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Guys
I noticed my XDA II device was playing up and things started slowing down and everything
checked around and found that there was a PDA Virus released on the net
if your XDA or XDAII device connects to a PC while your on the net, then you WILL catch the VIRUS
it doesn't seem to be detected by antivirus software either !
downloaded a file called AIRSCANANTIVIRUSPDA.EXE and ran that !
seems to have cleaned my device no problems.
not sure if it's free or anything as i got it from a guy in OZ, but if you can't find it i'll add it to a posting
my opinion is that the antivirus makers are the people that create them ! then charge for antivirus, but hey ! that's just what i think !
just checked the software and about button and it comes up with http://www.airscanner.com/mobile/
check it out for yourselves !
hope it helps guys
cheers
nightwolf said:
I noticed my XDA II device was playing up and things started slowing down and everything
checked around and found that there was a PDA Virus released on the net
if your XDA or XDAII device connects to a PC while your on the net, then you WILL catch the VIRUS
it doesn't seem to be detected by antivirus software either !
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You've probably encountered the WM2003 notifications bug, not a virus. You can use the CheckNotifications program to fix that.
nightwolf said:
my opinion is that the antivirus makers are the people that create them ! then charge for antivirus, but hey ! that's just what i think !
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I work for a major antivirus company and I can tell you for a fact that we don't create viruses. In fact, we signed an agreement that anyone who writes a virus will not only be fired but blacklisted. A virus writer will never get a job in any antivirus company. Engineers from the different antivirus companies meet regularly to cooperate in the fight against viruses. Writing a virus is a mortal sin in the antivirus industry. Imagine the damage to the industry's reputation if customers find out that the antivirus companies are creating the problems that they are solving.
if your XDA or XDA II device connects to a PC while your on the net, then you WILL catch the VIRUS
it doesn't seem to be detected by antivirus software either !
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Riiiight... And the same place you learned that also told you about the million dollars that Bill Gates is going to send you for forwarding his e-mail, and to watch out for your kidneys if you wake up in a motel room in Vegas.
nightwolf said:
Guys
I noticed my XDA II device was playing up and things started slowing down and everything
checked around and found that there was a PDA Virus released on the net
if your XDA or XDAII device connects to a PC while your on the net, then you WILL catch the VIRUS
it doesn't seem to be detected by antivirus software either !
downloaded a file called AIRSCANANTIVIRUSPDA.EXE and ran that !
seems to have cleaned my device no problems.
not sure if it's free or anything as i got it from a guy in OZ, but if you can't find it i'll add it to a posting
my opinion is that the antivirus makers are the people that create them ! then charge for antivirus, but hey ! that's just what i think !
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There is one, but it's spread as an executable file, which needs to be opened to infect a Pocket PC. You can't just catch it by accessing the net. HThe standard avise not to open unknown executable files aplies here.
Jargon said:
A virus writer will never get a job in any antivirus company.
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I know several people working on Kasperski antivirus company who created viruses when being students
Currently there is only one "proof of concept" PDA virus. And it is not dangerous.
mamaich said:
Jargon said:
A virus writer will never get a job in any antivirus company.
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I know several people working on Kasperski antivirus company who created viruses when being students
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Thanks. Our marketing department will be interested in knowing their names. :wink:
Isn't there a big difference between *writing* a virus and releasing it?
Carlos said:
Isn't there a big difference between *writing* a virus and releasing it?
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Its a huge difference. Lots of my friends wrote simple viruses in childhood (and even I did), but they were never released, though their code was used in other projects. I've even seen a book "Vriting virus and anti-virus" that was published in Russian.
Can anyone recommend one?
None!
Don't worry about viruses just yet. Nothing can really get onto your machine without you actually OKing it in the first place.
here
From the ftp, from an JasJar extended rom - Computer Assosiates AV, completely free.
Ward said:
None!
Don't worry about viruses just yet. Nothing can really get onto your machine without you actually OKing it in the first place.
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That had me on the floor in stiches. This is a microsoft OS. It has Outlook on it, it has wireless abilities, and I am pretty sure that most people leave their bluetooth on most of the time. Also, what about faked 'service' sms messages, these could easily have viruses in them.
Gareth
any viruses out there that i know of only affect symbian phones so i wouldnt worry about them on your phone
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Ward said:
None!
Don't worry about viruses just yet. Nothing can really get onto your machine without you actually OKing it in the first place.
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That had me on the floor in stiches. This is a microsoft OS. It has Outlook on it, it has wireless abilities, and I am pretty sure that most people leave their bluetooth on most of the time. Also, what about faked 'service' sms messages, these could easily have viruses in them.
Gareth
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Show me one person that has been infected with a virus, and also tell me how good that virus can spread itself. Until then a virusscanner is only good for slowing down your pocketpc and nothing else.
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Ward said:
None!
Don't worry about viruses just yet. Nothing can really get onto your machine without you actually OKing it in the first place.
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That had me on the floor in stiches. This is a microsoft OS. It has Outlook on it, it has wireless abilities, and I am pretty sure that most people leave their bluetooth on most of the time. Also, what about faked 'service' sms messages, these could easily have viruses in them.
Gareth
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The platform is far too limited to worry. And if you think an AV will protect you, think again. Perfect AVs are mythical, the reality is that AVs are useless against a real 0-day virus which are disseminated on a very limited basis for compromising specific computers.
Common sense and a knowledge of what is going on > AV protection and the false feeling of security.
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And if you think an AV will protect you, think again. Perfect AVs are mythical, the reality is that AVs are useless against a real 0-day virus which are disseminated on a very limited basis for compromising specific computers.
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I agree with you entirely
Virus!!
I would like to inform you guys that one of my friends who has a SE910i send me a .sis file which drained my battery completely I was not able to use the phone till it was charged till 4%. The problem is now the battery keeps getting drained I know the usage has not changed and yes I have deleted the file.
If you want I can send you a program that dial premium numbers during the night...
Has anyone else noticed that if they have both Co-Pilot, and the anti-virus application - Both supplied with my Ameo.... and soft reset, the phone will go in some strange loop.
Shows the T-Mobile screen, then the Microsoft Push Email, flashes the today screen for less than a second, back to T-Mobile screen... repeat.
Only way I've seen to get round it is safe mode the unit and uninstall the antivirus.
I know most will say why bother with antivirus... but for a sense of security I would prefer it, does anyone else have this problem? Anyone know of any better anti-virus software? Or a fix for this one?
Cheers
I agree with you that anti-virus software of a good practice. I'm also keen in looking for a good one.
However, I experience what you described when evaluating the spb tips and spb mobile shell. I had to do a safe mode reset too.
eaglesteve said:
I agree with you that anti-virus software of a good practice. I'm also keen in looking for a good one.
However, I experience what you described when evaluating the spb tips and spb mobile shell. I had to do a safe mode reset too.
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I don't tend to use SPB Tips, want to have Mobile Shell, had that on my Compact III and thought it was great, but heard people on here reporting incompatibility with Ameo regarding speaker issues so going to wait until the next release...
Or have you got it working well?
Regards
Anti-virus for PDA = 100% Marketing
That's what I think. I'm sorry.
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mahjong said:
Anti-virus for PDA = 100% Marketing
That's what I think. I'm sorry.
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If you can pick up a lot of virus' simply by surfin on the internet with the pop up etc, why can you not pick them up when viewing them on an alternate device?
You will soon have no choice but to add anti-virus to your list of essential applications for the phone. Trust me on this.
I have to agree. There was a time the PocketPC was safe, unless you download warez there was no chance of being infected. Even then it was rare.
Its seems that the success of HTC and the windows mobile phones puts them in the windows desktop attack bracket. Now there are so many, and they are all getting data connections its worth attacking them.
Sorry to say it, but while AV on ppc at the moment is dubious, it will soon be required.
I dont know why WM6 doesnt have DEP (data execution protection) etc like vista. They could make it much more secure but havent bothered.
btw, itxda, sounds like your making a threat there! lol. Your not writing a virus are you?
Consideration 1.
A virus need to be programmed for the machine and OS you need want to infect. Can someone tell me a reported case of a virus programmed for Windows Mobile? Please don't report what Symantec or Panda said about it... I mean a real case reported by some user. None.
Consideration 2.
Virus propagation. The way to propagate a virus is into excutable code (this means EXE files) or finding a way to introduce and executable code in a non-executable file, like a .zip file. Then you need to spread that infected code. How in a PDA? Exchanging files? A few exchange of EXE is done in PDA. Thru the network? Cmon... there is a few opportunities for a PDA virus to exist and a few to spread.
Consideration 3.
Don't get confused. Having PocketPC IE doesn't mean that you are on risk of the troyans or virus or even spyware that IE for Windows XP has. First of all because the code to be executed on a PC is not executable in a PPC and second that the target APIs and files in a PC are not in a PPC.
Consideration 4.
Please don't mention Bluetooth virus. The ones existing (if any) are for Symbian and even in Symbian world there are so many incompatible versions of symbian that a given virus has real troubles to spread in the network.
SO...
If I question the fact of someone coding virus for this particular machine and OS, and I question the regular ways of spreading virus, and I question the network and IE risks... What's left? The marketing interest of anti-virus makers.
All this applies to anti-virus programs for Apple Mac, Linux of all kind, symbian phones... and phones in general.
Motorola got a lot of market share in USA... doesn't someone ever in USA got a virus on a Motorola? Never ever. Same for PocketPC. Trust me.
Regards,
mahjong
mahjong said:
Consideration 1.
A virus need to be programmed for the machine and OS you need want to infect. Can someone tell me a reported case of a virus programmed for Windows Mobile? Please don't report what Symantec or Panda said about it... I mean a real case reported by some user. None.
Consideration 2.
Virus propagation. The way to propagate a virus is into excutable code (this means EXE files) or finding a way to introduce and executable code in a non-executable file, like a .zip file. Then you need to spread that infected code. How in a PDA? Exchanging files? A few exchange of EXE is done in PDA. Thru the network? Cmon... there is a few opportunities for a PDA virus to exist and a few to spread.
Consideration 3.
Don't get confused. Having PocketPC IE doesn't mean that you are on risk of the troyans or virus or even spyware that IE for Windows XP has. First of all because the code to be executed on a PC is not executable in a PPC and second that the target APIs and files in a PC are not in a PPC.
Consideration 4.
Please don't mention Bluetooth virus. The ones existing (if any) are for Symbian and even in Symbian world there are so many incompatible versions of symbian that a given virus has real troubles to spread in the network.
SO...
If I question the fact of someone coding virus for this particular machine and OS, and I question the regular ways of spreading virus, and I question the network and IE risks... What's left? The marketing interest of anti-virus makers.
All this applies to anti-virus programs for Apple Mac, Linux of all kind, symbian phones... and phones in general.
Motorola got a lot of market share in USA... doesn't someone ever in USA got a virus on a Motorola? Never ever. Same for PocketPC. Trust me.
Regards,
mahjong
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Thanks for your post, very imformative.
You've converted me,,, for now.
But at the end of the day, what I think sells the software is the fact that it gives the end-user peace of mind.
You can tell people that they don't need something, don't have to do something until you're blue in the face and with all the facts in the world. But there will still be a large number of people that will want it anyway, just for peace of mind...
Also.... can anyone tell me have they had the problems that I had on post #1 :-D ... I've hard reset and installed but still get the problem, without the antivirus installed....
I think it's now looking to be the fault of SPB software, has anyone discovered a fix?
The main purpose of AV software on PPC devices is to scan synched email; if you get email on your Athena, then plug into Outlook, it may (theoretically) pass a virus on.
You know we tend to do quite a bit of testing out new and interesting applications downloaded free. Could'nt a virus be disguised as a free applications and when we run the CAB, confidential info will just simply be extracted, or registry item be manipulated etc?
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You know we tend to do quite a bit of testing out new and interesting applications downloaded free. Could'nt a virus be disguised as a free applications and when we run the CAB, confidential info will just simply be extracted, or registry item be manipulated etc?
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Now that's a well thought out statement and question.
As easy as it is to develop applications on the Windows Mobile platform, it's only a matter of time before we start seeing serious viruses and trojans. There are a few out there already but aren't wide spread yet. As on any system, if you open attachments via e-mail or download from the Internet, it's only going to be a matter of time. Time is coming soon. Trust me on this point. Not everyone will be hit but it'll make a mark.
What about writing a virus that can infect your phone, sms your info and GPS coordinates to someone? ;-)
Viruses aren't difficult at all to write. On any platform, Wintel/Linux/Mac/etc.
When one of the scriptkiddies determines that he's been bored all week because he's home for summer vacation and looks over at daddies cell phone....one of them will wonder..."how fast can I propogate a virus throughout cell phones".
Not an if it happens just a when. Let's just be patient and we'll be hearing about the first infections in no time at all.
Heck, someone on this forum could one day write something that infects everyone. You never know.
Hmmm I see what all of you meant but remember the key is "coding a virus for a given machine and OS"... If you don't code the virus that way will not affect the PDA.
Talking about virus I remember the slogan of the New York Mafia: "First we created the need of having protection... them we sell it". (just a joke don't flame... people).
ltxda said:
As easy as it is to develop applications on the Windows Mobile platform, it's only a matter of time before we start seeing serious viruses and trojans. There are a few out there already but aren't wide spread yet. As on any system, if you open attachments via e-mail or download from the Internet, it's only going to be a matter of time. Time is coming soon. Trust me on this point. Not everyone will be hit but it'll make a mark.
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People have been saying "it's coming soon" for years. It has always been easy to program for the Windows Mobile platform, but that hasn't changed the fact that it has now been seven (or five, depending on how you count) years without a virus on Windows Mobile.
Let's hope that people are smart enough to keep it that way. Virus programmers need to get their heads checked...
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People have been saying "it's coming soon" for years. It has always been easy to program for the Windows Mobile platform, but that hasn't changed the fact that it has now been seven (or five, depending on how you count) years without a virus on Windows Mobile.
Let's hope that people are smart enough to keep it that way. Virus programmers need to get their heads checked...
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LOL, agreed.
Kids don't always think logically. We have all done stupid things in our youth. That tradition will never die.
I think this is a useful thread, but not sure it answered the original question, so can I re-state and add?
1. Is the included F-Secure a/v programme the best one for the job?
2. Is it worth-while paying to keep it updated?
Many thanks
Robert
Check out fuzemobility for more info
http://www.fuzemobility.com/google-maps-for-mobile-now-with-layers/
Or go to http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=default
Release notes (version 3.2)
Below is a list of new features and fixed issues for Google Maps for mobile available in version 3.2 for Symbian Series 60 and Windows Mobile devices.
Installing
Install version 3.2 for Symbian Series 60 and Windows Mobile devices by going to http://m.google.com/maps in your mobile web browser. To ensure proper device detection, use your phone’s original, native browser, such as Internet Explorer Mobile on Windows Mobile devices.
WinMo app is not there anymore (page removed)
gmm 3.2.0 cab
I don't know why google makes it such a pain in the balls to get gmm cabs but here it is.
thanks mate
the link is dead...
never mind, it worked a couple of minutes later...
ya the link on their website for it isn't working.
Anyway it's nice they updated it with the new features.
Now if they would just give us lowly windows-mobile users that google-voice app that they released for everyone else.....
Sweet!
Having traffic accident info is EXACTLY what I have been hoping for.
Good F'n job Google!
Now if they can just integrate weather updates based on cell tower/gps location it would be brushing up against perfect.
(And yes I know Live Search/Bing already does this.)
don't work on Diamond2???
braulioleonardo said:
don't work on Diamond2???
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You installed to Memory Card, right?
As the website said, you have to uninstall, delete any files in the Program Files/ folder for Google Maps, and then restart your phone, and then re-install.
I hate Google's impossible links. Annoyingggg.
What I'd really like to see is Google Earth!!!
Old faithful said:
What I'd really like to see is Google Earth!!!
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Really? I'm already waiting for Google Seas or Space.
thanks for the heads up. downloaded and loving it. especially since they updated transit info this might be the best thing to happen to city dwellers
d0ugie said:
I don't know why google makes it such a pain in the balls to get gmm cabs but here it is.
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Can always count on you to deliver the goods when the manufacturer can only provide a 404.
Cheers Mate!
ace10134 said:
Really? I'm already waiting for Google Seas or Space.
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Google Galaxy would be absolutely fantastic ... you have no idea how much of a pain it is to find directions to Omicron Persei 8.
hilaireg said:
Can always count on you to deliver the goods when the manufacturer can only provide a 404.
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You know das' right my man, I deliver! Can't claim I've got the fastest connection in the world (dsl...) but my server's had 100% uptime since I flipped the switch on for blownfuze back in december.
In google's defense you don't want to be giving out your new hot software to people unless you're sure you're giving them the right version for their phone's OS and with all these different browsers for all phones and I guess it's getting hard to tell what kind of phone they've got based on their http user agent. Almost everybody who uses winmo phones are not like us, don't flash new roms of new builds of different winmo releases, don't use leaked betas of browsers... still, why not let people download from their computer like everyone else who distributes software. For example, here's a user agent that just hit my server log:
"Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.2.13216/574; U; en)"
Hard to tell which OS that guy's running and google doesn't want to release crappy java versions of gmm anymore.
Doug
I hear ya.
Via devices ... makes total sense.
Via PC however, which is the only way I download CAB's, Google could save themselves tons of issues by following the lead of other manufacturers ...
Drop-Down List 1: Device (or O/S)
Drop-Down List 2: Language of GMM to download
Button: Download
... done. It's simple and requires no complex auto-detection, just a PC user who can read.
At least that's how it's done, I'm told, on Omicron Persei 8.
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You know das' right my man, I deliver! Can't claim I've got the fastest connection in the world (dsl...) but my server's had 100% uptime since I flipped the switch on for blownfuze back in december.
In google's defense you don't want to be giving out your new hot software to people unless you're sure you're giving them the right version for their phone's OS and with all these different browsers for all phones and I guess it's getting hard to tell what kind of phone they've got based on their http user agent. Almost everybody who uses winmo phones are not like us, don't flash new roms of new builds of different winmo releases, don't use leaked betas of browsers... still, why not let people download from their computer like everyone else who distributes software. For example, here's a user agent that just hit my server log:
"Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.2.13216/574; U; en)"
Hard to tell which OS that guy's running and google doesn't want to release crappy java versions of gmm anymore.
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DUDE! We run similar sites! Except I support the T-Mobile Wing while you're all for the Fuze. But I've gotta say my site looks better: http://thewingster.com/
Hehe. That's cool that we ended up doing the same thing though!
And Screenshots of the new Google Maps: http://thewingster.com/googlemaps.aspx
Taken Directly from Googles maps page:
Supported Phones
Google Maps for mobile works on most phones, including those that run the below platforms. You can always download Maps to your phone using your cellular connection -- just visit m.google.com/maps on your device's browser, or send yourself a text message using the button at the top of this page. Some mobile phones also support the ability to sideload Google Maps onto your phone.
Android
BlackBerry
Java
Windows Mobile: Download Binary
Symbian S60 3rd Edition (most new Nokia smartphones): Download Binary
Palm OS: Download Binary
iPhone (pre-installed)
If you're not sure whether your phone runs one of these platforms, just try sending yourself a text message to get Maps. It will probably work!
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So they do offer an easy way to download the cabs...
Yup ... site I usually go to ... looks like they fixed the broken links - no more 404.
From all my browsing on here recently, on not one occasion have I seen Anti Virus / anti malware tools mentioned.
I have a bit of a blackspot in my thinking on this - is it recommended / necessary to have such tools on Windows Mobiles? What do people do to protect their HD2s?
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-flexilis-mobile-security-with-antivirus.html
i have not tested it on the HD2
Security thru obscurity - WM has such a relatively ****e mktshare I don't think u have to worry too much about firewalls and antivirus... as long as you scan the files you copy over to your phone via ActiveSync I think ur pretty much safe.
If u really want antivirus I think Kaspersky or some other major provider offer solutions....
hi! i use eset mobile antivirus...
I think I need to look into an anti virus/firewall type of software, as I've just found out I may have been affected by something called The Koobface worm which sent out messages from my facebook account to all my friends asking them to check out a link which was just some money scam.
I have since changed my password, but I don't know if it will happen again. I'm surprised as I have hardly used the internet on my HD2, apart from merely checking well know sites like BBC and MSN.
i am also interested in this, is it really worth it? most viruses i have seen descriptions of for WM seem to relate to social networking sites and direct access apps. since i dont use these sort of sites, is there any need for concern? after all, regular backups of this sort of device seem like the better option to an always live cpu-eating (and battery) scanning program.
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hi! i use eset mobile antivirus...
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I've used their Anti-Virus on my PC/s and I found that it leaves a small footprint in comparison to the likes of Symantec etc... however, how does the mobile version effect your battery life and performance of your device?
I've looked a the ESET website and they reckon it's not that resource hungry, but real world usage usually is different...
Hi!
I get battery drain as most people here... About 3% per hour in standby mode...
It is resource hungry when you perform scan... But I really need just on access scanner... Realtime scanning is important...
Antivirus/Antimalware is not currently necessary in WinMo devices. It simply drains resources protecting against threats that don't exist.
Viruses are unlikely as the OS is in ROM (unlike PCs where the OS is just another set of user files) and malware has yet to reach WinMo in any real form though it has been produced in the labs of some AV developers. The difference is that malware needs to be positively accepted on the device to install- it can't install silently due to the way the OS works.
Your choice at the end of the day, but PC threats cannot infect/affect WinMo devices.
webjunky said:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-flexilis-mobile-security-with-antivirus.html
i have not tested it on the HD2
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Thanks webjunky, I've got it running on my phone, quite cool actually, bunch of online tools such as "Scream" which can be used incase you misplace your phone, you can use the facility to make you phone "Scream". Only useful if your phone is nearby and you can't find it, handy though if you have it on silent and can't find it by ring with another phone.
The GPS/network locater is cool too, you can go online and locate your phone, takes about 5mins to locate, bit like in the films when they try to "trace" a call
I don't know if its a placebo effect, but I think the phone might be abit slower, but hard to tell to be honest.
NeilM said:
Antivirus/Antimalware is not currently necessary in WinMo devices. It simply drains resources protecting against threats that don't exist.
Viruses are unlikely as the OS is in ROM (unlike PCs where the OS is just another set of user files) and malware has yet to reach WinMo in any real form though it has been produced in the labs of some AV developers. The difference is that malware needs to be positively accepted on the device to install- it can't install silently due to the way the OS works.
Your choice at the end of the day, but PC threats cannot infect/affect WinMo devices.
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Thanks NeilM, that makes alot of sense. I'm still worried about how facebook messages were sent via my HD2 to all my friends. Is it more a facebook issue, or could it be the "Koobface" worm some how got onto my phone?
This is likely to be a problem generated by a PC infected by koobface- either yours or one of your contacts, if the messages are indeed infected.
The HD2 is not susceptible to any PC threats so it hasn't come from there- more likely that something has spoofed your messaging system within Facebook.
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This is likely to be a problem generated by a PC infected by koobface
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Definitely. Koobface only (currently) exists on PCs, not mobile devices.
NeilM said:
PC threats cannot infect/affect WinMo devices.
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Really? This is my experience with HTC HD2. I want to share it with you guys.
Because recently I connect my HD2 to a PC with XP OS, just wanted to print something (connected to PC'S USB, copy file and all that). And my device got really slow after that.
The next day, I got curious and run a scan (Kaspersky 2010) from my notebook, connected to my HD2. Whoa...., it's trojan everywhere... Furthermore, I think I still have virus in my HD2 (it is located in storage card).
The folder's name: COLD; sub-folder: HOTT. I forgot the content inside HOTT, but some guy used this technique of moving this virus folder into an empty folder named AUTORUN.INF in a storage card to prevent further infection in the system. He said we have to create a new folder for this, but AUTORUN.INF has been there since I scan my HD2 long ago with Kaspersky.
I don't know about other HD2 users, but I still have that COLD folder. I tried to move it to AUTORUN.INF folder, but it strangely persisted to stay in my storage card. For some reasons I don't understand, the files in HOTT sub-folder were gone. And when I check into AUTORUN.INF, the COLD folder and the HOTT sub-folder are also there with the content of HOTT sub-folder gone.
Now, I'm still considering whether to hard-reset my device once and for all.
LeeMC79 said:
From all my browsing on here recently, on not one occasion have I seen Anti Virus / anti malware tools mentioned.
I have a bit of a blackspot in my thinking on this - is it recommended / necessary to have such tools on Windows Mobiles? What do people do to protect their HD2s?
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I use LookOut Mobile on my HD2 & Nexus1
I had lookout on my Nexus One for peace mind but it only "protected" my phone from a malicious app that I might install.
I don't have nearly as many applications available on WinMo so there's no reason for me to have anti-virus since I have so few applications.
- Bing
- Opera Mobile
- Skype
- Skyfire
- Total Commander
- CoPilot
- Omarket
- cleanRAM
- WiFi Toggler
All these apps came from trusted sources so I'm not worried at all. Any trouble and I wouldn't have any reservations about resetting my phone back to factory settings though.
It is quite possible that a virus on your PC may have copied over files to the HD2's SD card while it was in disk mode. this is no different than a virus coping files to a floppy or usb flash drive to try and infect the next host that they are plugged/inserted into the PC and the PC autoruns the drive.
Just because a virus infected file is sitting on the HD2's SD card does not mean the HD2 is actively infected, ie processes are running that are sending out junk to your contacts, key logging, damaging/infecting other file, etc.
As far as i know there are no viruses out in the wild for winmobile, putting AV software on it is likely a waste of money and battery/resources. Youre probably more likely to find a virus on the android or jailbroken iphone platforms, than youll ever find them on win mobile
NeilM said:
Antivirus/Antimalware is not currently necessary in WinMo devices. It simply drains resources protecting against threats that don't exist.
Viruses are unlikely as the OS is in ROM (unlike PCs where the OS is just another set of user files) and malware has yet to reach WinMo in any real form though it has been produced in the labs of some AV developers. The difference is that malware needs to be positively accepted on the device to install- it can't install silently due to the way the OS works.
Your choice at the end of the day, but PC threats cannot infect/affect WinMo devices.
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Although your base OS is in ROM, Patches and upgrades are in memory if installed afterwards.
Removing can be simple: Hard reset, Format SD, apply patches, install software.
But this will take a lot of time.
At the moment the threat is (very) low. Main reason beeing that messaging is very tight (no automatic downloads).
I do not use antivirus, I use PDA's allready for 12 years (from Palm trough Ipaq to HTC phones). About 6 years ago Antimalware was a small hype, I went along for a moment.
This resulted in almost unusable PDA, very bad battery life. So I abandoned. Over the last 6 years, without Antivirus, just sensible use (no roaming on unknown WIFI, not visiting risky sites) I have never had any virus contamination.
So Honestly: Antivirus on HD2 is a bit scareware.
Also over the last 6 years (since first virus in 2004) the number of virusses are minimal. Most virusses are also just for one OS (so a virus on winmo5 does not work on winmo 6.5)
In my opinion: acceptable risks.
Just my two cents
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I do feel assured and feel relieved about not instllng anather app that htc company not included. After all, there is a reason for them not including any such apps about virus protection.
Windows PC virus cannot run on windows mobile as ARM is not x86 compatable. In order for a virus to infect a HD2 it has to be written specifically for that OS and CPU combination.
If you present your phone as a hdd to your computer then it is possible for a virus to get on the phone but it will not run on the phone due to different OS and CPU.
It is, however, still possible to infect another PC via the phone since you can still present your phone as a hdd to the host PC and the virus is uploaded when the host accesses the phone's storage.