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Make volume keys scroll up/down instead of change volume?

see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?

stmcgill said:
Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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I was also wondering about that.

Thyraz said:
I was also wondering about that.
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You most certainly can!
I use AE Button Plus. It is an amazing little app that lets you do just about anything with all the hardware buttons on the phone. It also lets you assign more than one behaviour to the same button- one for press, one for double press and so on... Check it out here http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hope this helps!

Nice one- thanks for that

Yes, excellent app !
I've been able to link to npop by adding the "mail" button but it still launched the built-in mail program, anyone figure out if it can be "inhibited" from AE ?

at3m said:
can you also make the wheel scroll? or it that not possible with this app?
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Wheel? What wheel? I only wish the Touch Dual had a wheel

Very impressed with Touch Dual so far. I agree - the wheel would have made it an amazing device...
Maybe for the Touch Dual II?

I can't get it to scroll when you keep the button pressed (volume up button for scroll up volume down button for scroll down)
I've tried loads of different combinations to get it to scroll like the dpad.
If anyones got it working can you post how please?

stmcgill said:
see title- is there a third party application that can do this? Also, the buttons settings shows button 2 and 3- where on earth are they?
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the missing buttons refer to the volume buttons. just press and hold to activate them.

I've mapped button 2 and 3 and button 2 hold and button 3 hold to scroll up and scroll down.
The hold buttons work OK but they aren't usable as a scroller as it takes too long to activate but If I map the normal buttons to scroll up and down they still only change volume. If I map them to launch contacts they launch this fine some of the time but not always and other times they just change the volume. So no can do. This by the way is using pocket plus' built in button mapping program.
Jeremy

Software buttons working in Java apps

Hi,
I'm having a problem with Java apps and I did not find a solution for it for 2 weeks now so I decided to try experts help.
I wanna play some Java games but none of them seem to recognize the software buttons that are as you know located on the touch screen. I think Java apps do not realize that there's a touchscreen at all. I tried apps like AEBButtons (or something) to remap other hardware key but none seemed to work Is there a solution?
I'm using JBed 20080222.3.1
Please help.

I think you have to use AE Button Plus or go to button icon under settings to map the left and right softkeys. Those are the buttons shown on screen but cant be used by Jbed.
Hope that helps.

Yeah !! This works but I can define only one button there (camera button). Is there a way to add more buttons, like D-pad directions as you've said ??

I actually ended up using the volume up and down buttons as the left and right softkeys through AEBPlus. But There are options for long press button actions and other things so its just finding which button suits you best. BTW, I tried adding actions to the D pad but never managed it using AEBPlus (it didt recognise it when i pressed it).

Assigning Buttons

Okay, I can see that I can assign long-press Send and End keys, but I want to assign a function to the Back key (short press) - can it be done?

since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...

I'm not sure that Volume slider has been mappable on any of these devices. Previously I used SPB PocketPlus to map buttons, but on the HD the poplists in the setup don't work so I can't try it...

I am currently using AEBPlus to assign the buttons.I was able to map volume up, volume down and ok buttons to various functions.But unfortunately I am unable to map the HOme button.Can anyone let me know how to assign some functions for HOme button using AEBPlus please?
regards
vijay

Brilliant! AE Button Plus works perfectly, OK=Back. I love this site...

any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?

truthseekers said:
any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?
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You don't need to ask the same question wherever you go and also create a thread for that!

ok
i see what you mean. I just figured it might not get read if here at the end of an older thread... hehe you mods notice everything ;-)

Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.

eaglesteve said:
Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.
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Yes you can.

panosha said:
Yes you can.
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Beauty!
Then I have no more issue with the lack of D-pad now.

panosha said:
Yes you can.
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Could you explain how to configure to apply to on off button.
Aside from that, does someone know how to get "long" working?
It tried to give the "Back arrow" additional functions.
1,2,3 times work fine, but long does not.
Also what is the default action of "Back arrow"
I do not find it on the list? Which number
So I could configure 1 times with default action
and 2 and 3 with something else.

Home button on AE plus
Has anyone found the home button "name" in AU Button plus yet?
This thread mentioned the name for the "back"-button is "OK" in AE button plus and that does work. (except foor the long press option, that I could not get to work, but double tap works fine)

pzucchel said:
since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...
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pzucchel, I'm with you! I've realised that I actually used the scroll wheel on the Trinity much more than the D-pad, so AE buttons is a godsend!
I've got volume up/down to become arrow up/down, but how about the Trinity press-to-select on the scroll wheel? I can't get the long press on the vol buttons to work otherwise it'd be perfect...

What version of AEBPlus are you using?
I installed AEBPlus 2.6.3 to enable turning the screen while pressing the volume up button.
This version is a 14 day trail version, there is however a freeware 1.0.1 version but that one is not officialy supporting the Blackstone.
Which version are you using? I find $14 a lot for changing the behaviour of one key...

AEButton will NOT stop working after 14 days, and all the functions you really want will still be there
What is the difference between trial and registered version?
Two things only:
1. Splash screen appears during device starting up.
2. "Action list" is blocked in trial mode
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http://ae.inc.ru/aebplusfaq.php

Good to know! Didn't see that when reading the website...
Anyway - is there an easy trick to assign the "volume up" pressed for >1 sec to rotating the screen to landscape (270 deg) and portrait?
/me is thinking of a registry tweak...

I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?

tomasn said:
I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?
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There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654

Yerry said:
There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
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OK, I can see that you want to push your own solution but as far as I can see it does not support the Home button either. Also it supports a lot fewer actions than AE Button Plus does.

Which buttons can be assigend by AE Button Plus?

In AE Button Plus I only could assign the two phone buttons. What about the "Home Button", "Back Button", "Calendar" and "Contacts"?

The back button can be assigned. Assign things to the "OK-button" i AE Button Plus to assign it to the back button.

Great! Thank you very much.

Hi, here is a reply on AEB Plus compatibility with the HD direct from the developer:
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Hello David,
Thanks, it is always nice to know if you find this utility interesting
As for your question: yes, BPlus is compatible with HD as well as any other PocketPC 2k3 / PocketPC 2k3SE / WM5/WM6/WM6.1 devices.
The problem I know on Touch HD:
- Home key may not be remapped due to driver implementation
- Long keypresses are not detected in BPlus for green/red keys and “back” button (button driver limitation).
- “Back” button corresponds to the “Ok” in button list so you will not need to add it via File->Add key but just re-define “Ok” button instead
- Backlight controlling will work in next BPlus release (should appear this week)
Anyway – just try and install BPlus to check if it will suit your needs before buying. It have very few “demo” mode limitations...
Regards,
Alexander
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all keys except home key works great on mine

By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?

mirandolo said:
By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?
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Don't forget the Volume Buttons (long-press DOES work for those two)

Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations

triffonovm said
[- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?]
Confirmed.
John R

triffonovm said:
Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations
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I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?

Regarding the back key. I have this not mapped for one touch, i.e., normal OK operation, and for double press I have it rotate the screen.
I don't like gsen and the gyrator - great apps but I just don't need them always there.

dannyng said:
I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?
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I have this problem too! Any solution to share?

That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.

Cheesy Dave said:
That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.
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I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).

Thanks for the fix!
I shall try it tonite!

Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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I just tried it and it doesn't work. I guess it's a bug and need to be fixed by the developer. Hmmmm, just suprised that no one really notice this bug.

Same bug on volume up. I assigned 1P for standard function and 2P for WiFi toggle. Well after the first or second use, it looses mapping. To have it to work again a soft reset is needed...

Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.

Insane Devil said:
Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.
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I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.

Cheesy Dave said:
I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.
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Glad that it work for you (so envy, hehehehe) and thanks for the email to the developer.
Wondering why some HTC HD working (removing the volume slider option) and some not (like my case )

any ideas for configuring home key and backspace key ?

any ideas for configuring home key and backspace key ?
i've tried with AE Button, but it doesn't work claerly.
or maybe there are somewhere regkeys ?
i don't think, that this is hardcoded somewhere .... or ?
some ideas ?
cu camel

As I know, the 'Home' key is not configurable in HD, not sure about the 'Back' key.
camro said:
any ideas for configuring home key and backspace key ?
i've tried with AE Button, but it doesn't work claerly.
or maybe there are somewhere regkeys ?
i don't think, that this is hardcoded somewhere .... or ?
some ideas ?
cu camel
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The "back" key is mapped as "OK button" in AEButtons, and can be configured. The home one seems to be almost impossible to do as said by AEB devver

bbonzz said:
The "back" key is mapped as "OK button" in AEButtons, and can be configured. The home one seems to be almost impossible to do as said by AEB devver
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the back key is not fully able to configure.
if you try to set : "left button" and then try the button always go to home screen and then "left button".
if you try it ex: under "programms" go to lnext left icon -> then it jumps back to "home" screen + left
cu camel

well - i'm trying to find out how to map the keys on HTC Blackstone....
here is also a interesting link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3144390#post3144390
for now i know:
TOP:
Power Button can fully handled (short click + long click) via lnk file.
LEFT: (there are 2 buttons)
Can fully remapped via AEB Plus (1-,2-,3-short click, + long click).
BOTTON:
there are 4 buttons:
"Green Key",
-> mapping possible via AEB Plus,
but for long key you have to use: AEBPlus + Button: "Button1(Hold)" - don't ask me why, bnut it works on this way..)
"Home Key"
-> nothing possible !!!
"Back Key"
-> not really mapable (mapping possible, but always send to wanted mapping ~backspace and jump back to Homescreen and then the mapped button will execute - little bit strange ..)
Longpress also doesn't work
"Red Key",
-> mapping possible, but without Long Press
tried with aebutton also (last version)
some additional ideas ?
cu camel