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TomTom - GPS receiver with short memory?

Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures. The Problem is they seem to be for people who can't get TomTom working at all. I can get it working, just awkwardly.
Once I pair with my GPS receiver and go into TomTom i can get a connection. However when i quit TomTom and turn off the GPS it seems to forget. Next time I turn it on I don't get a connection.
The way I understand TomTom is that it seems to wait for the GPS receiver to contact the phone. This seems odd as I would have thought the phone would be the one to initiate contact.
Anyway my GPS receiver just seems to forget what phone it was connected to. TomTom obviously isn't forgetting the port, windows obviously isn't forgetting the pairing. But Every time I use it I have to re-pair the receiver (thus reminding the receiver of the phone it's supposed to be bonded to). It's beginning to drive me a bit insane.
Anyone else have this issue? Perhaps it's to do with my incoming and outcoming ports? Hopefully someone has already solved this? Not seen any references to it anywhere.
Lewis

Hello,
Which version of Tomtom are you using ? The last one (5.21) ? If not, try to upgrade and try again.

Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis

BigDamHero said:
Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis
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Don't mean to be picky, but 5.2 or 5.21?
I've held off installing TTN on my Wizard, as it works fine on my iPAQ 4700, I have a cradle for that, and according to ttcode, my current device is actually my old 3970, not the current iPAQ... Last week, I had a couple of hour drive to do, so I thought I'd give it a whirl. After an email exchange with TomTom support (who were more helpful than I'd originally given them credit for), I had a new activation code for the Wizard. Here's what I did, from a fairly recent hard reset with no previous TTN install whatsoever. Skip the mail if it doesn't look helpful, but I'll detail my steps in case it helps anyone else...
Although I believe the PC install is mended in 5.21 I copied the map and voice cab files from the CD to my SD card and installed them from there. The GPS drivers and main app I installed from the download I got from the TomTom support site by running the setup util on my PC. Once everything was installed, I moved the maps which seemed to finish up in a sub-directory on the card to the root of the card.
I paired the GPS (my old Emtac BT one) and selected serial port profile. I tried all the offered serial ports in the "Other BT GPS" list in TTN but none worked. Then I went to 'COM Ports' in Comm Manager/Bluetooth Settings and selected "New Outgoing Port". I picked the GPS from the list of paired SPP devices, and it created a new BT COM port on COM6. That definately hadn't been in TTN's list of BT com ports before, but is now there in the list with about half a dozen others. I selected that in the "Other BT GPS" list of BT ports, and TTN connects to the GPS each time.
As I said, I'd recently hard reset the device to try and prove a problem with my BT car-kit soit's quite possible the clean install was the secret, but try creating a new outgoing COM port against the GPS and see if TT remembers that...
Dox

BigDamHero said:
Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures.
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Which?
There are 2 general ways to set it up, 1 works 100% (i use it so know it does ) 1 i dont use and have never tried so may well work in the reverse direction and be causing you errors.
The way i set up tomtom; pair the BT GPS. Open an OUTGOING port to the BT GPS, set my GPS as OTHER (wired/cable) NEMA device (NOT bluetooth) in TTN5. now my tomtom connects to the bluetooth, not the otherway round. This method has thrown up no errors for me at all.
If you have followed the reg edit/hack to show the GPS page in connections then i dont know how the settings differ and the possible results this could have on connection issues.
Let us know which way you are going

I have the exact problem as BigDamHero. Each time I wanna use TTN, I need to delete the previously paired BT GPS and then pair it again, otherwise the TTN will just say No GPS Device. I use TTN v5.21 and Wizard with Windows Mobile 5. I tried my BT GPS device on my brother's PDA which runs on Windows Mobile 3, and it connects like a gem every time. I am also looking if anyone has solved this issue, cos it is tedious re-pairing every time.

Had the same problem until 5 mins ago! Found an explanation in another thread, but only in Dutch..
Here's how to do it:
Turn on GPS
Activate bluetooth on device, go to BT parameters, delete previous pairing like you're used to
Create new pairing, choose GPS, enter passkey, check Serial port in services, go to COM ports and add outgoing port (e.g. COM6) like you're still used to :roll:
Add an incoming port too (e.g. COM7) <-- Here's the trick!
Set your GPS apps to use COM6 (the outgoing one)... and here you are! This time it will work, you can turn off GPS and device bluetooth, turn on again and it will connect by itself.
If you want a bit more you can activate GPS panel, set program port to COM8 (then you will have to use this in your apps) and COM6 as hardware port.
Everything works fine now!

hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.

toneslee said:
hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.
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I did everything in the list except for creating the incoming port and it still works everytime (I know that's no consellation to you). I wonder if something else you've installed, or the way you installed the app is causing the problem? Is it worth a hard reset and trying the entire install on a clean wizard?
Dox

A friend didn't need the incoming port either. I believe it has something to do with the GPS, as he has a different brand than me.
With mine, before adding the incoming port if I started an app without erasing/redoing the pairing before I would get a notification saying "Navman GPS wants to connect" and asking me to pair. It would keep coming every 10 seconds whatever I did.

BigDamHero, what brand / model of GPS is it?
Maybe we can see if anybody here, or over on pocketgpsworld has been able to make the same combination work and if so, what they had to do to get it to fly...
Dox.

well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.

toneslee said:
well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.
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A quick glance at pocketgps suggests others are having similar issues. There's a thread here that suggests leaving it a while, and I seem to remember other GPS issue threads saying power up the GPS and let it get a fix before starting TTN. A more detailed probe round the forum will probably show more of the same.
Dox

I've just flashed my Qtek 9100 to a new ROM, (the O2 one), and since then I've been getting this same problem. With my previous ROM everything worked fine. I was able to turn of either my PDA or GPS, and they would always auto-reconnect in a few seconds. Looks to me like something broke during one of the ROM changes. Which ROM versions does everyone with/without this problem have?
By the way, I have a BT77 GPS.

Hey sorry for the total lack of reply. Been snowed under with exams.
Ok I tried most of what you guys said but didn`t work. BT ports aren't available to select as hardware ports.
However I have managed to solve it. The key was to pair the GPS, and create an UNENCRYPTED OUTGOING port. That's all. Previously I had encrypted ports outgoing and incoming. My GPS applet in control pannel is set to none so it,s nothing to do with that.
I don't know what my GPS is. Its unbranded. One of the cheap common ones.
Hope this helps some people with the same problem.
Lewis

Google Maps

Any success anyone in using the built-in GPS with Google maps? No problem with TomTom, Copilot or Pocket streets, but the darn google maps (that obviously has the best maps), won't use the GPS. I set the Hardware port to COM4 and tried every speed possible (the others seems to work fine at 115200). Any tips anyone?

lbarouf said:
Any success anyone in using the built-in GPS with Google maps? No problem with TomTom, Copilot or Pocket streets, but the darn google maps (that obviously has the best maps), won't use the GPS. I set the Hardware port to COM4 and tried every speed possible (the others seems to work fine at 115200). Any tips anyone?
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Nope. I've searched everywhere and there was one hack but I never tried it. I just downloaded Microsoft's Live Search, which is free, and this works perfectly and is just like Google Maps....and arguably better. Easily configured to your built in GPS and you're on the way. Hope this helps.

I have to agree Microsoft's Live Search is great !!!
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Nope. I've searched everywhere and there was one hack but I never tried it. I just downloaded Microsoft's Live Search, which is free, and this works perfectly and is just like Google Maps....and arguably better. Easily configured to your built in GPS and you're on the way. Hope this helps.
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After trying to get Google Maps to work for a while with obviously no success, I ran across this post (thank you!!!). I just installed it from (http://mobile.search.live.com/about/default.aspx) and it works incredibly well.
FYI, these are the settings I have that work (after reading the GPS posts) for the GPS Settings tabs:
• GPS program port - (None)
• GPS hardware port - COM5 with 9600 baud rate
• Access - Manage GPS automatically is CHECKED
This really is going to make me wonder how Navigation companies like TomTom are going to survive in the future. Why will people pay for something when they have the wireless internet and programs like Live Search for free. Anyways, the GPS worked perfect and even get's a signal inside my office, which was impossible with my bluetooth GPS I have.

Yep, Windows live! is the way forward until GoogleEarth Mobile gives you an option to tell you where the GPS is, rather than trying to auto find it, and doing it rather badly. Especially when Live!, TT and Reperion have no difficulty locating the signal via the GPS applet. But then you can point them at the comport, unlike Gearth.
As for these systems replacing personal nav systems, I still use TT for my navigating to places I need to get to. I find its features far easier to use than Windows Live! and also TT doesn't fail when I'm outside a 3G or GPRS connection! But perhaps in 5 years time, server based navigation will be the future - its just to immature at the moment though.

olliesshop said:
After trying to get Google Maps to work for a while with obviously no success, I ran across this post (thank you!!!). I just installed it from (http://mobile.search.live.com/about/default.aspx) and it works incredibly well.
FYI, these are the settings I have that work (after reading the GPS posts) for the GPS Settings tabs:
? GPS program port - (None)
? GPS hardware port - COM5 with 9600 baud rate
? Access - Manage GPS automatically is CHECKED
This really is going to make me wonder how Navigation companies like TomTom are going to survive in the future. Why will people pay for something when they have the wireless internet and programs like Live Search for free. Anyways, the GPS worked perfect and even get's a signal inside my office, which was impossible with my bluetooth GPS I have.
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Glad it worked for you. Live will work well with most configurtions, thank goodness. Not sure what the fellas as Google were smoking when they developed an app that uses GPS and left the manual config option out. Especially with a new and not throughly tested app. I hate to admit it but Microsoft saved the day on this one.

Have a look how it responds with Fransons GPS Gate installed or the other free to use GPS Port splitter software, I have no way of testing this at the moment as no "real" PC connection to use, Franson sorted out a similar issue with certain software problems on the P3300 and sound similar - Mike

GPS device

Hi
I just bought an GPS-Mouse, in order to make TOMTOM usefull.
It worked a couple of days ago, but TOMTOM can't find the GPS-device now.
Does somebody have some usefull tips for me?
(GPS mouse is a Adapt AD-500 GPS Bluetooth receiver)
Cheers

I only use holux, but try restarting phone that usually helps

xboxhaxorz said:
I only use holux, but try restarting phone that usually helps
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Yup same here, Holux M-1200 with iGo MyWay software. But are you sure you set up a secure connection with the bluetooth and set it as a com port 6 or 7 with the correct baud rate? Did you follow everything step by step in your manual for the tomtom?

Well, I tried to follow the manual, but it didn't really help me. There was very little information in the manual, and the information in it was not very clear. The fact is, that it worked a couple of days ago, and now I cannot connect anymore...

I have a motorola BT GPS, supposedly motorola is rock-solid, but I've had troubles with it at times. Rebooting the phone would work occasionally, turning off the GPS would work occasionally, turning off both would work occasionally, if you get the picture, no ONE thing did it each time.
Recently, I found Franson GPSGate (the full version) This keeps a good connection with the bluetooth GPS better than it ever has been before, even when walking away from and then back to the gps device. It also generates a comport that multiple GPS programs can use at once. Very handy little program.
Hope it helps someone.

itrek bluetooth for me....
Do you know about the settings, External GPS icon on the Wing? Go in there and make sure you've got com port set i have mine at program port 6 which is where most gps like to sit for some reason but if it's not working for you play with that setting unfortunately it's trial and error but play with it. I don't know what you'd need "hardware port" for but since you're using a mouse and not a bluetooth unit can't hurt to play with that too, and in the last screen be sure you've got "manage automatically" checked, or maybe you need to uncheck it. All stuff to play with. Did you put any software on lately that could have hosed something? Did you try reloading tom tom? See if you can find one of those freeware utilities that talk to the gps unit and see if it can find it.

This device doesnt have a internal gps correct ? I always thought it didnt but I see some people talking as if it does. Then again, you all wouldnt be buying externals if that was the case.

GPS

anyone put gps navigation on there phone and if so how did you do it would really love to do and which navigation did you use garmin or tom tom

i have garmin on my shadow but, i can't get it to work......i only have com port 6 and seven showing and i think i need com 4. The garmin works on my Blackjack 1 no problem. I remember having the same problem with some of the other HTC made phones and GPS, I just can't remember how i fixed it or which cab files fixed it! LOL! I'll figure it out and let ya know what fixes it.
I did install a file from modaco and also installed gpsid but my shadow still only shows com 6 &7. I do have both google maps and microsoft live search installed and running nice but, i really want to use garmin as it has the maps on the storage card and don't need to be downloaded from the net.
I don't have any service on this phone as yet, its locked to tmobile and i have ATT so until i can figure out how to unlock it i might just get a prepay simcard, if they have data.
I'll keep ya posted though!

I hope ur talking about a blutooth gps because the shadow doesnt have gps built in.

ya BT GPS, the problem i'm having is the same i had with my 8525, it just won't find the gps reciever. On the shadow i'm just showing com6 & 7 and i tried a file from modaco and gpsid but neither worked. W hat was funny was that when i set the hardware setting to the port i have set for the BT gps and then have garmin scan it finds it for a second and the bt activity light on the gps flashes for a second the stops. It will never fully connect since the gps is not a built in device.

I use a sm bt gps and I do not have any problems at all. It is one that I picked up at buygpsnow.com or something like that. It usually connects to about seven sats and I use windows live search to chart my course. You could also use gmaps both are free. You can change com ports and add them through the activesync panel also. By the way I live in southern NH if that helps give you an idea of the ****ty reception around here and the bluetooth is good enough to drive by.

ya i can use Live search and google no problem but, i installed my Garmin software and it won't find my BT GPS. I had the same problem with another HTC phone and i even have the software to fix it.........i just can't remember what or where it is! LOL!! I use the Garmin on my BlackJack 1 with no problems and i was just playing with the shadow and thought it would be cool to see it run on it.

you can add more com ports through activesync and see if that works otherwise google is your friend. oh i see what your saying. Maybe the garmin only works in windows if it can read the software siugnature?

Well i have the garmin software running on my BJ1 and it works fine but i can set the port for my BT GPS to com port 4 and it works, i had this same problem on another HTC device and i can't remember what i di with the cab file that fixes it. LOL i have slept since then!
I get about 2-3 phones a month and i play round with them, mod them alittle bit then trade for another one, it is just away to keep me busy as i am hyperactive! LOL! I'll figure it out and then post back here with what i find.

i have a BT GPS and use it with google maps, MS live maps, and navizon all the time. no issues at all. (well i did, but now i have my G1, so the shadow has taken the role of backup phone atm...)

The COM port number will not affect the compatibility unless the Garmin program does not support COM higher than 5 for example which is very unlikely just make sure that when you setup the COM port to make an outgoing COM port and not an incoming one
Besides this, you can head to GPS passion, look there for one of the many testing applications and use it to test the GPS, if the programs are able to connect to the GPS then the setup is just fine and the proble might be a compatibility issue with the Garmin program
Also note that the available COM ports will change from model to model, in some cases, COM 4 will be free while other phones may already have assigned COM 4 to a hardware device or OS resource such as Bluetooth for example and the used COM ports cannot be freed this is why it is unlikely that your issue is related to having the GPS on COM 6,7

good info to kn00w

Tomtom7 GPS Fix + Google maps

Hey guys, I have always had issues with tomtom getting a sat fix for the longest while. A couple weeks ago when I was messing with tomtom i was like screw this and went to google maps and enabled the use gps feature and got a fix. I then went back to tomtom and my sats came up in 3 seconds or so. Now my question is ... is it a coincidence that my tomtom getting gps fix quickly whenever i use google maps to get a sat. Or is it some kind of internal gps storage thingy ... not sure what I am trying to say.
But still guys with the xperia who been having issues try getting a fix with tomtom and see how long it takes. Close tomtom and use google maps to get a gps location and after u do get yourself on gps, close google maps and go back to tomtom.
Let me know what you get, everytime I tried this it worked for me ... not sure why or what is going on. But tomtom7 takes forever to load up with the x1 compared to google maps.

I just posted on another thread that I think there is an issue with gps on x1. Mine was working super fast on both satnav and google maps and then just stopped working at all. I now have the same problem as another poster that my x1 will not get a lock at all so sending it back for replacement on advice from sonyericsson support.

load up google maps and get a fix then close google maps then load tomtom and see if u get anything then. That works for me.

No. Afraid even google maps doesnt get a lock at all. Tried pairing the phone with a bluetooth gps receiver and all software works perfectly and fast so definately a hardware problem on the phone sadly.

it might be nothing but...
i had a problem with tomtom:
gps nav was working (selected internal gps antenna) but screen was grey, i could see my movement but no calculations.
gps was working in google maps.
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Problem was: i disabled my phone in comms manager
off: aircraft mode
off: phone
on: bluetooth
on: wifi
tomtom says i'm in aircraft mode, and doesnt show collors, calculations or routes (actually it does show routes but doesnt update it when i change it).