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MDA Questions after a week of use...

Hello...
I recieved my MDA last saturday, and since then, have been trying to figure everything out. After multiple calls to tmobile, and even a trip back to the store, i'm still stuck with a few questions that i cannot seem to get answered.
1. The MDA came with the default Tmobile theme which works fine in portrait & in landscape, as well as the default blue Windows theme.
However, I have tried to install multiple themes(including some from microsoft themeselves) and i have one annoying error! Whenever I use an "installed" theme, the portrait screen looks fine, but when I open the keyboard...there are two large greyish/white gaps on the side of the theme.
Ex: I'm using a green theme. When in landscape mode, i have a single green square in the middle of the screen with a strip on either side(left or right)
2. My phone is HORRIBLY slow when and if ANYTHING 3rd party is installed. I've tried today plugins that control the memory usage(figured that would help)...however, it just slowed things done. My phone usually runs at about 14mb Free Program Memory, out of the total 44MB(This seems horrible...with just the default programs installed*for the most part* and maybe agile messenger running.). If i install a today plugin, or a game...this drops below 10mb. Therefore, phone usage can be very aggravating. I cannot think of any other way to increase this memory expect for ONE thing. Would it be possible to transfer ALL programs, applications, etc to the miniSD Card(i have 1gb now, with a 2gb in the mail). This way...i certaintly would not be topping out the usage of the card, and hopefully I can free up alot of space on the phone.
3. As we all know, the packaged IM programs are AWFULLY slow and inconsistent. After a bit of research and trials, I have settled on using Agile Messenger. I'm loving it...expect for a few things.
The MAJOR problem I have with it, is the pop up notification. Its annoying to be surfing the web or playing a game, just to have a pop up tell you that you have recieved a message, EVERY TIME you get a new message(which can amount to a great deal in a short time). I've looked all over for a setting, so unless I missed it, is there any way to shut this off?
A side issue with this program, and also the connectivity of the phone is...:
(even WITH the GPRS hack*always on*), I still lose connection(with 2-4 bars of signal) and therefore i get signed off of Agile, rather often. This isnt' such a problem with me, as seeing it takes a short time to log back in. However, when you look at the conversation from another person's point of view...all you see is
"Soandso" Logged off
"Soandso" logged on
etc
etc
(not sure if that last part was a question or a statement, but if theres an answer, i'd like to hear it!)
4.
My girlfriend has a sidekick, and I LOVE the feature of being able to set phone profiles for specific times of the day. Especially during school, it'll go silent, and the second we are out, its back on normal. I have downloaded PZP to try and fix this loss of luxury. However, I personally don't find the program to be very consistent. Sometimes, it seems as if say my "school" profile is fully functioning, while other times, it really doesnt. Call me crazy, but I have taken a shot in the dark and ventured to say that if one touches the volume button on the phone while the phone is on a specific profile...it will throw it out of its cycle. If anyone has some hints/comments/suggestions of their own on this program or other favorites...I would love to hear from you.
5. After I went about and downloaded the Eten dial pad skin, I noticed that all of my contacts were unable to receive contact photos. I quickly realized that any contact that was saved on my SIM card from my previous phone was stuck in this predictament. However, if i were to create a new contact account, it quickly allows me to customize them alot further. Therefore, i was curious if there was any way to transfer my contacts on my sim card>my phone in a fashion that the phone will accept them.
I'm sure i'll think of more questions(these are just the ones that I havent been able to answer after days of searching :-D)
Thank you so much in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi,
the speed of the HTC Wizard is very slow. That was my problem too.
for question no. 2:
Moving the apps to the card will result in more free space on the phone, OK, but running the apps from the card will also result in low speed, because the card is slower than the main memory. So I think you won't get more speed by this.
Try to overclock the device with OmapClock. My device works like a charm with 264 MHz (original was 180 MHz).
Use a tool like FreeUp RAM, which is part of the SK-Tools-package.
Running OmapClock and freeing up the RAM from time to time brings significantly much more speed. There is almost no waiting time if you click on an icon. You can even run Skype with OmapClock (many other users do so).
HTH

I have seen tidbits about overclocking through my endless searches the last few days. I've always heard that you have to be careful if you overclock a device, such as a phone. Has anyone had any known issues with the overclocking? Are there risks in having the phone run at that speed all the time?

The Wizard isn't slow. Install a Qtek rom without branding, and it will be much faster.

even the sales associate at tmobile seemed to think it was slow. Upgrading to a different ROM sounds ok, but i'm trying to keep everything via tmobile. thaks for the tip though.

Hi,
Im looking to get the Tmobile USA MDA, but after reading posts like this Im alittle afraid.
I need to run TOMTOM on this device and thinking that this might bring the device to a halt. Now Im starting to think that maybe I should get the 6700. Please let me know what you found out about making MDA faster. Thank you.

TazMan1688 said:
I have seen tidbits about overclocking through my endless searches the last few days. I've always heard that you have to be careful if you overclock a device, such as a phone. Has anyone had any known issues with the overclocking? Are there risks in having the phone run at that speed all the time?
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There have been long discussion about what is safe with the Wizard on this forum.
See, for example, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40284
Also, the SmartsKey app automates startup of OMapClock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060
(It has a number of other uses as well.
Hope this helps.

TazMan1688 said:
My girlfriend has a sidekick, and I LOVE the feature of being able to set phone profiles for specific times of the day. Especially during school, it'll go silent, and the second we are out, its back on normal. I have downloaded PZP to try and fix this loss of luxury. However, I personally don't find the program to be very consistent. Sometimes, it seems as if say my "school" profile is fully functioning, while other times, it really doesnt. Call me crazy, but I have taken a shot in the dark and ventured to say that if one touches the volume button on the phone while the phone is on a specific profile...it will throw it out of its cycle. If anyone has some hints/comments/suggestions of their own on this program or other favorites...I would love to hear from you.
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There is a known problem with backlighting. See http://zendrui.free.fr/PZPForum/viewtopic.php?t=197
Also, check to see what events PZP is handling for profile-switching. For example, if you have calendar-based or time-based rules, they may switch your profile without you doing anything. Go to Settings, Control to see what you Switches you allow. Or check Time and Calendar for your profiles under the Configuration option.

As much as i'm sure overclocking the device may help, especially in my case. I'm just not sure if its worth the risk. Kind of hard to explain to Tmobile why the phone decided to overheat. Seems overly risky to make such an expensive device, run at higher speeds than its DESIGNED to do. But i'm still not sure, it almost DOES seem worth it...decisions, decisions...
Yes, Thank you for clarifying that...I mostly meant, the inconsistency of PZP with the timing of profiles. It seems as if the program will "switch" to the correct profile, but i don't always see a change in the operation of the device itself. Ex: I have it set to go to school mode at 7:30am, this past week(since its spring break, i've noticed that my incoming calls all had the normal ring volume, as well as system tones, etc...
Although it "says" ""School"" i don't really know if its truely in that mode?!
On this note, i have a question about setting the times(which is what i really want to accomplish). My phone goes to LOUD around 5:30am, School at 7:30 am, Normal at 1:55pm, and Quiet at 4pm.
Nooow, do i have to put two times in the school profile such as 7:30 am-1:54(5)???? so that it has an entire time interval...or can i just tell it when to start, and the next profile will automatically kick in and stop the previous.
Also, does putting the phone in standby or shutting it down have any effect on the profile??
I'm sorry in advance if i'm asking very basic questions, i've just been searching for a long period of time, and i usually can't find a specific answer to my question. So I decided I would spend the time to actually discuss MY problem, with hope someone can help. Again, sorry for any inconvienence or redudant questions.

TazMan1688 said:
As much as i'm sure overclocking the device may help, especially in my case. I'm just not sure if its worth the risk. Kind of hard to explain to Tmobile why the phone decided to overheat.
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I have a german T-Mobile MDA Vario (= HTC Wizard) and I'm overclocking it permanently with OmapClock and SmartSKey. There is no overheating as far as I can say/feel. I can speed up to 264 MHz (original = 180 MHz). If I try more, the device softresets itself without any damage or loss of data. It's a kind of security mechanism. Of course, battery life is a little bit shorter when overclocking it. But I'm sure, slightly overclocking doesn't damage the device! Maybe the lifetime of the device will be a bit shorter, lets say 6 months in 5 years, but you won't realize that, because you won't be using your device in 5 years. You will sure own some other phone when the CPU dies. Together with the tool "FreeUp RAM" (comes with SKTools), I can reach a comfortable speed for everyday use. But never forget: The Wizard IS quite slow, compared with other devices. You can find smart workarounds for that, but don't close your eyes on that fact.
For running any GPS navigation tools I would consider buying not a Wizard, but a much faster device, if you would ask me. I'm using my Wizard only for addresses (~ 700 items), calendar (~ 1200 items) etc., and without overclocking and using a program like Pocket Informant 2005, that would be an annoying, maybe impossible thing. At the beginning, I had to wait almost 10-15 seconds until e.g. the month overview was created. Switch to the following month - wait again. Choose a specific day - wait again. Oh my god! That needed more patience than I had.

Are you running a basic install without all the phone networks customisation bloat?
you can do this by hard resetting (you will loose data doing this) and then doing a softreset when the customisation dialogue pops up after setting time zone etc.
this will speed things up over an install with tmobiles bloatware. I run tomtom and my device is in general as reponsive as the magician it replaces.
good luck with your phone
R

So guys based on your opinions and experience is it worth for me to get the MDA or should I go with a different carrier and a XV/PPC-6700 ?

Hi yozh,
I don't know the 6700-device at all. Maybe we don't have it here in good old Germany, or maybe under a differnt name. Does it have a bigger display (better for navigation)? Does it have a faster CPU? Then take that one! In my eyes I would never like to use the Wizard for navigation. It's only a better phone, not more, not less. For all other purposes I would buy a bigger machine. I do not want to talk bad about my own device, I have bought it and I use it and it's OK for the everyday things I do with it. It has nothing to do with "I'm proud of my device", like some people seem to be here. It's a phone, man, not a Ferrari or a Rolex. You would tell yourself lies, if you would call the Wizard a powerful device. I had a Palm Tungsten T5 before, and THIS is a powerful device. 2600 items in the calendar (true!), and the reaction time was half a second if you tap on the screen! You can go and have a coffee if you do that on a Wizard.
Just think about it. If you buy a Wizard, try it for a day and then write to me what you think about that phone.
Mh. My english should be better, I know.
Just my 2 Cents!

Hi well the 6700 is the apache I belive and the CPU is 416mhz but its not a "dual core" everything else screen adn such is pretty much the same. Thanks for the reply

SO any one on this forums can recoment apache over MDA ?

yozh said:
Hi,
Im looking to get the Tmobile USA MDA, but after reading posts like this Im alittle afraid.
I need to run TOMTOM on this device and thinking that this might bring the device to a halt. Now Im starting to think that maybe I should get the 6700. Please let me know what you found out about making MDA faster. Thank you.
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See my posts on http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48448 regarding processor speeds and TomTom.

Wow really TOMTOM runs better on the MDA then on a 400mhz DELL ? Then Im set defenatly getting the MDA, I like GSM network provide3rs better anyway and plus there are so much choices with the phones. I wish I was able to aford the JASJAS that looks really good.

Also don't forget that when you 'close' an appliation it does not really close, it just goes in to background, thus slowing the system down.
Check out your running processes and close all the ones that are not needed or load an app that really closed things.

TazMan1688 said:
1. The MDA came with the default Tmobile theme which works fine in portrait & in landscape, as well as the default blue Windows theme.
However, I have tried to install multiple themes(including some from microsoft themeselves) and i have one annoying error! Whenever I use an "installed" theme, the portrait screen looks fine, but when I open the keyboard...there are two large greyish/white gaps on the side of the theme.
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Themes built for portrait screens look wrong in landscape view. Easy solution: build a theme that works in landscape view. The Guava Bubbles theme works fine in both because the background image is larger than portrait size.
TazMan1688 said:
4. My girlfriend has a sidekick, and I LOVE the feature of being able to set phone profiles for specific times of the day. Especially during school, it'll go silent, and the second we are out, its back on normal. I have downloaded PZP to try and fix this loss of luxury. However, I personally don't find the program to be very consistent. Sometimes, it seems as if say my "school" profile is fully functioning, while other times, it really doesnt. Call me crazy, but I have taken a shot in the dark and ventured to say that if one touches the volume button on the phone while the phone is on a specific profile...it will throw it out of its cycle. If anyone has some hints/comments/suggestions of their own on this program or other favorites...I would love to hear from you.
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I use PPC-Profiles-Pro, but you can't slave this to a time. Besides, I'd rather just put it on Silent mode by holding the connection manager button for three seconds (top left side button). Otherwise I use PPC Profiles to switch from Work (BT) to Home (Wifi, no BT) to Sleep (No Wifi, no BT, no email alerts or reminders, just ringer). Walking into a theater, I just go to silent mode.

bilbo_28 said:
Also don't forget that when you 'close' an appliation it does not really close, it just goes in to background, thus slowing the system down.
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I know. I'm using MagicButton. And OmapClock with SmartSKey. And FreeUp RAM. In deed, I do almost EVERYTHING to make my device run faster.

Loosing the will to live!

Hi Guys
Been having the usual "Turn on" problem with my TyTN since having it, you know, very occasionaly - maybe once a week - you try to turn it from the button on the side and it wont. No matter what you do it stays off and you have to soft-reset.
Well, over the past few weeks its been getting MUCH worse. Im now resorting to rebooting the phone maybe 8 or 9 times a day! I have tried various diferent ROMS and the same issue keeps occuring. I've also checked the ROMS threads to see if anyone else has had this problem as severe as me and they haven't.
I REALLY like my TyTN and don't want to be forced into buying a new phone with the Ultimates just down the roads.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Current build (remember, tried with a few diferent ROMS):
Crossbow Prof
CE OS 5.2.1236 (build 17741.0.2.1) = LVSW build
ROM: 3.30.0.1
Date: 17/4/07
Radio:1.41.00.10
Proto: 32.74.7020.18H

Monty Burns said:
Hi Guys
Been having the usual "Turn on" problem with my TyTN since having it, you know, very occasionaly - maybe once a week - you try to turn it from the button on the side and it wont. No matter what you do it stays off and you have to soft-reset.
Well, over the past few weeks its been getting MUCH worse. Im now resorting to rebooting the phone maybe 8 or 9 times a day! I have tried various diferent ROMS and the same issue keeps occuring. I've also checked the ROMS threads to see if anyone else has had this problem as severe as me and they haven't.
I REALLY like my TyTN and don't want to be forced into buying a new phone with the Ultimates just down the roads.
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Current build (remember, tried with a few diferent ROMS):
Crossbow Prof
CE OS 5.2.1236 (build 17741.0.2.1) = LVSW build
ROM: 3.30.0.1
Date: 17/4/07
Radio:1.41.00.10
Proto: 32.74.7020.18H
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The problem is you have told us nothing about what is running whether you leave it to sleep by itself what's on the today plugins whether you have active sync turned off (ie set to manual) etc etc etc and which of the freezing fixes you have tried. Whether your plugins are on sd card whether it freezes with sd card not inserted etc etc.
Mike

right o' ... get your laughing gear round this
I let it "sleep" itself.
Im running:
Activesync (Exchange push mail - no pattern discovered with regards to receiving new emails)
SPB Weather (Today plugin)
Everything else is standard.
Connecting over 3g/HSDPA
There are other apps installed but these are always "closed" after being used. All apps are installed to the phone memory and not SD card - i've never tried without the card, guess I will try this now! Although, if this is the problem, how do I get around it???? I need my card.

Monty Burns said:
right o' ... get your laughing gear round this
I let it "sleep" itself.
Im running:
Activesync (Exchange push mail - no pattern discovered with regards to receiving new emails)
SPB Weather (Today plugin)
Everything else is standard.
Connecting over 3g/HSDPA
There are other apps installed but these are always "closed" after being used. All apps are installed to the phone memory and not SD card - i've never tried without the card, guess I will try this now! Although, if this is the problem, how do I get around it???? I need my card.
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Well I can see why you kept those things secret. If someone asked me to compile a list of things more or less guaranteed to cause freezing and refusal to turn on, I think I'd give 'em a link to your setup!!
If you must have push mail (that requires active sync to be active) and weather applications then you will likely continue to have problems.
You may be able to reduce the number of them by NOT allowing device to sleep by itself. I have mine set to never sleep. However I do always use the on/off button when finished.
It's fine to have applications that require connection to internet and today plugins on main memory BUT others should be on SD card. The reason is that running low on main memory (and not even that low!) can cause freezing.
PIE can rack up loads of storage memory - can move storage to card.
Regularly run a third party clean out application.
Mike
PS. resisted the urge to get my laughing gear out. Think I was in shock actually. You could consider writing a "how not to setup your Hermes" guide.

mikechannon said:
Well I can see why you kept those things secret. If someone asked me to compile a list of things more or less guaranteed to cause freezing and refusal to turn on, I think I'd give 'em a link to your setup!!
If you must have push mail (that requires active sync to be active) and weather applications then you will likely continue to have problems.
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Why would these apps cause it to lock up? One comes with the operating system and one connects to the net once a day. Surley Outlook can't be that unstable as to cause lockups on average every two hours. I doubt SPB Weather is that unstable as well!
Yes, I must have push email. Why waste battery power polling every thirty minutes or so with pull email?
The memory card is going back in. I took it out, went to Sainsburys and BAM its locked again
I will now try the "no auto sleep" thing and see how that goes so thanks for that suggestion.

i had problems like these with my Tytn and eventually upgraded to WM6 (Black 2.5). It really made a difference. Much faster, never freezes and battery life is better.
Severe fix I know but worth considering

mikechannon said:
.....You may be able to reduce the number of them by NOT allowing device to sleep by itself. I have mine set to never sleep. However I do always use the on/off button when finished. .......
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TOTALLY agree with you there Mike. I was having some real issues with the "coma" effect once the device has automatically gone into sleep mode, this wa admittedly on the original HTC ROM, and was caused by pocketzenphone however since I have (without fail) set the device to NEVER switch off automatically and have got into the good habit of using the on/off button liberally.

warmkiwi99 said:
i had problems like these with my Tytn and eventually upgraded to WM6 (Black 2.5). It really made a difference. Much faster, never freezes and battery life is better.
Severe fix I know but worth considering
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See my orginial post Crossbow
It has! Sadly though it was still "sleeping".
However, i have taken it out of auto sleep and put it to manual, guess what .... been a couple of hours now and NO lockup! Yay!

Monty Burns said:
Why would these apps cause it to lock up? One comes with the operating system and one connects to the net once a day. Surley Outlook can't be that unstable as to cause lockups on average every two hours. I doubt SPB Weather is that unstable as well!
Yes, I must have push email. Why waste battery power polling every thirty minutes or so with pull email?
The memory card is going back in. I took it out, went to Sainsburys and BAM its locked again
I will now try the "no auto sleep" thing and see how that goes so thanks for that suggestion.
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Even official applications are not immune from problems. The Hermes perhaps for some configurational reasons (though it's not just Hermes)does not like running active sync from sleep mode and it does not like running other applications that require syncing (eg. weather type ones).
Active Sync is not a particularly stable app and combine this with the Hermes weakness when being allowed to sleep by itself and you end up with a lock-up. (I have seen some explanations for this but only guess work and theories)
Many people have set their devices up to run active sync in manual mode only and this does help to reduce freezing. Of course you cannot do this with push mail enabled. (It might be possible to run some script or a scheduler programme to start and stop Active sync at set times - though the complexities here are as likely to cause a freeze as anything else!!
I am pleased your SD card seems not to be the cause - it can be for some.
I see you are possibly getting some benefit from a manual shut down rather than auto sleep
You may find the odd other idea on my site - freezing/lockups:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com
There is a thread here somewhere but i'd need to search for the thread.
You could also try doing without the weather app for a test. However you may not see a difference as active sync is already running for the mail.
Mike

Monty Burns said:
See my orginial post Crossbow
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Sorry, didn't notice that......

Hi Mike
Turning off the auto sleep thingy has worked a treat. I'm down to one reboot a day now and that has been related to t-mobiles 3g network failure collapse me thinks
So this tip alone is worth its weight in gold!
SPB Weather is running and so is Activesync/push email.
Also now added today plugins:
RhinoStats (CPU/memory monitor - realtime)
RhinoLaunch (custom program launcher)
All seems pukka and "coma" free

Good news, pleased things have improved.
Of course I suppose we could all agree auto sleep should not cause the device to go into a "coma", but still, I've got used to just using the on/off button. Curiously this has improved my battery life as I turn off as soon as I finish, rather than waiting for it to turn itself off (which it won't anyway as I disabled that mode).
Mike

Monty Burns said:
right o' ... get your laughing gear round this
I let it "sleep" itself.
Im running:
Activesync (Exchange push mail - no pattern discovered with regards to receiving new emails)
SPB Weather (Today plugin)
Everything else is standard.
Connecting over 3g/HSDPA
There are other apps installed but these are always "closed" after being used. All apps are installed to the phone memory and not SD card - i've never tried without the card, guess I will try this now! Although, if this is the problem, how do I get around it???? I need my card.
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I'll share my experience so that maybe it will help. I use WM6 on my 8525 and have found the "unable to wake" problem to be related to my SPB Mobile Shell. When I have the phone set to display SPB Mobile Shell's "Now Screen" upon wakeup, it quite often will not wake. But if I manually put the phone to "sleep" mode, then it will always pop alive fine. Disabling the Now Screen all together leaves me no problem. My guess is maybe it's an SPB issue. So maybe SPB Weather is causing it. I used to use SPB Weather before Mobile Shell, but since Shell has weather built in, I don't need SBP Weather any longer.
Hope this helps diagnose the problem a bit. For the record, I never had a wakeup problem with WM5.

Since going to black 2.5 and then 3.0 I have not had any of the sleep issues.
I run SPB Weather which is set to update every 5 hours, I run activesync to the exchange server which checks emails every 2 hours. My phone auto-offs after 3 minutes.
I did have AS set to When it arrives - but found this to be bad for battery and also stability. Every ten minutes was fine when I needed more urgency. All programs are installed to the phone, exept pie cache and outlook attachments which are on the card. I have not done any special tricks to avoid any sleep/card problems.

This thing hangs more than a....well something that hangs about 4 or 5 times a day...

Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!

What did you do ? Any pattern ?

blackb1ade said:
Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!
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Not much info there, my pictures hang up... on the wall everyday.
What are you doing? What have you been doing? Is it due to memory being full (as apps aren't closing)

Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?

You must have a duff unit!
Well mine has been completely spot on!
Maybe its something you have installed causing issues? Try uninstalling things one by one to see if that rectifies any problems you may have.

NSAgent said:
Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?
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"Hangs" means "crashes" or, more precisely "becomes completely and permanently unresponsive to anything less than a soft reset".

Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....

blackb1ade said:
Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....
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I really would consider that you may have a duff unit. There are loads of peoeple on here who advise the screen is too responsive! Plus the lack of memory sounds like the biggest issue.
When you navigate to the windows folder, do you actually let it load or do you just leave it? Reason I ask is that there are thousands of files in there and it does take a while to read them. It did on my HD anyway.
Seems like when reg edits have been done to get task manager working how we are all used to it, should be working better.
Oh, software is made for resistive screens so some presses wont register as the software is more than likely looking for a more presice tap rather than a finer splodged over the actual area its looking for a response in. Should be fine later down the line when more things are brought to capacitive screens.
Hope it all works out for ya

That is true - the menus are a little small for finger use - so it will be a case of waiting I guess.
I removed all the progs that I'd installed already (includng 'microsoft my phone' - forgot about that one)
Screen is very responsive most of the time - but then sometimes it just seems to space out- almost like you catch it off guard - not what I'd expect frankly
It does eventually load the windows folder in explorer - but it takes about 2 1/2 mins to do so - no other folder does that to it, nor any other action - and it wasn't doing that up until yesterday
Hard reset next [if i can figure out how...] - if that doesn't yield significant improvement then it's back to TCR for an exchange (provided some more units have turned up by now!!)
Cheers though

Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.

owz206 said:
Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.
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+1 ...... Mine loads in a split second

My phone doesnt hangs, but my /windows folder takes about 1/2 minutes in load.

No problems here either. One recommendation though for those with slow file list loading: try to enable and up the caches (which are stock) with Advanced Config. You will gain some more speed!

Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.

blackb1ade said:
Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.
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Sounds like Kinomaplay is searching and associating with files in the background. I think it may be set to do that by default but you can tell it not to in the settings - only trouble is you may have to wait for it to do it's thing as not sure if you can interrupt it. I got so fed up with the programme on the HD I trashed it - lovely interface though

Strange thing with Windows folder loading, with the "normal" Explorer it takes my device a very long time too (first few times did a soft reset because i thought it was hung also), but with Total Commander explorer the Windows folder is there instantly, sounds like Explorer runs into something, just have to figure out what though.
Crazy . . . . . . . . . . .

Mine takes just a split second to load windows folder!
But it crashes 2 - 3 times a day! Without doing nothing! When i try to unlock it, screen wont go on! Battery off, here we go again! And i got the no sound problem.. After 3-5 calls, i car hear what others are saying but they cant hear a word from me!! This is happening all time.. (tested all this even with stock rom and no apps installed or any tweak etc..)
I read here in the forums that other people have similar problems..And in italy the distribution stopped because of defected rom??
Some say it heppened in france too.. (allthough i live in greece, i got mine sent from france, expansys headquarters..)
So maybe its roms problem? Or just me having a possible defected device..?
Any of you with freezing problems etc..??

Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...

drfroz said:
Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...
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I noticed that the hangs have something to do with the charging of the phone,no matter if its via usb or power pluged. Thanks for confirming though.. This is MAJOR issue for me..You think that your phone is ok in your pockets but it is shut down!!
About the sound problem i mentioned before?

Knock on wood my HD2 is rocksolid for now! Everything is fast and stable!

TG01 whats BUGGIN U>windows 6.5 for rom development!!

hi, all just thought i would start a thread asking people what bugs they notice on their windows mobile 6.5 TG01 devices.
I will start of with main problems
1. Radio stack- call quality eratic
2. In call volume low
3. Speaker volume low ringtones= noticed sms tone lower than call ringtone
strange
4. 20% battery restriction come on toshiba were not 2 year olds
5. screen switching of seconds into call>hitting power button to resume
screen
and end call>what the f****k!!!!
6. ringtones on sd card out of folder>can we select them when IN a sd
ringtone folder>i thought they fixed this years ago!!
7. GPS apparently disconnecting after 10-20mins
8. rom in general unstable
any other bugs guys then just get listing

serialkillazzs said:
hi, all just thought i would start a thread asking people what bugs they notice on their windows mobile 6.5 TG01 devices.
I will start of with main problems
1. Radio stack- call quality eratic
2. In call volume low
3. Speaker volume low ringtones= noticed sms tone lower than call ringtone
strange
4. 20% battery restriction come on toshiba were not 2 year olds
5. screen switching of seconds into call>hitting power button to resume
screen
and end call>what the f****k!!!!
6. ringtones on sd card out of folder>can we select them when IN a sd
ringtone folder>i thought they fixed this years ago!!
7. GPS apparently disconnecting after 10-20mins
8. rom in general unstable
any other bugs guys then just get listing
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Don't forget we need to find a unlocking metod.
I have my still locked because if I unlock by code. There no more interest in ulocking..
But about other bugs I don't know realy. My TG01 work purfect may be has some little bug who we can solve with time. General I think is just a dizain of the software.

bojan6 said:
Don't forget we need to find a unlocking metod.
I have my still locked because if I unlock by code. There no more interest in ulocking..
But about other bugs I don't know realy. My TG01 work purfect may be has some little bug who we can solve with time. General I think is just a dizain of the software.
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if you are looking phone sim unlocked then check out TG01 forum on modaco for details. £10 to unlock.
if you are waiting for sim unlocking software then i think you are in for a long wait!!
another bug
can we have an accurate battery life indicator,
odd that you can restart device and get extra 10% battery life. which is quite fun when the rom locks you out at 20% battery life on wifi
also quite odd that the 20% battery lock suspends wifi/camera, BUT not music and videos. i would have thought having the screen on with backlight video on, and speaker running would drain battery more. what idiot thought of that!!

for
2 and 3 try srswow 3 cab over at modaco
4. makes me want to scream
5. you just have to double tap screen to activate screen a little message comes up and tells you (but you would have phone on your ear when message comes up) stupid toshiba.
6. not that i know of i just edit them in mp3 prog and put them in tone folder
again annoying but its that or there stupid tones
8. hopefully the cooked rom happens
mine are
10. phone randomly turning of
11. camera takes ages to start
12. "forgets" wep key all the time
i wont be getting a toshiba again il get the eventual hd3 when contract runs out in 1.6 years.

useyourfist said:
for
2 and 3 try srswow 3 cab over at modaco
4. makes me want to scream
5. you just have to double tap screen to activate screen a little message comes up and tells you (but you would have phone on your ear when message comes up) stupid toshiba.
6. not that i know of i just edit them in mp3 prog and put them in tone folder
again annoying but its that or there stupid tones
8. hopefully the cooked rom happens
mine are
10. phone randomly turning of
11. camera takes ages to start
12. "forgets" wep key all the time
i wont be getting a toshiba again il get the eventual hd3 when contract runs out in 1.6 years.
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tried those srs wow cabs and all are generally unstable!!
camera one is a bug tho

9.when taking video it seems very dark, light level needs a boost, aperature or somethin
proper video settings would work well, we have no white balance, colour etc nothing!!

serialkillazzs said:
if you are looking phone sim unlocked then check out TG01 forum on modaco for details. £10 to unlock.
if you are waiting for sim unlocking software then i think you are in for a long wait!!
another bug
can we have an accurate battery life indicator,
odd that you can restart device and get extra 10% battery life. which is quite fun when the rom locks you out at 20% battery life on wifi
also quite odd that the 20% battery lock suspends wifi/camera, BUT not music and videos. i would have thought having the screen on with backlight video on, and speaker running would drain battery more. what idiot thought of that!!
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I don't wait any softwre just doing by my self

serialkillazzs said:
hi, all just thought i would start a thread asking people what bugs they notice on their windows mobile 6.5 TG01 devices.
I will start of with main problems
1. Radio stack- call quality eratic
2. In call volume low
3. Speaker volume low ringtones= noticed sms tone lower than call ringtone
strange
4. 20% battery restriction come on toshiba were not 2 year olds
5. screen switching of seconds into call>hitting power button to resume
screen
and end call>what the f****k!!!!
6. ringtones on sd card out of folder>can we select them when IN a sd
ringtone folder>i thought they fixed this years ago!!
7. GPS apparently disconnecting after 10-20mins
8. rom in general unstable
any other bugs guys then just get listing
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Are you lookign for bugs that we all have? Or just wanting to compare people's experiences?
1 - totally - if nothing else can be fixed... fix this
2 & 3 - 'fixed' by WOW SRS HD ?? (certainly my volumes are acceptable, i did change somethign in the reg tho...)
4 - yeah & how does the BT stay on past the 20% (if it was already in operation) but the wifi doesn't
5 - this really should be turn off-able.. prob a coincidence, but when the screen switches off the call qual seems to drop..
6 - never tried this
7 - nor this (i use g maps for on the fly navigation)
8 - mine's ok....
9 - never had this... had some probs coming off standby b4 i installed SRS HD properly..
10 - 2 seconds for me - is that slow??
11 - not had this on any of the 3 wlan i connect too..
12 - never used video
13 - totally my work phone is hd2 & the camera on that is amazing, TG camera is embrassing
can i add
14 - i want to reject a call with sms msg
15 - i want to be rid all the orange ****e that the phone is stuck with, orange plus & boot up screen etc
16 - i want a sys tray icon for everything, don't share 2 'G' symbols between GPS/2G/3G/HSDPA/GPRS etc
17 - strange bug, my file browser (ie change today screen click "browse" NOT file explorer) can't see my mem card
18 - win logo some times displayed on lock screen, sometimes not - tapping it does nothing !!
i'm sure i can think of more...
cheers
Adam

- random self-restart/reboot are what piss me the most off (specially when you are making a call!).

jeams said:
- random self-restart/reboot are what piss me the most off (specially when you are making a call!).
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I had many of them when I was trying HTC sense (2.1 or 2.5), now with the default WM6.5 screen I do not get any more random reboots.

i use spb mobile shell...

buggin issue
I've noticed my tg01 is so much more stable since I turned of the auto orientation, it used to freeze 3 to 5 times a day, now I hav'nt had to soft reset it for weeks.
I am looking forward to see what development the XDA people can do to get this amazing piece of hardware running smooth, fast & sweet.

Hi
Your probleme at point 10 (phone randomly turning of) it's caused by SRS_WOW( this is still not a stable and compatible verzion for our TG01) . You must uninstall it and no more randomly turning off happends. I had that probleme too.

sorry but i don't have srs_wow and my tg01 (all of them actualy : waranty returns) had this shut down/reboot problems regardless the os (i.e wm6.1 or wm6.5) and regardless softwares installed on it.

Must say I had a lot of problems with SRS WOW being installed or which I lead to believe was the problem. My phone would restart itself every so often but it also didn't like going to sleep it just crashed and stayed in that state until you soft reset it.
I did a hard reset and installed the software that I found useful to myself, didn't install anything like the graphic driver update or SRS WOW and its working flawlessly apart from the call quality issues.
In regards to the above post if you've had a few tg01's and they are all randomly reseting its not a hardware fault with the phone, I'm sure it'll be software which is causing these problems.
I think the first and foremost problem that'll hopefully be fixed by the rom devs is the call quality issues since after all that's why people have a phone, to make phone calls.

Finger Keyboard from xda: after some time keyboard doesnt pop up (especially if phone was standby for a while), switching to other keyboard not possible -> soft reset
Screen Bug: unlock screen in landscape mode bugs, after sliding nothing happens, only if i hit the area where ok button would be..
->not that bad cause i use S2u2
Standby Bug: pressing button to switch on again, screen only blinks for short time..need several tries to get the screen permanently on,to slide..
storage bug: using some programs except the ram of tg01 bugging, than hitting standby button short-- whoops phone goes off and restarts..
bugmode #2: if i take battery out because of extreme bugging after soft reset, sometimes restarts and then there is only a text saying "ok", i can't touch and need to restart again..

i noticed a bug with toshibas keyboard
turning caps look on the delete button doesnt work!!
maybe a hard reset might fix this, but im not willing to reset again

has cook got a test device or does he not want to unlock it now!

Too much bug for this phone :
- Poor memory management, the unit must be reset periodically to free memory or use cleanram utility.
- The device have many difficulties to switch the band from HPDSA to GSM when network is poor. I must regulary change the band manually to keep data use.
- Bad management of motion sensor and light sensor.
- Call volume is sometimes low my contact don't heard me
Some improvement would be apreciated

voluntary e
yeah low cal volume a pain.just as well we have sms texts

Report issues that you may experience using wp7 (share your problems ) for HD2

I created this thread to list all peoblems on HD2 that may face you to be reported for the developers (share your problems )
list of problems you may suffer from (not all users have all problems in the list ):
1. buttons backlight doesn't work
2. multitouch is buggy and stops working allot (when zoooming )
3. no autofocus in camera , and pictures are so bad
4. big noise in videorecording and very noisy voice
6. loud speaker is very loud
7.wifi mac address will change if you reboot the phone
8. charging problem when the device is off (magldr issue )
9.Support For 1024LEO full Capacity (currently limited to 512)
10. market takes allot of time to verify purchase and download (wp7 issue or just us ? )
11. battery meter not accurate at all, and very high battery usage
12. some htc applicaions doesn't work (audio booster ) works ut make no change
13. flash on camera and green tint
14. light sensor in extreme dark conditions (corrupted as in android ) needs testing not sure
15. rebooring problems
16.FM radio is very loud even with the volume on the minimum setting.
17. sync contacts names problems (may be wp7 )
18. service provider settings (like charge , pay pill ) in windows 6.5 and android doesn't exist (wp7 problem , may be ) .
19. digital compass , is it working or not and how to test it
20.mms, can't change apn for mms
21.No headset icon when headset is bluged
22.push tiles update issue
23.Only the left headset works when make call.
24. mic doesn't work when headset is bluged in
25. Phone remains "locked" after MS activation, no amount of unlocking works. *mod edit - try method 2 : here *
Notes:
A. some issues are windows phone 7 related that we should wait for microsoft to fix them see the list here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836373
B. I will request the next rom update to be an hd7 reg edited as default , so that we will only need to use the activation code without cracking the phones security with (chevron wp7.exe ) as with the next microsoft ypdate we will not be able to use it any more.
C. All problems are being repeated now , i think the list above includes it all ,one more day and i will be reporting all these issues on the chinees forum , or to cotulla ,
A very big problem don't let your phone empty its charge as it can't be charged while it is off and it will die unless you find a way to charge it externally​

I hope that cotulla this repaired
Speciall the camera

wifi problem, phone don't open the site but is connect to the router

WiFi problem - I can't see all WPA secured WiFi networks, I can find (and connect) my WiFi at home, but at work, HD2 doesn't see WiFi there...
Yesterday I answered the phone and the opposite side can't hear me (radio 2.15.., I don't know, just the last version)
Sometimes the phone is little bit laggy, I think, that the problem is in the SD card, when I used the phone w/o card (before hard-reset ofc), everything was faster

1. Speaker is very loud
2. Hope Market will be soon available for all.

I will be updating the list issue periodically and I might register to dft forum to report it all if he is not going to xda anymore

When i try to charge my battery with the phone completely off and the phone begins to charge but in a few minutes the led turns off and the phone does not turn on except for remove the battery.
battery charges only when phone is turned on. Does anyone has this issue?

Moonblood said:
When i try to charge my battery with the phone completely off and the phone begins to charge but in a few minutes the led turns off and the phone does not turn on except for remove the battery.
battery charges only when phone is turned on. Does anyone has this issue?
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It's a MagLDR issue

Moonblood said:
When i try to charge my battery with the phone completely off and the phone begins to charge but in a few minutes the led turns off and the phone does not turn on except for remove the battery.
battery charges only when phone is turned on. Does anyone has this issue?
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Known issue with Magldr.

Warning!
Installed win phone 7 on my HD2, and it formated my 16 gb memory card in a secured partition, all data was erased, and i could not format it using any windows tools, so the only solution for me was to "Hard" Format it using a free software called SDFormatter, it formated and brought back to life my microSD Card.
So people, back up your data before flashing.

So far one issue: it takes quite a lot of time to turn off the phone

Regarding the camera, using flash gives green tint. No other problems from the reported ones.

HannoSLM said:
Regarding the camera, using flash gives green tint. No other problems from the reported ones.
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how is multitouch with you allot of reports say it is corrupted

Battery
Moonblood said:
When i try to charge my battery with the phone completely off and the phone begins to charge but in a few minutes the led turns off and the phone does not turn on except for remove the battery.
battery charges only when phone is turned on. Does anyone has this issue?
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For me is the same, it came with the new magldr for WP7.

JanHavlicek said:
WiFi problem - I can't see all WPA secured WiFi networks, I can find (and connect) my WiFi at home, but at work, HD2 doesn't see WiFi there...
Yesterday I answered the phone and the opposite side can't hear me (radio 2.15.., I don't know, just the last version)
Sometimes the phone is little bit laggy, I think, that the problem is in the SD card, when I used the phone w/o card (before hard-reset ofc), everything was faster
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I had the same problem. I've noticed that the wlan channel from my wlan router was 13. I switched the channel to 11 and then WP7 find my wlan...
So, WP7 doesn't support wlan channels higher then 11...

wifi mac address will change if you reboot the phone.

The type isn't clear when you scroll down or up in the system menu, it takes a little bit time when the type is clear again.
The next problem for me is that I don't know how to set up wireless synchronization, I think I've done everything according to Microsoft pages, but it doesn't work for me.
And then I have the same problems like you, loud speakers, camera...

Well, after reading most of the posts here I guess I was lucky, WiFi and Mobile data connection worked for me, the phone was fast (faster than Android).
The whole WP7 seems to be 'airy' and not so heavy as Android, I liked the look of emails, large and clear fonts, easy to read and navigate. But on the whole, the system seems to be too closed off, not much customization is available.
I did manage to unlock it and install some 3rd party apps but soon the phone would give me a message that 'Microsoft has revoked' the particular program. Also the phone keeps locking itself over and over. I got tired of unlocking it every time I wanted to install a new app. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. Had to either reset the phone or PC many times in order for things to work.
Does anybody know a solution to this?
I could have asked MS to give me the 'key' so that live services could be used but was not sure I want to keep this OS on my phone. It may be similar to Vista issue, a nice looking OS but buggy. Somehow I have a feeling that a new and (much) improved WP7 is around the corner.
Couple of tips:
If you want to sync your contacts, calendar, etc., the easiest way is to go through Google. If you used an Android ROM before this should not be a problem. Back up all your contacts in Android by using your Google account, once you are in WP7 go to Settings - People - Gmail and sign in. It will automatically sync your contacts to the phone - painlessly. You can also choose not to have your Facebook contacts mixed with the phone's ones. Up to you.
If you want to revert back to WinMO 6.5 or Android:
- take out your SD card first
- turn off your phone and then hold the Vol Down key as you press and hold the Power button (get into Bootloader screen)
- flash the official ROM (3.14 RUU is recommended)
- use your photo camera to format your SD card (if you have a card holder, stick in, and then format)
- if you wish you can format your SD card again once you put it back into your phone and plug it into your PC
It worked for me. I am using my SD card again to run Android (flawlessly)

tlerner said:
Well, after reading most of the posts here I guess I was lucky, WiFi and Mobile data connection worked for me, the phone was fast (faster than Android).
The whole WP7 seems to be 'airy' and not so heavy as Android, I liked the look of emails, large and clear fonts, easy to read and navigate. But on the whole, the system seems to be too closed off, not much customization is available.
I did manage to unlock it and install some 3rd party apps but soon the phone would give me a message that 'Microsoft has revoked' the particular program. Also the phone keeps locking itself over and over. I got tired of unlocking it every time I wanted to install a new app. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. Had to either reset the phone or PC many times in order for things to work.
Does anybody know a solution to this?
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After unlock the phone, you have to use 2 softs :HTC Connection Setup and Tom WP7 Jailbreak in order to prevent from MS remote lock. Have you used it before?

some issue
My Leo restarts after about an one-two hours .
When I click the red phone, then again, Leo wake up after one minute , restart or doesn't wake up .
The second issue is when Leo is restarting , all information disappear - just like in hard reset .
It's not very stable and vast ;(