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Am thinking of trading my Universal for someone's Wizard. Was wondering what you guys think of that.
Thoughts?
Offers?
Thanks!
Cyb
Do it and dont look back.
Main reason? EDGE compatibility. Especially as your in the US.
Only thing the Uni has that I want over and above the Wizard is VGA. But I can live with the tiny QVGA screen on the Wizard. The VGA screen is the main reason the Uni is so sluggish anyway, as it uses the processor as its video controller instead of a seperate VGA chip.
Cya
Stot
I suggest you check the Pocket PC forum on HowardForums.com first. Quite a few people are extremely unhappy with their Wizards, while owners of Universals seem rather happy.
You are stupid...
change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)
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change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)
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well I'm definately getting opinions! keep 'em coming...
Cyb
Ferarri - BMW.. Not entirely true.
The Universal on its face is a good device. But once you start using it it has its annoyances that can outweigh the VGA screen, the only great thing it has going for it. It has a faster CPU but its impacted by the fact that the CPU is drawing 4 times the screen real estate which slows it down a LOT.
Ram/Rom is the same
Both have a QWERTY K/B
Both have Bluetooth
Both have 1.3MP camera.
Also be aware that in the US there is no 3G WCDMA network, there is 3G EDGE rolling out tho, so the Wiz can go 3G out here.
Oh and the Wiz has Wifi b and g and will be upgradeable via rom to e and i too. Universal is b only.
IMO the Universal is a little too fragile also. Not sure about the Wiz as i havent got it yet but its on its way and I had a play with it. its seemed to be more sturdy.
So. Its more like comparing a Ferarri towing a caravan, looks great fairly slick and fast engine bogged down, to a Caterham 7. Looks great, bit smaller, less powerfull engine, fairly robust, No caravan.
Cya
Stot
i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike
i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike
The Wizard has a keyboard.....all right.....BUT, it doesnt have a separate row for numbers (0-9). It shares it with the qwert... keys, and that's simply bad!
IMHO, i think this is a handicap, and is a bad limitation for a device which claims to have a native hw based keyboard...
S
ferrari and BMW?
Think not you are giving the wizard too much credit.
Main problems with the wizard: Too small, it is a stuck up mda compact.
The processor is downright slow.
You are living in the US so yeah, edge is the only option for the 3g network.
Still I think you should not just throw it away and get the wizard.
Furthermore if you do change it is a waste of your money, as the wizard is much cheaper then the universal.
Offcourse there are problems with the universal... what did you expect.
The universal uses vga, which is not supported yet. It uses wm5 too which is not highly compatible with known programs either.
I suggest you wait a while before you do something I am sure you will regret sooner or later.
Thanks!
I want to thank you guys for your responses... I have decided to keep my universal and just continue to use my Sierra Wireless VOQ as a back up when the Uni is TOO MUCH
Now... let's begin with a new ROM...
Thanks again...
Cyb
Im down with the trade!!
I would check your exec they are just as cheap. I dropped my orange variant and the case split open. I am unbiased as I have both and actually vga is supported nativly since wm 2003. So it is not a new thing manuafactures choose not to implement screens.
Wizard thogh a tad slower gets the job done, remeber the tortoise and the bunny. Besides have you actually looked at the benchmarks for the exec they are not that inspiring.
I guess I am British in that sense I am used to waiting, like British transport you will be waiting but it will get yo there though.
battery life
however the wizard is like a moped sipping vegetable oil compared with the universal like a mustang on premium gas when it comes to battery life...
I was thinking about getting one but was wondering how it is to use as a everyday phone? is it just to damn big? manageable? will it fit in a pocket? any pocket? I have a herald now and my my main reason for thinking about the switch is texting and wifi surfing (vga screen has gotta make it a joy to use). anyone have any build quality issues? im uber anal about build quality,especially at this price!! any other comments are welcome. Oh I did read some reviews and went through on here but I wanna know what the real life owners think after owning it for a while.
i got it , and i say it's almost accommodate %95 for everyday use , it has all features that you need , you never get stuck in any place you go , i mean when i'm in internet cafe i use wifi ,
when i want to listen to a song the original headset make it very coool and it rocks really they have a hi quality ,
when i want to take a photo in with my friend in college it shot nice though it have a 1.3 MP it can expand to 2 MP ( in camera options ) and the color and details is very good
and when playing a video clip it have a very very nice quality ( with VGA screen and 520 MHz) it's very powerful ,and it can play %90 of known multimedia files ( by using Core Player )
and it got very powerful application to be be used for every day task
and and and and............. , i recommended it by %95
very stylish device
i use it as everyday phone, organiser and modem for laptop. very pleased. Phone is a bit clunky, using stylus to dial can be a fiddle, but no problems otherwise. Works great with bluetooth headset and voice dial
regards,
Brian.
Use it as an every day phone. VGA mode, VJBigPhone and use my finger for dialling - no problems at all. Only thing is that I cant have anything else in the pocket I put it in, but thats no big deal.
sigh, i really wish i could hold one before I buy it. it sounds like im gonna need my own private shirpa to lug it around for me!!
honestly there are only 2 reasons im thinking about getting one..
1) surfing the net. Im hopeing that between the bigger screen and the vga resolution that it will format webpages better than the qvga "smaller" screen of my herald (i hate scrolling)
2) .......well maybe there is only the one reason, lol! i feel like a flake. im still pretty new to the windows seen as i have been a symbian guy for a loooong time.
I suppose honestly I use it as a phone first and everything else second. how would y'all rate the build quality on this thing?
VJBigPhone???
I use my Vodafone V1640 as an every day phone. It is quite chunky in the pocket, but I'm quite used to it now. I love the fact that it can be sat on the desk like a little laptop, so I can browse websites without having to actually hold the device during lectures at uni.
I'd love to have a thinner phone though.
Build quality: quite good, the hinge is still in very good form after about half a year's usage.
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJBigPhone
Never had a problem with build quality, in fact had less problems with this phone than I did with the Alpine.
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http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJBigPhone
Never had a problem with build quality, in fact had less problems with this phone than I did with the Alpine.
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Sweet, thanks man!!
Another question, are there any draw backs to the vga hack? will it still run qvga apps?
Some - not all. I use VGA all the time as I love the amount of info I can see on the screen.
For instance the built in games (Solitaire etc) don't scale particularly well, and I emailed the guy who wrote PocketConquest etc to inform him that his games didn't work in 640x480 but apart from that not had any problems.
Applications I use on a near daily basis:
Calendar,
Pocket Outlook (Text messages AND Email),
Internet Explorer,
Notes,
Pocket Word,
Adobe Reader 2.0,
Microsoft Remote Display Control,
Pocket Excel,
Terminal Services (with full-screen hack)
I also have PocketPutty which I use fairly frequently and am looking for a decent VNC client.
G
I use it as my primary Jack-of-All-Trades device.
It's my PDA, my phone, my remote control, my book reader, my GPS system, my car MP3 player, my secondary Internet booth, my gamebox, my e-mail reader (I'm driving Blackberry sh*t out of my company!).
Often I carry it in my hands, or a shirt pocket. In the car it's stored in the door.
With PocketBreeze and a new original battery from e-Bay for a mere fraction of O2 replacement price, I'm now a happy camper!
I have used it as a every day phone now for allmost one and a half year. Last weekend i replaced it out with a Motorola A780. Now it feels like i dont have any phone in my pocket becuase of the size (even though A780 is also a big cell phone).
I think the universal is a good pda, but as a phone it isent reliable. I have tried out a lot of diffrents radio versions but it is still unstable.
But, one day i will switch back to my Universal, and that day we will have fully linux support in it. And then it will be reliable again
wow, thank you for all the replies!!!
I have one on the way and I can't wait to get it!
I picked up a moto pebl to use if I wanna go out and only want a small phone (like the bar or formal functions) I can't remember the last time I was this pumped abut getting a new phone! man, the uni owners seem to be a most loyal crowd. Again, any and all comments are welcome as I don't know my a** from my elbow with not only the uni but PPC as well.
For me the size of the Universal becomes a problem only during summer months. Wearing shorts etc.
Apart from that it fits perfectly in my trousers,jacket pockets.
To be honest because of it's shape I prefer to carry it in the pocket than my Wizard, it just fits better...
But yeah, sometime the freezing and other "adventures" drive me mad!!!
If ya wanna get your hands round one just pop into a phone shop and ask around,,, im sure pleanty of places still have one or two left instock as this is the kinda phone only the people who want it buy, if ya want it ya get it,,, ive never turned back and its my best toy to date :lol:
-DTM
Use it every day. Never had a problem and everything is at hand. Can't fault it.
Used it every day for work and home, found it to be great, i have 2 of them But now i have a wizard and its much better than the Exec as a phone....
stevef1
Well, I got it.....
NOt sure if I like it yet or not. seems like most of the apps I have don't work due to the screen
I can't even get marsware weatherpanel to work. I may end up trading it off but im not to sure yet. that and the rf dont seem to great where I live but ill give it a bit more time.
Anyone wanna trade me??
I will say that I love the keyboard and the screen is amazing!!! Size isn't to bad and weight dont bother me none either. I have only had the phone for a few hours so ill give it some time before making a decision.
razamataz said:
Well, I got it.....
NOt sure if I like it yet or not. seems like most of the apps I have don't work due to the screen
I can't even get marsware weatherpanel to work. I may end up trading it off but im not to sure yet. that and the rf dont seem to great where I live but ill give it a bit more time.
Anyone wanna trade me??
I will say that I love the keyboard and the screen is amazing!!! Size isn't to bad and weight dont bother me none either. I have only had the phone for a few hours so ill give it some time before making a decision.
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Upgrade the ROM and start to explore the Uni - you will very quickly find any other phone wholly inadequate!
apd said:
Upgrade the ROM and start to explore the Uni - you will very quickly find any other phone wholly inadequate!
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upgrade to what rom? I'm I have wm6 on here or is that not what you mean? is there a "best rom" to use?
Hey i have a few questions. I own a HTC TYTN and i'm looking for a new phone, and i'm not sure if i wanna get the X7501 or the Kaiser? What do you think?? size doesn't really matter to me. i'm just looking for the most functional phone. thanks for any help!!
get the htc x7500 if you know other people with cell phone that have a front cam. if not then get the x7501 but both r def better then the kaiser
irus said:
get the htc x7500 if you know other people with cell phone that have a front cam. if not then get the x7501 but both r def better then the kaiser
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Is that the only difference between the x7500 and x7501???
lino8419 said:
Hey i have a few questions. I own a HTC TYTN and i'm looking for a new phone, and i'm not sure if i wanna get the X7501 or the Kaiser? What do you think?? size doesn't really matter to me. i'm just looking for the most functional phone. thanks for any help!!
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Silly question to ask in an Athena forum! Given the Athena's size, if you're not sure you should read the many threads here on how wonderful it is.
The kaiser is a great phone if you are worried about size, The only drawback of the Athena is it's big - but that's because it has a massive screen.
It is the best 'device' just not as good as a phone. It depends what you want.
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The kaiser is a great phone if you are worried about size, The only drawback of the Athena is it's big - but that's because it has a massive screen.
It is the best 'device' just not as good as a phone. It depends what you want.
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confucious is right with regard to the size. i predominantly use my Athena as a standalone office and browsing gadget. i can remote desktop, watch films and even youtube (though i NEVER thought the day would come!). I Rarely/never use the athena as a phone as i cant be bothered faffing about with bluetooth headsets, and it would bother me to be seen holding it to my head, so I just use an N95 for out-and-about. Other people get along fine with bluetooth kits AND without. its all down to personal taste.
The Kaiser has better connectivity than the Ameo as it supports category 6 HSDPA (3.6mbps) and the wonderous HSUPA. I believe it also supports EDR with its bluetooth 2.0.
I suppose the Kaiser is technically on a par with the Ameo in respect to its overall features, but its QVGA screen does look a little jagged and wishy washy when you're used to an athena.
if HTC recalled all the Kaisers and stuck a VGA screen on board then they would have a damn near unbeatable and future-proof bit of kit, and id sell my arse to get one, but until that day im sticking with my athena.
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confucious is right with regard to the size. i predominantly use my Athena as a standalone office and browsing gadget. i can remote desktop, watch films and even youtube (though i NEVER thought the day would come!). I Rarely/never use the athena as a phone as i cant be bothered faffing about with bluetooth headsets, and it would bother me to be seen holding it to my head, so I just use an N95 for out-and-about. Other people get along fine with bluetooth kits AND without. its all down to personal taste.
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I would never hold it to my head but am happy to use a BT headset. I also use the web all day, have instant email etc etc etc. I just simply couldn't manage without the wonderful screen, especially at 128dpi
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I would never hold it to my head but am happy to use a BT headset. I also use the web all day, have instant email etc etc etc. I just simply couldn't manage without the wonderful screen, especially at 128dpi
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Ditto here.
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Ditto here.
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true true true
argh..
i cannot agree more with you! im used to the universal, loved the device in its vgamode.. then i broke it and now im stuck with a ****ty kaiser. WHY NO VGA!!!?? Maybe the glofish m600 would be a better step towards a smaller device but with vga? So no HSDPA 3.6mbit on athena?? thought it was?
I am probably gonna sell my Ameo in the next week or so
its in good condition (1or 2 tiny marks on the case where it rubs on the keyboard).
My Missus is giving me her new LG Viewty and im probably gonna get a laptop (EEE likely).
So how muchs it worth and does anyone here want to buy it. (UK BASED) sensible offers listened to
it has had a screen protector on it since the day i bought it
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I am probably gonna sell my Ameo in the next week or so
its in good condition (1or 2 tiny marks on the case where it rubs on the keyboard).
My Missus is giving me her new LG Viewty and im probably gonna get a laptop (EEE likely).
So how muchs it worth and does anyone here want to buy it. (UK BASED) sensible offers listened to
it has had a screen protector on it since the day i bought it
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I know I'm not always on best terms with my Ameo but the Viewty is horrendous. At least if the O2 branded version i played on is the same as the generic model.
Nice camera though.
With you on the EEE. I've found it very useful and very reliable since i bought it and if you're good with a solder there are various hdd/bluetooth dongle mods you can do.
Won't you miss the WMWIFIROUTER functionality of wm6 when on the move? I'd trade the Viewty in for a Kaiser while they're still going for good money!
Best of luck selling your Ameo anyway.
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I know I'm not always on best terms with my Ameo but the Viewty is horrendous. At least if the O2 branded version i played on is the same as the generic model.
Nice camera though.
With you on the EEE. I've found it very useful and very reliable since i bought it and if you're good with a solder there are various hdd/bluetooth dongle mods you can do.
Won't you miss the WMWIFIROUTER functionality of wm6 when on the move? I'd trade the Viewty in for a Kaiser while they're still going for good money!
Best of luck selling your Ameo anyway.
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i must admit you do tend to take a negative viewpoint of things.
Its going to be a Tmobile one and every review of it i have read is that is VERY GOOD! i will be using it as a modem for any laptop i get (USB connection)and it has a nice 3 inch screen for on the move watching and interneting and its compatible with Tmobile TV so SKY FOOTY for a £5.
Anyhow i will see how it is myself and if i dont like i can flog it for a very decent profit
Will be nice to have a phone that actually looks like a phone
again!
spacecat said:
i must admit you do tend to take a negative viewpoint of things.
Its going to be a Tmobile one and every review of it i have read is that is VERY GOOD! i will be using it as a modem for any laptop i get (USB connection)and it has a nice 3 inch screen for on the move watching and interneting and its compatible with Tmobile TV so SKY FOOTY for a £5.
Anyhow i will see how it is myself and if i dont like i can flog it for a very decent profit
Will be nice to have a phone that actually looks like a phone
again!
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You're right - I'm a very cynical character these days. I will admit that I didn't have it for much more than half an hour, but if I play on a normal mobile and don't like the GUI straightaway I tend to give up.
I found it hard to distinguish which icons did what, and didn't like the sms setup. I did like the way the screen vibrated though. The camera is EXCELLENT too, as I said. Probably the best I've seen.
I would be very interested to hear about your experience with the Viewty - I'm not stuck in my ways and am willing to persevere if something turns out to be worth the effort. I too read many reviews of the Viewty and the reviews were excellent. I actually took my Ameo into CEX to trade it for a viewty today (coincidence or what?), but as I said I didn't take to it as well as I thought I would.
I may go back and have another look. My eye is on the N95 8GB now though. I played on one but it was on Voda and £350 quid :-(
With the huge increase in RAM, slick and shiney look and big screen Its my next gadget. Unless the Viewty Proves better than first impressions
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I may go back and have another look. My eye is on the N95 8GB now though. I played on one but it was on Voda and £350 quid :-(
With the huge increase in RAM, slick and shiney look and big screen Its my next gadget. Unless the Viewty Proves better than first impressions
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was thinking about the N95 but it is infamous for having a crap battery life , its very pricey and the screen is to small for me. i want to get away from the wm6 experience and go full XP! hence the laptop.
Why r u not sticking with your Kaiser?
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was thinking about the N95 but it is infamous for having a crap battery life , its very pricey and the screen is to small for me. i want to get away from the wm6 experience and go full XP! hence the laptop.
Why r u not sticking with your Kaiser?
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n95 battery life is poor when hsdpa is activated, although this is the case with all hsdpa phones ive experienced when hsdpa is active - from the samsung z560, the tytn to the ameo and obviously the n95. I found with the n95 that if I changed the mode to gsm battery life was excellent and the browser still rendered web pages very quickly. the 8gb edition has a higher capacity battery than the original but I imagine the larger screen size negates any extra lifetime. its a very nice screen though - one of the biggest and sharpest I've seen on a normal handset.
I never actually bought a kaiser, it didn't really appeal for some reason. if it had a higher res screen I might've got it though.
don't think im helping your sale so for that I apologise.
I will spread the word for you though.
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You're right - I'm a very cynical character these days. I will admit that I didn't have it for much more than half an hour, but if I play on a normal mobile and don't like the GUI straightaway I tend to give up.
I found it hard to distinguish which icons did what, and didn't like the sms setup. I did like the way the screen vibrated though. The camera is EXCELLENT too, as I said. Probably the best I've seen.
I would be very interested to hear about your experience with the Viewty - I'm not stuck in my ways and am willing to persevere if something turns out to be worth the effort. I too read many reviews of the Viewty and the reviews were excellent. I actually took my Ameo into CEX to trade it for a viewty today (coincidence or what?), but as I said I didn't take to it as well as I thought I would.
I may go back and have another look. My eye is on the N95 8GB now though. I played on one but it was on Voda and £350 quid :-(
With the huge increase in RAM, slick and shiney look and big screen Its my next gadget. Unless the Viewty Proves better than first impressions
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I went to shop to look at N95 today and went away very happy. Very happy with my Dopod U1000. The N95 is useless for me. The screen is incredibly small, and internet browser takes forever to work. Makes my Dopod U1000's internet browsing feel like speed demon.
Spacecat, you're right about users having very positive reviews on this device. Viewty looks very interesting. The camera and video recording features are very nice. Imaging this:120fps in QVGA video recording mode! Unfortunately, I don't see any GPS. I also can't get a good idea of what internet browsing capability it has. It appears to have only a WAP browser, am I right?
For me, the number main features that I use on my mobile device is internet browsing, email, gps, VOIP, excel, expense tracking, videos and pictures. Camera is lower down on the list. So, although LG's device is such a viewty, I mean beauty, it does not suit me. I just love the MOBILE internet browing capability of Athena too much now. The grass on my side is greener! I wish I can buy your device. My wife and sons all want to have mine, but it's not for sales in Australia.
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Spacecat, you're right about users having very positive reviews on this device. Viewty looks very interesting. The camera and video recording features are very nice. Imaging this:120fps in QVGA video recording mode! Unfortunately, I don't see any GPS. I also can't get a good idea of what internet browsing capability it has. It appears to have only a WAP browser, am I right?
For me, the number main features that I use on my mobile device is internet browsing, email, gps, VOIP, excel, expense tracking, videos and pictures. Camera is lower down on the list. So, although LG's device is such a viewty, I mean beauty, it does not suit me. I just love the MOBILE internet browing capability of Athena too much now. The grass on my side is greener! I wish I can buy your device. My wife and sons all want to have mine, but it's not for sales in Australia.
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I will be using the viewty as a modem for a laptop as i do 90% of my out of the house browsing at work ! at my desk and u can use mobile mini for browsing on the phone. I dont have a car so GPS is not important
Apart from the 5 megapixel camera which im not that bothered about , it is compatable with T-Mobile Tv so i can watch sky matches for a £5 a month on the move, It supports DIVX playback out of the box and is SMALLER!
Im gonna try it out and see how i get on, if i dont like it then i will sell it ! basically im getting it for free so its a win win situation!
Hi guys,
After owning the device for 5 months I finally realized that this masterpiece is just too big to be used as a phone. it's an awesome device though.
ps. i am interested in the tytn II, maybe we can trade?
Anyone interested private message me for more details.
Thank you
haztoma said:
Hi guys,
After owning the device for 5 months I finally realized that this masterpiece is just too big to be used as a phone. it's an awesome device though.
ps. i am interested in the tytn II, maybe we can trade?
Anyone interested private message me for more details.
Thank you
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haztoma,
Do you have any requirements for a large VGA screen? Every tried realVGA yet? If you have not tried it, you should, and you may look at Athena differently.
However, if you have no requirements that you can think of for a large VGA screen, then a smaller QVGA screen phone would be more appropriate.
Just thought that I share my 2cents worth to help you decide if your decision is the best one. In any case, goog luck and all the best.
I think also that your price expectation is not realistic. A brand new one could be had in the low 600 now.
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haztoma,
Do you have any requirements for a large VGA screen? Every tried realVGA yet? If you have not tried it, you should, and you may look at Athena differently.
However, if you have no requirements that you can think of for a large VGA screen, then a smaller QVGA screen phone would be more appropriate.
Just thought that I share my 2cents worth to help you decide if your decision is the best one. In any case, goog luck and all the best.
I think also that your price expectation is not realistic. A brand new one could be had in the low 600 now.
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Eaglesteve is right: your price expectations are too high. There's a brand new Advantage (x7500) on Ebay here now for 340gbp (66o-something dollars) and Advantage's are quite rare here, owing to the market being swampedwith Ameos - the silver and white Advantages. These are available for as little as 240gbp (469usd) here despite having identical hardware to its black cousin.
I would consider sticking it out a bit unless you can find someone to swap with you. If you want the high res screen but aren't bothered about gps there are a few phones on the market that are cheaper than the TyTn 2 with similar functionlity (other than GPS) I believe Glofish make some, or the Toshiba G900 has a very nice screen and is on a par with the TyTn 2 in terms of power.
Hi guys,
thank you for your replies. I would hate to give up the htc, but I find the htc too slow for what i need it for. I am a physician and i was hoping to pull radiograms right to my HTC (that's why i got something with a VGA screen). the process is too slow. Also, I can't make use of the the occasional 5-10 minutes break i get to check my emails and surf the web because it's not fast enough. as for using it for watching youtube videos, FORGET IT the flash version available (i think version 7) either makes the htc freeze or give yous audio without video.
incidently, is there a hack that can make the thing run faster in exchange for battery life. I've installed everything on the microdrive to have as much memory read for running programs.
the camera is not very useful as the shutter speed is not very fast (image capture take about 5 seconds), it's embarrassing to ask people to stay REALLY still for 5 seconds to take an image! slowly moving objects looks out of focus (on my htc at least). is there away to allocate more memory to capture the image faster?
I've installed the black dual rom on it hoping things improve. some programs are just not ment to run on the x7500. eg the new pix viewer takes FOREVER to load the thumbnails. the origian pix viewer and resco pix view loads much faster.
One should have a lot of expectation out of this device after all it did cost $1200 (that's WAY more than my hp laptop).
I thought about the iphone too (seems to be much faster) but I have a lot of medical programs made for windows mobile. I would hate to carry books around in exchange for the simpler iphone.
When i travel, it's awesome for listening to music, playing movies, gps (a must), emailing, surfing the web, skyping, but all of which can be done with the smaller tytn II.
any other ideas how I can improve the advantage to my advantage?
haztoma said:
Hi guys,
thank you for your replies. I would hate to give up the htc, but I find the htc too slow for what i need it for. I am a physician and i was hoping to pull radiograms right to my HTC (that's why i got something with a VGA screen). the process is too slow. Also, I can't make use of the the occasional 5-10 minutes break i get to check my emails and surf the web because it's not fast enough. as for using it for watching youtube videos, FORGET IT the flash version available (i think version 7) either makes the htc freeze or give yous audio without video.
incidently, is there a hack that can make the thing run faster in exchange for battery life. I've installed everything on the microdrive to have as much memory read for running programs.
the camera is not very useful as the shutter speed is not very fast (image capture take about 5 seconds), it's embarrassing to ask people to stay REALLY still for 5 seconds to take an image! slowly moving objects looks out of focus (on my htc at least). is there away to allocate more memory to capture the image faster?
I've installed the black dual rom on it hoping things improve. some programs are just not ment to run on the x7500. eg the new pix viewer takes FOREVER to load the thumbnails. the origian pix viewer and resco pix view loads much faster.
One should have a lot of expectation out of this device after all it did cost $1200 (that's WAY more than my hp laptop).
I thought about the iphone too (seems to be much faster) but I have a lot of medical programs made for windows mobile. I would hate to carry books around in exchange for the simpler iphone.
When i travel, it's awesome for listening to music, playing movies, gps (a must), emailing, surfing the web, skyping, but all of which can be done with the smaller tytn II.
any other ideas how I can improve the advantage to my advantage?
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This radiogram stuff, are they just picture files? Hugh size? I never use the picture viewer of the cooked ROM but my resco picture viewer is quite fast. I've seen my GP using computers at work, but always on laptop computers rather than PDA.
Athena can never be used as a laptop although it can look like one. It's not fast enough for that purpose. You should be able to use email very fast, unless you're dealing work very large attachments and graphic filled mails. Internet browser is still not fast enough especially if you have only 5 to 10 minutes extremely short break. There's not much we can do ATM on that. If mobility is not a real requirement, you might find that a sub notebook could work better for you. Would a sub notebook pull up your radiogram fast enough? Are you sitting in front of a desk with your patient or standing in front of a hospital bed when pulling in the radiogram? How do you get the radiogram into Athena? Special program? Are the radiogram on a server?
However, moving to a sub notebook, software availability could be a challenge, depending on what software you're using. Many medical reference type software are on WM6 platform but not sure if they're on XP platform. Of course they would run on tytn II.
Camera is pretty crapy for indoor use, but try using the action button to take picture as it's faster than pressing the camera button. With natural day light it's quite fast. If not, forget it. I use it quite frequently outdoor without problem. Using it inside my house during day is also acceptable. But I once tried taking my mother in law's birthday party picture at night, and it was a disaster. Yes, a very slight movement produced blurred image. Not only that, the quality of picture was really bad in terms of color and resolution. May be scaling the resolution down could help but haven't tried it.
I'm not sure if we can install wm2003 se on Athena. It will certainly make it fly. Wm5 can changed to the persistent memory mode, with big sacrifice in speed in favour of battery life. I personally also prefer the older approach. Not much we can do on that one. This applies also to tytn II.
So, looks like the expectation for it to work like a notebook could not be met, so a rethink is indeed needed to look for new means to meeting your requirements.
get an Asus EEE pc for £220( stick XP on it) and get an LG viewty.
Best of both worlds
cmon you all knew i was gonna say that
spacecat said:
get an Asus EEE pc for £220( stick XP on it) and get an LG viewty.
Best of both worlds
cmon you all knew i was gonna say that
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hahahaha self irony is the best from all worlds some times!
I think haztoma said he has lots of medical software that only run on Window CE platform.
Spacecat, I thought you would have learned that the choice of devices must depend on a user's requirement by now. If all that you're interested is to start wars everywhere, then do it. Otherwise, let's speak with constructive suggestions.
leoni1980 said:
Eaglesteve is right: your price expectations are too high. There's a brand new Advantage (x7500) on Ebay here now for 340gbp (66o-something dollars) and Advantage's are quite rare here, owing to the market being swampedwith Ameos - the silver and white Advantages. These are available for as little as 240gbp (469usd) here despite having identical hardware to its black cousin.
I would consider sticking it out a bit unless you can find someone to swap with you. If you want the high res screen but aren't bothered about gps there are a few phones on the market that are cheaper than the TyTn 2 with similar functionlity (other than GPS) I believe Glofish make some, or the Toshiba G900 has a very nice screen and is on a par with the TyTn 2 in terms of power.
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From what I have seen The X7501 is in the 600 to 700 dollar price range used, 899 new, but the X7500 is a more expensive device usually around 1000 too 1100 dollars new. Not sure what makes them different to justify the cost
eaglesteve said:
I think haztoma said he has lots of medical software that only run on Window CE platform.
Spacecat, I thought you would have learned that the choice of devices must depend on a user's requirement by now. If all that you're interested is to start wars everywhere, then do it. Otherwise, let's speak with constructive suggestions.
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so the sense of humour bypass was a success then?
spacecat said:
so the sense of humour bypass was a success then?
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Okay. Sorry. I forgot my own advice to not take you seriously.
cib911 said:
From what I have seen The X7501 is in the 600 to 700 dollar price range used, 899 new, but the X7500 is a more expensive device usually around 1000 too 1100 dollars new. Not sure what makes them different to justify the cost
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they must be more expensive your end of town then. The most you'll pay here is 450GBP, unless you shop somewhere like Expansys, but they're overpriced and don't dictate the market you're looking to sell to.
cib911 said:
From what I have seen The X7501 is in the 600 to 700 dollar price range used, 899 new, but the X7500 is a more expensive device usually around 1000 too 1100 dollars new. Not sure what makes them different to justify the cost
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i think it's the front camera for video calls. we don't have that available in the states yet, but it is in canada and europe.
i got the x7500 because america will soon catch up with the rest of the world and provide video call options and that tiny front viewer takes up the additional $200