I recently have gone through two different Body Glove Sport Stereo headphones with some issues. I can't decide if I have another faulty headset or if the phone audio connector is the issue. The body glove headset is similar to the headset that comes with the 8125, but it looked more comfortable.
The problem I am having is this, the headphones only play in the right side. Messing with the plug on the headset results in some quick burst of audio on the left side and pulling it out a tad gives me some faint left audio and the right side audio goes out completely. It seems the plug and jack don't quite jive... anyone else experience this? It comes with an adapter for the "bigger jack" and upon trying one of my girls iPods, they work fine with the adapter in the mix.
My application is this... I listen to MP3's while riding my motorcycle and the earphones that came with the phone hurt my ears after a while. Plus they don't have the greatest audio quality. Looking for a comfy replacement, but the above issue has me scratcing my head.
Here is a link to the headphones: here
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i think you have the wrong adapter. i tried using the slvrs adapter with my 8125 and it did not work same prob as you. i went to radioshack and got one from there and it did. im most absolutely sure is the inner wiring. what happens is that there's also a connection for a microphone on the 8125 so some adapters dont work.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~Cingular_8125-559~area~accessories~item~PPCPADPT21.htm
ps my friend got a mono one at radio shack and it worked for him both sides. hes not a audiophile but you get the idea, it has to be the connection of your plug.
The headphones in addition to be being stereo, have the microphone too, I think the paragraph in the page you linked clears up a few questions for me:
Most manufacturers create their devices allowing audio compatibility with only their specific brand headset or headphones. We have designed and engineered several different types of audio adapters to accommodate a variety of devices. Our unique audio adapters give you the freedom to use any standard 2.5/3.5 mm. 3 conductor headset and/or your favorite set of headphones.
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It would seem although the Body Glove headset uses the 2.5mm jack, the internals of the 8125 are off enough that a select few aftermarket stereo headsets with mics will work with the phone. Interesting.
Upon further examination of the jack, it is different than the one that came with the phone. In spite of the BodyGlove being a stereo headet with a mic... just like the one that comes with the phone, the connector is different enough to not with aftermarket stuff I guess. Those dirty rascals!!!
The connector on the left is the one that comes with the 8125, the one on the right is the BodyGlove.
Searched and found this old thread. I went to connect my 8125 Wizard to my cars 3.5 jack using a standard adapter and it only came left channel.
Is there a more cost effective proprietary four-conductor jack to a 3.5 mm converter than posted above at PPC Techs? I was hoping to spend a few dollars.
I'm actually using my old Ngages audio cable to get Stereo sound out of my car stereo. It works but sometimes I can't use the mic on the cell phone to talk.
When it works it's really cool, but otherwise I gotta unplug the cable and use it like a regular phone during phone calls.
Hi there, I am looking for a mini-usb to 2.5mm headset adapter for this lovely new thing. I snagged an adapter at a truckstop that said it would work with razr et al. however it doesn't work with this, are the pinouts different perhaps? If so can someone recommend where I can get an adapter for it? Two reasons why I am searching. First my workphone is a nextel i265, which means no BT, and second because I would prefer to have one headset and swap between both phones, and given that statement, I absolutely LOVE the Jabra wired headsets. So please and thanks in advance for any kind of help that can be provided.
aj41581 said:
Hi there, I am looking for a mini-usb to 2.5mm headset adapter for this lovely new thing. I snagged an adapter at a truckstop that said it would work with razr et al. however it doesn't work with this, are the pinouts different perhaps? If so can someone recommend where I can get an adapter for it? Two reasons why I am searching. First my workphone is a nextel i265, which means no BT, and second because I would prefer to have one headset and swap between both phones, and given that statement, I absolutely LOVE the Jabra wired headsets. So please and thanks in advance for any kind of help that can be provided.
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Normal stereo headphones are 3,5 mm, I guess you'll want those.. In this case check this out: 11 pin to 3,5 mm
Another one
if you want 2,5 mm: Search better then me I can't find it
Actually looking for the 2.5, not currently caring about the stereo capabilities of the headset, if I want an mp3 player, I will carry around the much less fragile ipod Nano. I am looking just for a normal headset for hands free use while driving a car, and unfortunately, it just doesn't look like, at least first glance, that I am going to be able to use the same headset for both, and will just need two different physical headsets *sigh*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190139663238
that will be perfect for you, you can use it to talk AND listen to music.
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if i were to use this jack... will i be able to use the vmoda duo headphones to answer phone calls?
1. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm. (I think one actually came with the HTC version, but not with the AT&T Tilt - although the Tilt manual insists that it's there!)
2. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm with a built in mic for handsfree operation too.
3. I've seen 3.5mm bluetooth adapters so you can eliminate cables completely.
I'll be mounting my phone above my dash and my aux-in port is in my center console. As such, I'd like a wireless solution (like #3), but I'd also like hands-free operation (like #2). I know such a thing exists (I found one on eBay), but surely there's a more elegant solution out there? Not one shamelessly parading around as a iPod shuffle?
Does anyone know of a hands-free device that connects to the phone via bluetooth and has a standard 3.5mm audio out? The only one I've found is parading around like an iPod shuffle - more than a little tacky.
i have one, it does look a bit like a shuffle though... works great though and even came with a BT transmiter that you can plug into anything with a 3.5mm jack and it will stream it with A2DP ( the receiver/headset is A2DP also) all for like $35 shipped. i monted it in my motorcycle helmet so i have wireless tunes plus the call come through both speackers so its actually intelligable while riding
IMHO its worth putting up with the shuffle-esque look for the price and features
This looks good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875156001
Tritton AX Bluestream
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1. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm. (I think one actually came with the HTC version, but not with the AT&T Tilt - although the Tilt manual insists that it's there!)
2. I've seen adapters from MiniUSB to 3.5mm with a built in mic for handsfree operation too.
3. I've seen 3.5mm bluetooth adapters so you can eliminate cables completely.
I'll be mounting my phone above my dash and my aux-in port is in my center console. As such, I'd like a wireless solution (like #3), but I'd also like hands-free operation (like #2). I know such a thing exists (I found one on eBay), but surely there's a more elegant solution out there? Not one shamelessly parading around as a iPod shuffle?
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Well, it is a bit more expensive, but there are headunits with integrated Bluetooth stereo and handsfree capability.
Parrot makes one (relatively expensive). I think Blaupunkt does too.
Sony has two models with built in stereo and handsfree Bluetooth integration, the MEX-BT2500 and MEX-BT5000. The 2500 is probably the least expensive solution that still has a CD player, I have it in my car and love it, although I admittedly have not even attempted to use the handsfree functionality (due to the fact that it is installed in an incredibly noisy convertible). I use the headunit for BT stereo and a Plantronics 655 for handsfree conversations.
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Well, it is a bit more expensive, but there are headunits with integrated Bluetooth stereo and handsfree capability.
Parrot makes one (relatively expensive). I think Blaupunkt does too.
Sony has two models with built in stereo and handsfree Bluetooth integration, the MEX-BT2500 and MEX-BT5000. The 2500 is probably the least expensive solution that still has a CD player, I have it in my car and love it, although I admittedly have not even attempted to use the handsfree functionality (due to the fact that it is installed in an incredibly noisy convertible). I use the headunit for BT stereo and a Plantronics 655 for handsfree conversations.
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Wow - hadn't even considered that, but thanks! Sadly, I have a Mazda3, which I really don't think would play nice with a different head unit. The stereo is just really integrated.
I guess I might have to go with the shuffle look-alike. Does anyone else own this? Can you confirm that it's decent?
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This looks good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875156001
Tritton AX Bluestream
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Cheap it ain't, but that actually looks pretty good! Does anyone own it?
According to http://www.trittonsales.com/products/TRIBH102.html, it seems that the microphone is in the actual unit (necessary, since I won't be using the included headphones but rather hooking it to my aux), and I think it has the remote controls on it.
(On another note, as someone who has zero bluetooth/headset experience, I wonder what will happen when I'm listening to my music in the car and get a phone call - will the feedback just suck if the person is coming over the speakers and the mic is picking it up?)
iTech cheaper than Tritton
iTech makes several models, like Clip Radio or Clip R35, that are similar to Tritton. They run a little cheaper but are hard to find (try eBay). Might be sold as the HTC S100. Also, check out the Motorola S705 SoundPilot, which includes an LCD screen.
If you're thinking about an installed solution, check out my detailed review of the MK6000 in the Wizard forum. Also, Motorola T605 is similar to MK6000. Not as many features but much cheaper.
Just a word of warning if you use Voice Command with A2DP: once A2DP is connected, Voice Command audio prompts no longer work via Bluetooth (commands still work, just no feedback). Apparently, I am not the only one with the problem.
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iTech makes several models, like Clip Radio or Clip R35, that are similar to Tritton. They run a little cheaper but are hard to find (try eBay). Might be sold as the HTC S100. Also, check out the Motorola S705 SoundPilot, which includes an LCD screen.
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I just want to thank everyone very much for all their help! I guess it's down to deciding between three models. So if anyone has any experience with any of these, I'd love your feedback!
Motorola S705 SoundPilot
Tritton AX Bluestream (TRI-BH102)
i.Tech Clip R35
Thanks!
I have been using 2 scenarios in my car for years now:
1. Direct connection via audio plug, mic in the middle, then AUX to car stereo.
2. Bluetooth connection using the itech R35 with a short cable connected to the AUX car stereo.
Though I'm using Prophet, not a Kaiser, but you can draw the same lesson learned.
Direct connection is always clear, and you do not consume more battery on your phone. And when its connected, you are always ready to pick up incoming all. But this configuration requires 2 steps to pick up the call: one press from your car stereo to switch the input to AUX, then one press on your green button to pick up the call, unless you also play the music from your PPC.
BT connection, you always need extra step to enable the BT on the phone, and then switch on the BT adapter. If you forget to do this, you cannot pick up the incoming call. Also, the BT adapter (my experience with R35 with WM6) most of the time the connection was not established automatically, you can reestablish the connection by pressing the blue button once and then look at the phone to make sure the connection now is okay before start driving).
And you also carry one more new routine: to take the BT adapter for charging.
My experience after using it for a while, not very confinient. I'm looking into better solution, which is replacing the stereo unit with integrated BT one.
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Though I'm using Prophet, not a Kaiser, but you can draw the same lesson learned.
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Thanks so much! Unfortunately, my phone is mounted on the dash, but my AUX is inside my center console. Therefore I can't use the wired solution.
However, both locations have 12V ports, so I CAN keep the both phone and BT adapter powered. Sounds like that's the way to go.
What has your experience been on the i.Tech Clip R35 as far as quality is concerned?
Thanks!
I just ordered the Sonorix C3 to test out myself. Was between that and the Moto S705. The range on the Moto seems too good to be true. Lots of bad reviews. Haven't heard much of the Sonorix but the few reviews I have found are positive.
itech R35
i.Tech Clip R35, whenever you plug in the power plug (very tiny pin, I wish it is a mini USB like the PPC so I can reduce charger to bring along for travel), and it starts charging, it will turn off the BT during the charging period.
If you can find the one with mini USB charging port, that will be better.
It might not sound annoying for you if you have not used it, but after using it for a while, you will find that extra job everytime you enter and exit the car, ie: switching it on and then off, checking the BT connection before start driving, will eventually become problematic as well, or you can call it laziness. =)
In term of quality, the sound will be very loud and clear, as you use your car speaker. Very nice while driving. But the mic quality is not very good, people will say their barely hear you. I use a short cable and hang the chip R35 just below the rear mirror to get it closer to me.
And remember, to press the R35 to accept call, not your phone anymore. =)
My wish is something like this one (see the picture attached).
I ordered one, the BT connection is perfect. It turns on whenever you switch on your car, and it draws power from the car, so it never needs to be charged. It initiates the BT connection automatically to your phone.
The only draw back is it uses FM to feed to audio to your car stereo. I wish it has an output that I could connect to the car AUX.
In my city, all of the FM frequencies are used, so its very hard to get a clear transmission using any channel. Otherwise, this is the best choice.
I just checked their website (www.satechi.com), its kind of weird, now they do not have this product any longer. They used to have both flavors, with and without A2DP. Most people concern about the FM transmission quality and the mic performance. Otherwise, its an excellent idea. No wire at all.
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In term of quality, the sound will be very loud and clear, as you use your car speaker. Very nice while driving. But the mic quality is not very good, people will say their barely hear you. I use a short cable and hang the chip R35 just below the rear mirror to get it closer to me.
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Thanks so much for your input! I actually ordered one the other day, so I'll report back soon with my own thoughts.
I'm sorry to hear about the miniUSB port - I was hoping to cut down on chargers too. Worse, it seems, is that it isn't useable while charging - I suppose it's not a deal-breaker, but I would have liked to just be able to charge it while I used it.
Glad to hear the audio is good, and I hope the mic works somewhat well, as it will be beside me in the center console.
I want to hear your thoughts on the R35 as well drokkon. I am curious to see what you think about mic quality so I can decide if I really want to get it or not!
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I want to hear your thoughts on the R35 as well drokkon. I am curious to see what you think about mic quality so I can decide if I really want to get it or not!
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I just received my R35 yesterday (I ordered it from a Hong Kong-based ebayer, so keep in mind that it takes quite a while to get here).
Started using it right away after charging it for 3 hours. Initial thoughts:
Charger isn't MiniUSB, so I'll have to find some kind of car charger solution. Although, it's been pointed out that it doesn't play music while charging anyway, but I'd still like to leave it in my car at all times.
Music quality is superb! Also one little snag: unlike my bluetooth stereo headset, this thing doesn't automatically pair back up every time you power it on. You have to power it on, and then "click" the power button one more time to actually connect it to your phone again.
Called voicemail and it was cool to hear my phone over the car speakers. Unfortunately, I have yet to actually take a real call, so I'll have to get back to you on the mic quality. My Mazda3 will also make a great test bed, as it has "pronounced road noise" (but that was the only "con" listed in tons of otherwise great reviews, so I got it anyway!).
That is a bummer to hear that it doesn't automatically pair back up every time. But I guess it won't be that bad once it becomes habbit.
Let us all know when you find out about mic quality and final thoughts.
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That is a bummer to hear that it doesn't automatically pair back up every time. But I guess it won't be that bad once it becomes habbit.
Let us all know when you find out about mic quality and final thoughts.
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Okay - so here are my final thoughts:
You're right - it does become habit: hold for two seconds to power on, click once to re-pair. Pretty simple.
The sound quality shocks me - I'm no audiophile, but as far as I'm concerned, this isn't "near" CD quality, it IS.
The connection drops once in a while between phone and R35. After a call, sometimes the music is paused, sometimes it picks up where it left off, and sometimes it re-starts the song. This must be due to something I'm doing wrong or just the clumsy nature of what I perceive to be a fairly young technology. It's most likely the Tilt rather than the R35.
On to mic quality! I've only made two calls. Both times, people could hear me fine, despite that the device was in my center console, somewhat blocked by my shoulder. I was definitely speaking up, as my car is pretty loud on the highway. However, both times the callers asked to be taken off of hands-free because of pronounced echo (no small feat while driving, considering that turning off hands-free, as far as I know, involves clicking "menu").
Potential mic solutions: My device is pretty stationary, being attached to my console with a 4- or 5-inch audio plug. I'm thinking about getting a longer cord, so I can maybe turn my stereo down and hold the mic closer to my mouth... so much for hands-free, but maybe it would help the echo. More likely, I think I'll just let the R35 handle the "wireless stereo" and my headset handle "headset," since WM6 allows me to choose between those two bluetooth modes. That way the phone will ring while listening to my stereo, I take the call with my headset, and then resume listening to my stereo... I presume.
Finally - battery life. It boasts standby time of 16 hours and 6 of talk (I believe). I know you're not supposed to leave batteries in the cold, but my R35 was in the car overnight during the cold snap in Colorado last week - it probably was in the upper teens Fahrenheit. The day before, I fully charged it and listened to it for no more than an hour (and that's a generous estimate). The next day, I got 20-30 minutes before it went dead. I didn't realize that cold zapped batteries that dramatically. Since I always want to leave this thing in the car, that's another case for a car charger.
Speaking of car chargers, I guess I will post again, asking if anyone knows how I can get a "custom" one. There's this ridiculously tiny plug, plus the voltage/wattage listed on the wall transformer - surely I can find a custom solution...?
That's it - hope it helps! Can anyone review any of the other devices similar to the R35?
I don't own a Kaiser "yet". But I tried the Sony HBD-DS220 (or DS200) recently on my car w/ Axim X51v and Asus P525, and it works perfectly. Sound is perfect and you can't really notice it's over BT. And one nice thing about this headset is you CAN charge it while listening to music. But like all A2DP device, you will notice 1-2 sec out of sync if you use this for movie or MTV.
Any tips on which one is best? Trying to wirelessly send music to car speakers via the audio jack...
Thank you
you can look up the Motorla T505 - It is bluetooth and transmits to your car stereo using Powerful FM Transmitter. Mutes music when you get a call and resumes after. Calls come through car stereo as well. Or if you want check out jabra stereo headphones = I know that there are a few that have Headphone jacks out. My Jabra Bt320 would do what you are looking for or there is a Jabra stereo headphone set that looks like dog tags with headphone jack out as well. (Wish I would have foun that before I bought the Bt320 )
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u can try the Motorola S705. It allows u to attach any 3.5mm jack to the unit. I have been using it for awhile and it works pretty good.
This sounds like a good idea. But, I often go the cheap route on devices like this. I shop at this website DealExtreme and they have a device like this for $20. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8098 I saw some reviews on it that says the range sucks... it's like 10 feet or something but if I'm in my car with it, what does it matter. Anyways, that site rocks. There is a replacement battery on there for the Kaiser for like $7. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15833
I personally use the iTech Clip (S38 I think...) i'd have to double check. I ordered it from ebay thought and it works pretty well. It was around $50 for me with shipping. The only complaint is the music sounds just a touch muffled when compared to listening through wired head phones. But you really don't noticed it unless you are doing a comparo.
I use mine all the time for when I go running and it works well.
plantronics 855
the plantronics 855 is a really nice stereo bluetooth headset. I got mine for $45 on sale, I think it goes for around $40 new on ebay. With a 3.5mm headphone jack part (radio shack $2), some wire (radio shack $3), a small amount of dremeling and some soldering you can turn it into a really small bluetooth to 3.5mm adapter with really great sound. (im using bose-in ear headphones and the sound quality is really good). I did it with mine and I love it. If you want instructions PM me.
If you just want to buy something then sony makes a really nice one, its like $100 but the sound quality has to be great.
Also make sure you do the A2DP hack to your phone (it's really just a reg edit in cab form):
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Sony Ericsson HBH-DS205 or DS220.
Generally rated very good -but some report brief transfer interruptions happening every minute or so. They come with a headset included, but thats connected to the unit via a 3.5 mm plug. I found one for a decent price on Ebay.
Waiting for my S705
tleader said:
u can try the Motorola S705. It allows u to attach any 3.5mm jack to the unit. I have been using it for awhile and it works pretty good.
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I just purchased the S705 on Amazon. What I liked was that it could charge while it was working as a bluetooth receiver. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't have a hard on/off switch. I would much prefer to be able to leave the switch on all the time so that as soon as I enter my car and turn the car on, the S705 would connect to my phone.
As it is, I accept the limitation as it might be better all around that I have to turn the thing off rather than have it wasting it's charge every time I turn off the car.
Iv just bought a jabra 3030 dogtagbluetooth headset which has a 3.5mm audio jack on it so you could put it in a cup holder and buy a small 3.5mm audio jack cable to plug into the radio, I will test it out when mines delivered if you want ?
Hi I got my BT3030 today and must say it is amazing works great with tytn ii, sterio audio goes through aswell and a 3.5mm jack on the side so you can plug it into any form of audio output!
Sound quality is the best Iv ever heard from a bluetooth device and is allmost as good as my 5.1 at home
Only £30 from expansys if you get the £10 off from madoca or whatever it is.
I am still shopping for a solution but found this one while looking. Haven't tried any yet, thanks to all who posted suggestions.
Hi, I have an XDA Serra, very pleased with this phone so far, the only downside is battery life, but hey I can live with that.
I am using it in the car for Sat Nav (Co Pilot 6) or in car holder for calls on the move.
Unfortunately the sound generated from the handset speaker isn't great and therefore I would like to be able to either use a car holder that amplifies the sound, or use the phone through the a car stereo.
My current stereo is pretty basic so I am looking to change it for a Bluetooth model, however I would like to know what works and which model to buy (not too expensive).
I would like to be able to 1) hear phone calls 2) run co-pilot 3) play music through the car stereo. Is it possible to do this through a BT capable Stereo? anyone got this working succesfully?
Cheers, Blair
There is another issue with the sound: as the speaker ist on the back side of the phone, most car holders will cover the speaker, so the volume goes down. Same happens when you lay it on the table.
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dark_lobito, thanks for your response, I must admit I didn't pick up on that at first, just checked my car kit and it appears that the speaker is not fully covered, but is blocking some of the speaker.
I bought this http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=169986 which is OK for the price, and gives enough sound for a quiet room indoors. It's not amazing but is good enough for using as a portable radio/music player, but not in the car.
I have been looking and there are quite a few car stereos with BT audio streaming, as well as phone capabilities. But I need to know if it works as I want it to before splashing out.
I am hoping somebody has got these functions working with a BT Car Stereo to advise me.
Cheers, Blair
My car has an Auxilliary input, so I used the adapter that came with the phone and plugged the charger and Aux In wire to the phone. That sends the sound through the speakers of your car.
Also when you use the adapter that came with the phone it lets you use the microphone also so it works perfectly.
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samz465, thanks for reply, but I'm not sure what u mean? The only adapter I got with the phone (O2 XDA Serra version) was a cable that allows u to connect to a 3.5 jack.
Sorry to be a pain, any pictures showing what adaptor you mean?
Cheers, Blair
Can I jump in here?
I have the HTC Pro too (Sprint)
I also have a car with an IPOD input
Well tonight I connected that to the phone's dongle via the 3.5mm input.
It sounds so good with my speakers ..BUT when I connect the USB headset that came with it, and make a phone call, they can't hear me but I can hear them just LOUD
Am I doing something wrong?
jeff
You might want to check out the Motorola T605 - Bluetooth hands-free car kit. It has stereo BT profile and an FM transmitter.
Might save you the cost and installation of a new head unit.
I've never used the T605 so I can't vouch for how good it is.
i've bought a car kit fm transmitter from ebay & made a quick review of it here. it works ok but you can only charge it if you don't use the fm transmitter & vice versa, it does not have a speaker unfortunately... does the job ok otherwise. decent/good enough sound for GPS & even for music playback
Too get better sound you should also try SRS WOW HD. It boosts volume and certainly clears up the mumble. Voices are recognizable as voices instead of monsters coming out of a can.