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I have installed a (legitimate since you ask) copy of tomtom NAVIGATOR 6 onto my MDA Vario II. The 4+ Mb programme resides in main memory and the Western_Europe map and everything else is on the 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD card. I have a Fuzion SiRF starIII bluetooth GPS receiver. tomtom's US website says the hardware and software are compatible, the UK site does not. The programme runs very slowly (it's not smooth as I have seen demonstrated on a Mio, which had a 312Mhz processor, but is stilted). Sometimes the machine locks up and I have to press the 'OK' button. When browsing the map, the machine struggles to process the picture. I ensure that there are no running programmes. What is the cause, please? Could it be that the hardware and software are incompatible?
just try to flash aku 3.3 to your vario. it will make ur phone work smooth and will not hang at all. then u will be able to run tomtom 6 perfectly
Rather than risk aku 3.3 issues I suggest you are probably right and there is soe sort of hardware issue. I have navigator 6 and TOMTOM BT receiver and hav absolutely no issues at all
I use TT6 on a daily basis and I can say that under WM5 AKU2.3 it used to hang very often when putting post code. I ran ok. After flashing AKU3.3 it works flawlessly. The same with WM6. Now it also seems to run a little bit faster.
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
silvino said:
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
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Welcome, but you are in the wrong place my friend. This is the HTC Hermes forum. This site is primarily for HTC devices. However here is Tomtom 6 for PPC phones (official tomtom site):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Mike
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
Yostin said:
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
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yep this is the same on mine, disabled all but a few POIs and no or very rare freezes. if it does freeze up hit the hangup button and relaunch.
there was some hope with the Version 7 tomtom out soon that there would be a fix for the problem.
Acuum2 said:
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
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My Hermes is running with AKU 3.3 and my TomTom is 6.0.30
ok. i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on.
at least you will loose the anoying mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)
ok well the results your described i saw with the first tomtom 6 i used, im assumeing it was on 6.0.00 but i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but
it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on. I'm using that this week by mistake since my last hard reset but its been stable for me.
at least you will loose the anoying 6.0.30 mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)
What GPS settings do I have to use to get TomTom 6 or Route66 working?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
(T-Mobile Ameo)
pgerr said:
What GPS settings do I have to use to get TomTom 6 or Route66 working?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
(T-Mobile Ameo)
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set it to COM 5, and set to other bluetooth device.
gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.
hx4700spain said:
gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.
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i am going out to test the GPS now, will post later
please
gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.
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please
gps is fast?
whichever minutes in having the first signal?
thank you.
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3 mins on the first signal setup
ok thank you.
this is with tomtom or igo ?
hx4700spain said:
ok thank you.
this is with tomtom or igo ?
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this is with TomTom
in cold it takes three minutes?
but in hot?
hx4700spain said:
in cold it takes three minutes?
but in hot?
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That was in hot by the way, didn't try cold, should be quicker than 3 mins
in hot it is less time not than in cold that gps needs but time to find satellite for the first time not?
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in hot it is less time not than in cold that gps needs but time to find satellite for the first time not?
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sorry, when you say cold and hot, what do you mean?
in cold it means that it is the first time that takes satellite after a soft reset and in hot second or third time that takes satellite. how long in cold and hot?
thank you.
hx4700spain said:
in cold it means that it is the first time that takes satellite after a soft reset and in hot second or third time that takes satellite. how long in cold and hot?
thank you.
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oh, ok, so first time is about 3 mins, after is about 2 mins, but i must say i only tested once. And i can't test anymore now because my mini-sd is broken!!!! Can not format it in anyway, so until my new-mini sd comes, i won't be able to use TomTom, will let you guys know when i have more info.
Anyway, i also need to say, from the test i did, the signal doesn't seems very stable, it keep dropping out and reconnect it again....
time
i use totom 6.030 and I-go 2006 with update from jan 2007
in max 1-2 min location is fixed...
i install ALL cards on microdrive NOT in sd card
i have internal with this microsoft gps programm port 4 routed to port5 ..
regards
I have iGo 2006 without 2007 updates. In cold start it takes a lot of time, abt 2 min on Ameo. In my opinion, more then with HTC Tytn or Asus P525. I didn't measure it with a watch. And also because the GPS antenna is internal in Ameo it looks like the signal is less stable then when you have a GPS device connected to a phone via bluetooth.
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I have iGo 2006 without 2007 updates. In cold start it takes a lot of time, abt 2 min on Ameo. In my opinion, more then with HTC Tytn or Asus P525. I didn't measure it with a watch. And also because the GPS antenna is internal in Ameo it looks like the signal is less stable then when you have a GPS device connected to a phone via bluetooth.
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I tend to agree with you...I'm using Advantage with iGo2007 and have the same feeling...the internal GPS is not quite stable and it's dramatically worse than used with Trinity. When I'm in desperate need for current location I prefer to use an external BT GPS than Athena's internal one.
It seems that it does not react properly, since the connetion seems to be OK.
Just a side note: the GPS receiver seems to be placed on the side bearing the HTC logo, not on the side with the Opera hardware button... I tried to use Tomtom in my car with the PDA upright (joystick at the bottom) and it didn't manage to get a fix... When I turn the PDA in landscape mode, with the HTC logo on the top, it works a lot better (cold fix in the car after 1 or two minutes).
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I tend to agree with you...I'm using Advantage with iGo2007 and have the same feeling...the internal GPS is not quite stable and it's dramatically worse than used with Trinity. When I'm in desperate need for current location I prefer to use an external BT GPS than Athena's internal one.
It seems that it does not react properly, since the connetion seems to be OK.
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I don't find this. I have a TomTom mkII bluetooth as well as the Ameo. I find that the Ameo is often quicker to get a fix. TomTOm navigator 6 I find the slowest. friends tell me that Igo (with the 2007 maps) is much quicker at getting a fix.
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I don't find this. I have a TomTom mkII bluetooth as well as the Ameo. I find that the Ameo is often quicker to get a fix. TomTOm navigator 6 I find the slowest. friends tell me that Igo (with the 2007 maps) is much quicker at getting a fix.
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I find this hard to believe: I think the fix is made (or not) by the GPS chip itself, which gives the current position to the nav software every second. The time to fix should not depend on the software.
Hi there,
i am running tt7 on my Asus P535 with WM 6.
I have this problem:
TomTom is always about 200 meters behind my actual position. I think this is so because of an not well resolution. Only if I drive very slow (about 30 km/h) tomtom shows my position correct.
I tried all versions. Repack 3 qvga, qvga... 7.450,.. 7.541...but each version came up with the same result.
Is there a possibility to stop this annoying lag ? Or do I have to cope with it. Did anyone else notice this , also?
With TT 6 (6.032) this problem never appeared.
If you're using a bluetooth reciever it sounds like it hasn't got many channels. More channels better reception - more accurate.
If the phone has gps built in then check the position of the phone in the car. It needs a clear signal to work properly. under the windscreen is best, not on the seat beside you.
Otherwise it sounds like memory problem. Other apps using ram and limiting how much the gps program can use. though most of the time when I had that problem it just kept jumping all over the place.
You have to slow down, you're driving too fast
You can also try turning off points of interest and any info you don't need. Even street names can make it laggy.
uran235 said:
Hi there,
i am running tt7 on my Asus P535 with WM 6.
I have this problem:
TomTom is always about 200 meters behind my actual position. I think this is so because of an not well resolution. Only if I drive very slow (about 30 km/h) tomtom shows my position correct.
I tried all versions. Repack 3 qvga, qvga... 7.450,.. 7.541...but each version came up with the same result.
Is there a possibility to stop this annoying lag ? Or do I have to cope with it. Did anyone else notice this , also?
With TT 6 (6.032) this problem never appeared.
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I don't think it's Tomtom's versions problem... it's the GPS signals likely
If you don't get a good signals or number of Sats yo will be far from your real position.
Consider if there are alot of obstacles which would cause or interfere with the signals:
- Tall buidlings, trees, objects
- under ground car park, buidling
- Metals (depends)
- Raining and not clear sky
- Other devices or in a high EM
- GPS chips got faulty
- Firmware or memory that store calculate functions got problem
- Not enough numbers of Sats
- ...
Hi again,
I don't think it is an GPS Problem.
I have an built-in- GPS- Receiver and I get between 6-11 Satellites.
Another user (he has the Diamond) had this problem, also. But he took the wrong tt7- Version. After using the right one everything was okay.
But it also might be the processor of my P535 ? Might that also be possible?
oh, I got about 18- 20 MB of RAM free
uran235 said:
Hi again,
I don't think it is an GPS Problem.
I have an built-in- GPS- Receiver and I get between 6-11 Satellites.
Another user (he has the Diamond) had this problem, also. But he took the wrong tt7- Version. After using the right one everything was okay.
But it also might be the processor of my P535 ? Might that also be possible?
oh, I got about 18- 20 MB of RAM free
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Have you tried using iGo or other GPS apps and experienced similar lag ?
Even on my old Wizard TomTom7 runs without problems.
Have you tried it in another car, or outside your car? Maybe your front window has a special alloy to prevent sun emission. Know this problem of some of my friends, they have had this problem (Mostly on new VW,Audi,BMW i know this problem, maybe other cras have something similar).
Hello,
I tried many other GPS-Systems. Navigon, IGO, MIO,Garmin, tt 6. But this 100-200 m lag appears only with tt 7. And this was all in the same car.
I have no ideas anymore what this might cause this.
I know, my P 535 is not the latest one but it still has got a 520MHz Intel Xscale..
It is not the map, also. I tried 3 different tt 7 maps already..
uran235 said:
Hello,
I tried many other GPS-Systems. Navigon, IGO, MIO,Garmin, tt 6. But this 100-200 m lag appears only with tt 7. And this was all in the same car.
I have no ideas anymore what this might cause this.
I know, my P 535 is not the latest one but it still has got a 520MHz Intel Xscale..
It is not the map, also. I tried 3 different tt 7 maps already..
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I dont think changing car will make any difference . I used tt7 on p535 without any problem at all. but i like igo or garmin more
Do you have other GPS software like CheckPoint 3.0 ? Because Checkpoint failed to run correctly with my TomTom7 and Cruise.
Hello
I have the same problem with my nex Tomtom V7. i've got a Samsung Omnia
First I try it in walk, and my position is not correct
I try many times in a car and my position is not as exact than Tomtom V6
Well, weirred.
Maybe it is the ROM then.
I am still using WM 6 [CE OS 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1) and not "WM6.1_20748.1.4.0" ROM.
Another user just jold me that with his PPC (ASUS 636N) the same error occured.
uran235 said:
Well, weirred.
Maybe it is the ROM then.
I am still using WM 6 [CE OS 5.2.1236 (Build 17741.0.2.1) and not "WM6.1_20748.1.4.0" ROM.
Another user just jold me that with his PPC (ASUS 636N) the same error occured.
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As was mentioned above by snachez, I believe it's the amount of poi's you have showing on the screen while driving. I had the same problem with about 20 poi's showing. When I turned it down to about 4 poi's, the problem went away, and now it's SMOOTH as silk.
Hope this helps!
Sorry to chip in here. Seems like you all here uses GPS. I just bought a new PDA. MWg Zinc II with built in GPS. As I am living in Singapore, I would like to know is it possible to obtain igo Singapore map for free? GPS maps are very expensive and I would like to know where can I download it and use it as a full version without paying.
Hi, am I the only, who has unfunctional Igo8? Nobody have problem? I try patches, tips, AGPS, quickGPS and nothing, it fixes satellites and after second unfixed and it still repeats... Same with Igo2006, Igo 8.0.0 and 8.3.x... Can somebody help me? I never had this problems befor on Cruise and Diamond.
What GPS settings in IGO do you use? (port and baud rate)
Port 4 and no matter what speed, GPS is connected, but it is fixed after few seconds and starts cycling between fixed and unfixed with 0.5 second period... ROM is 1.40.405.3, I didn't see here anybody else with this rom
i use TT 7.910 and works great!
also try to use gps tuner (off road navigation) to try to have a fix... a see if is a compatibility error with iGo or else
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Port 4 and no matter what speed, GPS is connected, but it is fixed after few seconds and starts cycling between fixed and unfixed with 0.5 second period... ROM is 1.40.405.3, I didn't see here anybody else with this rom
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Try this cab it'll improve your GPS (faster fix, more stable/reliable).
bubu said:
i use TT 7.910 and works great!
also try to use gps tuner (off road navigation) to try to have a fix... a see if is a compatibility error with iGo or else
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hi, i've installaed also tt 7.910 but when i tourn tt navigation still back from some second after that the tt go ok..
you don't have any lag?
Hi!
I'm using the auto settings for the gps. Its on port 1.
Yes i have a lot of lag. On the highway i lost an exit. I was travelling at about 120kmh, and the gps had a lad of about 700 mtrs.
I already returned mine. waiting for a new batch to arrive. Hope it comes with a new rom.
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hello,
with igo2008, version 8.0.0.41506, the lag is roughly of 1,5 seconds (120 kms/H). Port 4., Caud baud 9600. With TomTom, version 7.45, lag is 1 second (minor than with igo2008). Measured to same speed.
I,m from spain, Valencia, but this would not have to influence.
Any another opinion?
Best GPS setting I found so far
Guys, the best setting for GPS I found so far:
Go to registry, to path HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/HTC/SUPL AGPS
Set GPSMode to 1
Set EnableAGPS to 0
Do not change anything else. You can use CAB file jgeerts suggested, it should do exactly the same.
Set your GPS application to use COM4, Baud rate 4800bps and Type 1 (if your program supports this).
It will take longer time to get a fix (especially cold start), but it should be more stable and reliable.
About the unstable fix:
I also encountered that periodical fix / unfix. It usually happened only after cold start of GPS (it was not used for a few days). It helps to leave it on for some time and wait, after a few minutes periodical unfixing was gone. Maybe it sounds crappy, but I tried Artemis along and during that time it did not get ANY fix .
Thanx, but still no stable fix... I try cab, registry settings and still periodical unfixing. Often helps to disable gps, change speed and then in 90% it is fixed. Did you install Igo or only copy it to SD card, like me? Maybe I have to try Tomtom or wait for next ROM (which I can adapt for me).
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Thanx, but still no stable fix... I try cab, registry settings and still periodical unfixing. Often helps to disable gps, change speed and then in 90% it is fixed. Did you install Igo or only copy it to SD card, like me? Maybe I have to try Tomtom or wait for next ROM (which I can adapt for me).
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I have tested it in two cars with TomTom v7.9, one car without special windows and one with special windows. on the first one I had no problems at all (no lag, stable fix) but on the other one I had a lot of lag and the fix is very unstable (periodical unfixing). I also have the same results if I'm using a real TomTom One device in these cars.
Are you using it in a car with special windows? If that's the case don't expect your Jade to work in it, the builtin GPS is not that sensitive!
Maybe I didn't say that fully exact, I have no problem with signal from satellites, I have about 12 satellites visible, from 4 to 10 active, fix about 15 to 60 seconds, but immediately after fix device get unfixed and it repeats forever... No matter how many satellites visible and active. I have to disconnect GPS, change speed of COM4 port and connect again. Often it helps, sometimes not.
iGO 8 on WIndows Mobile
HAve a dead GPS? Unlocked VoIP on WM 6.1?
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3067686&postcount=14
My jade has the same malfuntion too.
Gps has no more fix..
Till yesterday (around one month usage) all was fine..
Weird, This happened 12 hours after using Quick GPS funtion, downloading first time the sattelite Data.
Config. is ok ComPort 4 and boutrate is good enuf.
I am able to see three bars (three sattelite connection) in IGO8 GPS screen. But there is no red and yellow spots inside circle at upper left corner.
I wonder what is the relation with the voip etc.?
tom tom 7.45
i have tt 7.45 installed...it works ok but never has any sattelite bars at all - takes a while to fix ("poor gps reception) but then the planning etc goes well and TT works (no bars at all times). the lag is not there or very minimal.
xS
belgium
TomTom v7.45 -- Use version 7.9 instead !
gorila22 said:
i have tt 7.45 installed...it works ok but never has any sattelite bars at all - takes a while to fix ("poor gps reception) but then the planning etc goes well and TT works (no bars at all times). the lag is not there or very minimal.
xS
belgium
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Version 7.45:
No sattelite bars
Can not use the new V8 maps
Does not warn (sound) if you're driving to fast
Version 7.9:
Has sattelite bars
Can use the new v8 maps
Produce warnings (sound) if you're driving to fast
Lag has nothing to do with the version you're using. I've installed and tested them all (TomTom, Garmin) and all of them had the same issue (lag!).
When using it in a car with special glass, the lag was worse. Using it in a car without special glass the lag was minimal and not really a problem.
No GPS Fix - Solution !
The issue occurs when you have not used the GPS for a long (more than a week) time. I also experienced the issue.
It seems that disabling AGPS caused the issue. So I made a small modification to the GPS settings (registry values) and the problem is solved.
I did the test with TomTom v7.9 and the GPS seems to work fine (no lag when used in a car with no special glas).
In attachment you'll find a cab to do the registry changes.
You need to do a soft reset after installing the cab and you also need to run QuickGPS prior (or at least once every 6 days) to run any navigation software.
I have tested this CAB and still the same problem that Alekss_UH, it fix and unfix signal GPS each second aprox. in my Jade, in TT 7.9 ang IGO 8.3 same problem....
QTEQ said:
I have tested this CAB and still the same problem that Alekss_UH, it fix and unfix signal GPS each second aprox. in my Jade, in TT 7.9 ang IGO 8.3 same problem....
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Ths to jgeerts,
The same here.. tested.. but no use..
In outdoor, even some hours does not help..
If AGPS is on it is impossible to get fix..
The only way AGPS must be off, even so, 10 hours later refixing at the same place takes more than 10 minutes..
It is no concern w/ navsofts. I have four major navsofts installed, all have the same trouble..
It is not reliable..
is there any way to obtain support and sp from HTC ??
I have been 2 days with this GPS fix/unfix issue, and I think now it can be a HTC JADE / 3G ROM problem, besides several people is reporting same problem...
Visiting htc.com support:
HTC Touch 3G - English ROM for Middle East
HTC Touch 3G full English ROM is now available for download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
Date: 2008-12-15 Category: ROM Upgrade
but not valid for all models or languages.
Hi,
This thread might be ELF specific related as on other devices the problem with the same GPS receivers is not happening!
I own 2 Elf's one running plain original rom and one running Touch Surface and 2 different Bluetooth GPS receivers one is an Adapt AD850 and an el cheapo one GPS20C orso both of them are using passkey's of 4 digits.
I have now for an huge time problems with TomTom connecting to the GPS. It connects sometimes but looses the connection direct after an few seconds. Then it takes ages to get an reconnection or sometimes it won't connect even. But when it has an connection it seems to work fine and i can navigate for hours.
If i switch off orso and want to reconnect the same problems but sometimes it connect directly and works perfect.
When i have connection problems some things might seem to help to get an connection: Switch GPS off and on, Setup in TomTom the GPS again, Disable and enable Bluetooth.
I have tried to pair different times with the GPS but this makes no difference and it also make no difference which GPS i use or wich Elf i use.
The most strange in the whole story is that i previously had an GPS that needed no pass key for pairing and never had these problems. Also the TomTom version makes no differens. Offcourse i tried on one elf various roms and radio versions but this makes no difference.
Oh well maybe santa is bringing me an real navi system
Thanx,
Jerome
This may be obvious but its worth me saying - have you got the phone enabled?
Reason is I often turn my phone off and use my Touch as a mp3 player / video etc and when i fire up the tomtom and GPS reciever if the phone is in an off state then totmtom never gets a proper connection. I spent ages trying to figure out why it only worked sometimes and the realised it was due to the phone connection. Why tomtom needs the phone on I dont know but it wont work otherwise.
Sorry double posted
scorpion66 said:
This may be obvious but its worth me saying - have you got the phone enabled?
Reason is I often turn my phone off and use my Touch as a mp3 player / video etc and when i fire up the tomtom and GPS reciever if the phone is in an off state then totmtom never gets a proper connection. I spent ages trying to figure out why it only worked sometimes and the realised it was due to the phone connection. Why tomtom needs the phone on I dont know but it wont work otherwise.
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Ok will try this later and will report back here.
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Ok will try this later and will report back here.
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Well no solution .. still drops GPS connections and take ages before getting an connection.
Have overclocked the Elf to 273 Mhz now and seems an bit more stable so might be an TomTom Issue with high cpu usage ?