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ATT 8525 Tethered

PRoblem short and sweet:
1 laptop running win xp
1 desktop running vista home premium
ATT 8525 running wm6 and rom ver 3.62.502.2
radio 1.54.07.00
Both machines update daily for updates.
So i use my ATT 8525 to do internet sharing, laptop connects and works great. I can even do some bit torrent downloading but it is slow
the desktop machine running vista will connect but the the internet sharing application on the phone will show a message "waiting on network" and vista will disconnect. problem happens in no apparent time frame and happens with all applications.
THis has happened on ATT 3g network and Tmobiles edge network so it has to be a vista problem. I know this is not a vista forum but hoping someone knows what the problem might be.
I've done alot of goggling and found nothing on this.
Thanks for reading. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

hm.. if i understand this correctly, you are trying to get both machines to connect to the phone at the same time? that will not happen because the internet sharing is only designed to share 1 at a time. i believe there is some router software for windows mobile that can get your connection from the phone to a broadcasted wifi. you can then connect as many machines as your device can support to the "router" ran by the phone. the tilt should be able to handle 10 clients.
another way would be to share your connection that is shared with the mobile.
mobile <-> laptop <-> desktop
connect the mobile sharing to the laptop and let the laptop share the connection with the desktop and connect the desktop with the laptop, not the phone. this will add significant latency but who cares if you want to use 3g data, its always slow. i cant think of any other way you can do this but give the second one a try first. its probably the cheapest to set up.

No, i am not trying to use both computers at the same time. i was just saying that it works on the xp machine no problem, it's the vista machine that is not working correctly.

Connecting with Vista...
Curious can you sync with the Vista machine... I suggest trying this (I have the opposite setup as you but had a similar problem... Desktop-XP Laptop-Vista)...
Under connection settings, USB to PC - there is a box that says "Enable advanced network functionality" I have to check and uncheck this when switching between the two...
For me (maybe different for you) I have to have the box checked on my laptop (Vista) but UNCHECKED for my desktop (XP)... not sure if this is tied to the OS or the hardware, but give it a shot. But this allows me to both sync and use Internet Sharing accordingly.
Hope it helps.
Namaste

Well i have uncheck the ""Enable advanced network functionality" on the 8525 for my vista machine. So far I am staying connected even under heavy network load. We will just see how it goes.
Thanks KZIWarrior.
KZIWarrior said:
Curious can you sync with the Vista machine... I suggest trying this (I have the opposite setup as you but had a similar problem... Desktop-XP Laptop-Vista)...
Under connection settings, USB to PC - there is a box that says "Enable advanced network functionality" I have to check and uncheck this when switching between the two...
For me (maybe different for you) I have to have the box checked on my laptop (Vista) but UNCHECKED for my desktop (XP)... not sure if this is tied to the OS or the hardware, but give it a shot. But this allows me to both sync and use Internet Sharing accordingly.
Hope it helps.
Namaste
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Conneting WinMo to WinXP

Hi everybody,
I have Shift CDMA with Windows XP (it works perefect). But I can not to connect SnapVue part of the Shift with WinXP. When I go to Programs - Internet Sharing, and push Connect button, nothing happens on XP side (latest ActiveSync in installed), and on SnapVue side I have an message 'the remote party has ended the connection". Could anybody advice me? Thanks.

U used USBTool to connect the Windows side to the Snapvue side ?
Else it always says not connected

I can not run USBTool because I can not copy it to WinMo side.

Have you tried emailing to yourself and picking up that email on the WinMo side? Or go to http://tinyurl.com/5wwrpn (modaco.com) as suggested elsewhere on this site and he'll email it to you
It's easy when you know how!

The problem is I have no working radio on it (my shift is CDMA, and there is no such provider in Russia )

X1 and Internet Sharing on laptop - no drivers!

Hi,
I'm looking to use my X1 as an internet sharing device for my laptop on the go. However, I can't seem to get it to do it WITHOUT installing activesync.
So I've just plugged in my phone into my PC and it asks for a "Generic RNDIS". Do I have to install activesync to get my phone to interact with the laptop??
I just want to use it for internet sharing. I've read a lot about using bluetooth and stuff, but no solution for using just a plain USB.
Any help greatly appreciated!
THANKS

You will find internet sharing in programs folder. I does not require installation of anything (on Windows Vista).

have you tried wmwifirouter, its a great app

I use XP - and whenever I plug my phone in, it asks for the "generic RNDIS" driver
So 1) even if I switch on the Net Sharing on the phone, it does nothing.
2) Does wmwifirouter work even though it keeps asking me for the RNDIS???
No way to just import some essential drivers and then connect the phone the usual way??

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I use XP - and whenever I plug my phone in, it asks for the "generic RNDIS" driver
So 1) even if I switch on the Net Sharing on the phone, it does nothing.
2) Does wmwifirouter work even though it keeps asking me for the RNDIS???
No way to just import some essential drivers and then connect the phone the usual way??
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I believe you could import the drivers. If you know which drivers
At what time does the mentioned message show up? When you open internet sharing? Or already when you connect the phone?
WMWifirouter is very nice, but you have to buy it. It provides USB support. And it SHOULD not require an additional driver. However, I think a "generic RNDIS" driver is not something very exotic. I think the problem is your computer. Have you tried on another one?

if xp doesnt load the needed drivers automatically then i do believe you need to install activesync. is there a reason why you dont want to install activesync?

@Firefall: This "generic RNDIS" message comes up whenever I plug in my phone and it happens to every PC i have (3 different ones).
@c_legaspi: The reason is that I dont use activesync for anything on my laptop. Additionally, activesync allows my phone only 2 PC's to attach to. Otherwise it'll ask me to "delete" a connection with a previous PC, if you see what I mean.
BTW, anyone experience the problem where one needs activesync installed before USB-charging works?? Its the case for me strangely...

i dont know about charging with only activesync but i do know there is a setting that you can choose on whether to or not to charge when connected to the pc.

yeah, i know that setting. It definitely charges when its connected to activesync. But connected to just any PC, it wont do a thing.
In contrast, my previous S710 (vox) charged even if you connected it up to a carrot

this is offtopic a bit since you're using XP but on vista or Windows7 with the supported bluetooth profile for bluetooth PAN, i would just set the phone for internet connection sharing through 3G and then set my laptop to connect through bluetooth PAN and they work fine together. no other software needed. however you're limited to using the 3G/EDGE feature only, no wifi.
wmwifirouter is a better solution if you need to connect through wifi.
if your bluetooth on your laptop can connect through Dial-up Networking (DUN), then you'll need to find out the username, password, and phone number of your carrier (it goes something like wapuser1, wap, *99***1# for Rogers Canada) and set it up with your laptop. i've been doing this on my previous phones but it seems the X1 can only connect through bluetooth PAN which is easier to set up imo but it cannot automatically connect to the internet unlike DUN.

I think the point is that you need to start the internet sharing app and choose connect before you connect the USB cable. If you connect the cable at that time, the phone installs the right drivers (the computer recognises it as a different kind of device at this point).
I have not tried this on XP, only on Vista.
/Per

I'm not sure if this help any of you, but at the moment I'm using my phone to connect to internet. I follow the instruction on Xi manual http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/download/1/522/265/1224514276/X1__UG_1215_1000_2_EN.pdf page 31 "Using your phone as a Bluetooth™ modem".
I'm using window vista to connect my phone to pc via usb go to program internet sharing and the pc search for the driver installed and done I'm surfing

I am also trying to use the X1 as a modem without installing ActiveSync.
You can extract the RNDIS-Driver for XP from the ActiveSync-Setup:
1. uncompress setup.msi with 7zip, you get ActiveSync.cab and some other stuff
2. uncompress ActiveSync.cab with 7zip
3. now copy the files
- WceRndis.inf
- WceRndis.cat
- WceIS.inf
- wceis.cat
- usb8023Y.sys
- RNDISMPY.sys for later use
When prompted for NDIS-Driver go for the WceRndis.inf. On my XP it installed fine and gave me an additional network interface. After setting IP-Adresses for PC and phone i have a network-connection.
If you activate Internet Sharing on the phone then Windows asks again for an RNDIS-driver. This time, use the WceIS.inf. It installes the same files, i am not sure what the difference is.
Hope this helps!

Internet Sharing WM6.1: works on xp not vista

I've searched for related topics, but none are quite on point.
The following works for XP, but not for Vista, and I cannot figure out why.
(Note: I have the unlimited data plan, please use with caution if
you do not have the plan).
I am using AT&T as my carrier.
Using CeRegEditor, I performed the following on my Motorola Q 9h global device running WM 6.1, USB connector is connected from phone to PC:
1) changed HKLM\Comm\InternetSharing\Settings = "ForceCellConnection"
to "" and rebooted
2) In HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4...}\Connections,
changed ATT ICS and MEdia Net "ReadOnly" value from 1 to 0
On the phone itself, I then selected Start->Settings->Internet Sharing:
PC Connection = USB
Network Connection = MEdia Net
After issuing "Connect" on the phone, I have internet access when the phone
is connected via USB cable to the Windows XP PC, but not when connected via USB cable to the Vista PC.
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I have tried Bluetooth instead of USB when connecting to Vista, to no avail.
I have tried to obtain a new IP address for the USB connection, to no avail.
I disabled Norton firewall, to no avail.
I disabled the wireless card I installed last year when my internet
connection was DSL with a wireless access point, to no avail.
The phone connects ("syncs") fine with both PCs. On XP, the application is called 'Microsoft ActiveSync', and on Vista, 'Windows Mobile Device Center'.
I appreciate any advice you have.

It should work. I am using Vista SP1 and a WM 6.1 cooked HP 614c. Even managed to use the data connection in a virtual machine running on the same system. As soon as you hit ´Connect´ the sync session gets disconnection (status in Device Center is disconnected). Then Vista should detect a new connection called Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device. When running it for the first time, a driver will be installed. After that it detects a new network which you can setup using the Network Center. Did this happen in your case?

Hey duckyman, thanks for responding. I do see the 'Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device' on the Network and Sharing center, but the connection is listed as 'local'.
I did notice that once you hit 'connect' on the phone that the WM Device Center application on the PC lists the connection as no longer connected.
This is normal behavior, however, as the same thing happens on Win Xp with the corresponding 'Active Sync' application, and the XP connection works for me.
I think the problem is with Vista. I will try one more time with Bluetooth instead, I noticed that under 'Bluetooth Settinngs' on the phone that though I had enable bluetooth, I did not check the box "Allow other Bluetooth devices to see this phone".

Have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407563
It works perfect on Vista and win 7

Wmwifirouter USB to Wifi

Hi i have an HD2 and i want to use my internet connection from my pc with USB on the HD2 and this to Wifi...
So i put the usb cable on the hd2...set Active sync... now is can use the internet over my pc....
now i start wmwifirouter... click on usb to wifi
he is connected...but i cant get an internet acces over another device ill used over wifi....plz help... what i must set?
USB Mode Rndis and Active sync oder Rndis and Internet sharing?
On the PC what i must setting??? I have windows 7...
plz help!!

wmwifirouter is made for doing the other way around
unless your setting block this your phone will have the network connection of your pc when ever your phone is connected to activesync
if it don't then you need to make sure that your pc firewall or activesync don't block it
and that your phone is set to use my network connection rather then my isp

th problem is...if i set rndis my pc dont find the device via active sync...

i have the same problem.

Run wmwifirouter on your device and then connect it to your pc. you shouldn't need to run anything else.
hth
dave

Not working.i select rndis and first internet sharing...not working..second rndis active sync not working.

I have made a blog post about this issue and how to configure this mode properly. It is tricky when you don't have a guide. It works seamlessly and I have purchased wmwifirouter just to use this mode
Check out : http://adityasanghvi.com/windows-mobile-usb-to-wifi-wmwifirouter/