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ok guys i bought a sprint touch (vogue) phone about a 3 months ago when i started having problems with my older phone. well i finally decided to activate this new vogue phone and i cannot get good reception. Now compared to my old sonyo this phone stays searching for service almost all day. While the old sonyo would have three bars of signal. i started doing some searching online and found out that these phones were bad for signal reception. After all that searching i want to unlock my phone and install the newest rom, radio rom, and see if it will help my phone. i tried to return to the store but they will only give me 25 dollars for the phone and that made me very mad. At the moment it does not work and i have really nothing to loose if the phone becomes a brick.
i have downloaded the NuVogue and NSFan roms plus a lot of cabs. What i do understand completely is do i need to install a radio rom or is there one already in the Roms. if there is no radio rom in these roms then which one is recommended?
thanks
If you bought a sprint phone then it probably has a sprint stock radio. Does it show the sprint logo at boot?
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yes it does have sprint logo at start.
sprintvogue said:
yes it does have sprint logo at start.
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You can try reflashing a radio or rom with a radio, but I doubt it will help much... have you EVER been able to call with that phone? How did you provision it? If it's a new vogue from sprint(?) why won't they give you a full refund or a warranty replacement?
i cannot return it because i did not buy it from sprint store. i bought it from my friend but he did not tell me he was having problems with the phone. what should i do.
i do not know what else to do?
i really like the phone but i cannot get any reception, that is my problem. i do not use it for text, music, or online. i just need it for business.
any suggestions would be great.
thanks
Have you tried *228?(or whatever the Sprint equivalent is)
sprintvogue said:
ok guys i bought a sprint touch (vogue) phone about a 3 months ago when i started having problems with my older phone. well i finally decided to activate this new vogue phone and i cannot get good reception. Now compared to my old sonyo this phone stays searching for service almost all day. While the old sonyo would have three bars of signal. i started doing some searching online and found out that these phones were bad for signal reception. After all that searching i want to unlock my phone and install the newest rom, radio rom, and see if it will help my phone. i tried to return to the store but they will only give me 25 dollars for the phone and that made me very mad. At the moment it does not work and i have really nothing to loose if the phone becomes a brick.
i have downloaded the NuVogue and NSFan roms plus a lot of cabs. What i do understand completely is do i need to install a radio rom or is there one already in the Roms. if there is no radio rom in these roms then which one is recommended?
thanks
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So, the device stays looking for signal? Does it ever get at least 1 bar of signal? I have an idea, which may sound a bit far fetched, but it may be the case. At one point in time, I remember trying to replace the E$N of my device with an MEID (turned into pseudo E$N). Needless to say, this cannot be done, and my device stayed looking for service forever. I have a feeling that maybe the E$N was changed and it was either input wrong, or simply someone tried to play stupid and replaced it with a pE$N.
Check for the E$N behind the battery and compare it to the one in the system (you can check this by going into PST, you don't even need the MSL as you are not editing the programing parameters of the device).
ok i took a look at the ESN numbers in back of the phone and i got this:
************
then i went to settings and looked in device information i get this:
*************
Does this mean anything?
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ok i took a look at the ESN numbers in back of the phone and i got this:
************
then i went to settings and looked in device information i get this:
********
Does this mean anything?
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Unless you mistyped the 36A152D number, it looks like it is not complete.
Decimal conversion from the one you gave me (without the dash, of course) should give you a Hex number that is totally different.
My guess is that your friend tried to change the E$N of the device and did it wrong/used an invalid serial. If you put an invalid E$N, the phone will stay searching for networks forever, which is what is happening with your device. You have to change the ESN back to the original (the one behind the battery), but if it was changed, I have a feeling it is probably black-listed by Sprint. I would call Sprint and ask if the device with the number you gave me can be activated on their network.
BTW, I edited the numbers you gave me to protect your device's serial.
ok i took a look again at the numbers and i did miss type. there is suppose to be an 8 between the 5 and 2.
ok so then i need to go back to sprint? What should i tell them? Do i tell them to put me back to the other EsN like the one on my phone?
sprintvogue said:
ok i took a look again at the numbers and i did miss type. there is suppose to be an 8 between the 5 and 2.
ok so then i need to go back to sprint? What should i tell them? Do i tell them to put me back to the other EsN like the one on my phone?
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Don't even talk to them about changing ESN. Remember that this is an illegal practice in most countries around the world (IMEI, MEID, and ESN for those who use other serial numbers). I have a feeling that you are better off trying to reactivate your older phone and try to get the guy who sold it to give you your money back.
i think you are right.
i will do that first.
thanks guys.
First I want to say this site has a lot of talent on it and you guys should really be proud of what you accomplish and the benefits others get from them.
I started with a Sprint Galaxy Tab purchased day one from a local best buy. I recently bricked it by not following the directions to a T. All devices from Samsung, well at least my vibrant and this Tab have a factory warranty of a year from Samsung. I have used it for two vib replacements and then this Tablet which I replaced today. Basically below is the information I received from SPRINT moments ago over the phone to activate my device. My situation is unique because I have active service, but not on this tab so upon turning it on the activation process was different then initially on day 1 and I also rooted it with Super One Click prior to trying to activate it. The Sprint CS had me do this and what it caused was the device to initiate the entire data network configuration process all over but in a different fashion. MAYBE this is all already known or maybe this can give insight, see below::
Opened into the Memo app from the home screen or your app drawer
In the Search memos bar type Sym##488798# ----> brings you into a service menu and TerminalMode is stated in the toolbar and TouchHere at the bottom of the menu screen.
TerminalMode
Service Menu
View *
Edit
Done
[ Touch Here ]
For this case View was chosen and it had the asterisks beside it {see above}, but if you select Edit which was done after hanging up with the Sprint CS your device phone number displays.
In View the digits {sorry} pressed where
510684492? I think 3 but there is only 10 possibilities. I think 3 maybe 4, sorry guys I got distracted and don't want to mislead anyone but the first 9 are spot on.
Let me know if there is any worth in this and/or anymore info I can supply. Strangest part was that during a reboot the Sprint CS asked me "Do these things make phone calls?" I'm thinking your the Sprint CS and you know that it doesn't or isn't suppose to. Why ask me now.... What info may you just have given me. Have Fun!!
a lot of reps are retarded and just follow a guide on how to do stuff, I work for AT&T I can't tell you how many times people call in and say they been transfered around 10 times because no one can fix a simple problem like "device unlock" etc, but anyway I have a Sprint Tab and I typed that in my memo search nothing change... maybe I'm doing something wrong? I was just curious to look around! lol
I'm not sure what this is supposed to accomplish, but I'm dying to play with the guts of my tab, and since there are no ROMS out there, thought I'd give it a shot... Nothin' doin'. I'd love to know more!
Got a Sprint SPH-P100.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
All sprint device's that connect to the network and have any sort of plan have a phone number, including aircards and the tab, now just because it has a number does not mean it is provisioned on the network to make calls, but if someone could maybe add a phone apk to their rom to test it, you may be able to make calls, but there also may news to be some kernel adjustments or other changes for it to work but you could always try.
Sent from my CM7 EVO.
The Sph-p100 (sprint tab) will not make calls (CDMA calls. Voip is fine) on the sprint network as it is filtered by imei.
If you change the imei to, say, one for a SGS, it works fine.
Also it would need a different type of service plan than just data.
What!!! I can change the imei to a evo and get 69.99 unlimited everything??? Its retarded to limit these just because its a tab
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There's an activation for the Verizon Tab that causes the tablet to make a voice call for whatever reason. During that time I can hear the call progress via the speakers and a green phone indicator lights up in the status bar. Given that, I figure it's entirely possible for the Verizon Tab to make voice calls. Is there no such process for the Sprint Tab?
markgamber said:
There's an activation for the Verizon Tab that causes the tablet to make a voice call for whatever reason. During that time I can hear the call progress via the speakers and a green phone indicator lights up in the status bar. Given that, I figure it's entirely possible for the Verizon Tab to make voice calls. Is there no such process for the Sprint Tab?
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There is no such process for Sprint. But those switching Sprint or Verizon tabs to metroPCS have no problem making calls.
How hard is it to switch to metroPCs and what's their network speeds like
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Call and ask. Metro is very local so it depends. Check craigslist or howardsforums.
You got a contract?
Metro is not the cheapest way.
Just for future reference changing your ESN, IMEI and what have you is illegal and highly frowned upon by XDA, and is best not discussed as quite a few threads have been closed because of it.
Now on a lighter note, yes the Verizon Tab does make an initial call to activate itself but that is just their way of OTA programming the device, where as Sprint does the same thing, just without an actual voice call it uses a more discrete and software based method.
So in conclusion I can't definitively rule out being able to make calls with then over CDMA but I do know that both carriers have a lot of authentications that the device makes to do anything that will most likely reject your attempt based on your ESN and the whitelist/blacklist your ESN is tied to.
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The ## number you pressed is your msl it is unique for every device on the network. It worked for you and will not work for others for this reason. You can however call sprint and ask them for this number, I myself have called and asked for mine for almost all of my devices. It all depends on how and who you ask. However please note that in here you have total control over the settings and can really do some damage if you don't know what you are doing so be careful.
noWingsjustHorns said:
First I want to say this site has a lot of talent on it and you guys should really be proud of what you accomplish and the benefits others get from them.
I started with a Sprint Galaxy Tab purchased day one from a local best buy. I recently bricked it by not following the directions to a T. All devices from Samsung, well at least my vibrant and this Tab have a factory warranty of a year from Samsung. I have used it for two vib replacements and then this Tablet which I replaced today. Basically below is the information I received from SPRINT moments ago over the phone to activate my device. My situation is unique because I have active service, but not on this tab so upon turning it on the activation process was different then initially on day 1 and I also rooted it with Super One Click prior to trying to activate it. The Sprint CS had me do this and what it caused was the device to initiate the entire data network configuration process all over but in a different fashion. MAYBE this is all already known or maybe this can give insight, see below::
Opened into the Memo app from the home screen or your app drawer
In the Search memos bar type Sym##488798# ----> brings you into a service menu and TerminalMode is stated in the toolbar and TouchHere at the bottom of the menu screen.
TerminalMode
Service Menu
View *
Edit
Done
[ Touch Here ]
For this case View was chosen and it had the asterisks beside it {see above}, but if you select Edit which was done after hanging up with the Sprint CS your device phone number displays.
In View the digits {sorry} pressed where
510684492? I think 3 but there is only 10 possibilities. I think 3 maybe 4, sorry guys I got distracted and don't want to mislead anyone but the first 9 are spot on.
Let me know if there is any worth in this and/or anymore info I can supply. Strangest part was that during a reboot the Sprint CS asked me "Do these things make phone calls?" I'm thinking your the Sprint CS and you know that it doesn't or isn't suppose to. Why ask me now.... What info may you just have given me. Have Fun!!
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bmxrider4444 said:
Just for future reference changing your ESN, IMEI and what have you is illegal and highly frowned upon by XDA, and is best not discussed as quite a few threads have been closed because of it.
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It is not Illegal. IF XDA is frowning on it no one has ever mentioned it to me. Furthermore I apologize in advance.
As I posted in another thread, it is not illegal.
1) Legally named 'PCS' (Remember SprintPCS and MetroPCS) commonly called CDMA devices have NEVER been regulated as to changing ESN's. Only GSM (SIM) devices have. And ESN modification of such devices was repealed in 2003.
Relevant sections are Title 47 CFR 22.919. This WAS the section that held the language about ESN Changing. It has been repealed. (page 6 (p.77180) left column bottom.) Note that it is in Part 22. Part 22 only regulates GSM devices. But PCS devices are Title 47 CFR 24
Readers may Go HERE and select Title 47. Then the two sections as they wish.
I bought y boosted evo and I dont have it in front of me, I cant figure out what number i have to give them to activate. i gave the imei but that isnt working. Can someone simply write the steps to.finding the esn imei info so i csn activate.
Many thanks
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The ESN/IMEI should be on the back of the phone, right under the battery... there are 2 IMEI's: HEX and DEC, they both represent the same.
On boost mobile, the stock esn isn't on the phone so the one on the back of the phone isn't programmed onto the phone anymore
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Activating an Evo on Boost
Tell him not to give boost the numbers behind the battery.....thats for the Evo........he can find the # for the DEC (and activate it online) by pressing ##786#....those are the numbers of the donor phone.
The best thing to do is not to talk to a boost rep.....if it does not do a hands free activation then he will need to follow the instructions on the boost website ...activating a new handset and manually go into settings/system updates/update profile......good luck
After he enters the dec number the screen will show the rest of the numbers for that donor phone......the worst thing he can do is to talk to a rep
cardsandchips said:
Tell him not to give boost the numbers behind the battery.....thats for the Evo........he can find the # for the DEC (and activate it online) by pressing ##786#....those are the numbers of the donor phone.
The best thing to do is not to talk to a boost rep.....if it does not do a hands free activation then he will need to follow the instructions on the boost website ...activating a new handset and manually go into settings/system updates/update profile......good luck
After he enters the dec number the screen will show the rest of the numbers for that donor phone......the worst thing he can do is to talk to a rep
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My cuz just did the same thing and it worked. Thanks!
So a few days ago, I got a Droid X through NoMoreRack.com (well, my girlfriend did, for me) for about 70 bucks, And Verizon rejected to activate it. Claiming that the device is Reported Lost/Stolen (AKA a Bad ESN). And when I told my gf, she got really pissed and wanted to return and exchange it, but then she'll get a device with a ACTUAL screwed up esn (youll see why its not Actiual) So to save stress. I went and emailed Motorola then I did a live chat with 3 different people, that is then when i am told to do a system update (2/3 times) 1st time after they said to do so, i left, the chat and realized that the System Uptades button was grey (i was on wifi and had my google account set up) then the second time i was told that the esn was fine, then the last time they said to call, But i have no time to. And now im stuck. Any help?
nxhappy said:
So a few days ago, I got a Droid X through NoMoreRack.com (well, my girlfriend did, for me) for about 70 bucks, And Verizon rejected to activate it. Claiming that the device is Reported Lost/Stolen (AKA a Bad ESN). And when I told my gf, she got really pissed and wanted to return and exchange it, but then she'll get a device with a ACTUAL screwed up esn (youll see why its not Actiual) So to save stress. I went and emailed Motorola then I did a live chat with 3 different people, that is then when i am told to do a system update (2/3 times) 1st time after they said to do so, i left, the chat and realized that the System Uptades button was grey (i was on wifi and had my google account set up) then the second time i was told that the esn was fine, then the last time they said to call, But i have no time to. And now im stuck. Any help?
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updating is not going to change the esn, and verizon is the only carrier that is going to care, the esn is blacklisted on their system. easy way to check the esn go here http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do
and find Enter your Device ID to check eligibility.
I’m not sure if anyone will be able to help but I thought I’d ask. I had my phone replaced under warranty for the volume buttons sticking in and not being able to click them any more. Got the new device in and it wouldn’t activate. It registers the SIM card and goes to no service. I called Verizon and tried to get them to help me activate it and spent 2 hours on the phone with them and tried EVERYTHING they could think of. Entering IMEI numbers, SIM numbers, factory reset, and a new sim card.
In the end they told me that when I turn the phone on the IMEI number they entered changes to a different one from what the phone reports and is failing activation. They had me try a new sim card to make sure the sim wasn’t broken and that still didn’t work. Called Motorola spent a while on the phone with them trying the same things and they agreed it was a rare case and that I would need a second replacement phone.
I received the new (third) phone yesterday and it is having the same problem as the second phone. Won’t activate and when its powered on the IMEI number on the Verizon side is reports something different then what any of the other phones are showing. (so now between the 2 phones I have 4 different IMEIs reported (the assigned 2 the phone shows me and the 2 made up ones that the network switches to when I turn on the phone)
Now Motorola is suggesting another replacement and Verizon has stopped helping me and on my last call they transferred me to the Motorola support number. Has anyone seen anything like this?
Is there anything I can say to help try and get this resolved other than waiting for a fourth phone that may or may not work?