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http://cre.ations.net/creation/dock
I was Digg'ing when I saw this little app. Can we do it so that it works on PPC and with any app and any launch icon (png preferably?)
The source code is in there... so this should be easy?
dferreira said:
http://cre.ations.net/creation/dock
I was Digg'ing when I saw this little app. Can we do it so that it works on PPC and with any app and any launch icon (png preferably?)
The source code is in there... so this should be easy?
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Nice !!!
Notice how fast it goes and no lagging
i wish someone can create a today plugin like this.. or a window based launcher.. i hate full screen apps..
it's possible to download it for my htc elf (wm06)
naillik said:
it's possible to download it for my htc elf (wm06)
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no, it won't work in any device except the iphone..
we are here to request some very good hearted and generous WM programmer to maybe find some time to create a similar application..
all other platforms are making very big leaps in terms of Menu Handling and Graphic User Interfaces.. these features makes or breaks a Platform's sales.. especially to those who are thinking of switching...
too bad Windows Mobile's base GUI is a decade behind the others..
so pleaaase.. pretty please? can someone look into making this? i may sound pathetic but if this is all i can do to make this slick launcher come to WM doorsteps and i'm willing to do more..
ytsejam_ said:
no, it won't work in any device except the iphone..
we are here to request some very good hearted and generous WM programmer to maybe find some time to create a similar application..
all other platforms are making very big leaps in terms of Menu Handling and Graphic User Interfaces.. these features makes or breaks a Platform's sales.. especially to those who are thinking of switching...
too bad Windows Mobile's base GUI is a decade behind the others..
so pleaaase.. pretty please? can someone look into making this? i may sound pathetic but if this is all i can do to make this slick launcher come to WM doorsteps and i'm willing to do more..
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On the other side, if it's just eyecandy, it's almost worthless.
I'm not convinced that this kind of GUI is really useful: one precise tap to move, maybe more, then on tap to launch. It appears to me that it's more efficient that one tap bring a menu, or like in PCM keyboard, one tap, 250ms later you can choose the right option.
tene said:
On the other side, if it's just eyecandy, it's almost worthless.
I'm not convinced that this kind of GUI is really useful: one precise tap to move, maybe more, then on tap to launch. It appears to me that it's more efficient that one tap bring a menu, or like in PCM keyboard, one tap, 250ms later you can choose the right option.
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yes that's what i am aiming at.. maybe we could have a launcher icon that when you tap and hold, brings up a new set of icons, etc.. IMHO this is better that having bunch of little non-appealing tabs to click on, then click again to launch an app..
also, this GUI is more than of a today screen material for it displays a lot of shortcuts in one line, meaning more space left on today screen real estate.. so if you have a lot of shortcuts on your today screen, you don't have to fill the entire screen with icons or reduce the icon size to fit em all.. don't we all hate scroll bars on our today screen? with this, all you need to do is do a horizontal scroll (or maybe move D-pad left or right) to focus the offscreen shortcuts.. far better than tabbed launchers IMHO.. besides, finger scrolling is now easy to do and common to most new Devices due to Touch based ROMS..
Have you seen the MRU (Most Recent Apps) plugin on our WM Smartphones? this is the same concept, except that it launches specific shortcuts instead of shuffled apps, and navigation is controlled by a swipe movement..
Menu-based Launcher already exists
If you want to press a button to bring up a menu of icons, that already exists. Check out WM5NewMenu by saman-cz (this forum). It started off as a shortcut to add a new appointment or contact, but evolved into a program launcher with some really neat capability like nested menus and shortcuts for speeddial. Doesn't have icons though, just shortcut name (prob keeps the memory smaller).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255580
I'd still be interested in a horizontal scroller for frequently used apps to replace cLaunch on the today screen if anyone can take that on...
tene said:
On the other side, if it's just eyecandy, it's almost worthless.
I'm not convinced that this kind of GUI is really useful: one precise tap to move, maybe more, then on tap to launch. It appears to me that it's more efficient that one tap bring a menu, or like in PCM keyboard, one tap, 250ms later you can choose the right option.
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Tene I think your PocketCM is the general idea, instead of contact list and vertical scrolling you could make it shortcut list and horizontal scrolling.
Hello,
I lwould like to have an AppLauncher similar to the MacOSX bar.
in bottom U have small icons, if U are hove on one it becomes bigger and on releasing it, a Menu slides in the screen.
Im already trying to code such an app, in native C++.
But for a first Release ( just showing the GUI ) it' ll takes still a little time.
I have not so much in moment ( studying?!, moving into another house... ), also its my first Programm using the winapi....
So wish me luck....
Dear friends,
We are very happy to announce that FTouchSL (former FTouchFlo) officially released!
You can find it at the FTouchSL web-site: www.ftouchsl.com
At the moment FTouchSL available in 2 versions: trial and full. Yes, you understand right - it is not a freeware application anymore. We had to choose this way because otherwise we would need to stop development.
FTouchSL development team worked hard last few months and we believe you will like new Product available on the xDA software market.
With best regards,
FTouchSL development team.
WOW..so cool thanx alot..will try first
If anybody deserves to make money off software its efrost. What does the 'F' in FTouchFlo stand for? Ive always been curious,the possibilities are endless.....
Just ordered my copy. A note: maybe include in the website how we get it once we pay, I'm not sure if you're e-mailing it, or do I receive a key? Thanks.
Also note: I would suggest to you Efrost, maybe upload some of those videos here, that's what convinced me to buy, they look amazing.
**edit
My little review
I found the trial version very difficult to use between the popups. I was having a problem where *I think* then when I would set Up-Down to "minimize" it would freeze up and disable the "the Enable FTouchSL" checkbox and I couldn't find a way (using keyboard and hardkeys) to re-check the box (since windows touch was disabled): I think there needs to be a way to check and uncheck this using hardkeys.
with that being said:
I love the plugins. "Slide to lock" works great - You can assign Down-Up to lock, Updown to Minimize, Left-right to rotate screeen
It is a little harder to scroll a few lines at a top, you need to "chop" more, little chops with your finger otherwise teh kinetic scroll takes over and it scrolls too much, it's just a matter of getting used to it. Great product ,I recommend.
Hello!
Thank you for your order!
Please provide us (by e-mail) with your device identifier which you can find in the About box in the FTouchSL configuration utility.
You'll get your license key immediately by e-mail!
Best regards,
efrost
elgreek84 said:
Just ordered my copy. A note: maybe include in the website how we get it once we pay, I'm not sure if you're e-mailing it, or do I receive a key? Thanks.
Also note: I would suggest to you Efrost, maybe upload some of those videos here, that's what convinced me to buy, they look amazing.
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I somewhat had a feeling it will go commercial. And since it was a very good program I am not surprised. If you need help localizing it/or product webpage into Czech (just kidding ) or Slovak language, let me know.
first view, on the videos, it seems nicer than ftouchflo...is there any exclude config file for Apps you dont want FtouchSL to scroll ?
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first view, on the videos, it seems nicer than ftouchflo...is there any exclude config file for Apps you dont want FtouchSL to scroll ?
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Hello!
Please look at the "Product info" page. It is possible to configure FTouchSL for particular applications: you can completely turn off FTouchSL, disable scrolling, disable launching, disable active corners or set up different actions.
Best regards,
efrost
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If you need help localizing it/or product webpage into Czech (just kidding ) or Slovak language, let me know.
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Hello! Thanks a lot!
Best regards,
efrost
Hello, guys! I need an answer! This aplication will be change the default TouchFlo app on HTC Touch, won't it?
Beaumont said:
Hello, guys! I need an answer! This aplication will be change the default TouchFlo app on HTC Touch, won't it?
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Hello!
There are options: you can disable original TouchFLO if you want or you can disable FTouchSL scrolling function and use original TouchFLO.
Best regards,
efrost
Just downloaded the trial... Latter I´m going to install and play with it!
I never tried this before so I loaded FTouchFlo on my att 8925. Original ROM on the phone. It locks up randomly and never did that before. Does FTouchSL work differently? I disabled TouchFlo to run FTouchFlo.
By the way, props to you for this, whether or not it works on my phone.
Eric29 said:
I never tried this before so I loaded FTouchFlo on my att 8925. Original ROM on the phone. It locks up randomly and never did that before. Does FTouchSL work differently? I disabled TouchFlo to run FTouchFlo.
By the way, props to you for this, whether or not it works on my phone.
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Hello!
Last few months we were improving the engine and fixing bugs. I hope you'll not have locks!
Best regards,
efrost
What I think about this...
Think I'm one of the few privileged 'early bird' who get to test out this greatly improved version of FTouchFlo by efrost! Most of us here at xda-developers are no stranger to FTouchFlo, as well as EfrostMinimize, two great programs which made our experience in using our PPC a much pleasant one.
For those who don't quite know about FTouchFlo, in essence, FTouchFlo allows PPC users to perform scrolling without using the default tiny scroll bar that comes with WM OS. It also allows user to append different programme (for the 4 directions - up, down left & right) which will be launched by the swiping gesture of one's finger on the PPC screen.
FTouchSL has brought the above functions to yet another level. Check their official website - www.ftouchsl.com for the details. As I was greatly 'blessed' by this application, I thought I should share with all my take of & experience in using this software. Hopefully for those who are still wondering what this is or contemplating on getting it will find my 'sharing' helpful.
Quick Start Tutorial
I find the 'Quick Start Tutorial', put together by efrost and team to guide users (especially those who are totally new) through all the functions of FTouchSL, was very well done and useful. It will launch after the installation. Try not to skip it.
Scrolling
The scrolling under FTouchSL is much better than FTouchFlo, especially with the newly added kinetic function (like the one in PocketCM and iContact), which is a nice touch to the scrolling effect, and making scrolling through long pages (e.g. Contact listing) a breeze.
In addition, you can freely roam about a big page (e.g. web page) by keeping your finger on the screen and just move around in the direction you want, horizontally, diagonally etc.
Gestures
Instead of just launching application/files, now user can also launch plug-in (e.g. Minimize, Suspend, Soft reset, etc) and send keys (feature that simulate key press of D-Pad) for the four directions!
Active Corners
This is something new, not found in FTouchFlo. Basically, one can assign applications/functions to be launched at the 4 corners, just like gesture.
Setting Panel
Setting Penal has all the features clearly listed, with nicely drawn icons which makes it clear which feature it is, at one glance. A picture does speak a thousand words!
You can really tell efrost and team put in a lot of effort to make the Setting Panel user-friendly. You can actually see the 'zone' (colored) which you can customize for gesture and active corners, and not just trying to second guess how big 40 x 40 pixels is!!
Configuration
Personally, I find the ability to configure (in depth!) the various features display how much improvements was done to FTouchSL as compared to FTouchFlo.
You can customize the delay time for scrolling, gesture and active corners i.e. how long your finger need to be in contact with the screen for 'scrolling/ gesture/active corners' function to kick in. I prefer 300 milliseconds (ms) for gesture instead of the 500ms, and a shorter 600 or 800ms for active corner, rather than 1000ms. Then again, this is really individual preference.
As mentioned earlier, you can also customize how big the 'zone' for gesture and active corners. For users with bigger fingers like me, we may want to increase from 40 pixels to say 50. Oh yes, the zone need not be symmetrical.
Exclusion
Ok, here's the most exciting bit - Exclusion. While FTouchFlo allows you to exclude applications from using FTouchFlo, FTouchSL allows more than that. You can actually customize, for those applications which may not require FTouchSL (thus you want to include them in Exclusion list), which feature to be excluded. Meaning, do you want to exclude everything, or just the scrolling, with gesture and active corners enabled, etc. Interesting right!? Wait, there is more!
You can actually choose which gesture and corner to be enabled!! And you can also customize a different set (from the main one) of actions/applications to be activated by gesture/active corners for each and every application!! So, FTouchSL can be set to launch different applications for the Down-Up swipe gesture for Inbox, ereader etc. just an example!
efrost has shared a good one - customize left and right gesture to activate send key 'left' and 'right' in tmail. When you are in your Inbox, you can switch to from SMS to MMS to Outlook, etc by just swiping left and right!
Think the possibilities are only constrained by one's imagination. Do share with us if you find some combinations to be really good!
Some Possible Enhancements
I also notice some possible enhancements (mostly cosmetic and presentation, rather than functionality) which efrost and team can consider.
1) The Setting Panel is a bit too small for my rather big finger. Making it bigger would be nice. My preference goes to something like the Config Panel for S2U2.
2) Also, the inverted triangle for the drop down list panel for customizing actions for gesture and active corner is a bit too close to the right edge for comfort use.
3) More write-up/description for each item in the Setting Panel would be helpful I think, especially for new users.
E.g. Instead of just a word 'Delay', how about a short line saying 'The time you need to press on the screen'.
4) Personally, I would like to see a 'cooler' icon for this product.
So far I have no problem using this application on my Trinity. Doesn't lock up my device nor causing it any problem after using it for days. If you're still hesitant or doubtful about how good this application is, just give it a try and I believe most of us will not regret paying a small sum for such a great improvement FTouchSL does to our experience in using our PPC!
Sian
thanks so much for developing such a good s/w for us.
going for trial fisrt!!!
Much respect for your hard work efrost! I will definitely purchase a copy.
Paid for and happy I did!
Here's my support mate!
Receipt ID: 2VG90842GH7292327
Many Thanks!
Here is my thanks to efrost for having me appreciate authors more on maintaining freeware through all stages of developement and final builds. I LOVE YOU ALL PointUI team, and especially Tene for pocketCM you are truely the support of XDA community.
Edit: BTW before any flames start, I thought I would point out that this is not to be taken in a negative view. Just awed on how they are able to maintaine thier life to something with keeping a finacial status a float?? Maybe someone can put these in better words.
Thanks.
efrost said:
Hello!
Last few months we were improving the engine and fixing bugs. I hope you'll not have locks!
Best regards,
efrost
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Well, it didn't work for my Trinity! Ftouchflo was super stable. FTouchSL freezes it every minute. Had to disable FTouchSL after 5 frustrating minutes...
Hi all. I am new on this great forum.
There are some stylus-free application but I would like that there is a complete stylus-free application for everything on a windowsmobile (not only the contacts or the music player) so can we make a project to use our WM without stylus?
PS: I know there are pointui, and other ui but they are only UI so I want (if possible) a complete stylus-free application
We already have some applications:
pointUI for the UI
Icontact or pockeetCM for the contacts
the music player from the touch or the manila player
and now what about the others applications?
Internet browsing: opera 9.5 from the manila
best virtual Keyboard stylus-free: ?
So, my wish is that we make a .cab with as much as possible finger-friendly application to have a better and faster control for all WM.
I hope you agree and we (the community) make a complete stylus-free application for all uses on WM.
EDIT: If you didn't understand what I mean, I would like that the TOUCH developper get together and create only one powerful application and not creat many more (I think there are more than 10 UI apps) even if they are great I think it will be better that you make one complete application.
brilliant idea
couldnt agree more bud
thanks!
I'm waiting on developpers
SO you know all the fingerfriendly apps, so what is this thread about ???
Are you waiting for a developer who makes 4 cabs to one ??
Are you to lazy to install 4 cabs or what ? Sorry man, this is junior bull****, install pointui, opera, pocketcm and thumbcal, this can´t be to difficult also for noobs.
I've already installed them. They are great but for example I must use the stylus for the calendar, the start menu, the settings, the pictures/videos gallery...
And I want to never have to use the stylus.
Thumbcal is a great Calendar wich is made for "touchfeeling"
so you can find her thumbCal ,a completly fingerfriendly calendar and with point ui, ultimatelaunch or thousands of other launchers here you dont need starmenue, settings or something like that, so again, what is this thread about ,
here is a list of some apps i use:
PointUI
thumbCal
PocketCm
s2u2, s2p, s2v
diamond keyboard
opera 9.5
SO PLEASE SEARCH ! If you really tried all this apps then i dont know why you need your stylus ? To make on GUI out of all this isnt usefull because every user whats something special and installing the applications YOU want is so easy. the easiest and most powerfull GUI ist pointui, then you use thumbcal., for media the s2-apps (or the HTC Apps) and for browsing opera 9.5 (or opera mini) and another keyboard thats it.
This is the collection I'm using on my tmobile wing right now:
0. Pointui 1.51a
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
This is the most complete UI replacement for WM IMHO. Besides the Home Task Bar gives users a feel of consistency when launching apps, settings, etc. The new version is much more stable than previous versions, and almost bug free, almost. Check pointui forum for more details.
Be aware! Most of these have *opposite* vertical scrolling than pointui. However I think pointui scrolling is SUPERIOR because I can scroll much faster
1. S2U2 - for full screen caller ID (indispensable) and lock, so when unlock it goes to whatever it was before locking instead of Home
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381588
Pointui theme:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?p=4468#p4468
The analog clock is exactly the same - looks almost unreal, and also can be customized by pointtweaks as the default lock program
2. S2P - music player, exactly like what Iphone has (too close to iphone than what I like)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=37762
3. S2V - picture viewer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358187
can be used with parameter such as "\storage card\my documents\my pictures" (without quotes) to open that directory on default, also use to assign pictures to contacts
The nice thing about the slide 2 series is their task bar has a similar look with pointui task bar, sweet!
4. ThumbCal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373971
can be customized as the default calendar and task manager using pointtweaks:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1309&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
5. IContact 0.73
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395829
With theme support
Mac OSX theme or iphone theme:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398660
6. IPhone dialpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380466
Really iphony... very nice and big buttons and very responsive. Caution: last number redial doesn't work, smart dial works after hiding keypad. Hey who needs last number redial when the pointui call history is SOooo... nice.
7. Touchpal
http://www.cootek.com/download.aspx
You can always use the free version of it. Big buttons, and tons of extra functionality (copy, paste, internet suffix, symbols, etc). Best for fat fingers like what I have.
Caution: you may need SIP changer to make it default after soft reset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Not so finger friendly but still good enough with finger navigation:
1. Total commander
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
The most powerful file manager for WM, period. Using large icons it can be quite finger friendly, and with the combination of a touch-flo rom, no need for stylus. Also use as registry editor.
2. Opera Mini
http://www.operamini.com/
If you don't know what opera mini is then you're missing the good stuff. Works best with Esmertec Jbed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394227
Not so finger friendly at first glance but totally cool with pure finger operation.
Finger unfriendly software but still worth mentioning:
1. TCPMP
http://www.badongo.com/file/4055874
A project stopped a long time ago (because they went commercial, kinda like where pointui is leading). Good player for youtube and avi files when bundled with flashvideobundle
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1319431
However because d-pad works well during playback (up/down for volume, left/right for rewind/fast forward) therefore still handleable
2. QuickMenu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340358
Not finger friendly at all; but very powerful. Mainly use d-pad to operate but because it also has task manger function and assign OK to close programs, quite useful from day-to-day
I have also created folders in my windows\start menu so now programs of similar groups (office, internet, etc) gets put in their respective folder. This greatly reduced the clutter when trying to launch programs from either pointui or quick menu.
Now the only time I draw out the stylus is when I need to scratch on the note - finger just can't do that, at least not yet
Speak to Schaps - he's currently looking for beta testers for a new Touch Menu UI he's been developing for the past 6 months...
Link here: Schaps new Touch UI
I don't think this is a good idea because there are tons of finger-friendly apps...
And you have only to chose the one fits better to your needs....
So you must try them to figure out which is the best for you.....
All these apps are great, but there is a big problem:
it is not always possible to use them all, because there are many features which are double implemented.
for example: pocketcm ist not just for contacts, also for sms, etc.
pointui has a gui for contacts too but not for sms, and so on...
it would be nice, if those developers will make a new project together and each of them will do what he can do best (pointui-team should make the gui, pocketcm-developer the contacts, etc.).
wearefree said:
This is the collection I'm using on my tmobile wing right now:
0. Pointui 1.51a
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
This is the most complete UI replacement for WM IMHO. Besides the Home Task Bar gives users a feel of consistency when launching apps, settings, etc. The new version is much more stable than previous versions, and almost bug free, almost. Check pointui forum for more details.
Be aware! Most of these have *opposite* vertical scrolling than pointui. However I think pointui scrolling is SUPERIOR because I can scroll much faster
1. S2U2 - for full screen caller ID (indispensable) and lock, so when unlock it goes to whatever it was before locking instead of Home
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381588
Pointui theme:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?p=4468#p4468
The analog clock is exactly the same - looks almost unreal, and also can be customized by pointtweaks as the default lock program
2. S2P - music player, exactly like what Iphone has (too close to iphone than what I like)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=37762
3. S2V - picture viewer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358187
can be used with parameter such as "\storage card\my documents\my pictures" (without quotes) to open that directory on default, also use to assign pictures to contacts
The nice thing about the slide 2 series is their task bar has a similar look with pointui task bar, sweet!
4. ThumbCal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373971
can be customized as the default calendar and task manager using pointtweaks:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1309&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
5. IContact 0.73
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395829
With theme support
Mac OSX theme or iphone theme:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398660
6. IPhone dialpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380466
Really iphony... very nice and big buttons and very responsive. Caution: last number redial doesn't work, smart dial works after hiding keypad. Hey who needs last number redial when the pointui call history is SOooo... nice.
7. Touchpal
http://www.cootek.com/download.aspx
You can always use the free version of it. Big buttons, and tons of extra functionality (copy, paste, internet suffix, symbols, etc). Best for fat fingers like what I have.
Caution: you may need SIP changer to make it default after soft reset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Not so finger friendly but still good enough with finger navigation:
1. Total commander
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
The most powerful file manager for WM, period. Using large icons it can be quite finger friendly, and with the combination of a touch-flo rom, no need for stylus. Also use as registry editor.
2. Opera Mini
http://www.operamini.com/
If you don't know what opera mini is then you're missing the good stuff. Works best with Esmertec Jbed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394227
Not so finger friendly at first glance but totally cool with pure finger operation.
Finger unfriendly software but still worth mentioning:
1. TCPMP
http://www.badongo.com/file/4055874
A project stopped a long time ago (because they went commercial, kinda like where pointui is leading). Good player for youtube and avi files when bundled with flashvideobundle
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1319431
However because d-pad works well during playback (up/down for volume, left/right for rewind/fast forward) therefore still handleable
2. QuickMenu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340358
Not finger friendly at all; but very powerful. Mainly use d-pad to operate but because it also has task manger function and assign OK to close programs, quite useful from day-to-day
I have also created folders in my windows\start menu so now programs of similar groups (office, internet, etc) gets put in their respective folder. This greatly reduced the clutter when trying to launch programs from either pointui or quick menu.
Now the only time I draw out the stylus is when I need to scratch on the note - finger just can't do that, at least not yet
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Look at that! With links and everything! Nice effort helping the dude out!
Sms Chat
Audio notes Touch
Ultimate Launch
Ifonz
SPB mobile Shell
Moe5508 said:
Speak to Schaps - he's currently looking for beta testers for a new Touch Menu UI he's been developing for the past 6 months...
Link here: Schaps new Touch UI
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Too bad its not for herald or any other device.
Thank you for the apps. but I wanted that the developpers make one cab that complete changes the WM so all these apps in 1. Because If you activate the ui, you open the webbrowser, you sand a sms, .... you have space memory problems. For example: with my touch (p3450) if I use pointui home and then listen to music, the touch is very slow,..
So I would like that the developpers (I'll help them if I can and can be a beta-tester) make one app that COMPLETE changes the WM from the ui to the sms app, settings,...
Please, I hope you understand what I mean,thx.
What I'm getting from this is you want every single "touch" developer to get together and create what would essentially be one HUGE interface application, with everything built in? You're asking way too much here, just appreciate the fact that there are so many separate developers and applications for you to pick and choose from.
Edit:
Forgot to suggest waiting to buy a Touch Diamond or Touch Pro. That's my plan, haha.
^^ Yes you're a bit right... it's not necessary to use these apps but yes I want an everything built in application because when I install many touch apps, my PPC has some bugs and goes slowly...therefor I want a complete app
EDIT: haha I can't because I've bought another phone for 2 weeks^^ (n*kia N82)
wearefree said:
This is the collection I'm using on my tmobile wing right now:
0. Pointui 1.51a
http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
This is the most complete UI replacement for WM IMHO. Besides the Home Task Bar gives users a feel of consistency when launching apps, settings, etc. The new version is much more stable than previous versions, and almost bug free, almost. Check pointui forum for more details.
Be aware! Most of these have *opposite* vertical scrolling than pointui. However I think pointui scrolling is SUPERIOR because I can scroll much faster
1. S2U2 - for full screen caller ID (indispensable) and lock, so when unlock it goes to whatever it was before locking instead of Home
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381588
Pointui theme:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?p=4468#p4468
The analog clock is exactly the same - looks almost unreal, and also can be customized by pointtweaks as the default lock program
2. S2P - music player, exactly like what Iphone has (too close to iphone than what I like)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=37762
3. S2V - picture viewer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358187
can be used with parameter such as "\storage card\my documents\my pictures" (without quotes) to open that directory on default, also use to assign pictures to contacts
The nice thing about the slide 2 series is their task bar has a similar look with pointui task bar, sweet!
4. ThumbCal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373971
can be customized as the default calendar and task manager using pointtweaks:
http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1309&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
5. IContact 0.73
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395829
With theme support
Mac OSX theme or iphone theme:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398660
6. IPhone dialpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380466
Really iphony... very nice and big buttons and very responsive. Caution: last number redial doesn't work, smart dial works after hiding keypad. Hey who needs last number redial when the pointui call history is SOooo... nice.
7. Touchpal
http://www.cootek.com/download.aspx
You can always use the free version of it. Big buttons, and tons of extra functionality (copy, paste, internet suffix, symbols, etc). Best for fat fingers like what I have.
Caution: you may need SIP changer to make it default after soft reset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Not so finger friendly but still good enough with finger navigation:
1. Total commander
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
The most powerful file manager for WM, period. Using large icons it can be quite finger friendly, and with the combination of a touch-flo rom, no need for stylus. Also use as registry editor.
2. Opera Mini
http://www.operamini.com/
If you don't know what opera mini is then you're missing the good stuff. Works best with Esmertec Jbed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394227
Not so finger friendly at first glance but totally cool with pure finger operation.
Finger unfriendly software but still worth mentioning:
1. TCPMP
http://www.badongo.com/file/4055874
A project stopped a long time ago (because they went commercial, kinda like where pointui is leading). Good player for youtube and avi files when bundled with flashvideobundle
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1319431
However because d-pad works well during playback (up/down for volume, left/right for rewind/fast forward) therefore still handleable
2. QuickMenu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340358
Not finger friendly at all; but very powerful. Mainly use d-pad to operate but because it also has task manger function and assign OK to close programs, quite useful from day-to-day
I have also created folders in my windows\start menu so now programs of similar groups (office, internet, etc) gets put in their respective folder. This greatly reduced the clutter when trying to launch programs from either pointui or quick menu.
Now the only time I draw out the stylus is when I need to scratch on the note - finger just can't do that, at least not yet
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Thank you! hats off to you
Just saw announcement of Winterface shell from Vito, and I know some people use SPB shell... but also heard it can create problems.
What are the ups and downs? What alternatives are people using?
For reference, I use iLauncher, PhoneAlarm (for profiles, notifications), PocketBreeze for easy access to calendar, contacts, weather, and WkTask and SmallMenu (start menu replacement) for task management. Altogether, this works "fine" but some of the alternatives seem like a more integrated and polished interface.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!
For myself I use: Real VGA at 96dpi, Magic Button to show the running applications, Small Menu as a Start replacement and launcher assigned to my home button, and Handy Menu for access to soft reset, screen capture, or device OFF (other options are available). All of them have small footprints and runs well at 96dpi.
I use spb time to give me the alarm with big button and multi location times.
Then, spb phone suite for missed call/email/sms alert, turn in/off wifi/bt/data, phone profile.
For weather, I use sbsh pocket weather.
For launcher and safe mode soft reset, I use iLauncher.
For task switching, I use wktask.
For calendar, I use today Agenda which uses one line per item.
Works very well and is very flexible.
For calendar items, I use
Ultimate launcher with xmt using either a modified manilla style clock or modified x lucent theme, with wktask and quickmenu.
although the new today prog i linked to looks like it will have potential.
ocassionally especially if its sitting on my desk ill use the tempus13 swf manilla animated clock running fullscreen inside flashlite. must write a mortscript to trigger it automatically when docked.
all in 96dpi
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cktlcmd, i see you've finally bought a replacement for your uni... Im still waiting for mine, still havent decided on x7510 or be cheap and stick with x7501... anyway, good on you! So did you bury your uni?
I've switched to spb mobile shell with Diamond skin. It's very customizable and flexible.
eaglesteve said:
I've switched to spb mobile shell with Diamond skin. It's very customizable and flexible.
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Does SPB Mobile Shell work with Real VGA 96dpi in yours?
cuteangelika said:
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cktlcmd, i see you've finally bought a replacement for your uni... Im still waiting for mine, still havent decided on x7510 or be cheap and stick with x7501... anyway, good on you! So did you bury your uni?
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The best purchase I've done yet. I am happy with the quality and performance. Compared to my Universal, my X7510 is very stable even with hundreds of applications installed. It can survive a whole charge without having to soft reset. It is very solid with no creeking plastic sounds like the Universal. I still have not bought a micro SD card, and I still have tons of storage despite having 200 reference books in it. The screen size... I just love it. I never knew the importance of having a GPS till now.
Nowadays, I just use my Universal to play my music in my car. I hard resetted and only installed WM5torage 1.8 and SPB Time. It has become a permanant fixture in my dashboard. It still looks cool at night... especially with the screen on fully bright.
If you value the use of the buttons, go for the X7501 especially if you can buy a cheap brand new unit. Do read about the issues and how to solve the microdrive quirks though. I read that formatting the microdrive to FAT 32 using WM5torage prevents any data corruption. Never use the built-in format drive to format the microdrive.
On the other hand, since you are a first time Advantage seeker, going for the X7510 I think is the better purchase. I use my X7510 mainly on landscape, so buttons are no problem with mine. I can survive with just using the home button for launching any application via Small Menu. The 16GB SSD is a big plus. The keyboard is amazing. The only thing I can say about it is the absence of Soft Keys and Backlight. It's top has a rubberized coating, so no scratching of the unit can occur.
Here in the US, we have no option to buy a cheap brand new X7500 or X7501. All of them: X7500, X7501, and X7510 have the same price if you are purchasing them brand new, so it is most logical for me to go with the X7510.
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Does SPB Mobile Shell work with Real VGA 96dpi in yours?
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No. nowaday I'm using only 192dpi. I find that most of my applications look better in this dpi - from Opera mobile, phone, dictionary.... I can use my thumb (yes, not just finger but the big thumb) to do almost everything. There are a few applications which I wish I'm in 96dpi (such as office applications), but most of them work better in 192dpi.
It's funny that after using it for a while I'm so used to it that I wonder how I managed to see the tiny tiny characters in 96dpi. When I was using 96dpi, the feeling was reversed - I wonder how anyone could live with those gigantic taskbar!
Installing SPB mobile shell with diamond skin is a breath of fresh air for me for now. I don't know when I would get sick of this and change it again. I'm always looking for new toys so to speak, and each time I change I feel like I've just bought a completely new gadget.
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No. nowaday I'm using only 192dpi.
Installing SPB mobile shell with diamond skin is a breath of fresh air for me for now. I don't know when I would get sick of this and change it again. I'm always looking for new toys so to speak, and each time I change I feel like I've just bought a completely new gadget.
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I envy you with SPB Mobile Shell. I really like it too, but I love 96dpi more... can't have them all I guess.
eaglesteve said:
Installing SPB mobile shell with diamond skin is a breath of fresh air for me for now. I don't know when I would get sick of this and change it again. I'm always looking for new toys so to speak, and each time I change I feel like I've just bought a completely new gadget.
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How were you able to get SPB Mobile shell to work with the Diamond Skin (the one posted in the forums somewhere, right?) to work on a VGA phone? Or did someone convert in the the thread with the hundreds of pages?
polstein said:
How were you able to get SPB Mobile shell to work with the Diamond Skin (the one posted in the forums somewhere, right?) to work on a VGA phone? Or did someone convert in the the thread with the hundreds of pages?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409528&page=4
See post 39 by Resaponderman.
Cheers.
eaglesteve said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409528&page=4
See post 39 by Resaponderman.
Cheers.
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Thanks for the link - much more better then translating and working with the French site I was trying to download and play with yesterday.
Installed - wow, it's much darker then I thought. Will play for a day, but my initial reaction is I like the original better.
Really wish that the program was somehow made to allow compatibility with some of the beautiful QVGA themes and VGA themes.
How are you getting to the dialer with Diamond Skin loaded?
Hey eaglesteve, how are you bringing up the phone dialer? With the lack of hardware buttons on the x7510 and no soft keys in Diamond skinned mode, I am hitting the home button to bring up the base Spb screen, and then selecting Phone soft key from te sys tray. When I want to go back to Diamond I then select Spb Menu which is my other soft key. That is a few steps when one used to do it.
Do you have a better approach? Thanks.
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Hey eaglesteve, how are you bringing up the phone dialer? With the lack of hardware buttons on the x7510 and no soft keys in Diamond skinned mode, I am hitting the home button to bring up the base Spb screen, and then selecting Phone soft key from te sys tray. When I want to go back to Diamond I then select Spb Menu which is my other soft key. That is a few steps when one used to do it.
Do you have a better approach? Thanks.
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I pin the phone icon to the home tab. When I want to make call, I swipe my thumb upward to go to today and directly press the phone icon.
OK now I'm going to show my total ignorance. What do you mean by "pin" to the home tab.
Again thanks a bunch.
robjhellis said:
OK now I'm going to show my total ignorance. What do you mean by "pin" to the home tab.
Again thanks a bunch.
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Once you have installed SPB MObile shell, you will be able to see the following items in the Start/Setting/Personal/Today program under the Item Tab.
- spb mobile shell
- Home tab
- Time tab
- weather tab
- Dial tab 3
- Dial tab 2
- Dial tab
I only tick the Home tab.
The items on these home tab could represent the most recently used program so is dynamically added or removed, unless you "pin" them there permanently. To pin an application such as Phone on the home tab permanently, click and hold the tab until a menu pops up and choose Manage Pinned.. (the bottom item). You will be then allowed to tick the programs that you want to stay on the home tab. This is what I meant by "pin".
Thanks for that - now I get that piece.
My ability to finger swipe seems very hit and miss on my device. When I have the Diamond skin up mostly I can swipe right to left to flip the pages (which is not that useful seeing as there is a button to get to the same place) but swiping up and down to return to the Today screen works maybe 1 in 20 times - and the Today button gets me there anyway!
Any thoughts on why my screen gestures are not very responsive?
Also have you tried ThumbCal? If so I cannot get it to respond as the default calendar from within the Diamond Skin, although it works fine as the default from ouside of Diamond (ThumbCal has a setting to tick to make that happen).
Anyway, also watching out for any other alternate VGA skins. Have you noted any others on the forum yet? There is continued promise of more to come in certain of the "Development and Hacking" threads in the General section.
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Thanks for that - now I get that piece.
My ability to finger swipe seems very hit and miss on my device. When I have the Diamond skin up mostly I can swipe right to left to flip the pages (which is not that useful seeing as there is a button to get to the same place) but swiping up and down to return to the Today screen works maybe 1 in 20 times - and the Today button gets me there anyway!
Any thoughts on why my screen gestures are not very responsive?
Also have you tried ThumbCal? If so I cannot get it to respond as the default calendar from within the Diamond Skin, although it works fine as the default from ouside of Diamond (ThumbCal has a setting to tick to make that happen).
Anyway, also watching out for any other alternate VGA skins. Have you noted any others on the forum yet? There is continued promise of more to come in certain of the "Development and Hacking" threads in the General section.
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If you have already installed FtouchSL, then the most likely reason for the lack of responsiveness is that you have not excluded Spb mobile shell in your FtouchSL. It should be very fast.
I didn't know about FtouchSL relying entirely on HTC TouchFLO. I've downloaded it now and will try it out. Thanks for the tip.
Hey guys,
XDA developers obviously has some of the best mobile phone developers, so I thought I'd give suggestions for any bored coders on ideas I have for panels on the new 6.5 interface.
The WMP panel is pretty useful apart from the fact it only applies to WMP, there's a S2P alternative which I think is a good move but wouldn't it be better to create a program that lets you pick the player of your choice (e.g. S2P) from a list and then it will display the information and controls for that player. This means would mean less single players panels and a more all-in-one solution.
To this day I do NOT understand why tasks are such a pain in WinMo, on my old N95 tasks it displayed tasks on the today screen or atleast the amount I had stored. I think there's already something of this nature on the forum so ignore this one.
A quick lauch would be great considering the old 6.1 start menu was like that, but I'm not too sure if many people will want this feature back.
That's all of the ones I can think of, but if I get more I'll update this thread. Please state any thoughts or opinions you have .
150+ views and not one opinion! Geez.
I don't know if anyone has used the i8910 HD but the today screen work/looks really good and the fact there's a lock button on the today screen I think is a good move, maybe a lock panel on 6.5 would be a good step forward.
150+ views and not one opinion! Geez.
I don't know if anyone has used the i8910 HD but the today screen work/looks really good and the fact there's a lock button on the today screen I think is a good move, maybe a lock panel on 6.5 would be a good step forward.
There are already QuickLaunch plugins for Titanium.
The music plugin would be a great idea, but unfortunately, I think it would take up too much space and too much developing time. I think we should develop the ones we have first.
There's one thing I wish Microsoft added to 6.5, unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do about it on XDA. I think if we added the ability to hide the Titanium panel and easily open it again. Maybe if they took like the Hide/Show Desktop button from Windows 7 (the rectangular one) and added it to the left side of the home screen. So you hold it and slide it out, and the Titanium Menu unfolds... I'll have to work on mock ups of the idea in Photoshop.
I think an RSS plugin would be awesome
apreichner said:
There are already QuickLaunch plugins for Titanium.
The music plugin would be a great idea, but unfortunately, I think it would take up too much space and too much developing time. I think we should develop the ones we have first.
There's one thing I wish Microsoft added to 6.5, unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do about it on XDA. I think if we added the ability to hide the Titanium panel and easily open it again. Maybe if they took like the Hide/Show Desktop button from Windows 7 (the rectangular one) and added it to the left side of the home screen. So you hold it and slide it out, and the Titanium Menu unfolds... I'll have to work on mock ups of the idea in Photoshop.
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about showhide desktop button
if you have used manila 2d there was 1 such app(manila control) for which would hide manila and return to normal today screen and vice versa
maybe someone can do it with titanium
or maybe second today(the name of app is "second today") will work
Good to hear people's ideas.
The launcher does it use MortScript I was looking for something more stand alone.
For what it's worth, i would really like to see an Overclocking utility plug in for wm6.5 I use homescreen but i hate not to be able to see the cpu speeds and temperature in the plug in, i cant even tell if homescreen is working when its unchecked and the default titanium plug in is enabled.
O and O said:
Good to hear people's ideas.
The launcher does it use MortScript I was looking for something more stand alone.
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CLauncher uses Mortscript to set up but can be changed and be set up directly in the registry.
GLauncher from gullum does use an own Editor and supports more pages, moreover you can set one program to start from the panel, displayed on the left icon (pictures in the registry) and another set on the left softkey and displayed on the icon top right (icon in the registry).