changing messaging settings? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

on wm5 in messages at the bottom would be the menu on the right soft key and new message for the left soft key. on wm6 the left key has been replaced by delete, how can I change it back?

I was still wondering if this was possible

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319468&highlight=collection
look for "softkey changer" in that first post.

are you sure that changes the soft keys in the messages application?
I have a soft key changer on my phone already but it only changes the ones on the today screen.....I'll download this anyways and see if it's different, although I'm pretty sure I've downloaded it before

yup....just downloaded it again and it asked me if I wanted to replace the one that was already on my storage card.....I said yes (maybe it was an update) but it's the exact same thing that only allows you to change the soft keys on the today screen. (unless I'm missing something )

so I'm still looking to change this. I don't like the delete key there since I rarely delete my sms messages but always reply or make a new one.

so is this at all possible?

if i was you i would just start living with it...it now that big of a problem

well I am living with it.....I'd just prefer it to be the way it was on WM5

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Any way to rename a soft key?

I have just got my first Windows Mobile 5 Device, a MDA Vario. Its great, but Ive put Photo Contacts Pro on it, and changed the home screen soft key from contacts to Photocontactspro. Thing is, the app name is too long and gets cut off to "photo con"
Is there anyway to rename this softkey?
Thanks
You can do that in the registries:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\112 - right key
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\113 - left key
Values:
Default=Button label
Open=command
Cool, thanks
Hmmm
I wonder if you can help me.
I tried VITO ButtonManager and it has well and truly screwed up my softkey definitions for the Today Screen.
The right one seems to change what is does and the left one does not work at all.
I have disabled Button Manger but still cannot get the softkeys to work again.
How would I reset them to their original values?
Please bear in mind I have NEVER changed a registry key before?
Robin
Remapping SoftKeys
Robster, there is a complete incompatibility between our Wizard and VitoButtonMapper soft.
For interested people there is a specific soft to change Right and Left key applications (for instance, the right softkey is now launching TomTom instead of Contact).
Juste time to find where I may share this soft with you !
You could just follow the registry tweaks up top
It's not much more difficult from using Windows Explorer and notepad

Missing Back button in PIE

I recently just noticed that when I browsed using Pocket Internet Explorer (PIE), the "Back" button on the bottom left hand side is no longer shown. It only shows the "Favorites" button, thus I can NOT go back to the previous web page.
I didn't make any registry changes or anything like that and the only programs that have the capability to changes hardware button settings are SpB Plus and SoftKey and they don't have the option to change the PIE application button.
Anyone know how I can bring the "Back" button back?
It only shows "favorites" when there is nothing to go back to. ie the first page of the session. As soon as you navigate to the next page it changes to "back"
That is correct. But what I meant is that even after I navigate to a website, the button still shows as "Favorites".
I.e. From "Home" screen, go to cnn.com, then go to yahoo.com. The "Back" button is not shown and I can't go back to cnn.com
sparkyxda said:
It only shows "favorites" when there is nothing to go back to. ie the first page of the session. As soon as you navigate to the next page it changes to "back"
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lanwarrior said:
That is correct. But what I meant is that even after I navigate to a website, the button still shows as "Favorites".
I.e. From "Home" screen, go to cnn.com, then go to yahoo.com. The "Back" button is not shown and I can't go back to cnn.com
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Things to check:
Have you changed any setting that disables the PIE cache.
Is PIE able to cache pages eg is it to storage card and does it's folder still exist and is SD card reachable.
Perhaps try changing cache location?
Mike
Yes, I did change the PIE cache location to "Storage Card". That folder exist in File Explorer and I can see in "Storage Card" that there is a "Temporary Internet Explorer" folder.
I tried changing the size of the cache, move to "Extended ROM" and ROM storage, but to no avail.
I removed (but not uninstall) WisBar, thinking it may change it, but also to no effect. However, I don't think WisBar did anything to it, since it only skin the application.
I am thinking that some application may messed up PIE, but all the apps that I installed are the same ones I have installed in my old MDA and there was no issue on the MDA. If there is some registry change I can apply to fix it, do let me know.
Mmmm.....
Couple of things I'm curious about - SpB Plus and SoftKey. I don't have either of these. But It's worth setting back any setting you have entered since your problem developed. Just because it has no specific setting does not mean that a seemingly non related change has not caused problem (for example if you set smooth scrolling in PIE using say Tweaks2k2 you will find the tab behaviour when sending SMS messages has changed!). Do not just uninstall these apps as this will not reset the registry changes they may have made.
The reason I asked about cache was simply that with no cached pages to return to there would be no back option available,
Of course you will have a nice SPB backup or two available to restore with won't you!!!? I play around with mine so much (!) that I keep several backups at various stages of application installation and over time.
Also curious to know if your history is being recorded in PIE drop down list in URL box. At a pinch you could use this as a rough sort of back button.
I have not looked into all the registry keys for PIE. This forum Wiki or indeed the wiki for some of the other devices may already have the keys mapped out . I did find info on setting cache size.
In the end it may be simpler to hard reset if those backups are not available.
Mike
Thanks for the detailed info, Mike.
I did disable SpB Plus, but to no effect. At the end, I uninstalled WisBar, Spb Plus, and SoftKey but nothing change either.
Yes, I can do hard reset, but I am trying to avoid that because I have to re-install everything. I have a "base" backup using SpB backup, but it still requires me to install other program as the other daily backup sets may already have corrupted PIE registry.
I am hoping that I can do something about this via the registry, unless this is something that really require hard reset just like the issue I have with duplicate notifications. i.e. after soft reset, the alarm reminder and sound will start although no appointment or task is scheduled at that time.
Now I know why PDA is not popular for most people.. it's just too damn fragile! And I used Windows CE since the time of Cassiopeia...

[APP]SoftKey Manager 1.1 HTC Diamond Edition Beta (Free) 04/08/2008

A freeware SoftKey Editor for Windows Mobile, allowing you to change the defaults for your Today screen softkeys.
Features
* Free and free to use in Roms!
* Set Today Screen Left and Right SoftKey Names and Shortcuts.
* Easily set a SoftKey to anything in your Start Menu.
* Easily set a SoftKey to any file on your device.
* Easily set a SoftKey to an Internet Explorer Favorite.
* Reset to Defaults.
* Built in Soft Reset.
* Program Size Only 40Kb!
http://www.fantasticbytes.com/products.php
For HTC Touch Diamond Edition see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2485292#post2485292
Awesome contribution!! Will try thanx.
Thanks for the program.
Alkhal said:
Awesome contribution!! Will try thanx.
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That was quick
Enjoy!
Excellent contribution. Thank you very much.
If you create a rom with SoftKey Manager, you can post a link to it here if you like.
Been using it for couple weeks now.
Really like Reset to Defaults and Soft Reset option!
Excellent software .Thank you very much!
thanks a lot for this
nice apps....thanks for this.....
spacebar / return key / back?
Is there a way to set the soft keys to enter a "space" or input a "return" or (not as important) make it do "back" like in the sony Clies?
I am using Korean version of Touch Dual and the person who localized it for Korean is clearly a phone person and NOT a pda person -- s/he eliminated the space bar hard key and put a "phone vibrate" mode in instead .
This means i am typing a new appt or memo and every time there is a space, i have take out the stylus and peck at the spacebar/enter on the onscreen keyboard... which oblivates the advantage of having a hard T9 keyboard for most pda apps (although not important for making phone calls). .
actually i need a smiley that is crying b/c i am soooo frustrated...
(i would rather remap space/return to the pie key but everything i have tried on button remapping has not been working, so in desperation i am willing to give up the soft keys just to have a space input so i can lay my stylus to rest..)
This is even better than what I just downloaded (another softkey changer) I love this place!
Very nice application. Does what it's supposed to do in the most efficient way.
How about adding an option so that softkeys on start page of TouchFlo3D on Diamond can be changed too?
They can also be changed by registry keys, only different than the default today page. However, noone has written an application to do it.
SoftKey Manager can not do something like that yet.
However use a process manager and check the running processes on your phone one of them is probably causing your keys to be altered.
If you can not find the cause let me know, maybe I can help you out.
Hope you resolve this issue and fully enjoy your phone soon.
laborfrog said:
Is there a way to set the soft keys to enter a "space" or input a "return" or (not as important) make it do "back" like in the sony Clies?
I am using Korean version of Touch Dual and the person who localized it for Korean is clearly a phone person and NOT a pda person -- s/he eliminated the space bar hard key and put a "phone vibrate" mode in instead .
This means i am typing a new appt or memo and every time there is a space, i have take out the stylus and peck at the spacebar/enter on the onscreen keyboard... which oblivates the advantage of having a hard T9 keyboard for most pda apps (although not important for making phone calls). .
actually i need a smiley that is crying b/c i am soooo frustrated...
(i would rather remap space/return to the pie key but everything i have tried on button remapping has not been working, so in desperation i am willing to give up the soft keys just to have a space input so i can lay my stylus to rest..)
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The scope for SoftKey Manager is for all Windows Mobile devices not just HTC devices.
I have not yet tried TouchFlo3D, if you can post the registry keys maybe I can write a SoftKey Manager just for Diamond phones.
aydc said:
Very nice application. Does what it's supposed to do in the most efficient way.
How about adding an option so that softkeys on start page of TouchFlo3D on Diamond can be changed too?
They can also be changed by registry keys, only different than the default today page. However, noone has written an application to do it.
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You're right, these keys are specific to the HTC Touch Diamond, but it would be so easy to implement it. Just put a check box named "Diamond mode" and you'll make current and future Diamond users very happy. I can beta-test it if you want.
Here are the reg keys which have to be modified:
under HKLM/Software/HTC/manila/
HomeLSKText ....(name of the left softkey)
HomeLSKPath ....(path to the application of left softkey)
HomeRSKPath ....(name of the right softkey)
HomeRSKText ....(path to the application of right softkey)
I made a special edition for Diamond users
Please test and let me know if it works.
Thanks
P.S. If you need a lightweight Launch Application that doesn't take much memory take a look at http://www.fantasticbytes.com/lminfo.php
Edited: Uploaded Wrong Version, Uploading new ones now, Fixed now
aydc said:
You're right, these keys are specific to the HTC Touch Diamond, but it would be so easy to implement it. Just put a check box named "Diamond mode" and you'll make current and future Diamond users very happy. I can beta-test it if you want.
Here are the reg keys which have to be modified:
under HKLM/Software/HTC/manila/
HomeLSKText ....(name of the left softkey)
HomeLSKPath ....(path to the application of left softkey)
HomeRSKPath ....(name of the right softkey)
HomeRSKText ....(path to the application of right softkey)
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I have tested your Diamond version with both a Start Menu item and with selecting an .exe directly. In both cases, your application works perfectly. After a soft reset the names of the softkeys are changed and clicking the softkeys brings up the right application.
Thank you very much. I think you have the first Diamond softkey changer on the market (even though it's free) . Let Diamond users know about it on the Diamond forum.
Thanks,
Please let me know if reset to defaults works. If it does then I will post a link on the Diamond forum.
aydc said:
I have tested your Diamond version with both a Start Menu item and with selecting an .exe directly. In both cases, your application works perfectly. After a soft reset the names of the softkeys are changed and clicking the softkeys brings up the right application.
Thank you very much. I think you have the first Diamond softkey changer on the market (even though it's free) . Let Diamond users know about it on the Diamond forum.
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Hi,
Reset to defaults at first seemed to have no effect on my Diamond. On the application screen, my previous settings stayed. However, I did a soft reset to be sure, and after the soft reset the default soft keys came up.
So return to defaults only works after a soft reset. I think after the defaults button is clicked you should ask the user directly to soft reset.
Works great but quick question.
When in phone screen, I've got video call in left softkey and menu in the right softkey.
I changed the left softkey to contacts but it changed the left softkey on the home page.
How do I change the left softkey while in phone screen?
Thanks,
Mark

How Do You Change the Soft Key Shortcuts at the Bottom of the Screen?

Not the silver horizontal buttons, but the buttons at the bottom of the screen. How do you change?
There are lots of possibilities.
Easiest way is to use SK-Tools. This can do a lot of things and everyone should have.
It can be changed in the registry, but it is easier to let SK-Tools do this job, than to search and do it yourself.
Then there was a small freeware here at the developers since years HTC-Soft-Button-Changer or something like this. This should work too.
If you want to go down the registry route:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys
112 is left soft key.
113 is right soft key.
(default) string is the caption. I've changed my left key from 'contacts' to 'New'
Open string is the command to execute on key press. Delete this and create a new Open string with the executable you want to run.
For some strange reason, my right softkey keeps resetting itself to be <Today>. I have manually changed it back to <Right Softkey> multiple times and reset it, and it still changes back
Anyone seeing the same thing?
if the phone is in the middle of something (say opening opera) and I press the right button (to switch orientation) I get the today menu, however if I press it again it works as expected.
doody said:
For some strange reason, my right softkey keeps resetting itself to be <Today>. I have manually changed it back to <Right Softkey> multiple times and reset it, and it still changes back
Anyone seeing the same thing?
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Yeah mine keeps reverting to <Today> but the left key keeps whatever assignment I give it.
steelydan said:
Yeah mine keeps reverting to <Today> but the left key keeps whatever assignment I give it.
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I think this is TF3D related, I haven't had a problem since I reverted to stock rom.
For the life of me, I can't find the option in SK Tools to change the on screen soft keys? Anyone know where it is? Is it only in the paid version? I am testing out the trial version to see if anything is even useful there.
SCtud said:
For the life of me, I can't find the option in SK Tools to change the on screen soft keys? Anyone know where it is? Is it only in the paid version? I am testing out the trial version to see if anything is even useful there.
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You only get 6 options in the unpaid version so it's unlikely to be there.
It's under Tune Up then buttons Tab (which is the 9th tab)
Thanks! It is actually there in the trial version, but i did not see it buried in the sub menus. it looks like SPB Shell (panel version) overrides the settings there and does not have it's own setting to change. I guess I'll have to live with those for now.

Modding the SMS\MMS Screen

Does anyone know how I might be able to change the default lower toolbar buttons in the SMS\MMS screen? At present the options are "Delete" & "Menu" and I want the 'delete' to be replaced with 'New SMS', it seems daft to have a 3 stage process just to send a quick SMS. A new message menu would be an acceptable compromise but I'd prefer a direct link to an SMS since I use those the most by far.
Are there any registry mods that I can implement to do this?
I'm using the official 6.1 WWE rom by the way.
I use a program called WM5 New Menu and used M2DC to make my left soft key launch it from the today screen. Basically it allows me in one press to create new SMS, Appointment, Contact etc. Its quite configurable.
i know what he wants, and that's not it. isn't there some way to change it within the program?

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