I would like some advice specific to these to bluetooth devices. I'm going out to get one this week and would like to purchase the best of the two. Basically I'm looking for good audio quality on both ends. Stable compatibility with the tilt. Good looks, of course. The Jawbone seems to be pretty popular, how does the Blue Ant compare? Pros and cons please.
Like most of these questions, you're going to get both opinions. Bought them both - ended up keeping the Blue Ant. Better price (got mine for $60 delivered). Upgradeable firmware. Great call quality/voice command quality. Liked the noise suppression better. Smaller (more comfortable for me and I always thought I had bigger ears). Again, you'll probably find others that will disagree with me.
Thank You... I'll do a little more research
OK. So I got the Jawbone ($129.99) last night and I am very happy, so far. I thought it would look too Star Trekish, but actually, its not too bad. Certainly, considering you have some atrificial device hanging from your ear anyway. How I arrived to this state of happiness: Last week I bought the Jabra BT8040 ($79.99) and after about 6 hours I took it back because it did not sit firmly in my ear (didn't try the extra ear buds), the sound quality was poor, and people complained about noise in my background (noise that I hardly considered). The Jawbone fit perfectly, right out the package and sound quality was perfect on both ends.
I would still like feedback on the Blueant Z9, please.
I have lots of Jawbone experience and I like it the best so far. I've just checked out the BlueAnt site and have now ordered one to test side by side. I do like the idea of downloadable firmware, we'll see.
Did you guys order from the BlueAnt site or from another retailer?
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Did you guys order from the BlueAnt site or from another retailer?
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Do a pricegrabber search, I used Tiger cause I know them but there were lower prices, $60-70 range
Best Buy. i'm impatient.
Jawbone sound is spectacular, function is pretty good, but for me the fit was terrible. Spent so much time fiddling with the wire ear loops they both broke -- my fault, not a quality issue.
Let me know how the BlueAnt works out. So far, I pretty much *hate* the fit of every headset ever made.
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I have Jawbone. They are fantastic. A little bulky on the ear but the technology is wonderful. I have no complain from people telling they hear static or winds noises.
my only complain is, the earbud keeping falling off here and there (interchangable depending on your ear). The earloop sometimes doesn't fit properly due to my status.
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I have lots of Jawbone experience and I like it the best so far. I've just checked out the BlueAnt site and have now ordered one to test side by side. I do like the idea of downloadable firmware, we'll see.
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Looking forward to your test results.....
So far I'm still happy with Jawbone. However (grins), I wish it would alert me when I get text and other messages. If my phone is at my desk and I'm at my workbench I miss incoming text messages. Can this be set up?
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So far I'm still happy with Jawbone. However (grins), I wish it would alert me when I get text and other messages. If my phone is at my desk and I'm at my workbench I miss incoming text messages. Can this be set up?
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http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=bluemusic
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http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
Does this answer your question?
I've been reading reviews on the Z9 and the Jawbone, and every review contradicts the other. I couldn't make up my mind from reading reviews so I bought both and tried them out myself. Here is a comparison as I saw it.
1. Loudness - The Z9 has separate volume buttons for up and down and is plenty loud to hear in a noisy place. It’s loud enough that when I was in a quiet place or in my car with out the radio on I had to turn the volume down a bit.
The Jawbone doesn’t have an up and down volume button. It has a button that every time you press it, it raises the volume one level. Once you reach level 5 it goes back down to the lowest level and you have to start raising it again. It relies on it’s audio enhancement technology that will automatically adjust the volume depending on the surrounding noise. Overall, I felt that the Jawbone just wasn't loud enough for me.
2. Fit - They both fit really well but the Z9 hurts my ear after I take it off if I've had in for more than 30 minutes. The Z9 goes on fast when you get a call if it isn’t in your ear.
The Jawbone fits nice also, but it takes a little longer to put it on if it’s not in when you get a call. The good thing is that I can leave it on longer than the Z9 because it doesn’t hurt my ear at all. It just takes time to find the right combination for your ear, between the 4 ear pads and the 4 ear loops. But once you do it fits great. There is a shake test on YouTube showing that if you shake your head rapidly the Jawbone falls off while the Z9 stays on. I tried it and it's true. But who the hell goes around shaking their head like that.
3. Noise cancellation - This one was too close to call, I tested with the radio turned up in my truck and called my voicemail at work. They both did a great job. You could barely hear the music playing in the background and the music would cut in and out, while I was talking. It sounded like you had music in the background at a very low volume. As for the voice, it came across loud and it never cut out.
4. Size – Now this is a huge difference, the Z9 is about third the size of the Jawbone. This doesn’t mean that the Jawbone is overbearing or anything it just means that the Z9 is really small.
After testing them both for a couple of days, I am keeping the Z9. The deciding factor was that the Jawbone just wasn’t loud enough for me. Both are great noise cancelling headsets. If the Jawbone were louder I would be keeping that one because of the comfort level.
If you guys and gals have any questions let me know and I will try to answer them.
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So far I'm still happy with Jawbone. However (grins), I wish it would alert me when I get text and other messages. If my phone is at my desk and I'm at my workbench I miss incoming text messages. Can this be set up?
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Try this free app, BTaudio toggle, it directs all sounds out thru the BT headset. It works great on the Kaiser. I map a a key to make it easy to direct all sounds when needed. Search for it to get the thread about it.
I tried Bluemusic and found that it did NOT work well with my Kaiser in that it seems to kill the voice dialer function. When pressing the headset button voice dialer does not work, bluemusic seems to use it to toggle the sound between the headset and phone, showstopper for me.
I haven't had much luck with a headset that fits my ear properly, and is loud enough. I've had a bunch ... have/had a Jawbone. I just can't get it to stay in my ear regardless of which hook or bud I use.
On a whim i bought a Moto H375 at Costco with wall and car charger (std mini USB) for $40.
I can charge it from any standard mini USB cable
It fits and stays in my ear
It is so loud I often have to turn the phone volume down
Battery life is good
It has some kind of auto pairing, so all you have to do is turn it on and tell your device to search. I didn't have to fumble with some odd button press to put the headset into a pairing mode. Both my Tilt and BB 8310 found it immediately ... laptop too.
When my phone rings I actually hear my ringtone in my ear ... not some generic bleep bleep sound.
It worked fine with MS Voice Command, without any hacks, with the current STOCK AT&T ROM, does name announcement just fine.
My only complaint is that the ear hook isn't super comfortable if you wear it for longer than an hour ... but then I don't walk around like a drone all day wearing one anyway.
for $40 it certainly is worth checking out.
Thanks lopezpm for your review.... if RemE comes to the same conclusion..(soon)... I'll go for the Z9
Jawbone
I got the Jawbone for the last 4 months with it's amazing audio. The only thing that "burn" it is the charging cable, They use their own type of connector which require me to take the only cable they supplied with me when I travel for something longer then 3 days.
I tried contacting throught the web site in order to get another cable but after 2 months of waiting I understood they won't reply.
I got my'n at the MobilityToday.com shop for 80$ (the red version)
Got my Z9 and so far I have to say that I'm impressed. I downloaded and updated it's firmware from their web site. It was a bit of a project but the instructions were good. The Z9 is truely tiny compared to the Jawbone and the Z9 has many more call control features, controlled with button combination presses.
Fit for me is good, the clear plastic hooks are slightly less comfortable than the Jawbone but with careful adjusting while looking in a mirror can help you get a fit that works well. The Z9 weighs next to nothing and can be adjusted to be almost invisible to your senses. They give you two spare ear hooks.
Sound incoming is loud and clear and I do appreciate the dedicated up and down controls. I wear my headsets on my left ear so that puts the buttons on the bottom in my case which is not as good from an operational standpoint, especially when using button combinations.
Charging is done with a dedicated charger with micro usb type connector (looks identical to Jabra's). The Z9's charger is rated at 5v, the Jabra is 6v. The Z9 also comes with a micro USB to standard USB charge/data cable. The cable's have labels stating to ONLY use them with the Z9.
Noise Cancellation, so far so good. One difference from the Jawbone is that the Z9's noise cancelling is default at "standard" at call connect where the Jawbone's NC is "On" at startup and can be turned Off while in a call by pressing it's rear button (where you get a multi-tone indication that it's Off) The Z9's NC can be turned from "standard" to "Max" with a tap on the call button and it actually says "noise cancelling max" in your ear with a male Austrailian accented voice tag. A 3 sec press on the call button is needed to "end call". I called a friend with a Jawbone and did quality tests and was told that the quality was very good. I did walk around outside and the Z9 did fairly well in wind compared to Jawbone, maybe slightly better. I have not had a chance to torture test in the car at high speeds yet but so far I'm pretty happy.
Annoying Bits, should you walk out of range of your phone (eg. left phone on desk and walked out of room), the Jawbone gives a single "lost connection" tone while the Z9 gives it's lost signal tone, every 2 seconds, over and over for about a minute or two, then it powers down. When you are back in range it won't auto-pair like the Jawbone, you need to tap the call button to wake it, then it re-pairs quickly. Also I'm finding that the single tap of the button during a call (disconnects call with Jawbone, changes Noise Reduction Level with Z9) with the Z9 I often change NC level by accident because I'm so used to tapping the button to hang-up, they really should reverse the two features and tap-hold for 3 sec to change noise cnx level since it's not used as much as hanging up! At least we could rally for a firmware change
All in all for the price ($70 USD in my case) the Z9 is a contender!
Edit, after a few days use I will say that the Jawbone is the most comfortable. The Z9's clear plastic ear clip does hurt after a while, more than the Jawbone.
Edit, after driving with it a few hours today, well, it was better than my Jawbones! (and I love my Jawbones) It was way louder, in fact I had to turn it down! I called a fellow nit-picking, Jawbone using friend and did many in-car tourture tests, speed, wind, etc. The Jawbone might have a slight edge in noise cancelling but overall I was loud and clear to them and they were loud and clear to me.
So in my book both are great headsets, I'll keep and use both.
I have owned headsets by Jabra, Plantronics, Sony and Cardo (god-awful, threw it at my window and broke it after only two days) and I must say that my Jawbone blows everything else I've previously owned out of the water, the fit is great for me, sound quality is excellent, no one complains when talking to me except when I'm in heavy wind. You can't really go wrong with the Jawbone!
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anyone heard about bluespoon headset? its the smallest bluetooth in the market now i think... really small believe me... but im not sure it will works with xda II or not.. if someone tried it.. pls inform me.. thanks.
I have the Bluespoon chameleon (analog version) and YES it works great.
Bluespoon and XDA II
I am using the NextLink Chameleon Bluespoon headset with the XDA II with no problems. Lightest and a long talk time of 4 to 5 hrs.
because i plan the buy Chameleon as well.. can u pls tell me how u feel about it? thanks. hope to hear from u soon.
do the bluespoon HS have the same disconnection issues that the jabra suffers from every time it goes out of range of the XDA-II?
Generally, I like it, but there are a few points to be aware of.
It will only fit in your right ear. Not the left. I am not kidding.
It takes a little practice to fit it in, but ones you get the hang of it, it feels natural.
There is a necklace kind of thing included that you can (optional) attach to the unit if you are afraid of dropping it out of your ear.
I tried briefly to use it with Skype on my laptop, and I got sound, but the other person did not hear me. But I spend less time on that than writing this comment
The blinking on the unit was a bit confusing to me. Is it on? discoverable? Low on power? Etc.
I've stepped away about 10 meters from the XDA II (Actually called SPV M1000 in Denmark) without significant loss of sound. When walking downstairs I lost sound, but not the connection.
Over all the "could be" down sides mentioned are not of any matter to me, but they might be for you.
I'm satisfied.
Hope this is the kind of info you are looking for. If there is anything specific you would like to know, just write back.
/Torben
Its a really great heatset. Putting it on needs getting used to. Its like putting on earphones the whole day. But its really comfortable. Though you would get the occasional stares at "what's that bug on your ear" look :lol: Also, sad to say that the earpiece does not fit all ears. i have read that some people with small ear holes are unable to fit the blusespoon in properly. Talk time and standby times are great. Mine can last me almost 5 days without charging it at all with above average usage. Though is still suffers from the other party not being able to hear you well in a noisy envoironment. All in all, its a worth investment!
I have a Bluespoon Digital. My friend and I ordered one each. He has an XDAII, I have an i-mate. We ordered both from the States (not available here in Australia). Here is a mini-review.
Purchase price: USD$289 + shipping. It took 12 days (8 working days) for the unit to arrive from USA.
Box contents: Bluespoon Digital, Charging cradle, Charger, Adapters for US, UK, and Japanese power, foam earpieces, CD, manual. USB charging cradle was missing in one of the boxes. One of the boxes had an extra foam earpiece. Does this say something about Nextlink's quality control?
Build quality: Average. The Bluespoon digital consists of two halves which are glued together. The bottom half is made of a hard black plastic which feels quite sturdy. The top half is clear plastic which has been painted with membrane switches over the buttons. On my copy, the paint was applied unevenly. One of the membrane switches was not completely painted. Also, when the blue light illuminates, the silhouette of a wire is visible under the cover. My friend's unit does not suffer this flaw.
Usage: Average. The volume up/down buttons do not work (yes, I know you can only use these buttons in the middle of a call). You are supposed to hear a beep when max/min volume is reached. Pressing the volume button does not change the volume, nor do you hear a beep. You are stuck at the same rather soft volume all the time. As a result of this, incoming calls are not clear when compared to a Jabra BT200.
Outgoing calls are OUTSTANDING. My friend placed a call to my landline and I compared the sound quality with the bluespoon, with a fan blowing on the bluespoon, with the XDAII, and with the XDAII speaker phone. Sound quality was much better than the standard XDAII. The Bluespoon digital (which has a noise cancelling feature) did an acceptable job of reducing wind noise. In comparison, the Jabra BT200 drowns out in white noise.
The Bluespoon Digital supports voice dialling but for some reason it does not work with the XDAII (I have tried it with Fonix and Neuvoice - which I have registered). You have to make calls the "normal" way.
The Bluespoon feels comfortable in my ear when the correct ear spring is selected. I have worn it all day with no problems. Inserting it is tricky at first but you get used to it. The buttons are poorly placed - when you press them you mash the bluespoon into your ear and it's not a comfortable feeling.
Some of the interface choices are rather bizarre (e.g. to do a hard reset you have to use your cradle) but you get used to it.
I have not yet run the battery flat because I charge my unit every night.
Customer support: Good. We contacted them about the missing USB cable and they said they would send one over immediately. I have not asked them yet about why the volume control does not work. I might even ask for a new unit.
Conclusion: Would I buy it again? Definitely not. This is the most expensive BT headset around and I expected better than the awful build quality and the below-average sound quality.
I have been using bluespoon for 2 months with MDA II ROM 1.06.00 WWE with no problem
and connection from bluespoon to my notebook Compaq presario 2500 used Bluetooth Class1 is OK
News from O2 over the ROM upgrade: Handsfree bluetooth profile is scheduled for the next wm2003 service pack - tentatively may/june before it appears in the Xda II rom (tekguru)
Bluespoon volume control
This is for Amfibius:
I thought my volume control was defect, but on my unit I have to press the volume button a bit longer than any other button on electrical things.
It's a little hard to explain, but it's less than a second, but longer than just press and release.
This may not be the problem in your case, but it's worth a try, and you may not have to wait for a new unit
Please let me know if it helped...
/Torben
Although the Bluespoon is very small and works perfectly with older phones I had, with the xdaII it sometimes did not work as it was supposed to. Sometimes I was unable to answer the call from the headset, and sometimes when making a call the sound did not transfer to the headset as it was supposed to do and stayed with the phone, embarassing me while people were saying "hello" over and over again and I was not speaking since I hadn't realized that I had established connection My bluespoon is the original one they had released sometime ago.
Bluetooth headset
I have trouble hearing well with my Ericsson HBH 60 bluetooth headset. Does anyone know of a bluetooth headset that works with the O2 and has good hearing volume.
Michael Jacobson
Hi there,
I want to have a bluetooth headset ready to go when the Kaiser is available from AT&T. I will primarily use it to make calls, but if there is a good combo stereo/mono headset for listening to music too that would be great.
My current bluetooth headset is the Jabra model with Caller ID. The Caller ID is nice, too bad the headset is bigger than a Vogon destructor fleet.
Any thoughts? On style, functionality, and compatibility with the Kaiser?
Thanks in advance!!
I just ordered the Pulsar 590A but I don't have a kaiser yet. I will deffinately be using these with the kaiser though and expect them to work 100%.
This set seems to be one of the top bluetooth stereo headsets. I only wish it was behind the ears instead of over the head.
For non stereo I would try the jawbone.
I vote for the aliph jawbone. I love mine http://www.jawbone.com/
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I vote for the aliph jawbone. I love mine http://www.jawbone.com/
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are you currently using your Tytn II with the Jawbone? if so, please share your thoughts. i'm using a BlueAnt Z9 and it's works well with the Tytn II, but the volume is slightly lower than when i use it with my Trinity.
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are you currently using your Tytn II with the Jawbone? if so, please share your thoughts. i'm using a BlueAnt Z9 and it's works well with the Tytn II, but the volume is slightly lower than when i use it with my Trinity.
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It works great. I love the aliph. It has wonderful noise cancellation and it raises and lowers the volume depending on the environment Im in. If I am talking on the headset and an unexpected noise comes about I do not miss a word of the conversation. The headset adjusts the ear piece volume right away so that I hear perfectly and likewise the other party doesnt hear all the noise around me due to the noise cancellation sensor. I love to drive with the windows down on the highway but if some one calls I have to quickly roll the windows up,,,,,,,, not so with the aliph jawbone. I hear them well and they never ask me, what? what? even when I'm doing 60 with the windows down. I sound like an infomercial,,,,,,
And with this prog you can stream your music to the headset http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1400141&postcount=6
evolution_theory said:
I just ordered the Pulsar 590A but I don't have a kaiser yet. I will deffinately be using these with the kaiser though and expect them to work 100%.
This set seems to be one of the top bluetooth stereo headsets. I only wish it was behind the ears instead of over the head.
For non stereo I would try the jawbone.
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Yes Platronics Pulsar 590A
I'm a huge Jawbone fan, however, the volume is definately lower with The TyTN II that is was with Hermes. I still use Jawbones, but in the car I'm finding it harder to hear my callers. It's only in Hi Noise areas that this is now a problem. Callers have not complained to me about my voice quality. I really hope that this gets fixed with a software patch from HTC or here!
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I'm a huge Jawbone fan, however, the volume is definitely lower with The TyTN II that is was with Hermes. I still use Jawbones, but in the car I'm finding it harder to hear my callers. It's only in Hi Noise areas that this is now a problem. Callers have not complained to me about my voice quality. I really hope that this gets fixed with a software patch from HTC or here!
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Same here. Callers say I sound exactly the same from 1 second to another when I quickly end the call and switch to the treo 750 then call them back. They sound the same except a whole lot quieter. So then I turn the volume up about 3 notches to max and that brings them to a comfortable volume so that I hear them easily but then since the headset is on max and the phone is on max I get white noise and distortion.
With my treo 750 if I dared to put the call on max is would be uncomfortably loud but the voice quality would still be better than the Kaiser. That shows that the 750 could even go louder before creating white noise or distortion. So I would say that the quality and power of the audio of the Kaisers (software/hardware?) for transmitting mono audio is 1/3 weaker than the treo. I suspect users who report different haven't thoroughly tested this.
BlueAnt Z9
I had a Jawbone but it really didn't fit my ear very well. And if it doesn't fit well, it doesn't work well because it needs to rest on your jaw-bone. My favorite part was that its LED was the least annoying of all BT headsets.
That being said... I love the BlueAnt Z9. It works great, the volume is about the same as the Jawbone (sadly). But it has great noise canceling. It has a great universal fit earpiece. It's smaller than the jawbone. And you can hold two buttons and turn off the LED flashing all together. It's a great design and I prefer carrying it, wearing it, and using it WAY MORE than the Jawbone.
The Ultimate Upgrade for a Jawbone
I have a Jawbone headset and it is the best headset I have ever used. The one problem I had was the fit. It didn't fit in my ear comfortably, the ear loop hurt after a while, and the ear piece never fit in my ear well.
I found the ultimate upgrade to the Jawbone http://www.averysound.com/as.jawbone.html
It is a custom made ear piece made for the Jawbone. They send you an epoxy putty that you jam into your ear. It hardens in about 10 minutes and you mail it back to the company. In about a week and a half, they send you a custom ear piece in the shape of your ear.
Once you have it on, it fits firmly in your ear, it's comfortable and the volume is great. I don't need the ear loop at all, it fits that well in my ear. It is so comfortable that I forget I have it in my ear. The volume is so good and clear you have to turn it way down, because the sound is going straight into your ear canal.
The downside is that it costs $67. I thought long and hard about it. But I found another guy who had gotten one. He convinced me it was worth it.
I have the Plantronics 590A Stereo bluetooth headset, the sound is amazing and i think that it is one of the best stereo headsets out there. If you prefer something that goes behind the ear, then check out the Motorola HT820, i dont think it's as good as the 590A, but it is much cheaper and depending on your preferences, you might want a behind the ear more.
Esteel said:
I have a Jawbone headset and it is the best headset I have ever used. The one problem I had was the fit. It didn't fit in my ear comfortably, the ear loop hurt after a while, and the ear piece never fit in my ear well.
I found the ultimate upgrade to the Jawbone http://www.averysound.com/as.jawbone.html
It is a custom made ear piece made for the Jawbone. They send you an epoxy putty that you jam into your ear. It hardens in about 10 minutes and you mail it back to the company. In about a week and a half, they send you a custom ear piece in the shape of your ear.
Once you have it on, it fits firmly in your ear, it's comfortable and the volume is great. I don't need the ear loop at all, it fits that well in my ear. It is so comfortable that I forget I have it in my ear. The volume is so good and clear you have to turn it way down, because the sound is going straight into your ear canal.
The downside is that it costs $67. I thought long and hard about it. But I found another guy who had gotten one. He convinced me it was worth it.
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wow that's crazy. I may have to look into getting something like that...looks pretty awesome!
I use a Jawbone headset also, and I too have found it to be on the quiet side when compared to using it on other phones. I just turn the volume up a couple notches, and no problems.
As for those of you who the Jawbone didn't fit properly... Mine came with four different over the ear pieces (Reg & Large for left and right ear) and five different pieces that go in your ear. It took me a little while to find the one that worked best for me... but since then no complaints.
As for the custom shaped ear piece, $67 is more than I spent for my Jawbone to begin with.
I've have a set of Moto HT820 and they out "perform" any set I've had to date. The only draw back is the bulkiness, so they are only used on long trips and around the house.
I've also tried the Plantronics Pulsar 260. DON'T buy these. The volume is not near loud enough, even in a quiet enviroment.
I am trying a set of Moto S705 They are very loud and the sound quality is better than expected for ear buds. Still not the base reproduction of the HT820's, but still good. Also it has a built in FM radio, which for me I really like. I miss having that with one of my old Nokia's. The only negative so far is sometimes callers complain I sound muffled. Don't know if I have a bad set or what, but will report back if I find out.
Does the caller id function work with tytn II?
Curious if it works with the Kaiser and if you would recommend it.
Thanks!
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177
Motorola S9
New to this site. First time poster. I just got these headphones for my Tilt. I tried them with my 8125 using mfrazz WM6 rom and they worked well. Volume got fairly loud and sound quality was pretty good.
I haven't gotten my microSD card yet for the Tilt, but listened to some of the music that came with phone. Volume was lower, but I don't know if that was the audio level of that particular file. I haven't tried it with any personal mp3 files. I placed a phone call with this headset and sound quality was average. The caller could only be heard through the left earphone, not stereo.
The headset was fairly comfortable to wear, but I haven't tried it for extended periods. I'm going to try using it while running this weekend to see how well it stays in place.
that combo works great for me, used them at the gym all the time
There are many many user comments about these headphones over at Howard Forums bluetooth message forum. I went thrui 2 paris of these. Both failed for the same reason, The first lasted 1 week. the second lasted 1 month. The issue is they aren't really sweatproof as they claim. if you sweat alopt (and running in Phoenix will make you sweat), they konk out (i.e. technical term for stop working altogehter) after a while. The seals aren't really tight enough to keep water out. I tried a second one cuaz there were rumors of a bad inital batch. so I got a one from a later batch a couple months after and it did the same.
Two other issues with them: they tended to skip alot and also people complained it wasn';t very good for calls. So, if you have had good xperience with them that's great. But if you are still considering them, be forewarned. I loved the concept of them. But they just didn't meet their own marketing's expectations IMO.
Im now looking at the Plantronics 855, which is just becoming avail. No it's not sweatproof (but at least they don't claim to be). I;ve given up on getting a sweatproof BT headset for now. But otherwise, it looks like it might be a great solution for both calls and "casual" music.
Here's my two cents...
I bought the S9 headphones a few months ago after using the Motorola HT820's for close to a year (the HT820's are the ones that make you look like Mickey Mouse when you wear them).
The pros:
- The sleeker design of the S9 dont make you look like Mickey Mouse or Princess Lea. In fact, many people don't even realize I'm wearing headphones at all...
- They generally sound good
- The controls on both ears allow you to start/stop phone calls, raise and lower the volume, start/stop music and change music tracks
The cons (as compared with the HT820):
- Battery life is not wonderful -- the HT820's provide 14 hours or music, the S9 seem to provide more like 8
- Phone call audio plays only in one ear (the left one, to be exact). I had gotten used to phone calls in stereo...
- The middle button on each ears' control panel is a bit hard to use -- and those are the buttons which are used to start/stop phone calls and play/pause music
Overall, the sound quality is good. I dont usually have many dropouts during music and almost never during phone calls. People have never complained that they cant hear me speaking when using the S9 for calls.
Hope this helps....
Music sounds pretty decent. Not on caliber with a nice set of wired phones, but compared to the Shure Ec3, I'd give them a 7. On the plus side, if you can get a good fit for your ear, the bass response is a bit better than some of the "reference" quality earbuds. I think this is a matter of taste though.
Comfort is OK, but my ears do get a bit sore after an hour or so, but never to the point where I feel the need to take them off.
Music controls work fine, but I have not had great luck with activating incoming calls from the headset. Sometimes it works, others not. The buttons don't have a great tactile feel, so I may not be hitting the accept call button squarely. I also notice the music does not always pick right back up after using the head set activation button, so for these reasons, I usually hit the call accept button on the phone. This works fine.
I do get occasional skipping, but this seems to be related to Activesync.
I get occasional droped connections. Just turn the headset off and back on to reconnect. Happens maybe 1 out of 7 times I use them, and usually in the first few minutes - odd.
Phone call quality leaves a lot to be desired. For some reason, they only play through one ear when on a call and is seems that no matter what I do, the incoming person is too loud and boomy, even when I turn it way down. Usually this is passable for a short conversation, but if the person on the other end has an unfamiliar accent, I wind up having to switch over to the handset. People in general say they can hear me fine, but I don not use them in an environment with a lot of ambient noise.
That being said, I still use them very often at work as I don't get a lot of personal calls during the day. Battery life is usually sufficient for most of the day on a full charge. If you are at your desk the entire day, you may find they are drained before the end of the day (6-7 hours).
For home, I was thinking about picking up a pair of the Bluetrek phones. From the reviews I have read, if they fit you well, the sound quality is good, the battery life is a bit longer (though not much), they play phone calls in both ears and come with a nice carry case.
One final consideration, for some reason they do not get very loud with the Kaiser connection. It is still adequate, but if you like your music really loud, they may be lacking. I wouldn't rile them out on this though as they are plenty loud when connecting to my laptop, so there might be some software limitation on the volume which can be tweaked in the registry. I have seen some others mentioning this too and have not come across a fix yet, but I'd be willing to bet there will be one as soon as the BT headphones start getting more use.
Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
I have a Jabra BT620s, which is also A2DP. It is total crap. I would look at a different brand. Motorola headsets are supposed to work well.
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joshuah82 said:
Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
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I have the 8010 and it with all due respect to the previous poster, it works great. I have used it with the original shipped ROM and several cooked ROMS (Currently on Sleuth's 6.1 ver 3) and it worked well with all of them. I will say it seems to work the best (longer distance from the PPC) with the radio included in Sleuth's 6.1
Can either of you provide more specific information about the issues you had with it? I've never had a bluetooth headset before so I might not even notice.
My BT620s sounded like a bad record. The pitch kept shifting very subtly, but it is INSANELY annoying and makes it completely un-listenable. Also, it would drop audio for about 5 seconds of every minute, which is very annoying. It had trouble with pairing, when you turned it off, it would sometimes refuse to re-connect to the phone. The call quality with it was OK though. I sold mine and bought a pair of Motorolas.
i have the bt8010 (only for a week) and the head set is pretty good
i have had the headset cut out on me i think there is interference from the cell or wifi. but it doesn't happen all the time. the battery life is good i have played at least 9 hours of music (stereo) straight before it need a charge. the sound quality is ok, there is some distortion on the extreme high and low notes.
but it is wireless
the headset need to be angled in a upward angle in order to be conformable (at least for me) i was able to were it for 3 hours with out a problem
the cord between the ears some times get pulled by twisting my neck, it's about 1 inch too long
i have used it in a noisy production floor and the person on the other side head me fine, a little downed out but they didn't hear the hum of the loud machine in the background and because i had the stereo on i head him better then on my phone, and yes you do hear the person on both right and left sides.
i was going to get a Motorola (mono) one but i got this one because the talk time and standby life is longer (according to specs) and this one has stereo option.
this is the only headset that you could switch from work to play
i am happy with it, and other around me like it.
btw i got mine refurbished.
I have the BT8010. I've had it for about 7 to 8 months now, maybe longer.
I really do not like the headset at all. It has great sound so don't get me wrong. If sound is all you are interested in then go for it. But if you are looking for fit or the ear loops to stay on then they aren't the ones.
For me, the fit for me is horrible and the headset hurts because I have small ears.
SECOND and this is the BIGGEST LET DOWN, the ear loops keep falling out.
So if you get it go ahead and call and order some extras right away. You can contact them via phone I think and they will send you a few. Just keep one in your wallet and one in the car and some @ home, and some in your briefcase.
The ear loops fall out way too easy for my tastes. I'm currently looking for another set of A2DB enabled headsets.
I use it for some 4 month. Mostly monoaural. It's ok, but...
Pros: VERY good sound quality (noise reduction, environment supression), good battery lifetime (up to 3 days), clear display, handy controls.
Cons: the ear hanger (? sorry for my english) slips out from the unit causing unit to fall, fast dial numbers are too short (cannot add cell codes e.g. enabling my phone number identification before dial number), does not fit perfectly into the ear - the sound is good when I puch it with my finger toward my ear, but listening to the music is a bit painful (not full spectrum due to distance between speaker and ear-hole that cannot be, at least in my case, adjusted).
Overall: good design/performance. Better quality then BT800 (my previous earphone). Cannot be securely and properly adjusted toward ear.
has anyone got more insight on this headset... i am looking in purhcasing it.
I use the 8010. The only complaint I had was the ear hook kept falling out, like the poster above. What I did was to superglue the hook in. Now, it doesn't fall, and it fit tighter to the ear, making it better to hear conversations and music. I lost one of the hooks before, and when I called jabra to order another set of hooks, they sent me out a Free pair, no ? asked, so support is great. Now, you can find the headset at a very good price. I paid $100 for mines, you can find them for $40-60.
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I also have problems with the ear loop falling out. But it's not that often.
What I find annoying is that it doesn't automatically connect to my HTC prophet as stereo headphones when I switch the Jabra to music mode. I have to manually go into bluetooth settings and click on Jabra BT8010 to set as stereo headphones. Does anyone have a fix for this? If I don't do the above steps, AVRCP is able to work, but music will still come out of the phone. It would be nice if I can just listen to music with a push of the mode button without having to fumble for my phone.
i have em .. and to be honest i cant really complain
the only problem ive actually had is like everyone else has mentioned...the ear loop comming off..but thats so small in comparison to what they have to offer.
imo :
the sync from my car to my home bt system is awesome!
the clarity is superb
volume, settings, caller id and the phonebook work flawlessly..and to top it off i got em off of ebay for 25 bucks brand new with a reciept..
cant beat it!
i ahve jabra bt620s and sound is too low, how can i increase the sound on bt headset
the best bluetooth I know so far is Itech. They don't sell here but you can find it on ebay. A2DP, bluetooth stereo, cliping on you cloth, looks like a ipod shuttle on you collar.
Dear all,
I've made a review of the Jawbone Bluetooth Headset here: http://blog.evolvedsoftwarestudios....se-introducing-the-jawbone-bluetooth-headset/
The basis of the review was a bluetooth headset purchase with noise cancellation for use with my HTC Kaiser.
I hope that you find the review useful. Feel free to comment here or on my blog, critisism (please do not be rude) or thoughts are welcome.
Many thanks!
Good review, I like all the points you covered. I agree that the Jawbone is probably the best I've heard (pun intended) for noise cancellation. I've tested it under several conditions (extremely loud music; car at highway speeds with windows down; NYC streets) and it cancels noise well.
My only two problems are
a) I can never seem to get the device loud enough. The automatic volume works well enough, but it doesn't seem to go up high enough to cover very loud scenarios, like the NYC streets scenario.
b) I can't get the thing to fit my ear. I've tried every combination of ear buds and ear hooks, but it never fits my ear well. I always have to readjust it every few minutes so it doesn't fall off. I might try that link in your review for the custom ear bud company.
Nice review, the only additional issues I see are;
1 - The Jawbone on Kaiser has a lower inbound audio level that many other phones (an HTC problem really, but other headsets do work OK with kaiser). I use it but it's barely acceptable to me. It would be better with a custom ear bud to direct the sound better.
2 - The Jawbone's noise cancelling is awesome in a speeding car, in a room with lots of background noise, BUT, it fails miserably when exposed to direct wind of almost any velocity. In wind many callers have said that they can barely hear me until I turn and hide the Jawbone from the wind.
3 - The US price is List $129 USD but $80 Street, not bad at all.
4 - The custom charge dongle is a negative, however after you become completely attached to this headset, you'll eventually loose one, or two, and soon have spares! I now have two
Hello,
dis39tif: My Jawbone is pretty loud. The startup beep is uncomfortably loud and leaves my ears ringing if I turn the Jawbone on whilst wearing it.
Initially I had fitting problems as well (falling off), so I chose one of the hooked/lipped earpieces and hook the Jawbone earhook over my ear like putting on a pair of sunglasses. Then I hold the Jawbone with one hand and twist the front part upwards. This puts the sensor on my cheekbone and not my jawbone, but still it works well and the fit is more snug.
RemE: I've read that the Jawbone on Kaiser has been reported ot be quieter. I can't say I've really noticed when trying with the Hermes. Seems the same to me. A custom earbud should help (based on info from other users). I've also read that wind noise isn't blocked while the user is talking, but it isn't blocked on any earpiece and Jawbone still does better than the other sets on the market at keeping unwanted noise out. Re: US pricing, I live in "rip off Britain". Prices for everything is higher here. I wonder if I can get a VISA to live in Delaware Re: charging cable, I'd like to have seen a micro usb port.
liddlefeesh -
I agree, the startup beep is quite loud. I wish the volume during calls was louder. I've tried pressing the button which turns off the automatic volume and lets you manually change the volume, as well as messing with the volume on the kaiser. Don't get me wrong, it's still quite usable. I just wish it went a bit louder.
Thanks for the fitment idea. I'll try it out.
Better ear bud fitment and sound for Jawbone
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b) I can't get the thing to fit my ear. I've tried every combination of ear buds and ear hooks, but it never fits my ear well. I always have to readjust it every few minutes so it doesn't fall off. I might try that link in your review for the custom ear bud company.
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Get a pair of Jabra ear gels from RadioShack, attach them to the Jawbone - better fit, better sound. The combo works great for me.
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Get a pair of Jabra ear gels from RadioShack, attach them to the Jawbone - better fit, better sound. The combo works great for me.
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By chance do you still have the Radio Shack part number for these gels?