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Using your HTC Wizard to dial out on a analog phone line or Tiscali DSL Phone

Hi guys,
I want to use my HTC Wizard to call out on the "normal" or DSL phone line when I am at home. This beacause all phone calls to all national non mobile numbers are free.
My PC is connected to the DSL Modem (ZYXEL P-2602HW-D1A) and with a modem connected to the phone out put of the modem and to the normal analog line.
Is there any one who has experience with this?

MartindH said:
Hi guys,
I want to use my HTC Wizard to call out on the "normal" or DSL phone line when I am at home. This beacause all phone calls to all national non mobile numbers are free.
My PC is connected to the DSL Modem (ZYXEL P-2602HW-D1A) and with a modem connected to the phone out put of the modem and to the normal analog line.
Is there any one who has experience with this?
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The answer is likely to not be as easy as you expect, although it may not be that hard.
Your modem may or may not work, when you do voice over a modem the modem needs to know this and not demand a carrier tone and other things that signal a data connection. Some modems are known to work in this capacity others are known to work very poorly (lots of echo) and others are known to not work at all. The majority of modems are not known whether or not they will work at all.
In short the easiest way to accomplish this task is to send data from your phone VoIP to your PC. There are free clients out there such as sjphone from sjlabs.com. You will likely want a headset on your phone as most dont use the same speaker as a regular phone call but instead the speakerphone and echo cancelation doesnt work well (the remote side will hear echo without headphones).
Now that your phone is taken care of you need something on the other side. Here you have choices. If you have a compatible modem you can use that as an FXO card with software like asterisk.org and soon freeswitch.org. If you do not have a compatible card, or do not wish to run VoIP software on your PC you can get an ATA that has an FXO port and lets you route calls to/from it. Grandstream.com has some, the HT486 comes to mind. I believe the linksys pap2 will also do this. Ebay may be your friend in locating a fairly cheap one, although they arent that expensive - and you are doing this to save money so depending on the number of calls you make it may pay for itself soon
Once you have this set up, you can actually choose to call people via your mobile plan or landline or even an internet based telephone company. Depending on how well you configure everything, you could in theory have it use all of those things, and you can even route calls from those services to your phone (ie get phone numers all over the world and answer them on your mda when you have internet).
All your mda needs is wifi/usb/gprs. And for those providers that block VoIP on gprs shame on you (and they generally dont block vpn traffic or even know what the contents of that are

Port restricted Cone NAT
Thanks for your support.
The WIFI way with a direct connetion to my Modem will do for now, but I have got the following problem there.
The error that is displayed is the following:
NAT/Firewall: Port Restricted Cone NAT
The settings which I have entered are the same as in my Modem:
Zyxel: P-2602HW-D1A
Provider Tiscali
Anybody who knows how to solve this or who has experience with VOIP provided by Tiscali or other ISP using your HTC Wizard

ms voip support working?

hi,
i can't seem to get it working. people can hear me, but i can't hear them
Anyone got this working?
Thx

it should work, i have not tested it but it should work, the files and registry entryes are taken from a hermes rom for which i am sure that it work and it is the same core and build as ours

i was able to launch the setup earlier... and decided to do it later on..
but when i tried after 2 days ... it just crashed...
did uninstall... softrest... install.. routine few times... and gave up.

I successfully connected to my Hungarian Voip provider (megafone) but no sound at all. Dialing is okay, but I cannot hear it ringing out, cannot hear the other party, they can't hear me. However the connection is there and the connected seconds are charged.
GSM phone, Skype and Fring are working well, only the Ms Voip has problems.

My settings look like this. The 'Dial plan' tab is empty. Is this normal?

Also noted that it didn't terminate the call normally as I pressed the red button, it kept charging on for 15 minutes of talk...

well now i think that something is missing, maybe audio encoders and decoders on which VoIP is dependant, i will look into this and will keep you posted

My tip is also codec-related.

Is it normal that via ActiveSync the voip says No Service? With WiFi it says Available, I think it should also with ActiveSync.

are there any news?

I don't have an issue with VOIP working on my SX66. In fact, I was surprised by how easy it was to get going.
-Chris

You were lucky that your provider uses the same codec as this WM6 build does.

Since I don't use something like Vonage, or Comcast VOIP, I just went out and found a VOIP provider online. VOIPCheap.com works great with this build.
-Chris

Many of us prefer a local VoIP provider though.

VoIP Incoming RTP
Some additional info on the problem with receiving audio. (same is on my phone). I checked which codec this SIP stack negotiates.
Apparently, out of all available, MS VoIP settles either on PCMA or PCMU depending on the other end availability, and refuses other most common ones.
Well, it encodes and sends RTP which I receive on other non wm6 phones and I am sure it receives RTP, and may even decode it, but by the look of it, not a squick is sent to the hardware/speaker.
Cheers
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Sorted by installing Voip support from (ftp://xda:[email protected]/WM6VoIP.CAB)
and installing on top of the existing (from voip.cab - can't remember the source).
Although the dialplan tab is still blank (requires ipdialplan.xml, I guess) but the SIP settings are remain intact after this 'patch'.
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I've just tested the MS voip with 3 different VOIP providers, and I also have the "sound" problem with it.
When I use an other VOIP application (like SJphone) all is working fine, so it must be a codec problem that is missing.

I just looked at VOIPCheap.com website. It's sounds interesting. Never tried VOIP from BA. Can someone tell me what i need to do to use VOIPCheap.com on BA to make VOID calls apart from creating an account with VOIPCheap.com? Thanks guys.

Never Mind. Please ignore my last msg. I think i got the answer on there website in FAqs. I'll create the account and see how good it is.
Anyone have any good/bad feedback for VOIPCheap.com service?
Thanks.

There are a lot of threads for VoIP problems in the forums many issues are solved there, i suggest al of the VoIP users to search and read there. Also i understood that difrend providers use difrend encoding-decoding so thats why it works for some and not for everybody

did someone find a fix for the muted audio issue?
i've read many threads about many voip issues on the other forums available here, but it seems like the small amount of ppl who had this problem was left quite alone..
I'm trying to place calls via my asterisk 1.4 box.
thanks

Internet calling (VoIP) on the mogul works, but...

I was able to get Internet Calling (integrated VoIP) on the mogul working with the Gizmo VoIP service. The big problem is that the volume is so low it is pretty much unusable. I followed all of the guides here on xda and came up with the same issue as everyone else; i could not get internet calling to show up on the today screen and i did not have any of the internet options under the phone settings. What solved it for me was Schap's Setup VoIP tool version .3. This tools gives us the ability to now set the items that us Mogul users do not have available under the phone settings.
In a nut shell:
1) install WM6VoIP.CAB then reboot
2) install SetupVoIP_v0.3.cab (Schap's VoIP tool)
3) open Schap's config tool and set:
a) all of your SIP settings.​b) Set outgoing calls using VoIP to Whenever available.​c) enable VoIP over 3G.​
Now when you go to your phone dialer it should now show the name of your VoIP service at the top rather than your carrier (Sprint PCS in my case). You will have to force your internet to connect first (i use PIE to start my internet connections up, not sure of a better way to do this.) Now you will be able to make and receive VoIP calls. I have verified this by calling another phone and seeing that the caller ID is from my VoIP. I have also been able to stay on a call and browse the web at the same time (not normally possible on sprint). The 1X icon never appears over my Evo icon while on the phone now. Interestingly enough i could not get this to work over WiFi, it would only work on Evdo.
This integrated VoIP is so seamless that it pains me to use another app just because of this volume issue. I have tried:
Skype. Works great, but not with Gizmo.
SJPhone. Works with Gizmo, but is VERY choppy.
GoSip. Works great with Gizmo, but is very big and slows the phone down.
Fring. Works great with Gizmo and the mem usage is great, but has no dial pad and that pretty much makes the app useless.
Wengo. Works great with Gizmo. Mem usage is on the big side, but is manageable. Seems to be the best for me so far.
I have tried many others that either work as dial out only or only work with their makers SIP service.
Any other ideas or thoughts?
Thanks,
JD

You got the mic working using Fring ? I always got one way audio
What version of WM6VoIP.CAB did you use ?

The mic did work for me on fring. However, the instant that i realized that i didn't have a dialpad i removed it. I use VoIP mostly for conference calls and i need to be able to enter in conference room passwords.
How would i be able to tell what version of WM6VoIP.CAB i am using? I cannot find version information anywhere.
JD

You are lucky with the Fring since there is many complaints from Mogul owners that Mic doesn't work
What version did you use ?
When I was searching for the WM6VoIP.CAB there was indication that there is some new version but the link was dead when I tried to download
Can you please post it here?

When i tried Fring it was a few months ago and i don't remember the version number. I do remember using my bluetooth headset for SIP rather than the internal mic and speaker. I just tried the newest version of fring (downloaded last night) and my internal mic and bluetooth headset now do not work for SIP. Interesting.
For WM6VoIP.cab I searched here on XDA and downloaded the first link i found. Here is the one that i used, not sure if there is a newer version? http://218.93.115.138/d900/patch/WM6VoIP.CAB
JD

That's the same I'm using ... I did read some article about this couple weeks ago ( can't find it) where there was reference and non working link to new version of this file.
Did you read this post ? :
http://www.eten-users.eu/lofiversion/index.php/t8854.html
There is reference to switch.cab ( can't find link to download it )

switch.cab
Try this:
http://www.etenblog.com/downloads/Software/switch.cab

I did, it did install ok but it doesn't work
Thanks

well i tried the configuration and everything, but the thing is that when i try to call out it says dialing then it says call ended, like it doesn't even ring. I entered the correct settings and everything.

I did everything and it DOES NOT show on my Today screen, I see the item "Internet Calling" checked in the today screen options. Any ideas?

Telus phone right ?
I if so that's normal with the Telus ROM

lifeisfun said:
Telus phone right ?
I if so that's normal with the Telus ROM
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No, I have a Sprint Mogul with the "unofficial" leaked GPS rom. Anyone else know how to fix this? I really need this to work, thanks a lot.

It will not show on your today screen. When you go to your dialpad, the name of your VOIP provider should be listed at the top rather than sprint. If it shows that then you should be good to go.
JD

When you make a call, does the sound come through the earpiece or the speakerphone?

How can I have the sound coming from the speaker on the screen side instead of the back speaker?
Thanks!

I'm afraid you can't

[CLOSED/G2] G2 support uma calling!

I'm kinda glad T_Mobile finally took the step to made it official [sort of]
The idea is that T-mobile will introduce UMA-Wifi calling app which can be installed on the phone and will allow users to switch.
This is great news for people who live under low reception area and can use their homo wifi routers to make calls at no extra cost!
P.S. The second picture in the post looks like the G2 rom... so we're good fellas!
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/09/is-i...y-coming-to-the-android-platform-on-t-mobile/

Its not true uma though. Its more like skype. Still good news for novice android users and those with poor home reception.

Prefacing this with I have no idea how UMA really works and this may be something impossible to do, but if there's the capability to make regular calls over wifi, would it be possible to combine that with google voice and somehow not use your minutes in some way or use google voice like skype but using your own handset?

mikeybot said:
Prefacing this with I have no idea how UMA really works and this may be something impossible to do, but if there's the capability to make regular calls over wifi, would it be possible to combine that with google voice and somehow not use your minutes in some way or use google voice like skype but using your own handset?
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That CAN be done already, as long as its over a data line (ie, wifi, 3g, HSPA+)
I believe skype is already capable of placing calls over wifi, 3G. [Correct me if i'm wrong]
But you can also use stand alone SIP Apps like 3CX or NetDial and configure them to you VOIP provider settings and make calls...
www.voipbuster.com is a really good, FREE/CHEAP VOIP provider

yes you can but in general the connection is not very good. Just my experience though

One of the difficulties in making a UMTS/wifi switchover is the lag time between the loss of one and gaining the other. Typically, going from UMTS --> wifi will work OK since it will typically ensure that the wifi is good before actually disconnecting the UMTS. The other way though, depends on the wifi signal FAILING, and then establishing the UMTS connection as a fallback.
If the network switch overlap could be extended in both directions, especially to start to initiate UMTS connection BEFORE the wifi signal vanishes (i.e., when the signal strength drops to 1-bar), then it would be fairly trivial to set up a PBX and SIP client to automatically follow the network, including seamless switchovers.
The days of regular phone service are already numbered. All you really need on your phone is a DATA plan -- SIP service tends to be less expensive and just as robust as any other kind of voice service. And it certainly kills everything else in terms of FLEXIBILITY.

telephony hardware

Does it exist on tis tab?
how about on
http://www.sierrawireless.com/Newsr...Wireless_4G_LTE_Mobile_Broadband_Network.aspx
which may be the card going in the xoom?
Lastly if the hardware exists on an lte device, should it be possible to make calls work by switching the sim card with a lte phone sim?

I think that if you would like to place phone calls with your Xoom using the cell radio its possible to find a way. Verizon might not be happy with it.
However, Its the hard way to place calls.
Sigh up with a VoIP provider, and use a SIP Client.
I like a provider named Vitelity. You can port your number to them if you would like. They are very inexpensive, and very reliable. (or use Skype, or anyone else.)
Then, use a SIP dialer and a Bluetooth headset on your Xoom. I am doing just that using Verizon 3g and it works great.

I have signed up for skype and have a number, but skype seems to have no interest in real BT support, neither does Google. If I could force Skype to use the mic on a BT< I could likely live with it, but AFAIK that is not possible.

This all be in another forum, however I am using CSIPSimple and it supports my plantronic BT voyager 510, (on Honeycomb)
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/voyager-510&skuId=sku4610016
And, CSIPSimple opens the default Android Dialer (Which is in Honeycomb) to send and receive calls.

Would you mind testing it to be sure?
If so, place a call, leave your pad and walk like 15 feet and see if you are still heard.
Please don't be offended, I have just had WAY to many people say the same thing as you, only to find out A2DP let them hear, and they were using the tab mic without knowing it.

Hmmm.. I will check later tonight. That is a good question.

Thanks young... anyone else use csip too?

The hardware is capable, the problem is with the provisioning. Verizon adds feature codes to block voice and SMS on their tablet data plans.

what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?

Morkai Almandragon said:
what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
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There is no sim to switch.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

So then? Any tablet outside of the us ( or Verizon) is able
To standard phonecalls?
I'm in the uk and I was planning to buy the 3g version but if I still have to carry a phone to txt or call, i'll choose the WiFi one, save 200 bucks, and tether with my nexus when needed although I'm not very happy with the idea of carrying multiple devices...
Btw , 3g version has been priced in.....600 pounds! What are they playing at? If I finally choose wifionly I'll buy for sure in the US, screw carphone and pcworld..
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

I think you are asking a question that no one can answer at the moment.
LTE does use a SIM card, but, NO devices are currently available on Verizon's LTE network yet, so no one knows what happens if you switch LTE SIM cards between devices.
I also think that LTE devices use a VoIP type of voice connection, something different then how voice is done on CDMA. This new type of connection allows data and Voice to operate at the same time. This functionality, this Software dialer stack would need to be included in Honeycomb, which is not a phone Android distribution.

Young dud you test the bluetooth mic with csip?

Yes. I I have found is that I do have two way audio, all on the Bluetooth headset using csip, I walked around my house, leaving the Xoom several rooms away.
While in WiFi, Bluetooth audio was sketchy at best. For most calls, I could not get the headset in engage for the call. While in the call I would press Bluetooth on the dialer, and nothing would happen, or the audio would cut in and out, before engaging, or a few times I would have to press 'Speaker", then Bluetooth, then Speaker again before it would engage. When it would engage in WiFi I did have two way audio.
While in 3G, with WiFi Off, the connection with Bluetooth was perfect every time. No issues. The call call quality overall was a bit less then with WiFi, however Bluetooth worked correctly.
UPDATE: I just had a bad Bluetooth connection issue on 3G. So, it is spotty. It might be because CSip uses the default Android dialer which might be incomplete in some way on Honeycomb.
I should try another SIP app. But Bluetooth does have two way audio when I can get it to connect.