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hello all
it costs around $900 here and it will cost half that unlocked from t-mobile on the 24th. is there anything i need to worry about before ordering it for a friend from the states and using it here (Saudi Arabia). we use 2100mhz+900mhz for our 3G band so it should work fine here
anything else i need to worry about before i order it?
i dont think it'll work on saudi 3g, Tmobile uses 1700/2100, not 900. you need both bands to work
are you sure about the two bands thing
i had a t-mobile HTC G1 and 3G worked fine
that's odd, because phones that only share the 2100 band do not work on Tmobile. Perhaps its different the other way around.
the 3g of the g1 (1700/2100) and the Nexus1 (900/1700/2100) both work on our STC/mobily network. i assume the US-HD2 will be the same but i could be wrong cant anybody else confirm. i cant possibly be the only here intrested taking advantage of the US super cheap price
Well, you are not alone but I don't think anybody can confirm one way or another with 100% accuracy. I for one will buy it and then try to use it in Europe (i.e. 2100 MHz UMTS). Like you I've noticed that G1 has exactly the same specs for the radio. It also makes sense that HTC and T-mobile would like to support international roaming. All being said, there is always a chance that things are different this time. I tried to contact both HTC and T-mobile and I received contradictory answers. The only way to be sure is to try it or wait for somebody to report real-world use cases
anyone managed to test this yet?
I have already decided that this is the best replacement phone for my ageing P3600, but have a question for anyone who may already be using one on Australia's Telstra Next-G service...
Some news reports last month suggested that Telstra would be a launch partner for the device with HTC in Australia, but as yet there is no word from them officially about it. This would suggest that maybe they are in the process of tweaking (ie. bastardising) the UI with all the usual Telstra bloatware and just haven't got it finished yet. However, there are now no shortage of people selling them unlocked on Fleabay. Only problem is that some are careful to state that the device "may not be compatible with Telstra's Next-G network (HSDPA 850)"?!?
As far as I know Next-G is just Telstra's way of sexing up 3.5G. So is this just sellers trying to cover themselves or is there a real likeliness that the HD mini may actually need tweaking to work properly on that service?
OK - I have found out some info for those who may also be wondering...
Telstra modify all phones they sell in Australia to operate on HSPDA 850 instead of HSPDA 900. So no - that means an imported phone WILL NOT work on Telstra's Next-G service! In fact HTC on their own website show all phones available through Telstra as HSPDA 850, not HSPDA 900.
I purchased the HD Mini/Photon with Win 6.5 in the US 2 weeks ago and it's working fine! The phone was unlocked and listed as quad band..
So, I'm in Hong Kong for a mo. and looking for a Smartphone that can sync with my Outlook (mainly contact, cal, and to-dos). I was gonna get the HD mini but after I did some research, it doesn't seems to support 3G in the state. I'm with AT&T right now. Has anyone heard anything about it?
Thanks a lot!
I asked a similar question a month or so back and ended up talking to myself. We have the same problem with Telstra in Australia - need to use HSDPA 850 like in the US.
The current crop of HD Minis are only HSDPA 900/2100 which works everywhere else (and in Australia on other networks). I believe Telstra in Australia are working on tweaking a local release version here which will be HSDPA 850 but they are cagey about a release date. You may be able to pick up one of them (at an exorbitant price) and use it in the States when they become available.
I have also seen threads where people were asking if other phones that have been blocked from using HSDPA 850 because of Qualcomm's US patent infringement ruling can be opened up to use all available HSDPA frequencies via firmware. There seems to be some haziness over whether the restriction is hardware or firmware related.
If anyone has knowledge of this in relation to the HD Mini that would be appreciated...
Hi!, Do you have any news on this??? thanks!
There are a couple of threads around at the moment that are eluding to a 850 MHz version of the Galaxy S. I'm currently using an original UK I9000 (900/2100 MHz) and am sick of the terrible service of 900 MHz carriers in Australia.
As such, when people start getting their hands on 850 MHz unlocked Galaxy S would they mind listing the following information.
- Reseller / Carrier (if they sell outright)
- Reseller / Carrier Shipping Destinations
- Price
- Firmware Version
- Locked / Unlocked
Semi-related, I contacted HTC Australia a couple of times when I was considering purchasing the Desire. HTC confirmed with me that all versions of the Desire are absolutely identical in terms of hardware. This confirmed the research I had performed that the HTC's/Nexus' radio chip has the ability to support both 850/900 MHz (not necessarily simultaneously). So it is definitely the case that flashing firmware onto your phone can convert a 900 MHz phone to a 850 MHz phone or vice versa. However, the firmware that needs to be flashed probably isn't directly flashable using standard android tools. You probably require physical access to the radio frequency chip to flash firmware onto the chip as well as corresponding firmware onto the phone. Where I'm going with all this is...
If we have any electronically inclined people on these forums, on top of the above information I would love to know if someone is willing to investigate whether it is possible to dump radio chip firmware from their 850 MHz device.
EDIT: I'll include the list of phones below.
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- Bell Store (full price, non-customer)
- Medicine Hat, Ab, Canada
- $499.99+ tax
- 2.1update1 firmware
- I9000UGJG9 baseband
- Locked
I have been having a hell of a time finding anywhere that will unlock these. I am with rogers and i want to unlock it to use with them.
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NOTE: The online store appears to only sell to customers so you definitely have to live in Canada in order to get the phone shipped to you.
check page 2 out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745476&page=2
New Zealand your neightbourd carries the 850 version straight off Samsung website, hopefully it's unlocked, as i'm planning to get a 850 as well
AllGamer said:
check page 2 out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745476&page=2
New Zealand your neightbourd carries the 850 version straight off Samsung website, hopefully it's unlocked, as i'm planning to get a 850 as well
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Thanks. I did notice that thread however, it's actually why I started this one. I just figured it would be a good idea to have a central place for people to upload information. So we can compare between resellers and learn a bit about the devices from each reseller once people get them in their hands.
I'm looking forward to see results from the New Zealand model, and Bell.
I'll try to pick up one tomorrow from Bell and see if it works, and if we can unlock it.
@All Gamer: Are you going to have the phone unlocked? Even though you still in the Bell network.
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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sl8125 said:
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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inside the phone, after you take out the battery it's a GT-i9000M
firmware was something J?5 (forgot the middle letter)
the Euro/Asia version is GT-i9000
they actually finally revealed the updated page, 2 weeks ago it didn't have the Tech Spec yet
http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
oh wow! i just noticed something that i overlooked previously
check this out!!!
UMTS + GSM（850/900/1800/1900MHz）
http://www.samsung.com/hk/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
that is the Asia version of the GT-i9000 (same as Euro) but!!! it has both the 850+900+1900 band, but missing the 2100 band (which i don't really care as in America we don't have much use for the 2100, 90% of the network in USA/Canada is 850+1900)
i'm on Fido...
sl8125 said:
@All Gamer: Are you going to have the phone unlocked? Even though you still in the Bell network.
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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sl8125 said:
@All Gamer: Are you going to have the phone unlocked? Even though you still in the Bell network.
I be checking in everyday for this.
I also noticed that the model number for this unit is actually i9000. Is the CA and NZ model names are i9000 with quad band? or different like the us version of i897 and t959. Just wondering if they were different then the Euro Version.
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No idea about the CA model, but the NZ model is the same as the european just with the different radio bands but no ideas about when it will be released, I emailed samsung NZ asking about it but no response yet. All phones sold in NZ are unlocked even apples's iphone 4 which has an exclusive contract with vodafone here is sold unlocked.
interestingly enough the Asia version also has different radio than the NZ version, the NZ has 2100 band, but the Asia one doesn't in its place it keeps most of the lower bands
according to Wikipedia, seems like the only country that uses 2100 is Brazil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands
why would cell phones sold in Europe/NZ ship with that band?
dunno...
anyways @ AllGamer, where are you in canada?
i get decent 3g coverage in the GTA...unless i'm in a basement and some houses...
also how's your gps?
works fine for me everywhere i've tested... haven't had any issues with locking
longest i've taken i think is like 30 seconds for a lock outdoors
and that was from a cold start after i flashed a new rom
- Bell Store (full price, non-customer)
- Medicine Hat, Ab, Canada
- $499.99+ tax
- 2.1update1 firmware
- I9000UGJG9 baseband
- Locked
I have been having a hell of a time finding anywhere that will unlock these. I am with rogers and i want to unlock it to use with them.
AllGamer said:
interestingly enough the Asia version also has different radio than the NZ version, the NZ has 2100 band, but the Asia one doesn't in its place it keeps most of the lower bands
according to Wikipedia, seems like the only country that uses 2100 is Brazil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands
why would cell phones sold in Europe/NZ ship with that band?
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for 3G
2100 is used here in NZ by vodafone but 2100 is used in loads of countries mainly through europe I think.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
and best way to get detailed info on what a country uses is here
http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=NEW+ZEALAND
pizzachips said:
dunno...
anyways @ AllGamer, where are you in canada?
i get decent 3g coverage in the GTA...unless i'm in a basement and some houses...
also how's your gps?
works fine for me everywhere i've tested... haven't had any issues with locking
longest i've taken i think is like 30 seconds for a lock outdoors
and that was from a cold start after i flashed a new rom
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no problem as well, that's why i don't know why so many people are complaining about the GPS and "lag"
coming from Windows Mobile, this "lag" is nothing, GPS takes average 5~15 sec to pick up depending on weather, my old phone it takes 5 min to 1 hour to pick up
and waiting for the Windows software to load was always like an eternity, that's why iphone got so famous, because windows mobiles devices have always been slow, and i'm sure it will continue to be slow even with the same CPU, cuz my old phone was a 625Mhz CPU, and still didn't cut it, i OCed it to 650Mhz and it was not much better, but definitely noticeable... anyways.... the SGS i9000 is a dream to use.
GTA as well, 3G is mostly fine in most areas, but sometimes when you are down in the subway (the stations with open tunnels) it can't pick up 3G only G or Edge, and some parking lots
it is more a concern about traveling as, drive around Ontario/Quebec quite a bit, having the 850 band is a safety & bonus.
so if the new one from Bell works, i'll sell the UK i9000 version (sill in stock firmware but rooted)
thanks for the info man.
is that a demo one, or you purchased it already?
the past 2 days i've been trying to buy one to study it in detail, with no luck, as the sales guys didn't want to sell me their "demo" units
MKVFTW said:
- Bell Store (full price, non-customer)
- Medicine Hat, Ab, Canada
- $499.99+ tax
- 2.1update1 firmware
- I9000UGJG9 baseband
- Locked
I have been having a hell of a time finding anywhere that will unlock these. I am with rogers and i want to unlock it to use with them.
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Brazil will have a 850/1900/2100 3g version next month. It will also have digital TV.
Just one little issue: Price! It will cost US$ 1400.00
Dandarebr said:
Brazil will have a 850/1900/2100 3g version next month. It will also have digital TV.
Just one little issue: Price! It will cost US$ 1400.00
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So most people in Brasil will never be able to afford it then or do you have 20 year contracts over there with carriers?
TV... meh, I think most people just stream tv/movies now on demand..
Dandarebr said:
Brazil will have a 850/1900/2100 3g version next month. It will also have digital TV.
Just one little issue: Price! It will cost US$ 1400.00
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that is the Korea version, the Korean version comes with the DTV
but wow! at $1400 that's a bit too much, specially for people living in Brazil
AllGamer said:
that is the Korea version, the Korean version comes with the DTV
but wow! at $1400 that's a bit too much, specially for people living in Brazil
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I think you will find brasil is getting a version with tv also.
or are you just meaning they are getting the same model?
I still cant get over that price though.. seems insane....
Hi everyone. I'm buying a used, unlocked T-Mobile DVP 8GB soon, manufactured around January 2011 and is supposedly running Mango. I realize the phone is filled with issues, but they have supposedly been fixed by now. I'm just wondering if there are any specific issues I should check for before going ahead with the sale. Thanks!
No compass...yet
That's fine with me. I was thinking more along the line of things like checking all the keys to make sure they type the right letter (saw in another thread that x and z were switched for some reason), the device can be detected by a computer when connecting through USB, the phone doesn't reboot when you touch the screen, etc...
Also, what's the latest firmware/OS version for the DVP right now?
khara said:
That's fine with me. I was thinking more along the line of things like checking all the keys to make sure they type the right letter (saw in another thread that x and z were switched for some reason), the device can be detected by a computer when connecting through USB, the phone doesn't reboot when you touch the screen, etc...
Also, what's the latest firmware/OS version for the DVP right now?
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I've had absolutely no problems out of my DVP. 7.10.7720.68 is the latest OS version on mine. Yeah, the compass is a strange omission considering the hardware is there and was originally implemented but maps seems to orient just fine when I need directions. GPS is crazy fast.
Sounds good! Do you know the latest firmware version number as well?
khara said:
Sounds good! Do you know the latest firmware version number as well?
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latest DVP update is 7.10.8107 if the mobile is a factory unlocked version
if you have operator specific model like say T-Mobile / ATT then it would be 7.10.7720 or in some cases 7.10.7740
I too am considering a Dell Venue Pro. I am on Mobilicity in Toronto area and getting a decent Windows Phone that operates on AWS frequencies (1700/2100) is a challenge. T-Mobile phones are the only option but ordering a T-Mobile phone into Canada is a challenge too. It would be simply easier to drive to the NY State or Michigan and buy from a T-Mobile store and then unlock but I don't have 3-4 hours to burn. The Dell Venue Pro is easily available and is unlocked even ordering from Amazon.com.
If anyone has serious reservations please advise. Even better if someone is reading this and is on Mobilicity with this phone, I would appreciate any comments good or bad.
DVP !!
Hey,
M in India, and I got a DVP unlocked 16 gig, and I have no issues with it.
For me its the best looking phone out there
I dont care much about the specs(I mean if you compare the phones out there today, DVP lags behind), and the specs that a DVP has, is enough for me.
I have had only one stuck up, where I had to remove the battery to power it back on. That's it. Otherwise it has worked smoothly.
No other random reboot, no lag.
One thing, the camera is bad. You wont be able to take motion pictures. It will be blurry.
After Mango update, and making some changes in the settings, the still pics are gr8, but if you are trying to capture something that's moving, then m sorry, this aint the phone for you
I bought it in November 2011.
Current version:
OS version: 7.10.8107.79
My verdict: If you like classy, go for the DVP !!!
Excuse me for any typos or wrong grammar, English ain't my first language.
I picked it up yesterday, and so far I love it! There are a few things tripping me up, but nothing that i feel would push me over the age to abandon the platform like I did with Android. For one, it would be nice to be able to push enter to send an SMS using the keyboard, rather than having to touch the send icon on the screen. It would also be nice to be able to block certain numbers from calling.
Battery life does seem like an improvement over my old phone, though.
If you are purchasing new, in the US, I would question it. The phone is old hardware, at least 18 months old, I'd not more. Does not do 4g or wifi n. Simply put, why would you invest in an old device.
If you are buying used, or cheap with no contract, its worth it. But, buyer beware. A lot of used phones are showing up in a less than ideal condition, with damaged SD slots, or with the ability to reset missing. In these conditions they are virtually impossible to fix. Just be careful
That being said, these are good devices, well made and sound. I do not regret purchasing mine way back when. It was a most amazing Christmas present when received on December 21st, 2010.
Just to let you know I opted for a Nokia Lumia 710 !
Great deal here in Canada for 254.99 (from Rogers no contract) then $10 for unlock code. I know it's a completely different phone from DVP but figured I may as well get on with latest model phone for fairly cheap price. It will give me an idea if next (more expensive phone) should be the Nokia 900.
Thanks everyone for the mainly good comments about DVP.
We've discussed it for a bit here
Though if you're on rogers you actually have the choice of any of the lumias. (as rogers uses the same 3g bands as at&t and regardless prob has more choices)
TmoUSA users dont though, it's either the 710 or the VP or radar. (there's very little selection for AWS devices, that's almost literally every AWS capable wp7 device)
Yes... actually I am on Mobilicity which is same band as T-Mobile (1700/2100).
The Rogers Lumia 710 is a penta band phone so yes it works with Rogers 3 G bands and AT&T bands, and of course it works perfectly with Mobilicity ! (had to unlock it though)
Wonder if the T-Mobile version is penta band ? Also wonder why Rogers doesn't advertise this? I did some reading and found out it's penta band but if you read the specs from Rogers website it's only showing as quad-band. Quick trip to a Rogers store and reading the label shows it's penta band.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
Perhaps they dont want you purchasing one and turning it to another carrier?
For a carrier sold one the supported bands arnt really relevent, as long as it supports their own band obviously.
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The Rogers Lumia 710 is a penta band phone
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I doubt this, because I am not sure that the Qualcomm chipset actually supports pentaband UMTS.
It's more likely that it's quadband UMTS, which would still allow it cover all UMTS frequencies for both ATT and T-Mo. As in, maybe they left out 850 or 900.
Reports are the rogers one works on wind, which is AWS like tmoUSA
That would mean it's at very least: 850/1700/1900/2100, with the question as to if it supports 900.
As: 850/1900 is what rogers uses (like at&t)
and: 1700/2100 for aws (it's more work to have a 1700 device without 2100 then to leave it in)
From my understanding, it's merely what amps the manu decides to put in, and what they decide is mostly politics.
All htc devices are dual band unless they're forced to add more
Most samsung international devices are triband or higher. (though they dont generally use qualcomm chips)
All dell devices are triband or higher (with the exception of the EU Streak 5 as the AWS is uncommon)
I cant actually confirm it as I dont actually recall seeing a 5+ band phone using a qualcomm chip.
Worst case you can do APQxxxx + MDMxxxx and use an external modem that does support it, i believe the MDM9200 explicitly supports 5 bands + lte bands.
All devices with APQ8060 chips do this, as APQ chips are by definition chips without modems. There's a few phones that use this setup.
tl;dr the rogers varient should support at least 850/1700/1900/2100, since at least on at&t they use both 850 and 1900 (not unreasonable to assume rogers does the same)
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - For Canada
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
TheManii said:
Reports are the rogers one works on wind, which is AWS like tmoUSA
That would mean it's at very least: 850/1700/1900/2100, with the question as to if it supports 900.
As: 850/1900 is what rogers uses (like at&t)
and: 1700/2100 for aws (it's more work to have a 1700 device without 2100 then to leave it in)
From my understanding, it's merely what amps the manu decides to put in, and what they decide is mostly politics.
All htc devices are dual band unless they're forced to add more
Most samsung international devices are triband or higher. (though they dont generally use qualcomm chips)
All dell devices are triband or higher (with the exception of the EU Streak 5 as the AWS is uncommon)
I cant actually confirm it as I dont actually recall seeing a 5+ band phone using a qualcomm chip.
Worst case you can do APQxxxx + MDMxxxx and use an external modem that does support it, i believe the MDM9200 explicitly supports 5 bands + lte bands.
All devices with APQ8060 chips do this, as APQ chips are by definition chips without modems. There's a few phones that use this setup.
tl;dr the rogers varient should support at least 850/1700/1900/2100, since at least on at&t they use both 850 and 1900 (not unreasonable to assume rogers does the same)
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Can confirm the ATT version works on Rogers bands. Sold my unlocked DVP (ATT) to a rogers users. He reported it worked fine on 3G.