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Who to use for push email

I have the latest rom and want to sign up for push email using outlook so my diary is always up to date too, anyone recommended a good provider
Cheers
Chris

Which country are you in?
Personally I am using intellisync and DON'T need the push email update.
And I am getting full replication of my diary, contacts, emails, notes etc.
My Blackberry has been handed back to my IT department.
EXCELLENT.
Robin
PS I am in the UK

How does Intellisync work? I've been to their website, but just get a load of rubbish - nothing on how it actually works.
Does it use GPRS, Wi-Fi?

Intellisync
Thats exactly what i have just though reading it, all i want is to have my outlook email, contacts and diary always up to date and email sent to my device as it arrives

fastmail
I use fastmail for my imap pushmail. It's not suitable for contacts/calendar sync.
M

I use t´his, I use that......Nice to know
But, how does it work, where do i get it and so on.....
I need a system to get my mail pushed or "blackberried" to my MDA Vario
I have a debian/confixx-Server, is there maybe any software that i can install to use this for email-push. If this is so, i woul give acces to XDA.developers-users

For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin

@oltp
How do you achieve 'pushmail' using fastmail? I too have an imap fastmail account but I can not get it to 'push' my emails.

You're damn lucky, I almost backed-out of this thread. You need a third-party pushmail client. I use vgsmail for this http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ Mind you it isn't perfect, so I only use it for private mail not for business mail. My company doesn't allow that anyway. The support & updates from the developer are ok though.
Cheers, M

Another web sync site www.plaxo.com
regards, M

free opensource application for your server to get push email:
Sync4j
has aslo been reviewed at msmobiles.com
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4892.html
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L

Robster said:
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?

I'm trialling pocket x-press. No frills - not cheap, but it seems to do what I want.
https://www.pocketxpress.com/

pj123 said:
Robster said:
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?
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Sorry.
It does say Intellisync in a number of places but here is the website of the company I am actually using.
http://www.esemail.net/
Sorry about that.
Robin

Thanks

Thanks Robin,
That looks interesting, but I can't find a monthly cost anywhere on their website. Don't like the idea of signing up for a free 14 day trial without knowing the costs.
Would you please tell us how much you pay per month?
Thanks

plaxo is free

Its not cheap.
I thik about £15 a month.
But for me, only having to carry one device AND always having a fully upto date diary and email is a REAL boon and worth it.
Robin

If anyone wants a free way to get push e-mail, you just need an exchange server. If your company doesn't have one, you can get one for FREE from mail2web.com.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/

Anyone got an Exchange Hosting guide?

For push email, looks like I'll be using one of the exchange hostsing services:
1&1
Option 1: 69p/mth for "Instant Email"
"1&1 Instant Mail gives you 5 dedicated POP3/IMAP e-mail accounts to create [email protected]. Send and receive e-mail from any Internet - connected computer."
Option 2: £5.99/mth for "Microsoft Exchange"
"Experience the benefits of seamless communication and collaboration with Microsoft Exchange. Use Outlook to send and receive e-mail from any Internet-connected computer."
4SmartPhone.Net
Option 1: $3.99 for "Express"
Includes Push Email, Wireless Sync, OWA: Outlook Web Access
Option 2: $6.99 for "Professional"
As above plus Outlook 2003 support, Sharing of email, contacts, calendar and tasks
Mail2Web
Option 1: FREE - Pop3, IMAP4 or SMTP not supported (huh???)
Option 2: $1.99 for "Personal Exchange"
"With our Enhanced Email plan, based on Microsoft Exchange, you are never far from your email, contact, schedule and other personal information. It’s all available from either your desktop, the web, as well as any Windows-powered mobile devices as Pocket PC, Pocket PC Phone Edition and Microsoft Windows®-powered Smartphones. Get information as it arrives where ever you may be.
Microsoft Exchange is much more than an email solution - it's a complete messaging solution that goes way beyond email to provide calendars, task management, contact lists, advanced rules for sorting your messages and much more.
Previously this solution was only available to businesses but we have developed a special version with the individual in mind. Now you can get your own Personal Exchange account on the mail2web.com domain."
OK, now I'm confused...
What exactly does everyone else use, and how much does it cost, what option and what does it give you?

looks like very attractive services, wonder if anyone has had a few months using these services, and can comment on the reliability etc.
Always a bit weary of hosted services, had dropped emails from hosted services in the past!

I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.

trapper said:
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!

Does it include the Universal client or are you using a new ROM?

There isn't a client as such as the functionality is already built into ALL of the Roms.
The main difference is the existing ROMs may not have the push functionality that a lot of people are waiting for.
I used smartphone during the trial on my original O2 ROM, this meant an SMS being sent to my device everytime I got a new message, however once I got hold of a ROM with push technology, I tested it with an Exchange Beta and it just worked out of the box - I suspect the same will be the case for 4smartphone.

belfast-biker said:
trapper said:
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!
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Also, I was downloading an outlook profile to I can use my outlook fully synced as well as OWA, and there was a problem which stopped me getting into my outlook at all!
I emailed them, and they replied with a full solution within 20 minutes. On a Sunday!
I tend to judge a company by how they handle things like this - any company is good when things work, but when things go wrong it's good to know you'll not be left up the creek without a paddle.
Top marks. Will definitely be buying the years service after the 15 day trial.

I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?

trapper said:
I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?
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Yup, in Business Sales. I've to give a training session in Data tomorrow - group shared tariffs, personal tariffs, GPRS/3G/Wifi, BlackBerry vs. XDA, Email vs. Push Email, that kinda thing. Having done all this at the weekend will help me - otherwise I'd be telling them to tell our customers that if they want Push Email on the XDA IQ, they'd have to invest in Server 2003, Exchange etc etc.... at least this way, you do without all those capital costs and do it for just £4 per month to 4smartphone.net, plus minor data costs. Although I'd not recommend the process to normal humans.

How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:

trapper said:
How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:
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You only get the Direct Push Email button option in the xconnections manager once you set up your activesync properly, and manual instructions for this are on their web page quite good ones I may add. I could foolow them!

Outlook Mobile 6....

Well, i have seen numerous versions of WM6 in the other parts of these forums, and we recently got AKU3.3 (which i am more than satisfied with..)
however, lots wants more (not sure that is the correct translation )
I wonder if there are any way to extract Outlook Mobile 6 from the WM6 and install/replace Outlook Mobile 5 (Wm5).
I believe stranger things has happen on these forums
why would I want this? Well, basically, html mailsupport and because of that stop using Flexmail (don't quite like it..it is good, but hey, Outlook are so much more integrated with the os + emoze works only with Outlook.
anyone is doing this already? knows if it is possible?

Keep in mind what you're asking for from your is actually a 3-component solution:
- Outlook for WM6 on the handheld
- Outlook 2007 on the desktop
- Exchange 2007 on the server

goestoeleven said:
Keep in mind what you're asking for from your is actually a 3-component solution:
- Outlook for WM6 on the handheld
- Outlook 2007 on the desktop
- Exchange 2007 on the server
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And?

I guess his point is that very very few organizations currently use Exchange 2007.

i got two out of three
however, does html mail ONLY work with exchange 2007? not imap for example? and why not with 2003?

klasikahl said:
I guess his point is that very very few organizations currently use Exchange 2007.
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Agreed but those numbers should increase in the short term.
And I got 2 out of the 3 as well

Application/Software to Update PIM on PC?

Is there an application (other than MS Outlook via ActiveSync) that allows you to load the PIM file onto your PC and update/edit via the PC?
Please don't say use ActiveSync. I have not been able to Sync since 9/06. I have posted my ActiveSync problem (many times) on this site and on HowardForums and have not resolved it. Thank you in advance.

nope.. there aint

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nope.. there aint
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Thank you for your reply. However, I would still like to find another solution to edit/change my PIM on my PC with a specific application as I store my PIM backup on my 1Gb Card. Thanks again!

asctony said:
Is there an application (other than MS Outlook via ActiveSync) that allows you to load the PIM file onto your PC and update/edit via the PC?
Please don't say use ActiveSync. I have not been able to Sync since 9/06. I have posted my ActiveSync problem (many times) on this site and on HowardForums and have not resolved it. Thank you in advance.
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Ok, this isn't exactly what you asked for but there are some other options... You can use SyncML to sync your contacts, address book, tasks with a remote server (depending on the service you sync with is whether you can edit it on the server). To do this though, requires you to find a SyncML Client for PPC (since its not built into Windows Mobile (stupid Microsoft who thinks the entire world lives on Outlook and Exchange)). I've only used Sythesis SyncML (Its what we use in my company to sync with our servers). This is not a free program, but the basic version is only like $25. You can google to see if you can find other clients.
Then you need a server to sync with. Here's a couple I've heard about (and are supposed to be free). I've never used them myself so can't comment on how well they work:
http://www.o-sync.com/
https://zyb.com/
If you use Google for Calendar (I don't think it does address book) you can use:
https://www.goosync.com/
This (from the pictures) appears to be the Synthesis client (probably modified for GooSync). Not sure if you can customize it for other services or if it will only do calendar as I haven't installed it.
Again, I know its not exactly what you asked for, but it is a way to sync outside of the USB cable. My company uses Oracle Collabsuite (seeing how I work for Oracle, that makes sense ) and I use SyncML all the time on my Cingular 8125 via Synthesis SyncML client. Works great (most of the time) and allows me to keep my calendar, tasks, and contacts sync'd with no attachment to a PC (so I can sync in my car, while in a waiting room, or wherever).

mfrazzz said:
Ok, this isn't exactly what you asked for but there are some other options... You can use SyncML to sync your contacts, address book, tasks with a remote server (depending on the service you sync with is whether you can edit it on the server). To do this though, requires you to find a SyncML Client for PPC (since its not built into Windows Mobile (stupid Microsoft who thinks the entire world lives on Outlook and Exchange)). I've only used Sythesis SyncML (Its what we use in my company to sync with our servers). This is not a free program, but the basic version is only like $25. You can google to see if you can find other clients.
Then you need a server to sync with. Here's a couple I've heard about (and are supposed to be free). I've never used them myself so can't comment on how well they work:
http://www.o-sync.com/
https://zyb.com/
If you use Google for Calendar (I don't think it does address book) you can use:
https://www.goosync.com/
This (from the pictures) appears to be the Synthesis client (probably modified for GooSync). Not sure if you can customize it for other services or if it will only do calendar as I haven't installed it.
Again, I know its not exactly what you asked for, but it is a way to sync outside of the USB cable. My company uses Oracle Collabsuite (seeing how I work for Oracle, that makes sense ) and I use SyncML all the time on my Cingular 8125 via Synthesis SyncML client. Works great (most of the time) and allows me to keep my calendar, tasks, and contacts sync'd with no attachment to a PC (so I can sync in my car, while in a waiting room, or wherever).
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Thank you very much for taking the time and effort to provide a possible solution for my request. I will look into this and see if it will be a viable solution.
I was hoping that I could find a quick solution such as an application that would allow me to download a PIM file and edit it on my PC. However, I can see that there is no such thing at the present time.
Thank you again for your time and effort. I greatly appreciate it!
TonynMI

Is the Oracle calendar sometimes called "Corporate Calendar"?
A non-techy friend of mine asked me if she could sync her work PIM to an 8125 (they use what she calls "Corporate Calendar" at work... goggling seems to imply it _might_ be from Oracle, but I'm still not sure)....
This was the thread I could find that seems close... I've had a hard time getting much more info from her, as she's really not technical (but still trying to figure out what I can for her).
Thanks,
Mike

[Q] Outlook synchronization on Streak with Froyo

Hi, I bought my streak yesterday. It came pre-loaded with Android 1.6, which immediately upon switching on the device, got updated to Android 2.2.
My concern is that I am NOT ABLE TO SYNCHRONIZE my MICROSOFT OUTLOOK 2010 data like CONTACTS, TASKS, CALENDAR and MAILs to my STREAK.
Its my first android device. And for last 5 years I have been using (handheld devices/PDA's) with WINDOWS MOBILE OS with latest being HD2, and all these years, I have been very very comfortably using Activesync, to synchronize all this.
I must also mention that I have tried to do a lot of search on XDA and google, with suggestions like using third party applications, but none of them are practically working.
I am a business user and my work necessitates me to have all this outlook data (including mails) to be with me (on my handheld device) always. In fact I was delighted to read claims on XDA "There is NOTHING that an android device can not do which a winmo device can do...". But then ,this is what is the LEAST that I want to my STREAK to perform... or else I might have to return this and buy HD7!!!
Any suggestions???

VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .

00roberto00 said:
VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .
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Thanks 00roberto00, Let me try thsiright away and shall get back to you with feedback

Use the Touchdown app that came on the device. I had no problems synching information needed with outlook.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

00roberto00 said:
VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .
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While that is the theory, I have had problems with VCOrganizer duplicating my Contacts and corrupting my Outlook data. I don't believe that I am alone in this - look at the comments for this application in the App Market.
The best resource for understanding what applications are available to synchronise between Outlook and Android phones is http://syncdroid.net/ which has a very good chart comparing the features of each.

mhh. i had no probs.

00roberto00 said:
VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .
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Could not get VCorganizer to try and am not ready pay unless I am sure it will really work.
I did try CompanionLink-Dejaoffice and it is disappointing. While CompanionLink is PC based application it needs Dejaoffice simultaneously, which is the device based application. And, well... it does SYNC (only contacts/calendars/tasks and not mails!!! the great disappointment is in teh fact that the contacts which are actually synced are not part of the default contact manager, and hence one can not USE it practically thorugh the dialpad for making calls, and even that incoming calls (of any saved contact) does not get recognized!!!
I am ready to pay any good amount provided I get something as useful as Activesync of Windows mobiles!!!

bennysangel said:
Use the Touchdown app that came on the device. I had no problems synching information needed with outlook.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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Thanks Bennysangel.
Touchdown is an exchange server client. I mean I am not sure if it will really do the needful as Activesync (desktop Activesync- for Winodws mobiles). i did google to read more about it, but as I read, it is not going to the job... that is SYNCING CONTACTS (in the default contacts managers of froyo), SYNCING MAILS and TASKS/CALENDARS!!!
Bennysangel, can you please guide me on this Touchdown with your experience on it. Thanks again.

anyway u cant sync emails even with VCOrganizer. for email sync u need some exchange client/server.
the first time u sync contacs with VCO it duplicates (its also stated on them FAQs) but after 2nd sync everything goes ok.
before VCO I tried anything else but this was the only app syncing also outlook notes and working with the 64bit office 2010

Ravindra9 said:
I am ready to pay any good amount provided I get something as useful as Activesync of Windows mobiles!!!
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I think that we are both looking for something that doesn't exist. It is not in Google's interest to make it easy for users to sync an Android phone with a Microsoft product. Google's model is based on people storing their data on their servers (where they can commercially exploit that data), and not locally on their PCs in a format which is proprietary to one of their main competitors (Microsoft).
Don't forget that ActiveSync was a Microsoft product which synchronised between two other Microsoft products (Outlook and WinMo). Perhaps you should consider a WinMo7 phone (and if there was one with a screen as big as the Streak, that's what I would probably buy)?
My personal experience is that many of the solutions which sound as if they will do the job do not live up to their advertising. I have tried a number of them now, and have had all sorts of problems (duplicated entries, corrupt data, removal of Category/Priority/Note information, incorrect date/time, etc).
As I have mentioned before, there is an extremely comprehensive list of the synchronisation solutions which are available at the Syncdroid web site. and if you do find any which are not listed there, please let the web master know, as he will add them.

Philip said:
I think that we are both looking for something that doesn't exist. It is not in Google's interest to make it easy for users to sync an Android phone with a Microsoft product. Google's model is based on people storing their data on their servers (where they can commercially exploit that data), and not locally on their PCs in a format which is proprietary to one of their main competitors (Microsoft).
Don't forget that ActiveSync was a Microsoft product which synchronised between two other Microsoft products (Outlook and WinMo). Perhaps you should consider a WinMo7 phone (and if there was one with a screen as big as the Streak, that's what I would probably buy)?
My personal experience is that many of the solutions which sound as if they will do the job do not live up to their advertising. I have tried a number of them now, and have had all sorts of problems (duplicated entries, corrupt data, removal of Category/Priority/Note information, incorrect date/time, etc).
As I have mentioned before, there is an extremely comprehensive list of the synchronisation solutions which are available at the Syncdroid web site. and if you do find any which are not listed there, please let the web master know, as he will add them.
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Thanks Philip, you are very precisely hitting the nail in the head!!!
The only reason I got attracted to buy this STREAK is due to its huge screen size- which genuinely gives the pleasure of a mobile phone cum tablet!!! I agree with you that I should prefer to buy a Windows Phone device however there is unfortunately NO other device with 5 inch screen, the nearest being HTC HD7. I am seriously considering giving up this Streak and buy HD7 now.
And for that matter, it would be a welcome if there could be some chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM (be it 6.5.x also if not windows phoen 7 OS ROM!!!) that I can flash on STREAK

Ravindra9 said:
Hi, I bought my streak yesterday. It came pre-loaded with Android 1.6, which immediately upon switching on the device, got updated to Android 2.2.
My concern is that I am NOT ABLE TO SYNCHRONIZE my MICROSOFT OUTLOOK 2010 data like CONTACTS, TASKS, CALENDAR and MAILs to my STREAK.
Its my first android device. And for last 5 years I have been using (handheld devices/PDA's) with WINDOWS MOBILE OS with latest being HD2, and all these years, I have been very very comfortably using Activesync, to synchronize all this.
I must also mention that I have tried to do a lot of search on XDA and google, with suggestions like using third party applications, but none of them are practically working.
I am a business user and my work necessitates me to have all this outlook data (including mails) to be with me (on my handheld device) always. In fact I was delighted to read claims on XDA "There is NOTHING that an android device can not do which a winmo device can do...". But then ,this is what is the LEAST that I want to my STREAK to perform... or else I might have to return this and buy HD7!!!
Any suggestions???
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Hi,
The Dell PC Suite syncs contacts, calendar, tasks & notes with Outlook. have you tried that?
http://support.dell.com/support/top...71813763D71D397E040AC0A65E96FA0&isLegacy=true

Insane Devil said:
Hi,
The Dell PC Suite syncs contacts, calendar, tasks & notes with Outlook. have you tried that?
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Doesn't work with 2.2, only with 2.1 sadly.
See this page on syncdroid.net.

Philip said:
Doesn't work with 2.2, only with 2.1 sadly.
See this page on syncdroid.net.
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Yes mate thats correct tried it a couple of weeks ago .
But when a was reading this thread i thought i would just have a look at dells page to see if its been updated,
Anyway downloaded the latest version installed it coupled up my baby and all was fine synced music, pics, outlook contacts and the rest, so it seems to be OK now .
Give it a try

lufc said:
Anyway downloaded the latest version installed it coupled up my baby and all was fine synced music, pics, outlook contacts and the rest, so it seems to be OK now .
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Now I'm confused.
Are you referring to the Nero software that Dell are using with FroYo, rather than the discontinued Dell PC Suite? If so, I understood that it only syncs Contacts from Microsoft Outlook (not least because Dell have removed the Task and Notes applications from 2.2 that they had provided with 2.1).
When you say "all the rest", do you mean that it syncs Calendar, Tasks and Notes from Outlook? If so, what applications does it use on the phone to access Tasks and Notes?

Philip said:
Now I'm confused.
Are you referring to the Nero software that Dell are using with FroYo, rather than the discontinued Dell PC Suite? If so, I understood that it only syncs Contacts from Microsoft Outlook (not least because Dell have removed the Task and Notes applications from 2.2 that they had provided with 2.1).
When you say "all the rest", do you mean that it syncs Calendar, Tasks and Notes from Outlook? If so, what applications does it use on the phone to access Tasks and Notes?
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You are right on that score philip just contacts, sorry for the confusion