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I find it funny that the dash is able to get the gps working on google maps and when it comes to the wing (MUMZZZ)the word.!
can someone help me if there is a logical answer and solution to my dilemma ...........
this is wrong in sooooooooo many ways. first, neither the dash (HTC excalibur) nor the wing (HTC Herald/Atlas) have built-in GPS.
Google maps uses data, does it not? So theoretically, anywhere you have a data connection, you can use google maps.
If by gps you mean an external gps, it's only a matter of tethering your gps to your phone, which is relatively self-explanatory
ok
so how is the dash able to track location on google maps also searches for gps and is successful . unless a buddy of mine has a special dash ..
i believe google just implemented a new service that uses cellphone tower triangulation to determine an approximate location. does it show your friends location as a dot or a dot over a larger, lighter colored dot?
I was going to post this yesterday, but didnt get a chance to..
GPS on the wing is NOT possible, UNLESS using a gps device.
THOUGH, google maps (the newest version) has a way of attempting to find your location without GPS. It uses cell phone towers to triangulate your posistion. This is not as accurate as GPS though, it can be anywhere dead on your posistion, or it could be 1500 meters off. it just depends on the amount of cell coverage in the area.
i dont know
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this
rosco32 said:
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this
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ofcourse you can "implement a gps program" just connect teh wing to a gps-mouse und use one of these:
- tomtom
- mn
- navigator
- destinator
- route66
rosco32 said:
if their using triangulation off of towers to get a position how com it doesn't work on my wing ? I have the new version of gmaps there has to be a way to implement a gps program into the wing come on people lets put our heads together something good has to come out off this
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Did you hit 0 (zero) ?
GPS
fzzyrn said:
this is wrong in sooooooooo many ways. first, neither the dash (HTC excalibur) nor the wing (HTC Herald/Atlas) have built-in GPS.
Google maps uses data, does it not? So theoretically, anywhere you have a data connection, you can use google maps.
If by gps you mean an external gps, it's only a matter of tethering your gps to your phone, which is relatively self-explanatory
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I got a question for you may be stupid but hey gotta start somewhere... I hae a Garmin and wanted to know how to "tether" my garmin to my wing for Gmaps? Can you help me out?
I need alot of help since im new to the world of rom's and radios ok im using a sprint mogul and i want to enable gps on my phone using the official rom does this rom have the radio and the rom? or will i just get one and if i do just get one do i need to get the other one and if i do can u recommend one and give me a good detailed guide on how to do this i dont want to brick my phone or anything and im new to this so i need alot of help all help is appreciated
if you want to flash the oficial rom just download the exe from the HTC site, run it and follow the instructions, it will update both the rom and radio
rom
If I were you, I'd definitely do this on a XP computer. When I put the 3.35 HTC ROM on my Mogul through MS Vista, it got bricked 11% in. Both my XP and Vista computers wouldn't even recognize it as a mobile device. Anyway, after browsing forums for a few hours, I found some posts on how to fix it. It was painful, but it is possible to fix so don't panic if you screw up your first RM update.
Thanks i did it on my laptop took like 12minutes and worked like a charm i i just learned y they call it the tri-color screen now is upgraded to a cooked rom harder than flashing to a official rom?And how do i get the gps to work i have google maps but wat else do i need and will it cost money?
chococrazy said:
Thanks i did it on my laptop took like 12minutes and worked like a charm i i just learned y they call it the tri-color screen now is upgraded to a cooked rom harder than flashing to a official rom?And how do i get the gps to work i have google maps but wat else do i need and will it cost money?
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google maps should automatically detect your gps (at least it did for me) just select "Use GPS" from the menu
the only cost is data (for google maps anyway) so make sure you have a data plan, if not you can use a program like TomTom which has locally stored maps (to clarify the GPS functions are free, but googlemaps uses your data connection to download maps)
defaultdotxbe said:
google maps should automatically detect your gps (at least it did for me) just select "Use GPS" from the menu
the only cost is data (for google maps anyway) so make sure you have a data plan, if not you can use a program like TomTom which has locally stored maps (to clarify the GPS functions are free, but googlemaps uses your data connection to download maps)
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Yes but is there a program thats like tomtom or garmin thats free? And whenever i use google maps i put *track location* and it stick at 0 gps satellites found im using this indoors too.
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Yes but is there a program thats like tomtom or garmin thats free?
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not that i know of, but data plans arent free either so technically neither is google maps
And whenever i use google maps i put *track location* and it stick at 0 gps satellites found im using this indoors too.
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sometimes it takes as much as 30 minutes for an initial lock (its faster after that very first time) but it doesnt really work well indoors anyway, try it outside
i found this forum with one tahts free i just cant figure out which phone is mine on the download page there is no ppc6800 mogul titan i also heard that it can be called a p400o but thats not there either im using sprint.http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/eng/index.php
nav4all doesnt work on my sprint mogul.
it just keeps searching for a gps lock adn never gets there.
phone's a refurb from about a month ago; gps works fine under google but worked ****ty under telenav during the trail period.
if anyone knows how to make nav4all happy on a mogul i'd love to know.
With the new Windows Mobile 6.1 upgrade is available for the Telus HTC touch, we can now have access to the GPS function. Witch is great. The only problem, I kneed to use the Telus Navigator program in order for my GPS to work.
Other program will work but only after enabling the GPS by starting Telus Navigator.
The 2 other program I'm trying to configure are : Google maps and GPS Tuner.
Both work, but not before I turn on the Telus GPS program, even if I set the port manually.
Is there any buddy els with that same problem ?
Salut alex
I have the HTC Touch from Telus (wich is the Vogue by the way, not the Elf, that's the GSM version ( from Rogers))
I have acces to my GPS from Google maps without having to open Telus Navigator or any other software. You just have to make sure you have a data session active. Just move the map in google around so it will connect the data and you should be good to go!
Also, of course, make sure you have checked the "use GPS" function!
Oh! Remember that the phone needs to see the sky to detect satellites! It won't work well inside...
Guys... check out this thread which I started once the leaked rom was released.. In it you will find directions to fully activate your gps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus
Thanks Guys.
I spent two days searching post on finding a way to make it work. For a reason I dont know, I could not activate my GPS without the Telus navigator. And it seams I'm not the only one.
The best way I found is true GPS gate. A software the activate your GPS port. Then I could use any GPS program I installed.
Still trying out a programs to find the best one that suites me tho !
Hello, just need something things cleared up, I have unlocked my phone by cooking custom rom and enabling GPS capabilities for this phone. I have spent a week or so learning how to mod different things like SPB, S2U2, icontacts, etc.... I traveled to Montreal from Toronto using the GPS pay services, $8 a month, which is reasonable, but I was wondering if it possible to use the GPS capabilities for free. I know when you go buy a GPS unit, you dont have to pay for the service, only if you want to update your maps. Is there some registry hack or software that will enable this for free. Please let me know and point me in the right direction if possible, thanks everyone.
gps free with unlimited date plan
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it
Original poster was asking whether it was free to acquire GPS through satellite rather than through a data connection.
I have an Elf so I don't know the answer, but the Vogue has a GPS chip in it so I'm assuming it can communicate with satellites. If you have the newer ROMs then it should have GPS enabled in the operating system.
guig54 said:
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it
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did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.
Thanks
Hey guys thanks alot for your replies, I think I have a better grasp on what you all are saying. So, I have enabled the GPS capabilities on my phone through the ROM. Now I have a icon in programs menu that says GPSNav. When I go to that application it gives me 2 options, 3.50 a day and 8.00 a month. From what I understand GPS on these phones are done through a data connection meaning the internet, not through locking onto an actual satellite like those dedicated GPS devices. I do have an unlimited data plan right now. So, is it because I'm running this particular program that I have to pay? Or is there another program I can either use through one time purchase or I can find on the net somewhere that I can install and get GPS for free through using my unlimited data plan (triangulation). If there is an app out there, whats the name? Thank again!
guig54 said:
did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.
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Hmm... I thought the GPS capability of these newer phones was equivalent to the functionality of using separate Bluetooth GPS receiver. Thus no need to buy the receiver anymore.
Correct me if I am wrong, because this was one of my reasons for wanting to buy a Touch Diamond or the Touch 3G.
gps without any plan
i dont know for the touch diamond or the touch 3g because the telus interface is cdma not gsm. but if you want to get an gps connection without being charged for it. its shure that if you have to open an app that charged you for using the gps its because first- that you've not flash a custom rom or simply with the new htc rom wm6.1 you can just modify your Qpst and with a little registry hack you can get a fully free of charged gps using. but you will need to install a gps sorftware that already have all the map in it. or if you have and unlimited data plan get google map and youll never be charged for using the gps chipset enabled.
For now I've almost get a gps lock with my HTC libra without any plan at all, its seeking for satellite but not able to lock on 1. im trying to get a pass trough the cellular tower to get a data unlimited to for free with cloning and some little other hack. ill see if its working.
gps and internet working without any plan.... to much
the gps connection working with a 8 second locking time and 10 gps satellite locking on. with the new rom wm6.1 from telus i've found that there is many thing that make it so funny and easy to hack and make everything working. now i've found how to make the internet connection working.
google maps working
9-10 gps satellites lock on
8 second delay for locking satellite
satellite view working because of the internet hack ..... so hot
internet
download bitrate of 1200 kbps
Now the question is how long all this will stay working.
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol
guig54 said:
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol
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I'm not fully understanding what you're saying. But... to help others out you are making them pay for it? On this site?
My initial point about the GPS chip was not to imply CDMA or GSM. It should have nothing to do with either. I'm talking about direct satellite tracking (like with a bluetooth receiver) not tracking through cellular network. Maybe someone else can enlighten us on this.
im not telling to ask other to pay for my help but for the key to acces the network without any data plan and get full free access to gps. about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
the way i've found to connect to the network is pretty easy after all but that take me so much hours to found this hack that im not gona give it to a nobody(french term)
when youre talking about direct satellite its your choice but about me im not working on that because ive no interest in that.
Now next step is to get a free access to the cellular tower and get access to make phone call without having a plan with a company
guig54 said:
about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
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My Elfin doesn't have a GPS device built in. that is why I have to use Bluetooth to connect to my separate GPS receiver. That is what most people do.
2nd day off free internet access
day 2, the internet connection still alive.
-I think that yesterday about 3hrs after i got access they try to deconnect me . Because i've been deconnected and they send me and msg that ive not permission to acces the network. but after soft-reset everything get back on and nothing else apen after that everything going good.
-Now can somebody now if its possible to make a roundup connections with cell tower. is it possible to activate the option of making the request activation after the connection begin like the 10 min registry hack activation delay for the btpan in dcd rom
sorry for my poor english im from Quebec, Canada.
mabe if something possible I'll be interested in develloping and creating a kind off ghost phone project with the help off every one who know something about that
thanks
I have an Elfin myself, so I don't know how the Vogue works...
But from what I've read, the Vogue has a built-in GPS chip. This is not to be confused with aGPS (Assisted GPS), which uses the cell towers to triangulate your position; it's not as accurate as true GPS but it gives you a good idea. I'm not sure if aGPS costs you money, I would assume it does as it needs to use the internet (Google maps uses an aGPS style positioning).
Where as true GPS uses a chip to pick up on the 24 GPS satellites or so, orbiting the earth right now. The chip is designed to get a satellite lock, and the satellites help triangulate your position to a more accurate position. Well, more satellites/cell towers = better accuracy. Therfore consider 24 satellites, or 3 or 4 cell towers. Obviously true GPS works better.
So from what I understand, you just unlock the GPS (which I believe is true GPS), then I would download Garmin XT for windows mobile and use that. You will have to download or buy the map sets, load those onto an SD card in your phone. Then you can use Garmin XT (with pre-installed maps), combined with the internal GPS chip - it should work just fine, and will not use the internet.
I have been using Garmin XT on my Elfin, with a bluetooth GPS and it works great. I have never used a data plan either.
Now, I just wonder what chip the Vogue is using for it's GPS - it must be some kind of SiRF chip... Maybe someone can tell us, then we will know the exact type of GPS it uses.
Try out Garmin XT and let us know.
hey guys..
i have an HTC Vogue..
i was wondering..
if..
Google Maps does work without having a wifi connection?
its WM default ROM..
PS.
[i live in Central America]
Hi
i have read in a few other posts regarding GPS issues and Sat Nav software not working
now i have seen a few programs that 'kick off' the GPS and then runs the program and i have run these to no avail,
i was wondering if anyone else has not only had this issue but struggled to get it working, google maps seems to pick me up via GPS but tomtom is saying 'no gps device' go into settings within tomtom and set to internal gps device, and check gps status and no cannot see any satellites. i have had the phone outside inthe line of sight of the sky for an hour so me being inpatient isn't the issue, any help would be greatly appreciated
ta
Try this:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/GPS/GPS-Test-34335.shtml
Update QuickGPS.
If no satellites show up after a max of 5mins of you standing outside with clear view of the sky, then you either need to flash another radio or the gps is dead.
hi
thanks
have left phone outside running that, seems to be scanning com1-9..pausing for a second on port 3 then continuing. will let you know in 10 mins, what is flashing another radio involve?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466274
ok stupid question time, but if it google maps seems to be working ok would that not suggest that the GPS radio is ok, and secondly if i did flash which one would i go for on that link you sent
i have radio version 1.09.25.14 protocol 52.49a.25.261u
there is a link
Download 1.09.25.14 / 52.49a.25.26W Radio only Megepload
Download HD_Blackstone_Radio 1.09.25.14 (with RUU) 4shared
am i flashing this even though my protocol is different?
and there is about another 10 files below all them called
Blackstone Rilphone.dll Cabs
all confusing can you help any more please
thanks
I don't believe anything google maps says in relation to GPS after it told me one of my non GPS phones had inbuilt gps, and then calculated my position using the mobile phone network.
As for which you need, well it depends on which rom you are running, whether it's a stock rom (bog-standard rom you get on device when you buy it), or a custom cooked rom from someone on the forums. I suggest you read up on it thoroughly then post in the correct radio thread if you want to ask any more questions regarding the right radio version you need.
fair do's
thanks
Did you have google maps open when you started Tomtom? That may have caused an error
hi
thanks for reply, no i open google maps it seems to find my location. close google maps, then open tomtom and is saying no gps device. the 'onboard' gps device is set on tomtom options it's just as if the gps reciever isn't picking up, same in other sat nav progams too, garmin is the same so makes me think is phone not software issue
AFAIK, Google Maps is A-GPS software, while TomTom, iGO and others are full GPS software.
Don't know about TomTom, but iGO DOES NOT work if A-GPS is enabled...
hmmmm. i'll give it a whirl, not got the phone withme at the mo, a mate is attempting to simunock it, agps is enabled so i will disable it see if that helps. tempted to get rid and get an effing iphone at this rate
Let us know how you go....
Don't give up, it;s a great phone
had the same issue with tomtom v7.450. using tomtom v7.916 now and it's running like charm
Just had replacement Touch HD delivered from Orange this morning, flashed to my usual ROM, and get exactly the same symptoms as Pete did.....
Tried:
TomTom
Memory map
HTC GPS Tool
Updating QuickGPS
Updating Radio ROM to latest version
Reflashing different OS roms
nothing makes a difference.
Not really keen to take it apart as i'll break the VOID sticker and probably end up in an argument with Orange, but Id bet any money that the GPS cable has come loose......so frustrating as im working abroad as of next week and i'll really use the GPS a lot......
Also just found out that the replacement handset is "refurb".....I bet the muppet that refurbed it didnt reconnect the GPS cable