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I’ve done it, I’ve just ordered a T-Mobile MDA Vario, it should be here tomorrow, I cant wait!!!
I’m new to this forum and new to the world of Windows Mobile Devices, however I am far from a novice with SmartPhones.
I have been a big fan of SonyEricsson for many years and am currently looking for a new phone, but lately have lost my feel for SE and have discovered then marvel that is the Wizard!!! Wow, I’m so much going to have one of them!!!
I’ve been reading through this forum and well what can I say, what a fantastic resource, well done!
But what I really want to know is: software? I know the MDA Vario is T-Mobile branded, but what restrictions do they impose on you?
I’m a great believer that hardware developers know what they are doing and Phone Network Operators should leave the software well alone. I have read about unlocking the phone and moving Cab files etc, but what I would really want is to flash it with its “pure” software, is this possible and easy to do and how do I then set up my MMS and GPRS setting?
And am I correct in understanding what I’ve read, that, an out the box MDA Vario wont run ActiveSync?
Thanks in advance
Nick
Nick, an excellent choice of name, and an excellent choice of device
The units ROMs all seem to be largely the same, it's the extended ROM which is different.
T-Mobile's extended ROM installs a load of customisations such as wallpapers, GPRS settings, etc... Nothing seems to hinder you particularly badly , however if you don't want it, hard reset then do a soft reset before it installs the customisations. You then have a virgin machine
The only lock is a simlock, which means that you have to use a T-Mobile SIM with the device. Lokiwiz, a free unlocker, gets around this nicely with thanks to Machinagod, and all those whose work he improved
Oh, and activesync works fine with it, providing you haven't got any weird firewalls running
Welcome to the world of windows mobile
I have had my Vario for about a week and a half now.
If you used the P910 like I did, you will miss the jog wheel utility desperately. A brilliant device that was only let down by the lack of symbian (UIQ) development (it's harder to program.
I used to have a compaq 2210 and ran Pocketinformant. I've just reloaded it on my unit. It's brilliant, you give up a lot for the jog wheel but you welcome back the world of 'drag and drop' and 'double tap'.
If you use a PIM then Pocketinformant cannot be beaten.
Incidently make sure you load activesync 4.1 on your pc, providing you set your catergories in your outlook master list to the same as your device, syncing is superb.
good luck :lol:
I've just switched to Vodafone with an expansys contrct deal after four years with T-Mobile. They (T-Mobile) told me six weeks ago, they'd no idea what a Vario was, and had no information that they were going to get them even though Germany had announced them to the press. Expansys had the 9100 on Voda so off I went. The Vodafone "data" bundle which is SMS or MMS or GPRS out of the same pot is better for me than T-Mobile who would only offer web'n'walk *and* a separate SMS/MMS bundle :-(
Vodafone have been fine, but the SMS voicemail alerts that don't activate the little "tape" message waiting icon really annoys me... ;-)
Dox..
I have also gone from a P900 to XDA mini. Its a bit of a transition and can agree - the wheel on the P900 was a luxury I do miss but there are alot moe benefits
Now - just need to try and work out if I can change the whole ROM from the O2 one
Scott
Thanks for all the info fellas, cant wait for it to be delivered…
Excuse my ignorance, but, the ROM, is that the basic OS and the extender ROM is just the individual network customizations?
I will almost certainly, as a matter of principle, do the SIM unlock, but what is the purpose of the CID unlock?
And, if I do the Hard reset Soft reset trick how will I set up my GPRS and MMS?
Sorry about all the questions, but I’m very inquisitive.
Hopefully this will also be helping fellow novices.
Thanks again everyone.
You can enter the settings manually, which if you have them in front of you is fairly simple. If you need to know what they are (I've entered Vodafone's so often for people at work I can do them in my sleep, but don't know the T-Mobile ones), google is your friend. To simplify the whole thing, Raphael over at BeyondTheTech has the cab file with the settings in here for you to download and install as normal.
If you're not going to let the rest of the extended ROM install, put this on a memory card in case you want to run it again after a hard reset..
Dox.
I too like to have a fiddle (I had an original O2 XDA and this site was fantastic for upgrading to later version OS) but so far I can't see any compelling reason not to use the T-Mobile UK custo ROM as shipped.
The only addition I've made is MS Voice with the associated Reg change to allow use with BT headset.
Obviously if there is a superior ROM out there please let us know what is recommended?
Thanks
Nick, check out the wiki which has loads of info about roms, extended roms, radio roms and all that good stuff. Not a huge amount is specific to the Wizard yet, but the information applies all the same.
Has it arrived yet, or are you sitting by the front door like an eager puppy waiting for the postman or newspaper boy (or girl, thank you Stan)
Unfortunately I’m at work today and they would only deliver to my home address
AND they need a signature, so first thing tomorrow morning I’ll be stud outside my local Postal Depot waiting for it to open…..
Oh I hate waiting!!!
Welcome to Vario-ness !
Not coming from a previous PPC platform, you won't suffer the same way i did, by installing all the apps i used on my MDA Compadt some of which may not have been compatable with WM5. That ended up with me having a poor view on the Vario.
Fear not though, i've since seen the error of my ways, thanks to the fine folks on this forum...
I have an XDA II, and would like to update if there is a significant improvement.
I have read from the t-mobile site that the Vario does not have vibrate or voice dialling. Is this true, can Fonix be installed?
The most vital things I use are the outlook contacts, calender, isilo reader and avant go. I guess all standard apps that work on windows mobile 2003 work on 5 right?
How big is the screen?
Thanks for any help.
Well, that just goes to show that T-Mobile don't have a clue, really, doesn't it? I thought you must be mistaken, but sure enough it says that it doesn't support voice dial, and doesn't vibrate either.
It does. On both counts. The vibrate is a lot better than the xda2s in that it almost dislocates a hip when it goes off, and voice dialing works very well. With a quick registry hack, voice dialing works with bluetooth headsets too
Some have found the vario sluggish in comparison to the xda 2; i find it to be comparable to the blue angel (2s) that I had running wm2005 - bear in mind you're reading/writing all files from flash rather than RAM, and that explains the performance.
The screen is 2.8 inches diagonal.
Have any of you got vibrate working on M3000 (Orange)?
I have an M3000 from Orange Switzerland, and cannot get my vibrate to work at all.
Not to get 'off topic' but T-Mobile Czech republic were about to sell me a MDA Vario and at the last moment I noticed a sticker on the box saying it doesn't support character recognizer or transcriber .. anyone know if this FOR ME huge negative can be reversed so I can handwrite sms as MDA II let me .. (perfect solution for me)
kgary said:
Not to get 'off topic' but T-Mobile Czech republic were about to sell me a MDA Vario and at the last moment I noticed a sticker on the box saying it doesn't support character recognizer or transcriber .. anyone know if this FOR ME huge negative can be reversed so I can handwrite sms as MDA II let me .. (perfect solution for me)
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Both work fine for me on a UK MDA Vario, I don't know why the czech would be different. I must say however that I rarely use them because the slide out keyboard is SO sweet.
On a side note, my brother just picked up the same phone on O2 and personally I like the O2 customisations a lot better than the T-mobile ones. Especially the multiple today screen functionality.
Is it possible to install O2 extended rom and keep t-mobile comms settings? I've only just started to look into this so does anyone with any experience with this have any tips?
Thanks
I have an o2 branded (hardware and software) XDA Exec (it's unlocked). My current contract is coming to an end, so I am looking for a new contract. I am thinking about buying a contract with 3. However, I would like to keep my current phone even if the new contract includes a phone. My question is: can I put the sim in my XDA Exec? What functionality would I be able to expect? Would I be able to make phone calls, send and recieve text messages, make video calls, send and recieve picture messages etc.?
Yep, works fine, i've used my 3 sim before! Just need to add the correct connection details for the 3 portal etc.
though the three network will work . i will not recommend it because three network states do not use anyother phone with there sim cards.
Also my nokia 6230i and nokia 3220 both were working with three but they blocked them after two weeks.
so think before you use it;...
3 now have the Qtek version of Exec on their network so theres no reason why you cant use your exec now. I've never had a problem with another 3G phone on the network. The only problem that sometimes seems to occur is when the 3G SIM is put in a non 3G phone - itworks for a while then after draining too much power (as 3G SIM is higher rating than GPRS SIM) it kills the phone.... Why not just pop into a 3 shop though or call customer services?
i'm trying to dig out connection details to three. Could anybody shed some light? I've x-series addon and it would be nice if i can get it on my universal
thanks, sorted out! excellent one, i'm able to use msn messenger & web browsing. now it's time to check skype
Edit:SKYPE also works perfectly.
suniil said:
i'm trying to dig out connection details to three. Could anybody shed some light? I've x-series addon and it would be nice if i can get it on my universal
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Working on Skype etc.?! Is that on a standard XDA Exec? What are the settings? How much do the add-ons cost?
I want to try this out! Ive ordered the contract...
adamelphick said:
3 now have the Qtek version of Exec on their network so theres no reason why you cant use your exec now. I've never had a problem with another 3G phone on the network. The only problem that sometimes seems to occur is when the 3G SIM is put in a non 3G phone - itworks for a while then after draining too much power (as 3G SIM is higher rating than GPRS SIM) it kills the phone.... Why not just pop into a 3 shop though or call customer services?
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Well I have just been speaking to 3 and they will NOT support any non 3 handset nor will they give out sms, mms, or internet settings, morever if they discover that you are using a NON 3 handset then they will suspend service immediately... their customer service is absolute crap... major row on phone vowing never to return or continue to spend in excess of 100 GBp each month as pay as you go customer
Hi,
I have been using 3 sim for 9 months now. U can use video calling , internet etc without any problems.
Jatt
Can u share, please
suniil said:
thanks, sorted out! excellent one, i'm able to use msn messenger & web browsing. now it's time to check skype
Edit:SKYPE also works perfectly.
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Hi, Can u share your 3 settings for GPRS , MMs and web browsing, please . I am on 3 and have not been able to get the gprs working , nor the MMS. Thus can't get on to the net or msn etc on my O2 XDA Exec. Just for the info I have been using 3Sim on this for the past 7 months no problems with the phone functionality.
Thanx in advance
Tunndoc
Can anybody help with this query? I'd be interested to know too.
Thanks
you might find http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-266774.html useful it shows the settings.
I am on 3 with a XDA Exec and I can get almost all functionality aside from buying stuff from 3 online as it doesn't have the correct root certificates from 3 (and 3 never had the exec as a phone anyways!)
For the CORRECT settings to get you running on 3 click here
Psi
Hi guys i have a MDA PRo and i unlocked it and updated and so on.
only problem i have i would like to reach the my3 link from the mobile
U know every phone has those preinstalled connection to their provider.
and since i use 3 in the uk i would like to be able to click on that 3 button and connect to the my3 store. (which is free from a 3 phone)
since this was before a t-mobile phone and now i am using/abusing it as a three phone there is no such button.
can anyone of you guys help me?
thx in advance
Mike
I'm not sure about 3 UK, but the 3 Australia site has the settings for most of there phones, and you should be able to get all the settings and links from one of them. I have Planet 3 and all that sort of stuff working great on my Universal.
hi
type in ur internet explorer browser
http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/3g/uk/lg/grid/live
this should bring u to main screen of my3
or use
http://mobile5.three.co.uk/837_sc
for ur account usage n stuff
Hope it helps
Jatt
Hi,
I have been given a sim free HTC Tytn and want to use it with UK Vodafone. I currently have an ex-Orange SPV M2000 which i unlocked and it has been working fine with my Vodafone sim. With my M2000 i can make calls and browse the internet at the same time, but with the new Tytn i cannot do this
Is there a fix, should i upgrade it to the latest version or perhaps try and flash it with the V1605 Vodafone flash??
Advice really appreicated from one of the many knowledgeable people on here please,
Cheers
I upgraded my M2000 to a M3100 (with Orange UK) and they said I had to have a new sim. That could be it.
Alternatively when I got my M3100 it had a *very* early radio rom, and I had some probs receiving calls while browsing. Recent roms have sorted this, I think.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I have installed the HTC UK Settings .CAB file from this helpful post
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_provider_cabs
I can now access internet using my contract Orange contract sim card (which has GPRS activated) although if i am on the telephone i cannot go to browse without ending the telephone call.
my Vodafone contract sim needs updating so is not available for GPRS, but i presume this will be exactly the same.
Is it IMPOSSIBLE to use Internet browsing whilst making a telephone call??
All help appreciated, Many Thanks
if youre just on the GPRS network and not UTMS\HSPDA then yes its impossable to talk and surf. the whole point of 3G was to be able to do both at the same time. GPRS can only do one thing as the same with EDGE
so in short GPRS\EDGE = one thing at a time
UTMS\HSPDA = two things at the same time.
Hi, thanks for your reply.
I have just spoken to Orange customer services and i do have a 3G sim card and it is active, is there anything i should be altering in the settings menu or anything other files that need to be flashed or installed onto the phone?
Sorry for the lack of knowledge - hope one of you experts can help!
Thank you
Can anyone help me pleasse????
Hi , I recently got a HTC Touch 3G from Orange as i had the HTC TyII and love that phone with the wifi and now i have this new phone that seems quite good however has been changed with the Orange Unique that allows you to connect to wifi but not use it , why would they do this? (money making). The Unique technology don't do any thing that it clams to do i don't seem to get better coverage or any thing, just high data costs and a low batter.
I want to use the wifi on my phone for the internet and google maps etc, is the only way around this to flash my phone to a ROM on this site ? If so i understand that is voids my warranty , but want to know if any one has done this successfully (Hope Orange hasn't put a block on Flashing etc)so that i can do the same because i do miss my wifi and may just go back to my HTC TyII .
Thanks
hi mate i got mine about 2 weeks ago.. n hacked the ass out of it... it too was Orange UK
i was disgusted when i got it to fined it would not use the wifi as a net connection! but it sure does now and i love it!
i will get you some links in a bit
I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!
Thanks alot
thanks for your help
Wifi doesn't work at all
Hello there,
I am completely new to HTC world. Recently I bought Touch 3g locked to Orange and am currently using it with O2 after unlocking. Could never use its wifi until now with the Unique even on Orange.
I had only seen some web pages when connected through the Orange 3G.
Could you please let me know how can I remove the Unique and use it as non-Orange HTC?
Many thanks.
Touch 3g Orange
Guys, I have a touch 3g branded from Orange. Used Hard SPL - ensure you have the correct version, and that it installs correctly - reaad the hard SPL posts on how to do this - carefully - and read them again toensure you have the correct version and it loads correctly, then flash whatever rom you require - I went with the standard one and it worked first time, perfectly.
Wifi is rock solid, and it has lost all the rubbish suppressions that Orange introduced in their rom.
Good luck - reading around these forum will solve your issues no problem
Thank you neilcbennett!
I will try to work out hard spl. Wish me gud luck i'm doing this for first time!
DJHicks said:
I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!
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I did all of this but used the updated official ROM from HTC. I could not get the file from the HTC website because it says my S/N is not compatible, I can only assume that this is because HTC have agreed to not release the software to Orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3G internet rather than free WI-FI. A bit of searching led me to an English version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_Radio_Sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship.exe
Works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys
Wifi & Orange on Touch 3G
Hi Guys,
I specifically asked in the shop that it run WiFi and was ,mis-informed by the sales guy. Not his fault he was brain washed.
Anyway, came here did Hardspl & Tommy34's rom. Its great solved a battery drain (auto off wans't working) & I'm now able to easily turn off 3g until I really need it or get an o2 eqivalant tariff. WiFi works perfectly.
sever155 said:
I did all of this but used the updated official ROM from HTC. I could not get the file from the HTC website because it says my S/N is not compatible, I can only assume that this is because HTC have agreed to not release the software to Orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3G internet rather than free WI-FI. A bit of searching led me to an English version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_Radio_Sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship.exe
Works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys
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Used that myself and worked a treat - many thanks. Wasn't sure if it was for UK phones but it seemed to work ok. Now happily using Wifi.
Tessa1969 said:
Hi Guys,
I specifically asked in the shop that it run WiFi and was ,mis-informed by the sales guy. Not his fault he was brain washed.
Anyway, came here did Hardspl & Tommy34's rom. Its great solved a battery drain (auto off wans't working) & I'm now able to easily turn off 3g until I really need it or get an o2 eqivalant tariff. WiFi works perfectly.
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After updating the ROM, can you guys still use Orange 3G or do you have to use an alternative provider for internet access?
Those of you that still have the original orange UMA software, I think I have a fix for you that allows UMA to still work but uses your own wifi. Perhaps someone could roll it in to a cab or executable for me if it works.
Make sure you have disconnected any gprs connection that you may already have, change the registry key below and you can test whether it has worked or not by going to http://orangeworld.co.uk/ in a browser. If it is using your wifi you should get "The page you are trying to access is only available via your Orange phone, when connected via the Orange GPRS network. If you are a BlackBerry user trying to access via the BlackBerry Internet Service Browser please change your default Browser to OrangeWorld through which this portal is available."
there is a slight speed lag when resolving dns names I think, but maybe someone can refine the fix that I have come up with.
It has to be run each time the phone is booted:-
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{f792e23c-dc19-4668-9be4-f8688b4c18d6}\DSFLTR_UKSC_TNETW12511]
"DestId"="{436EF144-B4FB-4863-A041-8F905A62C572}"
------------
to restore the original value change DestID back to {4BECC613-31B8-4A62-80DC-893041D24D92}
Let me know how you get on.
I used sever155's link to the HK_WWE 2.33.721.1 Rom... and I too am very pleased with the transformation of my phone . thanks for sharing.
sever155 said:
i did all of this but used the updated official rom from htc. I could not get the file from the htc website because it says my s/n is not compatible, i can only assume that this is because htc have agreed to not release the software to orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3g internet rather than free wi-fi. A bit of searching led me to an english version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_radio_sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_ship.exe
works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys :d
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merci!!!!!
Like others - I've flashed a new ROM to replace the Orange one. It works great - but I need to return the phone to Orange for a replacement for another reason (found a defect in the case).
I dumped the original Orange ROM - and am all set to flash the device back to its original state.
But I forgot to make a note of the original ROM version number before dumping!
HTC Rom Tool allows me to enter anything but I assume when they get the phone back Orange will want to see an appropriate version number.
Anyone know what it should be for a new Orange branded HTC Touch 3G?
And the country ID for UK? And the model ID? Should it be Jade110 rather than Jade100?
DJHicks said:
I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!
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Thx DJHicks for the info, got it to work on my Touch 3g on Orange UK.
DJHicks said:
I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!
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Hey - a real big thanks to DJHICKS and all the others who his post on flashing a decent ROM on the HTC Touch 3G links to - I was going to ditch my new one from orange 'cus unique manager was so cr** - but he saved the day and taught me a whole lot of new stuff about PDAs!! Can't believe I'm now talking about flashing ROMs! THANKS
Unique service access to the internet
Hi All,
I have the orange touch 3g too and have been able to get on the net using the default rom without patches by using 2 steps.
First as the other post suggested stop the gprs (generic term for data access 3g or otherwise). I did this by changing the server name from "orangeinternet" to orangeinternet." this is done by manage connection from the connections tab on setting screen form the start menu. This stops any data connections.
Then once connected to your wifi at home got the unique manager and advanced setting, network adapter, there is a drop down list with work and internet on it. change it to work and then back to internet and ok it. Then you can get on the internet
The last step you have to repeat every time to you connect to the wifi as it forgets, I think the saved networks don't remember this, but if you don't used the saved networks and have the notification turned on it asks you if the network is internet or not which 'could' solve this problem, either way the steps above work reliably for me. I guess I should mention I have orange broadband too, so I get a unique connection too (the green house), this is the bit I hate the tariff is for orange to orange calls no other network, so I have to keep unique off unless I'm doing something on the internet as any call outside orange would be build as far as I can tell, I've not tried as I don't want the bill for it any info on this would be great.
Cheers
I have a solution
I put in on youtube go have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1RTX3F1bPk thanks BrooksE
I have been unable to download this file - I wonder if it has been removed from mediafire. Have tried several times from different PCs.
Does anyone know where else I can download it from?
I am trying to free myself from Unique but so far have not succeeded depsite trying to follow the instructions in this thread!
sever155 said:
I did all of this but used the updated official ROM from HTC. I could not get the file from the HTC website because it says my S/N is not compatible, I can only assume that this is because HTC have agreed to not release the software to Orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3G internet rather than free WI-FI. A bit of searching led me to an English version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_Radio_Sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship.exe
Works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys
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