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a question for those of you who've had their Execs for a little while now: what's the screen like? I was paranoid about scratching mine with the stylus so put a screen protector after a day or two.
problem is it feels so thick that I might as well have thrown a big blanket over the screen... the exec doesn't notice the stylus unless I press really quite hard, so it might be defeating the purpose anyway
what do people think?
is there anyone who has been using theirs for a while without a protector who could say what the screen is like now?
you should use the screen protector. otherwise your screen will look like mine... however, i use it too much...
i've made a mistake and bought a GOOD protector when i noticed the damage on the screen.
So don't be that stupid as me and buy it before it's too late.
BTW, i bought one from www.Innopocket.com and it is still on my screen for last 6 months...
It is non glare, very hard surface, thin protector.
Writing is exactly the same as without it. Screen visibility is much better WITH it, thanx to it's non reflective surface.
buzz
Agree with buzz - you can be as carful as u want but dust on screen makes stylus scratchy.
Having said that, for my last few XDA's they all got scratched, THEN I put a protector on and they look as good as new!
I have had 5 or 6 different pocket pc's over time all of them for at least a year, i never ever used a screen protector and when i sold them they were almust as new without scratches.
My universal wont get a screen protector on that gives me a bad picture quality. i wanna enjoy the great screen on the device, not walking around with a bad screen so the next owner can have a good screen.
just my two cents
the best screen protectors are made by martin fields....you wont even know its there!
go here to buy... www.doml.com
frozenwaffles said:
the best screen protectors are made by martin fields....you wont even know its there!
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yeah - that's the type i'm using... although i'm really not getting on with it - like i say, it feels really thick, and seems to make the screen far less responsive
i spent quite a bit on it, though - so am reluctant to try buying others, and gotta admit, i was hoping to hear that i could just pull it off and forget about it
you should get one from Brando HK. their ultra clear screen protector is the best protector I have ever used on earth.
Yes you should use a screen protector.
Not only does it protect screen it also reduces glair very usefull if you use GPS. I got mine from www.proporta.com ther also do a nice case.
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Colin Bate
I had a wallaby for 12 months & a himalaya for 18 months, both without protectors & both looked fine when it came time to sell. I carried them in my pocket with the screen facing my leg. As you can close the screen on the exec, I'm even less concerned.
However, the anti glare part sounds like a good thing
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you should get one from Brando HK. their ultra clear screen protector is the best protector I have ever used on earth.
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Which are the best you've used in other places? j/k
Hi,
I searched but did not get any useful results.
This is about the invisibleshield.
I would like to ask anyone using the invisibleshield, if their screen protector is
1. made of the same material as what is used for the rest of the full body shield,
and also, from my experience with the invisibleshield for iPod, I noticed that it was rather sticky or clingy meaning that it was more of a slightly rubbery than plasticy texture that is found on most common, generic screen protectors. My question is: Will this affect the touchscreenability of the Tilt, meaning that
2. am I able to move my stylus over the screen easily without it being all squeakily resistant to my stylus inputs
3. and if I am able to move my finger across the screen for TouchFlo
4. and finally if using the invisibleshield will somehow make the screen less sensitive as compared to as if I were to use the generic "plastic" screen protector.
Thanks in advance!
Is 'touchscreenability' a real word?
No, I made it up. It sounds nice though.
No, I made it up. It sounds nice though.
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There seems to be an abundance of creating new words on this site. lol.
I prefer the made up word 'touchscreeniness' though
Sorry for nitpicking
I don't have an answer for your query yet, I am yet to purchase the invisible shield. I will probably do so sometime next week.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes, but I personally doesn't like touching the screen with my fingers. It'll smudges
4. No
Yes, the screen does have some resistance to the stylus. I eventually got used to it because my Kaiser is slow and I need to scroll slowly anyway.
Overall a great product. I'm selling my Kaiser today on eBay (bought it for the video camera and i'm disappointed) and the screen + body is flawless.
Sorry to head about your Kaiser. I didn't think it would be so frustratingly slow.
Thanks for letting me know.
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Sorry to head about your Kaiser. I didn't think it would be so frustratingly slow.
Thanks for letting me know.
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I just bought a ATT Tilt from eBay and I would need to purchase few accessories.
Can you provide your feedback once you installed the Invisibleshield on your Kaiser/TyTn II? thanks
The Invisibleshield works good after you get use to the feeling of the screen. I've used other shields on my Tilt and I think they are better compared to the Invisibleshield for navigating. I'm actually going to replace it later with one I had before. I do have the invisibleshield on other devices (camera, Dell PDA, old phone) and it works well. With the Tilt, I flash ROMs that are much quicker than the stock ROM and sometimes you have to apply more pressure with the stylus or finger to navigate.
What I would recommend is get the Invisibleshield, try it out and if it doesn't work they have a money back guarantee.
Yes, I found it to be unbearable on my 8GB Zune's screen, So when I got mine for my Tilt, I decided to only install the body protector and install a different screen protector, one made by Javo. The Javo screen protector is excellent, it comes with a cleaning microfiber cloth and a squeegee card, and it is really good. The invisibleshield, on the other hand, makes the screen all colored weird, and it looks like crap.
Thanks for the input. I'm actually fine with the body protector but may do what Crazysamz did, applying a different screen protector for the tilt.
I installed it on my Tilt four days ago. Here is what I think of it: its a piece of sh|t.
1. The screen was hard to see outdoors before, now it is impossible.
2. It feels like I have rubber on my screen.
3. Scrolling with the stylus gives the sensation that you might rip, tear, or stretch the shield due to its adherent grip.
4. I am using S2U2 and cannot get my finger to unlock the phone without a dedicated and concentrated effort. The stylus however, slides the bar with ease.
In my opinion, it is unusable and a horrible waste of money. I should have known this was crap when the instruction said to squeegee the frikin' thing on as if it was a vinyl overlay (which I think it might actually be)!
A good screen protector should be more rigid and solid (like the screen itself). Furthermore, it should have anti-glare coating and not this egg shell looking crap as the invisibleshield has.
The cheap shield I bought from the cart vendor at the mall for $5.00 was much better than this!
jimlivingston said:
I installed it on my Tilt four days ago. Here is what I think of it: its a piece of sh|t.
1. The screen was hard to see outdoors before, now it is impossible.
2. It feels like I have rubber on my screen.
3. Scrolling with the stylus gives the sensation that you might rip, tear, or stretch the shield due to its adherent grip.
4. I am using S2U2 and cannot get my finger to unlock the phone without a dedicated and concentrated effort. The stylus however, slides the bar with ease.
In my opinion, it is unusable and a horrible waste of money. I should have known this was crap when the instruction said to squeegee the frikin' thing on as if it was a vinyl overlay (which I think it might actually be)!
A good screen protector should be more rigid and solid (like the screen itself). Furthermore, it should have anti-glare coating and not this egg shell looking crap as the invisibleshield has.
The cheap shield I bought from the cart vendor at the mall for $5.00 was much better than this!
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Thanks for the detailed review.
But instead of calling it a waste of money, do you think it would be better if you used the shield for the body of the device and another screen protector for the screen? or did you just get the screen protector for it?
I actually have it on my iPod and it does have a very uneven surface when viewing it from an angle, which is quite annoying because it doesn't look that nice.
I bought the screen protector only.
I have the InvisibleShield for my Hermes and my Blackjack (full body kit with the screen protector) and it works alright. It isn't great and it is a little "tacky" (meaning sticky). My biggest complaint is that if you just put your phone in your pocket it will eventually get dirt and pocket lint all round the edges of the protector film (which is a lot of edges if you have the full body kit).
I ended up pulling some of the kit off the Hermes because it looked terrible after a couple months. The big plus to the InvisibleShield is they tend to make a slick/slippery phone much less prone to dropping because they are so sticky.
Right now I'm absolutely in love with the Martin Field's protectors, they are much more rigid and smoother than the InvisibleShield. They work very good for the Tilt/Kaiser and are cut to fit perfect (great for TouchFLO). They are also removable and washable, and much much easier to install than the others I've tried. So far I've bought them for my Tilt, Archos 605, Sony UX, my 2nd Blackjack, HTC S620 and iPod Touch...
If you can't find the link for them let me know and I'll dig up the URL.
I have been a fan of invisibleshield when it came out for ipods. It is still keeping my ipod awesome, but the topic here is touch screen ability. I had it for my wizard. Your screen will be totally protected, but the movement isn't all that great. Feels very rubbery, but you can still click on the screen. I really suggest another protector, but only problem is, you won't get the full protection. but as long as you are careful, with another screen protector, the feel of the screen is worth it.
my only complaint is being too grippy. Like others reported, I have trouble sliding and touchflowing. Its tolerable for me though, not a dealbreaker.
The Invisibleshield is good but it depends on the application. For the Tilt I think it's not a good application (screen protector) as others have said it's not very responsive. However, I do have the invisible shield on other devices such as my digital camera LCD and it works great. They also have a good life time replacement policy.
I have been using the boxwave for my Blackberry and the Overlay plus for my other phones. I love them both and I think I am going to get the Overlay plus for Tilt and get the invisiblesheild body protection for it too.
I'm planning to get the full coverage and I was wondering how does it feel like on the back? Does it feel like you're holding a plastic bag or something? I like how smooth the back of the Kaiser battery door is.
Is it the same kind of touchscreen as all the other HTC models have or is it like the iPhone....
The onlu thing about the iphone is it's touch screen of hard glass coated with stuff to make it touch sensitive.
This looks to be hard glass too but it's very hard to see on video is there anybody who knows if it's hard glass or the same kind of touch screen as the Touch pro has...
Watskeburt,
Well the French chick in the video decribed the HD as having a better touchscreen than the diamond and it bieng almost as good as the Iphones. Although the Iphones touch screen is capacitive.
The Hd's touch screen is still pressure sensitive.
The HD's touch screen will be the same as the Diamond and Touch Pro. As the guy in the video was saying it was sensitive, he scrolled along the bottom of TF3D and it stopped going with his finger and treated it as a tap later down the line of icons. No touch screen can compare to a capacitive screen, the iPhone and G1 will always be more sensitive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiw5PsQ50Uc
Skip to like 1:25, as he says it's a very sensitive screen it doesn't even track his finger along the bottom.
The screen isn't multitouch compatible. if that's what you were asking.
No i was just wondering what kind of glass was used.
Is it lik ethe iPhone. Regular hardened glass with a touch sensitive coating ( that wears off after a while i know)
or is it the same old touchscreen that we are used to. You know sevral layers of thin glass and plastic that's so easy to scratch and break......
Well, "scratch" and "break" are relative, IMO. The iPhone's glass screen may have a more durable feel under normal finger usage but can shatter more easily when dropped, whereas plastics might feel cheaper but have a bit more give for better durability under sudden shock.
Resistance to scratches will depend wholly on the type of scratch abuse and choice of screen protector.
As far as the glass+capacitive coating (on the iPhone) goes, let me say that resistive touchscreens are also susceptible to damage, namely the "oil patch" where the touch-sensitive layer is subject to too much pressure and "breaks" (not immediately, but over time it loses its accuracy/sensitivity) and discoloration similar to an oil patch appears. This has happened to me on my Touch Pro, and others on their Diamonds, and I suspect it might happen on the HD as well (since it is also a flush-mounted touch-resistive display).
The capacitance screen of the iPhone also means it cannot be used with anything other than a finger, i.e. no stylus. This means that every interface has to be sized accordingly for finger user rather than being able to be smaller and more detailed for stylus use.
It's true that in the french video the menu scroller does not keep up with his finger. However, he is brushing the menu very lightly in order to demonstrate that the pressure threshold is much lower. No, it does not equal a capacitive screen, but he does specifically state that it is different to that of the diamond in terms of sensitivity. The diamond requires a lot of pressure, and you don't need a capacitive screen just to have it respond to much less pressure.
capacitance screen for winmo?
I wonder whether it would be possible for a capacitance screen to work with WinMo? I am massively jealous of the easy usability of my friend's iPhone, but at the end of the day, I use winmo programs. Capacitance screens feels like a superior technology - it just works better with your fingers
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I wonder whether it would be possible for a capacitance screen to work with WinMo? I am massively jealous of the easy usability of my friend's iPhone, but at the end of the day, I use winmo programs. Capacitance screens feels like a superior technology - it just works better with your fingers
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I disagree about the superior technology. As was said earlier in this thread you can't use a stylus witha captive screen or gloved fingers come to think about it. What about a combination of the 2, that would be superior tech.
I can tell you that the screen is really great. better than i thought.
It is still a resitive screen, but it feels like glass, especially after you put the screen protector which comes with the device on the screen. an as far as it goes, i think its very scratch resistent, even against fingernails and so.
It doesn't even feel like you are pressign the screen, its much more like the iphone glass display and comes very close to it.
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I disagree about the superior technology. As was said earlier in this thread you can't use a stylus witha captive screen or gloved fingers come to think about it. What about a combination of the 2, that would be superior tech.
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Sorry, but it is a common misconception that capacitive touch screens cannot work with stlylii. (largely attributed to iphone not requiring or shipping with a stylus)
Have a look here
http://www.fashionfunky.com/2008/08/japanese_iphone_stylus.php
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/a31f/?cpg=ab
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Sorry, but it is a common misconception that capacitive touch screens cannot work with stlylii. (largely attributed to iphone not requiring or shipping with a stylus)
Have a look here
http://www.fashionfunky.com/2008/08/japanese_iphone_stylus.php
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/a31f/?cpg=ab
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Ok Ok. You can use a stylus with a capacitive screen but it has to be charged i.e produce electrons. On HTC devices you can use anything thats at hand.
Like i said before i like the feeling of a capacitive screen but it does lack in key areas. A combination of the 2 screens would be the future, but i'm sure there are technical limitations to such a project.
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Ok Ok. You can use a stylus with a capacitive screen but it has to be charged i.e produce electrons. On HTC devices you can use anything thats at hand.
Like i said before i like the feeling of a capacitive screen but it does lack in key areas. A combination of the 2 screens would be the future, but i'm sure there are technical limitations to such a project.
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this is way off topic , but what you want is already out here - http://www.touchscreens.com/intro-touchtypes.html
fallenczar said:
this is way off topic , but what you want is already out here - http://www.touchscreens.com/intro-touchtypes.html
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Now that my friend is the future! Lol
Sorry to all if we are going off topic
I wear leather gloves when it is cold and I am happy that I would not need to take them off to use my phone and freeze my fingers when outside. I have seen iphone users wearing gloves taking them off to use the phone. I guess another perk to using pressure sensitive screen - warmer hands
seeing no body answered OP's question, but all came at a very close tangent, i'll take a stab at it.
HD's screen is not glass, it cannot be glass like iphone because HD requires it screen to "bend" and "depress" a little at the specific spot so the second layer can sense the pressure. the first//top layer is only a screen, touch/pressure panel is beneath that.
do you definitely need to put a screen protector on or is it going to be pretty scratch resistant without?
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do you definitely need to put a screen protector on or is it going to be pretty scratch resistant without?
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I didn't test ist without the screen protector (but the one which is in the package is very good and invisible, as the edges are perfectly cut.)
With the Screen protector of the packages, it seems very scratch resistant and fells like the glass iphone screen
did the screen protector go on easy or do you have the bubbling problem?, this is the main reason i dont bother with screen protectors.
I purchased an Invisible Shield and I am not happy with it. It has a soft surface that gives it a slightly tacky feel when gesturing with a finger and is even worse with the stylus which is driving me crazy. I'm sorry I took the factory screen protector off and discarded it!
Does anyone have a good screen protector to recommend?
TIA
I've been using a Martin Fields for a couple of months and it's been great. It covers the screen and has a seperate bit for the touch pad. I hardly know it's there.
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I've been using a Martin Fields for a couple of months and it's been great. It covers the screen and has a seperate bit for the touch pad. I hardly know it's there.
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Thanks! I've ordered one.
I've always used a Boxwave ClearShield. They are awesome.
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I've always used a Boxwave ClearShield. They are awesome.
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I use this one too and I agree. It's been great.
I just threw away my Invisible shield protector.. The touch response sucks!!
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I just threw away my Invisible shield protector.. The touch response sucks!!
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I agree....I got a Invisible shield previously for my iPod touch and was very satisfied...but for the HTC Touch pPro its terrible. If you're still within the 30 days of purchase send your Invisible shield back for a full refund (minus shipping costs). That's what I'm doing..but first you have to email them for a rma number.
I am really happy with the ghost armor I just got, it feels really slick with the stylus unlike invisible shield.
For the people with Martin Shield do you also notice the significantly decreased sensitivity of stylus?
I had an anti-flare/fingerprint one on. It was good but the brightness was greatly reduced, not the sensitivity though.
JoeWilcox said:
I've always used a Boxwave ClearShield. They are awesome.
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I use this one too and I agree. It's been great.
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What is the Boxwave ClearTouch like? Is it at all tacky like the invisible shield? Or is it more like the screen protector that came with the Fuze? Do you have a pic of your phone with it on that you can post? Or better yet a video on youtube of it?
Thanks.
Edit: Did you get the anti-glare or the crystal???
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What is the Boxwave ClearTouch like? Is it at all tacky like the invisible shield? Or is it more like the screen protector that came with the Fuze? Do you have a pic of your phone with it on that you can post? Or better yet a video on youtube of it?
Thanks.
Edit: Did you get the anti-glare or the crystal???
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I have the ClearTouch Crystal. It's very similar to the one that came originally with the Fuze except the Boxwave also comes with a protector for the home keys. Not tacky at all, very smooth when swiping/scrolling.
I haven't recieved my phone yet, so my question is.
Do i need a screen protector or is the screen of the hd2 scratsfree?
looks like it is scratchproof
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looks like it is scratchproof
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Ok thanks, so a little bit like glass?
if we are spending 500 euro on a device, what we are going to lose in spending 10-15 more? prevention is better.always.
BTW, I have ordered a screen protector along with my HD2 preorder
For that kind of dough they should have included one, they do with most all their other lines currently.
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Ok thanks, so a little bit like glass?
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Feels solid like glass. The only bad thing about it, its a fingerprint magnet, and reflects light a lot.
Nothing is scratch proof, except for the hardest material (= very expensive ). One tiny sand particle can mess up an entire iphone screen within seconds.
Edit: I should add that of course a glass screen would be "less prone" to scratches in general than some form of polymer. So if you do not want to worry about scratching the screen, get a screen protector. If not, you'll probably be fine, but it's not guaranteed.
according to a review, the screen is made of special material, put screen protector will slow down the response. but it is still a good idea to protect it.
The term "special material" has a broad meaning. But yes, a screenprotector can interfere with the response, though I'm sure a screenprotector of a special material can be made as well, so it will have an insignificant influence on the response of the screen (see what I did there? ).
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Feels solid like glass. The only bad thing about it, its a fingerprint magnet, and reflects light a lot.
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It's a great surface to use it as a mirror
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It's a great surface to use it as a mirror
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Yeah, this is before it get scratches on it
I'm surprised no one has pointed out the capacitive screen responds only to fingers.....well maybe a special stylus, but I think you'll agree most of us will be using our fingers......
So in that event, what's the purpose of a screen protector?
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I'm surprised no one has pointed out the capacitive screen responds only to fingers.....well maybe a special stylus, but I think you'll agree most of us will be using our fingers......
So in that event, what's the purpose of a screen protector?
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True, your finger won't scratch the screen, however when you have your phone in your pocket and say with some coins or keys or in your bag a screen protector will be very handy to protect your expensive gadget.
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True, your finger won't scratch the screen, however when you have your phone in your pocket and say with some coins or keys or in your bag a screen protector will be very handy to protect your expensive gadget.
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Would that be a man bag?
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Would that be a man bag?
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...lol I dont have one but there is nothing wrong with a man bag... and I think there is a few girls on these forum
uh - yeah
I'm a girl and I do carry a small purse. I think I will have to investigate screen protectors. Don't want one that will interrupt the touch capabilities but I'm sure someone makes them. Better to be safe than sorry. I keep my phones for a couple of years. Not much worse than a scratched screen.
I will definitely put one on, not because I'm worried about the glass being scratched but I want an anti-glare protector which should help with fingerprints, smudges, glare and help a teeny weeny bit with sunlight legibility.
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according to a review, the screen is made of special material, put screen protector will slow down the response. but it is still a good idea to protect it.
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This may be so for resistive screens, but for the HD2 which uses a capacitive screen I think a screen protector would make no difference.
And about a response, either its there or its not I don't think it would be slowed down lol.
I am considering purchasing a 'BodyGuardz' screen protector which is meant to be really good. Maybe anyone else who is going to by a screen protector should take a look. Its basically a cheaper version of InvisibleShield
I would definitely put on a screen protector the moment I unbox it.
Not just the screen protector, but also a case (I prefer a silicon soft case) for the side and back of the phone.
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I haven't recieved my phone yet, so my question is.
Do i need a screen protector or is the screen of the hd2 scratsfree?
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tested the phone for a while and no need off protector