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Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures. The Problem is they seem to be for people who can't get TomTom working at all. I can get it working, just awkwardly.
Once I pair with my GPS receiver and go into TomTom i can get a connection. However when i quit TomTom and turn off the GPS it seems to forget. Next time I turn it on I don't get a connection.
The way I understand TomTom is that it seems to wait for the GPS receiver to contact the phone. This seems odd as I would have thought the phone would be the one to initiate contact.
Anyway my GPS receiver just seems to forget what phone it was connected to. TomTom obviously isn't forgetting the port, windows obviously isn't forgetting the pairing. But Every time I use it I have to re-pair the receiver (thus reminding the receiver of the phone it's supposed to be bonded to). It's beginning to drive me a bit insane.
Anyone else have this issue? Perhaps it's to do with my incoming and outcoming ports? Hopefully someone has already solved this? Not seen any references to it anywhere.
Lewis
Hello,
Which version of Tomtom are you using ? The last one (5.21) ? If not, try to upgrade and try again.
Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis
BigDamHero said:
Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis
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Don't mean to be picky, but 5.2 or 5.21?
I've held off installing TTN on my Wizard, as it works fine on my iPAQ 4700, I have a cradle for that, and according to ttcode, my current device is actually my old 3970, not the current iPAQ... Last week, I had a couple of hour drive to do, so I thought I'd give it a whirl. After an email exchange with TomTom support (who were more helpful than I'd originally given them credit for), I had a new activation code for the Wizard. Here's what I did, from a fairly recent hard reset with no previous TTN install whatsoever. Skip the mail if it doesn't look helpful, but I'll detail my steps in case it helps anyone else...
Although I believe the PC install is mended in 5.21 I copied the map and voice cab files from the CD to my SD card and installed them from there. The GPS drivers and main app I installed from the download I got from the TomTom support site by running the setup util on my PC. Once everything was installed, I moved the maps which seemed to finish up in a sub-directory on the card to the root of the card.
I paired the GPS (my old Emtac BT one) and selected serial port profile. I tried all the offered serial ports in the "Other BT GPS" list in TTN but none worked. Then I went to 'COM Ports' in Comm Manager/Bluetooth Settings and selected "New Outgoing Port". I picked the GPS from the list of paired SPP devices, and it created a new BT COM port on COM6. That definately hadn't been in TTN's list of BT com ports before, but is now there in the list with about half a dozen others. I selected that in the "Other BT GPS" list of BT ports, and TTN connects to the GPS each time.
As I said, I'd recently hard reset the device to try and prove a problem with my BT car-kit soit's quite possible the clean install was the secret, but try creating a new outgoing COM port against the GPS and see if TT remembers that...
Dox
BigDamHero said:
Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures.
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Which?
There are 2 general ways to set it up, 1 works 100% (i use it so know it does ) 1 i dont use and have never tried so may well work in the reverse direction and be causing you errors.
The way i set up tomtom; pair the BT GPS. Open an OUTGOING port to the BT GPS, set my GPS as OTHER (wired/cable) NEMA device (NOT bluetooth) in TTN5. now my tomtom connects to the bluetooth, not the otherway round. This method has thrown up no errors for me at all.
If you have followed the reg edit/hack to show the GPS page in connections then i dont know how the settings differ and the possible results this could have on connection issues.
Let us know which way you are going
I have the exact problem as BigDamHero. Each time I wanna use TTN, I need to delete the previously paired BT GPS and then pair it again, otherwise the TTN will just say No GPS Device. I use TTN v5.21 and Wizard with Windows Mobile 5. I tried my BT GPS device on my brother's PDA which runs on Windows Mobile 3, and it connects like a gem every time. I am also looking if anyone has solved this issue, cos it is tedious re-pairing every time.
Had the same problem until 5 mins ago! Found an explanation in another thread, but only in Dutch..
Here's how to do it:
Turn on GPS
Activate bluetooth on device, go to BT parameters, delete previous pairing like you're used to
Create new pairing, choose GPS, enter passkey, check Serial port in services, go to COM ports and add outgoing port (e.g. COM6) like you're still used to :roll:
Add an incoming port too (e.g. COM7) <-- Here's the trick!
Set your GPS apps to use COM6 (the outgoing one)... and here you are! This time it will work, you can turn off GPS and device bluetooth, turn on again and it will connect by itself.
If you want a bit more you can activate GPS panel, set program port to COM8 (then you will have to use this in your apps) and COM6 as hardware port.
Everything works fine now!
hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.
toneslee said:
hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.
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I did everything in the list except for creating the incoming port and it still works everytime (I know that's no consellation to you). I wonder if something else you've installed, or the way you installed the app is causing the problem? Is it worth a hard reset and trying the entire install on a clean wizard?
Dox
A friend didn't need the incoming port either. I believe it has something to do with the GPS, as he has a different brand than me.
With mine, before adding the incoming port if I started an app without erasing/redoing the pairing before I would get a notification saying "Navman GPS wants to connect" and asking me to pair. It would keep coming every 10 seconds whatever I did.
BigDamHero, what brand / model of GPS is it?
Maybe we can see if anybody here, or over on pocketgpsworld has been able to make the same combination work and if so, what they had to do to get it to fly...
Dox.
well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.
toneslee said:
well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.
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A quick glance at pocketgps suggests others are having similar issues. There's a thread here that suggests leaving it a while, and I seem to remember other GPS issue threads saying power up the GPS and let it get a fix before starting TTN. A more detailed probe round the forum will probably show more of the same.
Dox
I've just flashed my Qtek 9100 to a new ROM, (the O2 one), and since then I've been getting this same problem. With my previous ROM everything worked fine. I was able to turn of either my PDA or GPS, and they would always auto-reconnect in a few seconds. Looks to me like something broke during one of the ROM changes. Which ROM versions does everyone with/without this problem have?
By the way, I have a BT77 GPS.
Hey sorry for the total lack of reply. Been snowed under with exams.
Ok I tried most of what you guys said but didn`t work. BT ports aren't available to select as hardware ports.
However I have managed to solve it. The key was to pair the GPS, and create an UNENCRYPTED OUTGOING port. That's all. Previously I had encrypted ports outgoing and incoming. My GPS applet in control pannel is set to none so it,s nothing to do with that.
I don't know what my GPS is. Its unbranded. One of the cheap common ones.
Hope this helps some people with the same problem.
Lewis
how easy is it to install tomtom 6 on a O2 EXEC and get it working with a bluetooth gps reciver?
Are there any/many cracked coppies of this floating arround?
Cheers
Oblique
oblique said:
how easy is it to install tomtom 6 on a O2 EXEC and get it working with a bluetooth gps reciver?
Are there any/many cracked coppies of this floating arround?
Cheers
Oblique
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Here's an idea: try not stealing.
i don't nomaly steal but as i don't know how stable tomtom works on my phone or how stable bluetooth gps works on my phone i am reluctant to spend 80quid to find out.
works very well, you have to config your exec to get TOMTOM to work with bluetooth gps( you can find that on here somewhere).
It works fine, but slower than on a QVGA screen device.
I have used v5 and v6 on AKU 2, 3, and now Crossbow ROMs, it works fine on the Universal, so you can buy it without worrying.
jowett69 said:
works very well, you have to config your exec to get TOMTOM to work with bluetooth gps( you can find that on here somewhere).
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You don't actually have to config anything if you have the TomTom GPS, it turns on BT itself, and finds it.
If you have a non TomTom BT GPS, simply pair it, and select an outgoing COM port, then when you fire up TomTom, tell it that it's a BT GPS on whatever port you chose.
All very easy.
cool, that is the kind of information that i was looking for, does anyone here use the live trafic update service? does it work well and divert you automaticly and how much does it cost to subscribe?
cheers
If I can remember, you and get 1 free month to try. Traffic is not always update!!!!!
It's good if there's a large incident, but in my experience you usually get stuck in things before they hit your device, and you see the road signs on motorways and things warning you anyway.
I stopped the subscripton, and just reroute myself if I see warnings, or hear something on the radio.
I am using TomTom 6 on my Exec now.
Previously used Navigon MN|5 which required *LOTS* of memory, so TomTom was a nice refreshment with its 7-9 MB memory trace.
Had problems setting up Bluetooth receiver. It wasn't showing up in the port list when I selected Bluetooth one. What I did was: added an incoming serial port, run TomTom and set port to this one (did not work yet!) then closed it and removed the port; after that TomTom just worked straight away At this point, an attempt to change port led to inability to get out of port selection, and you're buggered again. I'm sure that's some glitch, but I solved it anyway. May be there's a neater way of doing this.
But the software itself was good and stable, does what's on the tin, copy a directory to your card and you get Full Postcode navigation (very useful when finding businesses and not residential homes), and POI Warning function is built in now -- a *major* plus, never really got time to make POIWarner work properly. Tunnel mode -- progressive marker movement when lost GPS signal in a tunnel -- and that won my heart.
I do understand people's need to try BEFORE you buy, not after your money is tied up with some dud product and you get no refund. Go Trial, go.
Well in this case I'm pleased with TomTom 6 and its services. You can easily get a camera database each month from the Net and probably can live without Traffic service, but for me £33 a year doesn't seem too big a dent in my wallet - compared to £170-200 TMC receivers currently available on the market.
AlanJC said:
It works fine, but slower than on a QVGA screen device.
I have used v5 and v6 on AKU 2, 3, and now Crossbow ROMs, it works fine on the Universal, so you can buy it without worrying.
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AlanJC: Have you tried TT6 under WM6 and did all work well? Also, was TT6 happy after you upgraded the ROM - did you have any problems with TT6 thinking the Device Code had changed, thereby needing to re-register the software?
Any success anyone in using the built-in GPS with Google maps? No problem with TomTom, Copilot or Pocket streets, but the darn google maps (that obviously has the best maps), won't use the GPS. I set the Hardware port to COM4 and tried every speed possible (the others seems to work fine at 115200). Any tips anyone?
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Any success anyone in using the built-in GPS with Google maps? No problem with TomTom, Copilot or Pocket streets, but the darn google maps (that obviously has the best maps), won't use the GPS. I set the Hardware port to COM4 and tried every speed possible (the others seems to work fine at 115200). Any tips anyone?
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Nope. I've searched everywhere and there was one hack but I never tried it. I just downloaded Microsoft's Live Search, which is free, and this works perfectly and is just like Google Maps....and arguably better. Easily configured to your built in GPS and you're on the way. Hope this helps.
I have to agree Microsoft's Live Search is great !!!
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Nope. I've searched everywhere and there was one hack but I never tried it. I just downloaded Microsoft's Live Search, which is free, and this works perfectly and is just like Google Maps....and arguably better. Easily configured to your built in GPS and you're on the way. Hope this helps.
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After trying to get Google Maps to work for a while with obviously no success, I ran across this post (thank you!!!). I just installed it from (http://mobile.search.live.com/about/default.aspx) and it works incredibly well.
FYI, these are the settings I have that work (after reading the GPS posts) for the GPS Settings tabs:
• GPS program port - (None)
• GPS hardware port - COM5 with 9600 baud rate
• Access - Manage GPS automatically is CHECKED
This really is going to make me wonder how Navigation companies like TomTom are going to survive in the future. Why will people pay for something when they have the wireless internet and programs like Live Search for free. Anyways, the GPS worked perfect and even get's a signal inside my office, which was impossible with my bluetooth GPS I have.
Yep, Windows live! is the way forward until GoogleEarth Mobile gives you an option to tell you where the GPS is, rather than trying to auto find it, and doing it rather badly. Especially when Live!, TT and Reperion have no difficulty locating the signal via the GPS applet. But then you can point them at the comport, unlike Gearth.
As for these systems replacing personal nav systems, I still use TT for my navigating to places I need to get to. I find its features far easier to use than Windows Live! and also TT doesn't fail when I'm outside a 3G or GPRS connection! But perhaps in 5 years time, server based navigation will be the future - its just to immature at the moment though.
olliesshop said:
After trying to get Google Maps to work for a while with obviously no success, I ran across this post (thank you!!!). I just installed it from (http://mobile.search.live.com/about/default.aspx) and it works incredibly well.
FYI, these are the settings I have that work (after reading the GPS posts) for the GPS Settings tabs:
? GPS program port - (None)
? GPS hardware port - COM5 with 9600 baud rate
? Access - Manage GPS automatically is CHECKED
This really is going to make me wonder how Navigation companies like TomTom are going to survive in the future. Why will people pay for something when they have the wireless internet and programs like Live Search for free. Anyways, the GPS worked perfect and even get's a signal inside my office, which was impossible with my bluetooth GPS I have.
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Glad it worked for you. Live will work well with most configurtions, thank goodness. Not sure what the fellas as Google were smoking when they developed an app that uses GPS and left the manual config option out. Especially with a new and not throughly tested app. I hate to admit it but Microsoft saved the day on this one.
Have a look how it responds with Fransons GPS Gate installed or the other free to use GPS Port splitter software, I have no way of testing this at the moment as no "real" PC connection to use, Franson sorted out a similar issue with certain software problems on the P3300 and sound similar - Mike
Hi,
I own a GlobalSat BT328 (http://www.buygpsnow.com/GlobalSat-...-Performance-Bluetooth-GPS-(BT-328)__916.aspx)
I turned bluetooth on, made my 8525 able to discover other devices, I made a partnership with the BT-GPS-335A64 (no idea why it has a different name here), I then opened a new COM port called BT-GPS-335A64 (COM0).
I have my bluetooth device on, and I loaded up google maps. I tried to track my location..I don't need a fancy GPS device. I just need to be able to see where I am on a map.
Google Maps is not able to find my GPS reciever. How is this? My 8525 found it. I have no other way to even test if the GPS works or not. I don't want to spend money on a tomtom or anything. I just want to track my location and google maps sounded like a good idea.
Any suggestions? This bluetooth device is supposed to work with the 8525. It found it, but not sure why google maps can not.
Thanks =)
Change the com port to com4
I did that but Google Maps is still unable to find the GPS reciever even though I have them right next to each other. It is strange because my 8525 was able to locate the GPS when I partnered them in the settings and all.
Any other reasons why this might not work?
If you've never gotten a fix with that GPS unit before, it could take 10 minutes or more for it to determine its current location. Make sure you are in a clear area, and give it a good 10 minutes to make sure it has a fix before giving up on it. Also, you might try downloading a program called VisualGPSce, which shows the current satallite status and signal information, and you'll be able to watch it as it works on getting the fix.
HTH
Brian.
I downloaded that program. It says "Fix not available". I'm going to let it run and see what happens. I am trying this inside my dorm room, but I'll try it on the road tomorrow. I just hope I can get it to work.
If nothing shows up after 10 minutes then what should I do? Is it possible the GPS device is no good? I'm not asking for a lot out of it. I just want to see my location in case I get lost somewhere.
..I waited about 10 minutes and my GPS auto shut off. The 8525 never found a fix with that program.
Edit: I searched and people have got that device to work with the 8125 before, but I haven't seen anything about the 8525. I want it to work so bad.
I picked up a Bluetooth GPS unit for £18. It's a 44 channel unit and does a cold boot in 20 seconds, warm boot in 4 seconds, and a hot boot in 1 second. Lasts for like 3 months on standby and 20 hours when in use. I've even had it working when it's been sat in the passenger footwell and inside a house (by the window)
All in all a great little unit.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FASTEST-44-Ch...yZ156955QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I have the garmin mobile XT unit. it works great with the garmin software that came with it. what i have noticed, but haven't tested, is that it cannot pair with both google maps and the garmin software. this doesnt seem to effect you however.
i must say that i was able to ONCE and only ONCE out of many attempts get the GPS unit to come up on google maps. so it can be done, dont give up. it was neat to put it in satellite mode and see where i was. i agree it should be a lot simpler to do this, i think it was truly dumb luck the one time i was able to do it because each time i go back to try again it is not working. most GPS will pick up signal from a window, so its probably not that.
not sure if this is WM6 only, but in my setting>connection>external GPS there are a few options to tinker with.
GPS program port
GPS hardware port
and then the manage GPS automatically option
i feel like the first time i did get it to work, i never went into this menu. however the second time i tried, it gave me a message saying that the program and hardware ports could not be the same. then the third time i tried, it let them be the same, but still didn't work.
so unfortunately all i have to offer are a few tips to try and look at. i dont know enough about it to tell you what will make it work.
if you do get it to work please post back and let us know! i would love to be able to let my nav software run in the background and dictate for me which turns to make while i watch the world around me whiz by via satellite view =]
lsatblu said:
I downloaded that program. It says "Fix not available". I'm going to let it run and see what happens. I am trying this inside my dorm room, but I'll try it on the road tomorrow. I just hope I can get it to work.
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Inside your dorm room? At least tell me it is sitting on a window sill or somewhere that it can actually see the sky? If not, I'm not surprised it isn't working. For the first fix, take it outside where it can see as much of the sky as possible.
Brian.
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Change the com port to com4
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I set it to com port 4 and then had to go into the bluetooth settings and create a new com port and called it com port 4 and bingo everything started working.
Google Maps locates the GPS and position
TomTom found everything instantly when I set my GPS up in TomTom under com port 4.
Even WiFiFoFum is tracking everything perfectly.
I bought a JRT-29 for $61 it was one heck of a good deal. 42ch, Bluetooth reciever, included a car charger and usb cable. http://www.gpswindow.com/en/picture.asp?idtype=JRT28 (sorry the website sucks and I can't find the ebay auction that I bought it from)
My experience is that most of the GPS software is not designed to work with Com0... So, glad to hear change to Port 4 solve the problem.
Strange..I went near the window and the program GPSInfo (http://www.usglobalsat.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=25) went crazy showing me numbers and stuff. This was with COM4: 4800. All of the weird numbers stop when I turn my GPS unit off..but it still says no fix on that program.
Google Maps is still unable to track my location when I put it to find my settings or when I put it to COM4 4800..
VisualGPSec was unable to find a fix too.
So still no luck yet..
I got my Garmin gps10 working on my 8525 running WM6 today and thought I would share what I found.
Step 1: Pair the 2 devices (noticed with my Garmin I have to go in and refresh the services every time I turn the GPS unit on and off)
Step 2: Set your GPS outbound com port (I used 4 thanks to the help of this post)
Step 3: WM6 options Start>Settings>Connections>External GPS
Program Tab setting "com 5" or any other free one. VisualGPSce showed my other com ports used (1: Serial IR, 3: IrComm, 6: Serial, 7: Serial_BTUR)
Program Tab settings "com 4 4800" Or whatever you set your BT com port to and baud rate your device uses
Access Tab "check Manage GPS automatically"
Step 4: Set Google maps tracking to use WM6 settings
Step 5: Checked the "Track Location"
One other thing I noticed while using VisualGPSce I could not choose com 4 I had to use SER04: and instantly got connection to my Garmin.
Hi
I just bought an GPS-Mouse, in order to make TOMTOM usefull.
It worked a couple of days ago, but TOMTOM can't find the GPS-device now.
Does somebody have some usefull tips for me?
(GPS mouse is a Adapt AD-500 GPS Bluetooth receiver)
Cheers
I only use holux, but try restarting phone that usually helps
xboxhaxorz said:
I only use holux, but try restarting phone that usually helps
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Yup same here, Holux M-1200 with iGo MyWay software. But are you sure you set up a secure connection with the bluetooth and set it as a com port 6 or 7 with the correct baud rate? Did you follow everything step by step in your manual for the tomtom?
Well, I tried to follow the manual, but it didn't really help me. There was very little information in the manual, and the information in it was not very clear. The fact is, that it worked a couple of days ago, and now I cannot connect anymore...
I have a motorola BT GPS, supposedly motorola is rock-solid, but I've had troubles with it at times. Rebooting the phone would work occasionally, turning off the GPS would work occasionally, turning off both would work occasionally, if you get the picture, no ONE thing did it each time.
Recently, I found Franson GPSGate (the full version) This keeps a good connection with the bluetooth GPS better than it ever has been before, even when walking away from and then back to the gps device. It also generates a comport that multiple GPS programs can use at once. Very handy little program.
Hope it helps someone.
itrek bluetooth for me....
Do you know about the settings, External GPS icon on the Wing? Go in there and make sure you've got com port set i have mine at program port 6 which is where most gps like to sit for some reason but if it's not working for you play with that setting unfortunately it's trial and error but play with it. I don't know what you'd need "hardware port" for but since you're using a mouse and not a bluetooth unit can't hurt to play with that too, and in the last screen be sure you've got "manage automatically" checked, or maybe you need to uncheck it. All stuff to play with. Did you put any software on lately that could have hosed something? Did you try reloading tom tom? See if you can find one of those freeware utilities that talk to the gps unit and see if it can find it.
This device doesnt have a internal gps correct ? I always thought it didnt but I see some people talking as if it does. Then again, you all wouldnt be buying externals if that was the case.