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Is the IMEI change only locally relevant on the XDA??

Hi all
I was wondering if anyone knew the answer to the above question.
to explain a bit better:
If i change the IMEI on my XDA it will obviously show up on the phone. What i want to know is will the network see the new of old IMEI. Ie whis is sent out by the phone.
Also:
From that i have found out the new service which blocks off stolen phones work that runs in the UK work by the IMEI code of the phone.
How do i make sure i don't change my IMEI to a number that is registered as stolen and in turn block my phone off.
Also again:
If at a later stage my phone does get blocked will changing it back to the original IMEI unblock it?
After all this i'm wondering if i should bother changing the IMEI. Although it would be nice to have my DOB there.

Oops I think I posted this in the rwong place!!
To Adminstrators:
Sorry
If it is in the wrong place could you move it?

The IMEI is stored in two places: one is displayed, the other is used to send to the network. The Manipulator changes both locations. The chance you'll change your IMEI to one of a stolen phone is small, very small. (It's six digits if you exclude the manufacturer part, so the chance is definitely bigger than getting hit by a meteorite, but still)
We included the IMEI change bit because:
a) We could
b) Privacy concerns: we'd like to live in a world where people can have multiple identities that are hard to connect, even if their opponents happen to run the country / telco.

WOW!!
Thanks for the great answer. As soon as it is possible to change my imei and unblock my phone i'll be doing it. (I have version 4.20 so it don't work yet).
Does anyone know of a web site where it list all the imei that are recognised as stolen or a number i can call in the UK to find out. The local police are useless and don't know anything.
A number to report a stolen phone would be useful as well cos my little sis got her knicked.

to all XDA developers (is their a change IMEI software USB)?

to all XDA developers (is their a change IMEI software USB) if yes where can i find it & if no is it going to be developed any soon? when?

I doubt the developers will be writing software for that particular use on the xda1, if you have a serial cable it will work on the xda as long as the radio stack is the early versions, it wont work on radio stack 4.21 for instance.

so where can i get the early(<4.20) Radio version coz i wanna use the
manipulator programme with my XDA2 device ?

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Chanaging IMEI is a way to get RID of those SPIES who pry into our personal info. Violations of our right to privicy....

Emil, can you expand on that statement please, the imei is the phones identity tag, if you have a prepay sim card your identity is unknown, if you have a post pay contract sim then your details are known and your phone is trackable by the sim details regardless of the imei/phone used.

i want to reset the timer to know how much i talked ,so where can i found that radio version

As far as I know, xda manipulator is for xda1 only.

IMEI-change and call-timer reset
No software exists to change IMEI or reset timers on Himalaya/XDA-II. Also no software does it to the Wallaby/XDA over USB, and The Manipulator, the program that does it to the Wallaby via the serial port only works with certain Radio Stack versions.
We have no legal or moral problems with IMEI-changing or timer reset, but it's a lot of hard work to write something which overwrites parts of people's radio software reliably. The last thing we want is 300 people wrecking their phones and blaming us. This issue has sort of scared us away from this type of modification.
(Unlocking is different since it only reads the ROM and then uses the 'official' mechanism of AT-commands in the phone for unlocking.)
No idea whether this topic will be revisited at some point, but don't hold your breath...

I can help you to change IMEI for XDA I or XDA II

cgigate
tell me how ....pls

cgigate said:
I can help you to change IMEI for XDA I or XDA II
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Will you tell how it all works, and maybe even create a wiki page on it? We have itsme's and W4XY's works, bu we need many more people to publish the results their trips into the phone ROM and bootloader...

Peter,
Can you tell me how to read or find my IMEI number. I have a phone that was a display model and the lable on the back was removed so I can't get it there and the system identity shows a generic IMEI number (as I've found with all the updated 2003 ones).
Thanks,
David

moto1 said:
Can you tell me how to read or find my IMEI number. I have a phone that was a display model and the lable on the back was removed so I can't get it there and the system identity shows a generic IMEI number (as I've found with all the updated 2003 ones).
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Try dialing *#06# on the phone. This works on all GSM phones (since it is in the GSM specification to be approved as one).

That still gives the generic IMEI number with an extra "01" at the end. It seems to be a glitch in the 2003 software because the IMEI numbers are available before you upgrade but not after. I thought I was missing something but the other units with the upgrade are giving the same generic number (350314010000009). Does anyone else come up with that IMEI #.(May be T-Mobile only!)
David

nope
I upgraded my rom lots of time and never lost my original IMEI number (which is written inside the case, under the battery)

It must be in the "T-Mobile" upgrade that changes the number in the system settings.

no solution till now????!!!!!

Problem connecting to Vodafone on SPV M3100

Firstly, hello everyone.
I recently bought the Orange SPV M3100 on eBay, and can not for the life of me get it to connect to Vodafone with my contract SIM.
So far I have:
-Sim unlocked and superCID'd the phone.
-Installed WM6 (via CUSTEL).
-Tried 3 different Radio versions.
-Attempted to install Vodafones official update (which failed for reasons unknown).
-Played around with just about all network settings.
Basically, the device acts as if it's trying to connect to the network, but doesn't (PC speakers pick up inteference etc).
With automatic network selection it just doesn't do anything.
With manual network selection it gives all four big UK providers (allowing for signal - I live in the North York Moors) including Vodafone, but won't connect to any of them.
If I click 'set networks' I get a HUGE list of providers. Vodafone UK (if it appears at all, for some reason O2 and TMobile seem to appear on the list more often) is nearly always unchecked at the bottom. Checking it doesn't fix the problem. When I go back there later it has sometimes lost that setting and Vodafone is unchecked at the bottom again.
I should probably mention that any setting I change here results in a 2 minute "Sending new settings to the network", and on a couple of occasions has caused it to crash.
If I go onto band settings, originally they were both set to auto. Infact, I've just gone onto it as I type, and they have gone back to auto. Before it had got stuck on GSM/UMTS band type 'GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)' (gave an error message unable to change band etc if I tried to change it to anything else). I cannot change the network type or GSM band otherwise without the same error message appearing.
So anyway, as you can see I've gone through a lot and read a lot unlike your typical n00b, and my prospects with this new phone are bleak.
Can anyone help me or suggest anything else that could get this phone onto Vodafone?
I have a worrying thought that this phone could have originally been half-inched (the eBay seller seemed a tad on the dodgy side), been reported, and is now serial-blocked from UK networks, if that's possible?
[edit] I don't know if they are or can be serial blocked, but in which case, assuming you trust and sympathise with my story, is it possible to hack & change the serial number?

Sounds possible that its been blocked. Yes there is a way but you probably won't find any help on this site to do it as it is illegal. Thats not to say you can't search the site, you may find something that may help... Search is your friend...
Cheers...

Yeah reading into the problem reveals a possible 'IMEI' block.
Time to contact the ebay seller I think.

Have spotted an obvious hole in my theory:
The thing came in it's original box (s/n sticker confirmed) with all manuals and accessories.
So back to original problems; is there anything else I have missed?
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Phone is unblocked according to http://www.amta.org.au/default.asp?Page=405.
So unless they're wrong, why can't I connect to Vodafone and what else can I try?

did you try *#06# on the phone to be sure the S/N on the stickers and phone is the same as the actual phone S/N?

Yes, they are.
Would Vodafone be of any help on this issue?

Depends if they supply that model of phone.
Do you have a network configurator app cooked into the rom you are using or are you using a stock rom?
Might be an idea to look for a network configurator cab if you're using the stock rom and see if that helps. Also if you are using a stock rom, and its not setup for vodaphone, it MAY (don't quote me on this) be affecting the network settings and making it incompatable with the carrier you want.
Just a thought...
I'd also try to run the sim unlock app again, just remember it has to be the SPL that was supplied with the sim/cid unlock tool. Make sure you install Hard SPL V7 back after checking this...

vodaphone will help you if you ring them up using a the sim card in a working phone and ask them to check if its imei is blocked, they do it totaly free of charge.. had to do this with a viewty i bought from a work buddy shorty before he forgot to tell me he did not pay the contract bill and t-mobile blocked it. well annoyed, but they told me it was reported Lost or stolen.
found a few places on the net that offer a check for £10 sod em lol
luckly got me cash back selling it for parts hehe

What a bloody carry on!
Vodafone told me it was blacklisted; reported stolen.
The eBay member is highly upset at being called a theif and very convincingly tells me otherwise (I'm 90% sure I can believe his story, and feel bad for my accusation).
Orange (of whom I'm not even a customer) then tell me "I'm sorry it's blacklisted for an unknown reason ... <click-click> ... there you go sir I've removed it from the blacklist!"
Well, if it starts working again in the next 48 hours I couldn't give a monkeys what's gone on. I just want the bugger to work!

the only reason that a phone would be blocked is if it was reported.......have you tried another sim from o2 or orange etc.
the question has been asked before about imei changing and as you know its illegal,but can be done so if all else fails search elsewhere,not here, i would suggest that unblocking a phone is never likely to be an achievable goal.the networks are not known for their magninimity

My IMEI is different from what it says on the sticker

The sticker and box say one thing, but the IMEI on the handset is different.
All I have ever done to the phone was soft/hard (I forget which) SPL so that I could flash WinMo 6.5 following the instructions on the wiki, and everything has been fine since I did this back in May/June time.
Now I have decided to unlock it as I am on O2 with an iPhone, and thought I would use my HD as a backup phone, so I bought a credit on HTCCode.com after seeing several success stories, and it failed on the login with the software. No big concerns just yet, I emailed him the details to sort it, however as I was typing out the IMEI from the box, I thought to double check on the handset, and discovered they are different.
Is this something likely to have been changed by the SPL thing when I flashed it?
I assume I can get it unlocked via the IMEI which is currently on the handset, but I am concerned that this is not the correct one.
Any help?
TIA

ive seen other threads for other devices where ppl have claimed flashing hardspl has changed there imei number ..... just use the one ur fone reports and nt the one on the box .... no big deal

Yeah I realise it works and it's not a problem, but it may look a little bit dodgy if I choose to sell it.
The unlock worked fine anyway, just seems a little odd that the IMEI is so easy to change on these handsets. I thought it was supposed to be almost impossible.
Oh well.

You've probably looked at your phone's system properties to see what it says the IMEI number is. You can also dial *#06# on your phone's key pad. When the final # is entered, a 15-digit number will appear. This is a free call regardless of whether you have a SIM card installed.
As long as you're not doing anything illegal, you should be okay. Within the past couple of days, I read something about crooks changing IMEI numbers mostly with stolen phones but also to evade the law.
I registered my new Blackstone Clone with T-Mobile today on their prepaid plan. I asked them what IMEI number they showed and the operator said she not disclose the number but could confirm it if I, the phone's owner, gave it to her. When I dialed in *#06# (I was on a land line) on the Clone, she confirmed the IMEI when I gave it to her.

[Q] Need help: strange block on phone

Hello,
I recently bought a S5 in the netherlands (i live and use the phone in belgium). Started it up, everything works fine. I make one phonecall as required for the regionlock, works fine.
Then something strange happens, after the one phonecall required, i cant accept or make phonecalls anymore.
I get a message "your phone has been locked due to security reasons"
Now the weird thing is, if i use a simcard from another carrier, the phone just works fine, no locking whatsoever...
Called Samsung support, told the story, they tell me phone is region locked and i need to get a code, but the phone never asks me for a code nor can i put one in anywhere.
So i called my provider, they tell me the phone is blacklisted probably but they cant check that...
After some research i found out the phone is actualy from UK with an international firmware on it: G900FXXU1ANG2 (countrycode BTU)
Anyone have an idea how to get rid of this problem?
I dont want to root the phone just yet in case i have to exchange it for another one.
Would it help to get the countryspecific stock firmware installed for my country? (Belgium)
thanks a lot for the help
thale

You'd get better help if you gave us more details, notably verbatim error messages, rather than paraphrasing.
Your provider can certainly tell you if your phone is blacklisted since an IMEI blacklist is under their direct control. So ask them again to clarify that. Region locking is much more likely though. Samsung region locks phones to prevent grey market sales, which is exactly what you've tried to do. The region lock is released after you use the phone a short while with a provider in the original region, which sounds like the UK in your case. Region locking is also a type of blacklist, although that term is almost always used to refer to carrier IMEI blacklisting unless otherwise specified.
As you didn't make any preliminary calls in the UK, nor apparently did the previous owner (or vendor), the phone is now restricted. You could travel to the UK and use your phone there for a day to dissipate the region lock. Or a lot of people claim that a regular SIM unlock code, such as you can buy on Ebay or any number of other places will also remove the region lock (unconfirmed). Or you can root your phone and circumvent the region lock by editing the blocked regions in your customer.xml file.
There are lots of existing threads on this subject, as you would know if had you done a search. Refer to those for further elaboration or you can search my post history as I've posted in detail how to remove the region lock in previous posts.
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Thanks for the reply, this forum was my last resort since i didnt understand the problem.
I dont get any error messages at all.
provider A in S5 --> while calling i get the message phone blocked for security reason
provider A in S4 mini --> works perfectly
Provider B in S5 --> works perfectly
so i thought problems lies with faulty simcard, exchanged it but problem stays
when i call samsung they tell me its a provider problem
when i call my provider they say its a phone problem
in europe shouldnt matter realy where you buy your phone since there's free traffic of goods and services. I wonder if the webshop knows they are selling UK phones, ill talk to them about it tomorrow.
thanks again for the reply ill try to get the problem sorted, if that doesnt work at all, i guess ill just root it and fix the problem
kind regards,
thale

Humh, sounds weird.
Use the code *#7465625# (*#SIMLOCK#) to check for the lock status. On some devices this code needs root to launch.

thalekick said:
Thanks for the reply, this forum was my last resort since i didnt understand the problem.
I dont get any error messages at all.
provider A in S5 --> while calling i get the message phone blocked for security reason
provider A in S4 mini --> works perfectly
Provider B in S5 --> works perfectly
so i thought problems lies with faulty simcard, exchanged it but problem stays
when i call samsung they tell me its a provider problem
when i call my provider they say its a phone problem
in europe shouldnt matter realy where you buy your phone since there's free traffic of goods and services. I wonder if the webshop knows they are selling UK phones, ill talk to them about it tomorrow.
thanks again for the reply ill try to get the problem sorted, if that doesnt work at all, i guess ill just root it and fix the problem
kind regards,
thale
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If I understood you correctly, your SIM card works properly in other phones. So your SIM card shouldn't be the issue. If your S5 is SIM unlocked (carrier unlocked), you could try someone else's SIM card in your S5 to rule out less common problems e.g. bent SIM socket.
And regardless, in your place, I'd open a support ticket with your provider. That should cover anything like a IMEI blacklist. All in all though it does sound like region locking. Which is Samsung blocking a phone from being used in a different region unless it has been first activated (i.e. used for a few calls) in the original region first. I wouldn't think that a region lock between two parts of Europe would be intentional, but it is still something to look into.
Without any explicit error messages, it is difficult to narrow down the cause. You might consider installing a logcat app to capture the system log which may have more information about the error.
Also try dialing *#06* and ensure that you have a valid IMEI (not all zeros)
And dial *#0011#. You should see a (IMEI) certificate "Pass"if at the end. If it says IMEI CERTI: FAIL or NA you may have a flash error or IMEI blacklist.
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Hello,
phone is an unlocked one, i used 2 different simcards from 2 different providers.
imei certificate passes so thats good!
im gonna make some phonecalls today and keep you all posted
kind regards
thale

Try to use Provider A with another sim card?
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Had another talk with the helpdesk from the provider, they told me the phone is blacklisted but couldnt give me a reason why.
Im only blacklisted with provider A, if u use the phone with another simcard from another provider it works like a charm.
Ive had to send them my proof of purchase, and they will unblock the phone...
Havent had any feedback yet from the shop i bought it from, so maybe they can shine a new light on the whole deal!

Try
How about contacting the retailer? I think you'd better not root the phone or fix it by yourself.