Morning all,
I remember reading on the wizard forums somewhere that someone changed the volume keys so that they could be used as a scroll up and scroll down function similiar to the scroll wheel on the hermes for use in PIE etc.
Is this possible on the Touch Dual. if so what would the program be and how much would it cost ?
Jeremy
It is possible for free.
jeremymacmull said:
Morning all,
I remember reading on the wizard forums somewhere that someone changed the volume keys so that they could be used as a scroll up and scroll down function similiar to the scroll wheel on the hermes for use in PIE etc.
Is this possible on the Touch Dual. if so what would the program be and how much would it cost ?
Jeremy
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Hi,
AE Button Plus should be able to do this. There's a time-unlimited trial which should do the job.
Another one may be Spb PocketPlus, which offers less possibilities for button mapping, but maybe (actually I can't remember fur sure) offers exactly out-of-the-box the mapping you are searching for (volume2scroll), whereas in AEB+ you have to make the mappings explicit (VolUp->PgUp etc).
Cheers,
jekk.
I've mapped button 2 and 3 and button 2 hold and button 3 hold to scroll up and scroll down.
The hold buttons work OK but they aren't usable as a scroller as it takes too long to activate but If I map the normal buttons to scroll up and down they still only change volume. If I map them to launch contacts they launch this fine some of the time but not always and other times they just change the volume. So no can do. This by the way is using pocket plus' built in button mapping program.
Jeremy
But there now seems to be duplicate threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351144
Also is the same question
I use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=256525
@ Star fish do you use smartskey on your touch dual and it works
cos in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369742
It supposedly does not work.
Can you confirm thanks
Jeremy
@jeremy - I'm using SmartSKey on the Touch Dual and it works fine.
Thanks Random yep that works fine
Jeremy
randomelements said:
@jeremy - I'm using SmartSKey on the Touch Dual and it works fine.
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Does anyone know a registry hack yet for making it possible to remap ALL hardware buttons (or at least the OK button below the jog-wheel, cause this seems to be hard-coded to the Windows-menu) !?
Preferably a reg-hack that (re)enables this options in the regular \Settings\Buttons tab...
Another problem i want to fix (apart from the ROM being immature) is the fact that i have to go all the way into the Bluetooth-settings on the CommManager screen to connect my Jabra 620s in stereo/audio-mode, which is quite anoying and timeconsuming...
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
Anyone able to help me here ?
PS: i'm quite experienced WM user dating back to the Wyvern/PalmsizePC CE 2.12 devices...but i just can't seem to find my way around these huge registries in todays devices anymore... guess i'm getting old...
Anyone please ...?
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
Mark One said:
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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I don't have my Trinity yet, but have you tried some of the 3rd party Button remappers that are available? Magic Button etc.
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I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
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I got my Trinity last friday and am using a 2Gb MiniSD card and so far no problems with it. I feel no real delay when coming out of standby mode and no problem at all with the MiniSD card, maybe you got a early version of the ROM that contained this particular problems.
I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine.
Lets see if someone suggests a good 3rd party tool to remap the buttons and then everybody is happy ;-)
VC with BT headset
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Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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Yes...you're right...it does work when the screen of my trinity is on. But offcourse when listening to music the screen is gonna be off...
The button on the headset does activate voicecommand when device is on (ie screen on) and no music is playing. But i'd rather have it understand my commands like "what track is this" while music plays (without having to take out the phone of my pocket).
As for the button-mapping: i'm familiar with the buttonmappers out there, but another application on my trinity is just not what i need... Is there really no way to get to this functionality through the registry ? I've searched quite a chunk of the registry but gave up; i just can't find it...
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...I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine...
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Precisely: one handed operation... That's what i want, so i want the button next to the jogdial to be the ALT+TAB function (which is available through Spb PocketPlus)...so i want to be able to map this to whatever button i like, not just the 2 options HTC gave me... (i don't count press'n hold as an extra button).
I think it's quite ridiculous to have TWO buttons activating the startmenu, and have them hardcoded to that. What's the point in 2 buttons doing the same thing ?
Being able to change the 'Windows' button woukld also be a fine sollution...
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
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i tried it, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware button !!! >.<
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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i tried AE Button Plus, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware buttons
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
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And pressing Camera button, the Start Menu Button event will be triggered. it seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
vijay555 said:
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
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OK OK !!! Let me find him
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[...] It seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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So it seems AE Button Plus is not the THE perfect tool for that, anyone tried another soft ?
Hi guys,
I'm too looking for a way to remap the startmenu-button for e.g. starting an application. No 3rd party software I tried so far is able to do so...
Any suggestion how to reassign the startmenue button to call a specific application?
Cheers
Punga
AEButton Plus maps all but the standby button...
... on my Wizard. Well, it doesn't touch the soft-reset, the camera gets funky when I try to map it, and I can't seem to move the vibrate function off the hold "Comm Manger" Key. Given I've got 50 different hardware button options, (or 37 added if I leave all the default functioning in place) with this nifty shareware (basically fully functional if you want to use it free forever), who cares about the dumb camera button (not in the count above).
My biggest problem is remebering where I mapped it all. My second is making decisions about how to map them.... :|| (that's a repeat sign in music-talk)
You gotta try it. I'd be curious to find out how it works on your hardware.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Hey all,
One off the pet hates i have about the hermes as compared to the wizard is the loss off the volume adjust on the left hand side.
I like the scroll wheel on the hermes but i hate that it doesn't automatically activate the volume bar, having to get out the stylus and tap the volume icon, or smudge up the screen trying to clumsily tap it with my thumb is annoying.
Is there anyway of making a press and hold of the wheel activate the volume? or anything along those lines?
I'm sure I'm not the only one with this pet hate.
Thanks in advance.
i would love this feature.. i miss it from my wizard
I have been trying to do this as well with key mapping software. However I cant find one that will open up the volume controls when I press a specific button. I am able to map presses to volume up/down but thats not what i want. Hopefully somebody else has a solution.
I know exactly what you guys mean.
@Knockz... have you tries this already with AE Button Plus? The new version better recognizes keys that the older versions could not.
I'll give it a try and see.
addfoster said:
Hey all,
One off the pet hates i have about the hermes as compared to the wizard is the loss off the volume adjust on the left hand side.
I like the scroll wheel on the hermes but i hate that it doesn't automatically activate the volume bar, having to get out the stylus and tap the volume icon, or smudge up the screen trying to clumsily tap it with my thumb is annoying.
Is there anyway of making a press and hold of the wheel activate the volume? or anything along those lines?
I'm sure I'm not the only one with this pet hate.
Thanks in advance.
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Think I may have the solution to your needs:
What I've done is use this portions of Wisbar (WisVol.exe) someone extracted from the full program.
Copied WisVol.exe to SD Card under programs
Made a Shortcut to: \Windows\Start Menu (with Resco Explorer)
Mapped my PTT Key to the new shortcut
Now I can access the volume with out using my stylus.
I use the PTT open the volume settings and the wheel to increase or decrease the volume.
Hope this helps....
Here is the file....
PTT Key?
Thanks Jac, I will have to give this a try. I should be able to map the exe directly to a key using aebutton plus. Hopefully this works.
PERFECT!!!! Just gave it a try. Linked my PTT key to the program using AEButtons Plus and now when I press it I can scroll my volume.
Thanks for the tim Jac. Somebody should build this into the next rom.
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PTT Key?
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On ATT 8525 HTC Phones have a new function Push To Talk (PTT) Kinda like a walkie talkie function
ahhh, well i got it all as i need now, using that wisbar and AEButton plus. Thanks to all.
Hi all,
I wanted you all to know another cool feature, use AEButton to trigger the wisbar volume bubble from the following post (it does not adjust volume on first click and it has a smaller step for volume settings):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1591985&postcount=5
Regards,
Nika.
WisBar Volume CAB
I've been using Wisbar Volume for quite a while and it's been wonderful...
To give back a little here is a cab I've made for easy install and removal with a shortcut to start menu (sorry no graphics for the shortcut)
I've also been using for a while the Wisbar Volume control above...it works great!
Hi,
Is it possible to use the volume control as a scroll wheel (like in blackberry ).
I rarely use the volume knob but it would have been amazing if we could use it to scroll through the documents.
o2xdas said:
Hi,
Is it possible to use the volume control as a scroll wheel (like in blackberry ).
I rarely use the volume knob but it would have been amazing if we could use it to scroll through the documents.
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Can't you use the dpad?
dpad works fine.
I feel a scroll bar will be more handy the way for single handed operations.
Just wanted to check if this is workable and if someone has done this before.
o2xdas said:
dpad works fine.
I feel a scroll bar will be more handy the way for single handed operations.
Just wanted to check if this is workable and if someone has done this before.
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Ok, I've undestood...
I said "use Dpad" because I've got a Touch, so it is the easiest way to scroll pages... It is central and can be used by one hand...
I don't know how other dpads are...
You can try AEBPlus (Google it), a program which allows you to assign any hard key to almost any function. I transformed my Touch's volume keys to a scroll wheel with it.
Heya.
There was an App. called Smartskey for the wizard that made the Volume keys scroll and the a long press of the Left Softkey Start Menu and a long press of the Right softkey and OK button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256525
Should work for you as it works on my Touch Dual.
Sam
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Heya.
There was an App. called Smartskey for the wizard that made the Volume keys scroll and the a long press of the Left Softkey Start Menu and a long press of the Right softkey and OK button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256525
Should work for you as it works on my Touch Dual.
Sam
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This works great mate. Thanks a ton.
Normal scroll would have been perfect (Instead of Page Up/down) but this is real good.
Hello,
since yesterday I am a proud owner of the x1i (from tmobile in germany).
Some months ago in pre-reviews there was a hw button on the left side and as far as I understand it was written that it is possible to configure the functionality to it (like screen rotating).
But know, I see that there is no button on the left side, there is just a small sent with the size of a hw button
Because I have installed the touch flow 3d I does currently not need the panels. So my idea is to configure the panel button to rotate the screen.
But I was disappointed because it is only allowed to configure both softkeys but I want to use them for left/right menu usage.
So my question:
It is possible (patch, registry tweak) to configure the other hardware buttons like:
- Panel
- Camera
- Hang up button
Normal press / long press (hold) to other thinks like:
- Screen rotating?
- etc.?
any idea?
best regards,
stefan
Hi stefan,
a lot of people are truying, but up to now without success, as I can read.
I too miss more buttons, but knew this before buying. I have my own WAD2-UI and this is compensating this with full finger touch possibilities.
I have got another question. Is it possible to key map the qwerty keyboard? for example take a qwerty keyboard and make it qwertz and perhaps change special characters and replace them with special characters of your "national" keyboard?
I found a solution in an other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441191
There is a link to aebplus program, with this program you can configure every hardware button how you like and it can do even more, you can configure up to 4 functions on one hardware button:
- Simple press
- 2 pressed
- 3 presses
- long press
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Best regards,
stefan
This is well known but I have read that it does not work on Xperia X1
pf said:
This is well known but I have read that it does not work on Xperia X1
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Where have you read? Do tell.
AEBPlus Work Perfectly
I've tried and AEBPlus work on my Xperia perfectly just like in Touch Pro. Single, double, triple and long press all work flawlessly. Going to buy this wonderful app now
And somewhere else the author of aebutton plus explaind why he cannot access the "Panel" Button. He was saying that this dedicated Panel button is to deep integrated into the system on "driver" level (if I remember correctly).
Claus
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I've tried and AEBPlus work on my Xperia perfectly just like in Touch Pro. Single, double, triple and long press all work flawlessly. Going to buy this wonderful app now
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has anyone found some software to edit the softkeys ? i'd rather not have to edit the registry ...
i appear to have different entries for my softkeys in my standard windows today screen and also in my tf3d home screen, none of which i seem to be able to update.
AE Button Plus
AE Button Plus works just fine on the X1.
The 'dent' you mention on the side, as far as I can tell is purely a finger rest for when you are using the camera.
Okay, I can see that I can assign long-press Send and End keys, but I want to assign a function to the Back key (short press) - can it be done?
since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...
I'm not sure that Volume slider has been mappable on any of these devices. Previously I used SPB PocketPlus to map buttons, but on the HD the poplists in the setup don't work so I can't try it...
I am currently using AEBPlus to assign the buttons.I was able to map volume up, volume down and ok buttons to various functions.But unfortunately I am unable to map the HOme button.Can anyone let me know how to assign some functions for HOme button using AEBPlus please?
regards
vijay
Brilliant! AE Button Plus works perfectly, OK=Back. I love this site...
any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?
truthseekers said:
any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?
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You don't need to ask the same question wherever you go and also create a thread for that!
ok
i see what you mean. I just figured it might not get read if here at the end of an older thread... hehe you mods notice everything ;-)
Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.
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Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.
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Yes you can.
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Yes you can.
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Beauty!
Then I have no more issue with the lack of D-pad now.
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Yes you can.
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Could you explain how to configure to apply to on off button.
Aside from that, does someone know how to get "long" working?
It tried to give the "Back arrow" additional functions.
1,2,3 times work fine, but long does not.
Also what is the default action of "Back arrow"
I do not find it on the list? Which number
So I could configure 1 times with default action
and 2 and 3 with something else.
Home button on AE plus
Has anyone found the home button "name" in AU Button plus yet?
This thread mentioned the name for the "back"-button is "OK" in AE button plus and that does work. (except foor the long press option, that I could not get to work, but double tap works fine)
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since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...
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pzucchel, I'm with you! I've realised that I actually used the scroll wheel on the Trinity much more than the D-pad, so AE buttons is a godsend!
I've got volume up/down to become arrow up/down, but how about the Trinity press-to-select on the scroll wheel? I can't get the long press on the vol buttons to work otherwise it'd be perfect...
What version of AEBPlus are you using?
I installed AEBPlus 2.6.3 to enable turning the screen while pressing the volume up button.
This version is a 14 day trail version, there is however a freeware 1.0.1 version but that one is not officialy supporting the Blackstone.
Which version are you using? I find $14 a lot for changing the behaviour of one key...
AEButton will NOT stop working after 14 days, and all the functions you really want will still be there
What is the difference between trial and registered version?
Two things only:
1. Splash screen appears during device starting up.
2. "Action list" is blocked in trial mode
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Good to know! Didn't see that when reading the website...
Anyway - is there an easy trick to assign the "volume up" pressed for >1 sec to rotating the screen to landscape (270 deg) and portrait?
/me is thinking of a registry tweak...
I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?
tomasn said:
I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?
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There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
Yerry said:
There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
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OK, I can see that you want to push your own solution but as far as I can see it does not support the Home button either. Also it supports a lot fewer actions than AE Button Plus does.