if you are still using AT&T radio stack. Cingular is still converting TDMA to GSM in some areas. While to-mo has allways been GSM in the US. Rare poss explination: AT&T selling GSM SX56 in your area that they have recently gone GSM in. You a t-mo customer bought a gsm phone and used it on another gsm providers network, then attempted to switch to Cingular which may not have gone GSM in your area. If you went into a Cingular store and they gave you a SIM card they should have gsm coverage. If this is the case I would bet your radio stack is still AT&T's so try changing to t0-mo stack and see what you get. Search this forum for links under ROM upgrades or try yorch.net.
Since we are on the subject oes anyone know where to get a generic worldwide radio stack for the XDA1 like on the i-Mate(s)? :?
I tried to download radio stacks from yorch.net and get error pages. Any other ideas? I lost and I really like this phone.
bigjusee said:
Cingular operates on 850/1900 and some world phones on 1800 to. What is the problem I may have. Can I not use my SX56 with cingular?
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It depends on the area you are in for Cingular, most of their GSM operations are on 850 which the SX56 won't work on. If you are in the Carolina's I know it will work, but the other areas outside of here depend on the area. If you ask Cingular about it they will probably tell you it won't work. I would just ask Cingular what freqs. the towers in your area support. That will tell you for sure whether it will work or not.
Siemens sx 56.... cingular
Same here.... My sx56 reads "NO SERVICE"... I was not sure if it was the sim or not so I took it to a local Cingular Dealer and the tecnician took my sim and inserted it to a Cingular cell phone and the service came on... Inserted the sim back in the Sx56 and again "NO SERVICE"
Things Ive tried ....
- reset the SX56
- went to boot loader mode (ver ver 5.22) and did the GSM Audio test and this produced a load audible sound
- went back to the bootloader mode and selected the GSM 900, 900/1800, and 1900 and still "NO SERVICE"
- then I thought.... could it be locked? inserted a Tmobile sim again and the service came on... NOT LOCKED
MAN... WHATS going on!?!?!? previous to this Cingular service I had Tmobile which worked like a breeze... WAP and ALL!!!!
Any IDEAS anyone???
AND a BIG CONGRATS>>>>>> to the developers putting all this effort on this product and on such a COOL looking web site.
Rom version: 4.00.05 ENG
ROM date: 06/05/03
radio version: A.20.10
protocol version: 324e4
XDA1 issues with Cingular
OK, here is my life story:
I purchased the XDA from ATT Wireless but want to use it on Cingular, so I unlocked the XDA and it working fine with the Cingular SIM. (However, the network XDA picked up is T-Mobile and not Cingular). And the XDA works great in my hometown Houston, Texas.
I then travel to Indianapolis, Indiana, as soon as I got out of the plane, switched on the XDA, and got a signal for celluar service. Great so far.
When I get to my office which is 60 miles southeast of Indianapolis, I got no signal. When inquire the available network, I can see several Cingular networks listed on top of the drop-down list, and then ATT Wireless, and then T-Mobile, but the XDA won't be able to register to any of these networks??? Then funny thing is this is the place where I signed up with Cingular service.
When I contact Cingular, the representative said that the XDA appear to work while roaming onto other networks, but it will not in the local Cingular service area. She said that my PDA phone is not compatible with the local network. Is this possible?
Originally, my RS version is A.20.10, I then upgrade to A.33.02 in hoping to resolve the problem, but no luck.
I'm now trying to upgrade my RS to T-Mobile 6.24.00 from yorch.net but when unzip the file, it asks for a password. Does anyone know what the password is???
Am I going in the right direction to make my XDA usable in a Cingular network?
I am having the same issue getting my unlocked T-Mobile PPCPE to register on a network when using a Cingular Wireless SIM in the Atlanta area.
The phone can see both T-Mo and AT&T networks when using the Cingular SIM, but it will not register one either one of them...? It does not see the Cingular network however, as I believe that Cingular is using the 850 band, with roaming agreement in place with T-Mo and AT&T.
I am using the WM2003 ROM and radio versions.
Any ideas why it will not register on the T-Mo or AT&T network, even though it "sees" them...?
I am having the same issue getting my unlocked T-Mobile PPCPE to register on a network when using a Cingular Wireless SIM in the Atlanta area.
The phone can see both T-Mo and AT&T networks when using the Cingular SIM, but it will not register one either one of them...? It does not see the Cingular network however, as I believe that Cingular is using the 850 band, with roaming agreement in place with T-Mo and AT&T.
I am using the WM2003 ROM and radio versions.
Any ideas why it will not register on the T-Mo or AT&T network, even though it "sees" them...?
I am a Cingular customer care rep and I can tell you that the XDA will not work in the Indiana or Atlants markets. Reason being is that those markets are 850 and has no signs of being 1900 atleast until the AT&T buyout happens.
I am in South Mississippi and when we go GSM it will be 1900 but if I travel back to New Orleans I get no Cingular service because it again is another 850 market.
At this point the only 1900 GSM markets we have in the Southeast US is the Carolinas, Mobile, and South MS. Everyone else is 850.
Many thanks for the response. The curious thing to me is that if my device can accutally "see" the T-Mo and AT&T networks when it has a Cingular SIM installed, why won't it let me register on those 1900 Band networks? It seems that the Cingular SIM is somehow locked to the 850band and prevents the device connecting to any other network.... Is it because that where a Cingular 850band network exists, Cingular does not have roaming agreements in place with the other providers in that area? Do you know if the Cingular SIM could the SIM be programmed/enabled on the network side to allow a connection to a 1900 network?
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Many thanks for the response. The curious thing to me is that if my device can accutally "see" the T-Mo and AT&T networks when it has a Cingular SIM installed, why won't it let me register on those 1900 Band networks? It seems that the Cingular SIM is somehow locked to the 850band and prevents the device connecting to any other network.... Is it because that where a Cingular 850band network exists, Cingular does not have roaming agreements in place with the other providers in that area? Do you know if the Cingular SIM could the SIM be programmed/enabled on the network side to allow a connection to a 1900 network?
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I have thought the same thing at times and unfortunately I can't say one way or the other. I do know that with my XDA when I travel back to New Orleans I lose signal literally when I cross the state line. I am buying an 850 capable phone soon so I can test my theory out and see what can be done.
Does your say unable to register on network too? When I switched my band to 1800 for some reason I was able to see the Cingular network on the phone but again not able to get on the network.
yes, excatly, "cannot register on the network"... I have a "wild" theroy that says if I get a SIM from a Cingular store in an area where they have a native 1900 Band network, it might be set up in such a way to let me roam in the Atlanta area...? The other question I had that you may be able to answer is do Cingular sell any GSM phones that do NOT have the 850 band, or are all the Cingular GSM phones now 850/1900/900 ?
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yes, excatly, "cannot register on the network"... I have a "wild" theroy that says if I get a SIM from a Cingular store in an area where they have a native 1900 Band network, it might be set up in such a way to let me roam in the Atlanta area...? The other question I had that you may be able to answer is do Cingular sell any GSM phones that do NOT have the 850 band, or are all the Cingular GSM phones now 850/1900/900 ?
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I can squash your theory on the SIM right now because I have an active sim from a 1900 market and it still don't work.
As far as the 1900 only phones, we haven't carried them in about 2 years because the Carolinas and California were our only GSM markets for a while and we had no need for 850 but now all we have is dual band or higher for 850.
Ok, many thanks. That will save me a trip to the Cingular store in Ohio when I am there next week So, a Cingular SIM will work in any Cingular dual band (or higher) phone allowing it to switch between available 850 and 1900 band networks that are operated by Cingular. In the case where a Cingular network is present, will they let you pick another carriers network (say AT&T) or will it force you to the Cingular network every time?
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Ok, many thanks. That will save me a trip to the Cingular store in Ohio when I am there next week So, a Cingular SIM will work in any Cingular dual band (or higher) phone allowing it to switch between available 850 and 1900 band networks that are operated by Cingular. In the case where a Cingular network is present, will they let you pick another carriers network (say AT&T) or will it force you to the Cingular network every time?
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It always will look for Cingular first but then go from there to a certain list of carriers and if those are not found it says to hell with it and takes anything it can get.
Hmmmm... still a mystery then, as my PPC PE could see both AT&T and TMo networks when the Cingular SIM was in it, but was unable to connect to either of them...? I have some contacts in the Cingular IT organization in Atlanta, so I'll see if they can shed any more light. Will let you know what I find out.
I feel your pain
If you think your experience is frustrating the plot thickens.
I'm in South Florida.
I have a TMobile that I unlocked middle of last year (Aug/Sep 2003) put in a Cingular SIM and worked perfectly (Roaming on the TMobile 1900 network) then a few months ago I had a lot of Outdoors, rugged type activities planned so I decided to pamper my PocketPC and put the Cingular SIM back into the "disposable" Cingular GSM that I got for a penny
Well days turned into weeks and months so a few days ago I decided to put the SIM back into the PocketPC. When I did, I got a "no signal" from both SIM's. I tried setting(bandwidth) and testing the GSM through the bootloader etc. You name it I tried it . I eventually upgraded to the TMobile WM2003 ROM and Radio Stack in desperation. And you guessed it...No joy. I get "NO SERVICE"
I know Cingular down here has migrated to the 850 but I don't know why roaming on TMobile 1900 has been disabled.
So in a nutshell: Cingular SIM used to work in a TMobile XDA up to a few months ago and now doesn't.
Hi All,
I was wondering if I could use my unlocked 8525 with Verizon's net work if I switched to them? I'm not sure about compatability of the phone with Verizon's voice and data services and was wondering if anyone knew.
Thanks
I dont think so. Att and verizon use two different technologies. Att uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. Im almost certain tho a phone that is based on GSM cannot be used on a CDMA network. The phone will work on TMobile or USCellular. They use a GSM based technology. Verizon Sprint and Nextel all use CDMA. If i am wrong and you can use the GSM based phone with Verizon CDMA then someone please correct me. But i am pretty certain you cannot.
OK,thanks. Thats what I thought
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
mistadj16 said:
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
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Not that I've ever seen.
I know sprint phones have sim card slots, but they are not used, at least in the USA.
My guess is that CDMA phones can be used in the same way as GSM phones as far as switching sims to use different carriers, but the CDMA carriers in the 'states don't use that functionality (probably to keep a tighter grip on their sucke....customers and wring more money from them through phone sales/upgrades and extra services, like a data service to put on extra ring tones )
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
CDMA and GSM phones are totally different. The only SIM based verizon phone that Ive seen its the Blackberry 8300 its world edition soo it can bu used through a cdma and also a GSM carrier. I would be interested if anyone knows how to say make a sprint phone capable of being on verizons network. That would be something different.
actually a sprint phone is capable of being used on verison network any cdma phone is. in short the way cdma works the subscriber info is assigned to the phone's esn by the carrier so only the carrier can change your phone with gsm the sim (Subscriber Identity Module) holds the subscriber info and it is assigned to a sim card id not a esn (electronic serial number) so all you have to do to get a sprint phone to work for verizon is get verizon to let it (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT) you would have better luck the other way around verizon is the pickiest co out there when it comes to network integrity and security issues they seem to think that letting people use any phone they want could somehow hurt their network
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I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
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WCDMA is 3G. 3G on GSM systems is essentially a CDMA standard, but not the same CDMA as Verizon uses. It is not compatible.
-Jay
Hi there all,
I like a lot this sharp crystal and I want to buy one from eby
Can anybody tell me witch one I must buy in order to use it with Vodafone Italy ?
And if it's allready possible to unlook it please ?
Thanks a lot
Denis
I don't know
There are 2 Version,
Japan 305SH = GSM Version, BUT locked to SOFTBANK, the JAPAN Provider. If you manage to unlock the Phone, you can use it with any GMS Provider.
US 306SH = CDMA = NOT WORKING IN EU or any GSM Network !
To understand the difference between, read this. CDMA vs. GSM: What's the Difference?
Now the interesting part, maybe the US Version has the Hardware for GSM Networks, but its just blocked by the Sharp-Software.
What do we need to use the phone in EU or any GSM Network
A Person whos able to unlock the Japan-Versoin form Softbank or to disable the possible software block of the GMS function on the US-Version.
So far there is no public why to use the Phone in any other GMS Network than Softbank.
Thanks a lot
Great answer
onroP89 said:
There are 2 Version,
Japan 305SH = GSM Version, BUT locked to SOFTBANK, the JAPAN Provider. If you manage to unlock the Phone, you can use it with any GMS Provider.
US 306SH = CDMA = NOT WORKING IN EU or any GSM Network !
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Hello, so if I take the phone outside Japan it should work with any GSM network without unlocking from Softbank? Currently I bought the 306SH and it is not working on GSM in India. Haven't tried it on CDMA. It is no contract but locked on Boost.
NemesisMB said:
Hello, so if I take the phone outside Japan it should work with any GSM network without unlocking from Softbank? Currently I bought the 306SH and it is not working on GSM in India. Haven't tried it on CDMA. It is no contract but locked on Boost.
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305SH = GSM Version, BUT locked to SOFTBANK, the JAPAN Provider. If you manage to unlock the Phone, you can use it with any GMS Provider.
You need to Unlock it. But so far there is not way to do that.
Sharp aquos crystal source code
I am being emailed the source code for this phone
onroP89 said:
There are 2 Version,
Japan 305SH = GSM Version, BUT locked to SOFTBANK, the JAPAN Provider. If you manage to unlock the Phone, you can use it with any GMS Provider.
US 306SH = CDMA = NOT WORKING IN EU or any GSM Network !
To understand the difference between, read this. CDMA vs. GSM: What's the Difference?
Now the interesting part, maybe the US Version has the Hardware for GSM Networks, but its just blocked by the Sharp-Software.
What do we need to use the phone in EU or any GSM Network
A Person whos able to unlock the Japan-Versoin form Softbank or to disable the possible software block of the GMS function on the US-Version.
So far there is no public why to use the Phone in any other GMS Network than Softbank.
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do you know how to use GSM ONLY on 305sh? is there any software to make it happen?
sharp aquos
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I am being emailed the source code for this phone
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Hi
Where can I get the code? Thank you.
Looking at the LTE bands, it seems to have the main ones needed for Verizon service. I don't want to buy the CDMA version in case I need to switch in the near future.
No. Bands may be the same but the radios in the device are different.
Yeah the one I been using the past month only worked with GSM sims. I been using a T-Mobile sim
It does "work" for LTE and data. You will have issues with voice calls though since VOLTE is packaged as part of Verizon's Advanced calling. If you HAVE to use it, set up a google voice or SIP account to forward to your Verizon number. That being said, wait for the CDMA version to be available to have full functionality.