ATT EDGE and 3G connection question - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I have a 8525 w/ the retail WM6 and i am not sure which radio version. (if someone tells me how to i will)
I live in Fresno,CA 93611 zip which according to ATTs site is 3G signal.
But i only get the E with the box around it.... i have never seen a G
I think this means i am connected to EDGE and not 3G.
Is there anyway to force 3G and not allow EDGE? 3G is mainly the reason i upgraded from my 8125.
When i use a speed tester I get 154kbs download and 85 upload which seems to be EDGE speeds.
if anyone has some advice please let me know.
thanks guys

You might have a old SIM card that does not have 3G compatability!

hmm okay, how would i be able to tell...
mine says 64K smartchip
X cingular then the IME number
would i need this card... cuz this is not the one i have
http://www.negrielectronics.com/att-3g-sim-card-p-880.html?currency=USD
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adidas4275 said:
hmm okay, how would i be able to tell... mine says 64K, smartchip, X cingular then the IME number
would i need this card... cuz this is not the one i have
http://www.negrielectronics.com/att-3g-sim-card-p-880.html?currency=USD
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The speeds you indicated are definately Edge. 3G (HSDPA) will get you about 4x that speed. But forget about the SIM in this case. It's not the problem. Sounds like you have an "orange" SIM which will work just fine on a 3G network. All you'd need is a device that supports it (and the 8925 does), a data plan, and adequate signal strength. If the signal is weak you will drop down to Edge.
Are you on a custom ROM or a stock AT&T ROM? If custom most have an option in Comm Manager to enable / disable 3G. Some also have addon utilities to enable / disable it. I can say that Schap's 4.31 (and every one I've tried for the 8525) will support 3G.

okay i will try the new rom, i am on the stock....
PITA to reinstall all my programs and such but id rather do it now and have 3G to watch TV via ORB on
ill report back after i flash my rom.
thanks

Dude.
It is the SIM card. You need one that says 3G on it, they can be had at walmart even. But if all else fails ask ATT to send you one (they might even do it for free). ATT says that you need a 3G SIM to get 3G signal, all I know is I started getting 3G after I changed the SIM card and I was on the new WM6 ATT ROM.
Flashing your radio or your ROM will not fix this problem.
HSPDA enabling needs a 3G SIM to work.
That said, go ahead and flash Schaps 4.31 ROM... it is sweet and stable and has most everyting you need in it.
And please tell us if you got 3G with that old 64K SIM card.... that would be cool to know (although pretty surprising).

okay got it flashed buyt still only EDGE
i will be going down to my att shop tomorrow and trying to get them to upgrade my SIM
thanks guys

adidas4275 said:
okay got it flashed buyt still only EDGE
i will be going down to my att shop tomorrow and trying to get them to upgrade my SIM
thanks guys
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I'm on the same SIM as you described above. I've had this very SIM from long before I was on a 3G capable device, and before 3G was even available from Cingular / AT&T. Every time I've switched phones (never purchased through AT&T by the way) I just pop out the SIM and put it into the new device. Mine works just fine with 3G.
That's why I'm thinking it's not a SIM issue, but maybe an account related issue. The SIM does NOT store anything that enables or disables 3G. That happens on the network side. So I'd just call AT&T and ask them to enable 3G for your account. That should do the trick for you... I'll bet my SIM on it. And if they still want to send you a new SIM - well still no big deal.

I can tell you for 100% you must have a 3G sim card in order for you to be able to access UMTS. The sim will either say it on the front (for older cards) or on the back of the sim card (for the new att sim cards). Either way you must have 3G card. When you get the card and the sim number is updated in att system it will automaticlly activate the 3G code on your line. Thus enabling you to access UMTS.

jlebeane said:
I can tell you for 100% you must have a 3G sim card in order for you to be able to access UMTS. The sim will either say it on the front (for older cards) or on the back of the sim card (for the new att sim cards). Either way you must have 3G card. When you get the card and the sim number is updated in att system it will automaticlly activate the 3G code on your line. Thus enabling you to access UMTS.
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Don't want to get into a pissing match over something this silly... but I can tell you for 100% that I don't have a 3G SIM card, and I do have 3G and HSDPA service. The SIM contains NO information that determines whether you do or do not have 3G capability. However I will concede that carriers may compel their subscribers to switch SIM's BEFORE they will enable 3G on an account. But the key is that 3G is enabled at the account level, not with a SIM. Again, I have a 3 year old SIM (from before 3G was offered)... I have 3G service.
If you research the SIM, here's what you'll find it contains. SIM cards store network specific information used to authenticate and identify subscribers on the Network, the most important of these are the ICCID, IMSI, Authentication Key (Ki), Local Area Identity (LAI) and Operator-Specific Emergency Number. The SIM also stores other carrier specific data such as the SMSC (Short Message Service Center) number, Service Provider Name (SPN), Service Dialing Numbers (SDN), Advice-Of-Charge parameters and Value Added Service (VAS) applications. None of this dictates whether or not you have 3G access, basically all it's doing is linking your device to an account so you can be billed.

not sure anout the sim yet..
i flash to new rom and still only edge...
I am going to L.A. tomorrow so we will see if it is an area thing... i will call ATT tomorrow and ask them to enable 3G on my account...
thanks guys

I know on my MDA in order for it to even show the E icon instead of the G I had to hack the registry. Surely you have 3G coverage in that area. Install the Schap's Advanced Config. app and turn it on through that.

okay i finally got it on the 3G and H service.... with download ay 458kbps watching live TV from my media server via orb w/o any distortion
thanks guys for the help.
i flashed to schaps wm6 updated my ROM and got a new ATT 3G sim and it works great... probably was a combo of things that were standning in my way...
thanks again

Well it seems as though it was probably the sim to me :0)
I have a 3G sim card if anyone wants it.

whats the difference between 3G and the H
it seems that when i am using the phone for voice it is on 3G
and when i am using data it is the H

actually you both are right, i worked for cingular/at&t the "3g" sim cards do contain information that allows you to access 3g networks the sim card is assigned a number if that number is a "3g" sim it automaticlly makes the nessicary changes to your account however if you can find someone in customer service who knows what they are doing they can change it manually most will not know what to do as the offical at&t procidure to fix that problem is "change sim card" besides just take a trip down to your local at&t store they will give you a new sim for free (a real store not an agent agents do charge for sim cards) oh yea and once you get the new sim enjoy the speed it makes all the trouble you have been through worth wile

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handbook?

Hi Folks
Does anyone have a soft copy of the handbook for the Universal they could post or mail me? Love to have a read.
Also, for the 3G calling, does it use a sim or usim?
cheer
Brett
mavrik64 said:
Hi Folks
Does anyone have a soft copy of the handbook for the Universal they could post or mail me? Love to have a read.
Also, for the 3G calling, does it use a sim or usim?
cheer
Brett
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3G traffic (be it data or video) always require a USIM. If you don't have any, you cannot get onto the 3G network. I'm actually having this issue, as I travel to the UK a lot, where T-mobile has a live 3G network. As I do not have a USIM (since T-Mobile NL doesn't offer 3G yet), I cannot roam onto their 3G network, only onto GPRS...
Bugger...
My operator (Telenor in Norway) enables the customers to use their OLD SIM cards and still have full 3G access!
My SIM card is from 2004, but customers may use cards that go back to July 2000 on the 3G network..
There has been some Over The Air updates, but these might be for something else..
The user only gets a SMS saying: "You SIM card has been updated, please reboot your phone."
So we can use the same SIM on a new and old phone, 3G or no 3G...
http://www.manuals.t-mobile.co.uk/start.asp?manual=1217
Not 100% what you're after, but hope that helps.
stamppot said:
3G traffic (be it data or video) always require a USIM. If you don't have any, you cannot get onto the 3G network. I'm actually having this issue, as I travel to the UK a lot, where T-mobile has a live 3G network. As I do not have a USIM (since T-Mobile NL doesn't offer 3G yet), I cannot roam onto their 3G network, only onto GPRS...
Bugger...
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Well, I'm using a 4-year-old T-Mobile SIM in my JasJar, and I'm getting 3G access with absolutely no problems...
I didn't think there was such a thing as a USIM exactly? I got the impression that a "USIM" was just a normal 3v SIM card which has been enabled for use on the UMTS network. And that's done by pressing a button at T-Mobile 'Command Centre'...
'3' here in the UK make a big deal about USIM cards, and how you have to have one to use a 3G phone, but that only seems to apply to their handsets, because they put about 800 billion security locks on each of them. In my experience, Vodafone and T-Mobile don't require you to upgrade the actual SIM card at all, and I assume that Orange and O2 are the same.
sub69 said:
Well, I'm using a 4-year-old T-Mobile SIM in my JasJar, and I'm getting 3G access with absolutely no problems...
I didn't think there was such a thing as a USIM exactly? I got the impression that a "USIM" was just a normal 3v SIM card which has been enabled for use on the UMTS network. And that's done by pressing a button at T-Mobile 'Command Centre'...
'3' here in the UK make a big deal about USIM cards, and how you have to have one to use a 3G phone, but that only seems to apply to their handsets, because they put about 800 billion security locks on each of them. In my experience, Vodafone and T-Mobile don't require you to upgrade the actual SIM card at all, and I assume that Orange and O2 are the same.
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Hmmm, you learn something new every day... It could be that one can indeed update the SIM to a USIM with a OTA update, I just hadn't heard about that before. I might put in a phonecall to T-Mobile...
Thanks for the heads-up!
I'd better just point out that my last post was entirely guesswork on my part, based on the fact that my old T-Mobile SIM, and my sister's (3-year?)old Vodafone SIM both work perfectly in 3G devices.
In my case, I never even told T-Mobile that I'd bought a 3G phone, the SIM just worked on 3G from the second I put it in, so no OTA upgrade needed? (Of course, maybe they gave us UK customer's an upgrade one night without telling us?!)
My sister got an official Vodafone upgrade to a 3G phone, so they may have done an OTA thingy at the time, but the actual physical card is the same...

Didn't get a SIM card with new Verizon account

Hi,
I just changed from Cingular to Verizon. I'm about to unlock my 8125 so that I can use it with Verizon but my new Verizon phone (LG VX5300) doesn't have a SIM card.
Is that just because it's a cheap phone or because Verizon doesn't use SIM cards?
If Verizon does use SIM cards, do I have to get one from them? What are my options?
TIA
Ken
ken350z said:
Hi,
I just changed from Cingular to Verizon. I'm about to unlock my 8125 so that I can use it with Verizon but my new Verizon phone (LG VX5300) doesn't have a SIM card.
Is that just because it's a cheap phone or because Verizon doesn't use SIM cards?
If Verizon does use SIM cards, do I have to get one from them? What are my options?
TIA
Ken
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Verizon is a CDMA provider and they do not use SIM cards...to get it activated on the Verizon network you need to call up Verizon directly and they will help you through the activation process
Also you cannot use your 8125 on Verizon as that is a GSM phone (different techs)...the closest thing that you can use on the Verizon network that resembles the 8125 is their 6700 (XV6700) or whatever they call it (its the Apache)
i hope this answers your question Ken
no sim
Sprint, Verizon, Alltel, US Cellular, and any other CDMA company don't have sim cards. Only the GSM Carriers have them. The VX-6700 (HTC Magician) is the CDMA version of the wizard.
Verizon is CDMA, not GSM. CDMA doesn't use SIMs -- not that it matters since your GSM 8125 won't work on the Verizon CDMA network. Verizon offers the XV6700, which is basically a CDMA version of the 8125.
wm1 said:
The VX-6700 (HTC Magician) is the CDMA version of the wizard.
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False, the HTC Magician is the I-Mate Jam
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The 6700 is the Apache which is the CDMA variant of the wizard. Also the 6700 has a faster processor (416mhz) and faster wireless connectivity (1xEVDO/1xRTT which is equivalent to 3G)
Your phone will be useless once you switch to Verizon.
lol @ this thread
good stuff here
wanna sell your 8125 really cheap? lol
lol this is what happens when mommy and daddy give kids credit cards.. they buy expensive toys and dont know what they r all about ill give u 50$ for ur 8125 lol
I hope you haven't passed your exchange policy yet...so you can either get the Apache, or refund.
Or sell your 8125.
So why did you switch to Verizon anyways? I prefer Cingular over Verizon any day...but that's my humble opinion.
CDMA/GSM triband phone on Verizon
So I am looking at the Nokia N71, which says it's CDMA and GSM compatible. I therefore assume that, since Verizon is CDMA, they must provide a sim card for such phones, or no? If not, then how do their dual band phones work? Is there only a sim card for the GSM networks, and then for the domestic Verizon CDMA network their global phones use something other than a sim card??
Totally confused.
jemak said:
So I am looking at the Nokia N71, which says it's CDMA and GSM compatible. I therefore assume that, since Verizon is CDMA, they must provide a sim card for such phones, or no? If not, then how do their dual band phones work? Is there only a sim card for the GSM networks, and then for the domestic Verizon CDMA network their global phones use something other than a sim card??
Totally confused.
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gsm is tmobile and cingular

Using a T-Mobile SGH-M919 Galaxy S4 on AT&T mnvo?

Greetings,
Recently I read in posts here that everyone seemed to think it was possible to use the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 on the AT&T network if it were unlocked since the bands appear to be the same.
I purchased a new T-Mobile Galaxy S4, Unlocked it, rooted it, set the proper APN settings for Red Pocket Mobile, and registered on the network and guess what?............ NO data connection. I even tried flashing deviants stock rom.
I have tried everything I can think of and still I can not get this phone to give me any data service, only phone service.
I use this same sim card in my other android phones with the same APN settings and it works fine for data.
Has anyone else purchased the T-mobile Galaxy S4 and used it on the AT&T network successfully getting DATA? And how about LTE, or 3g speeds. I get NO data.
If any success on this, please advise. I am getting ready to send it back if I do not get a resolution for this in the next day or two.
And yes I do get data with the T-mobile sim card but it is only 2g in my area (edge).
I posted a similar post over on the T-mobile and it has been 3 days now and there hasn't been one good solution posted yet. Therefore I thought I would go at this from the AT&T forum because a lot of you may be thinking of doing the same thing and there may be someone here that has a solution to my issue that hasn't been reading the T-mobile forum.
Have none of the AT&T users ran to buy the NON locked bootloader T_mobile version of this phone?
I bought my GS4 today in anticipation that it will be unlocked eventually and the radio/modem files will be merged to be able to use it on both networks. I suspect numerous user are just waiting and watching for the same thing. I have been reading both the TMO and ATT threads just like you.
buyslake said:
Have none of the AT&T users ran to buy the NON locked bootloader T_mobile version of this phone?
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why would we do that?
Why did you do all that?
Buyslake,
Greetings. You did not have to do all that. I have the T-Mo S4 SGH M919. The back of the brown box it came in lists all the frequencies including the LTE bands that cover ATT's radio frequencies include TMo's and more.
You'll see that it has ATT's bands as well.. that is, bands XVII (700) and bands IV and 1, i.e. 1700/2100 MHz(AWS).
That's exactly why I bought phone. Two days after buying it full price, I used the app called UnlockUnit to unlock it from TMo's network and I just put in my ATT sim card. Worked like a charm... on 4G, LTE, what have you. No issues. Hard for me to comprehend why yours is problematic.
Regards!!
Only thing I can think of is use the secret codes to get into the service menu and check the radio channels are turned on correctly, like the guy above it should have worked unless the red company is using some odd frequency.
buyslake said:
Have none of the AT&T users ran to buy the NON locked bootloader T_mobile version of this phone?
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I did, and I discovered that I'm getting faster LTE speeds than my friend's AT&T S4. He only lives two blocks from me.
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Ok so I don't know where else to post this guess I'm first one to have this problem. .. it seems that when u root the gs4 the wireless screen mirroring stops working. .... someone please help I ve searched thru all forums nothing on this
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hotboy2542002 said:
Ok so I don't know where else to post this guess I'm first one to have this problem. .. it seems that when u root the gs4 the wireless screen mirroring stops working. .... someone please help I ve searched thru all forums nothing on this
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This is way off topic for this thread but you can go to this link it see if you can find answers there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266548&highlight=mirror
There is a discussion about the issue and other links for you to check within the thread. If you have any more questions make sure you search for the answers first, and if you can't find them post them in the thread(s) listed above. Good luck.
I can almost assure you the APN is incorrect. What are your settings
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buyslake said:
Greetings,
Recently I read in posts here that everyone seemed to think it was possible to use the T-Mobile Galaxy S4 on the AT&T network if it were unlocked since the bands appear to be the same.
I purchased a new T-Mobile Galaxy S4, Unlocked it, rooted it, set the proper APN settings for Red Pocket Mobile, and registered on the network and guess what?............ NO data connection. I even tried flashing deviants stock rom.
I have tried everything I can think of and still I can not get this phone to give me any data service, only phone service.
I use this same sim card in my other android phones with the same APN settings and it works fine for data.
Has anyone else purchased the T-mobile Galaxy S4 and used it on the AT&T network successfully getting DATA? And how about LTE, or 3g speeds. I get NO data.
If any success on this, please advise. I am getting ready to send it back if I do not get a resolution for this in the next day or two.
And yes I do get data with the T-mobile sim card but it is only 2g in my area (edge).
I posted a similar post over on the T-mobile and it has been 3 days now and there hasn't been one good solution posted yet. Therefore I thought I would go at this from the AT&T forum because a lot of you may be thinking of doing the same thing and there may be someone here that has a solution to my issue that hasn't been reading the T-mobile forum.
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im getting a t-mobile s4 tomorrow and i have at&t service i was planning on unlocking it will i have a problem with data as well i was planning on manually entering the mobile network settings
i 2 have been searching and also trying to see if i can flash the stock at&t rom to the t-mobile s4
Did you get an answer?
I now have the same problem for a phone I got the unlock code from T-Mobile for. Phone and text work, but everytime we try to pull data, something from T-Mobile keeps disabling data mode.
Did you ever get a straight answer? I can't get the phone to let me edit the APN settings.
tmobile s4 on att go phone h20 or redpocket, apn that is in the phone gets reverted back to old wap.cingular apn. DATA and MMS
Name: Red Pocket Mobile
APN: att.mvno
Proxy: proxy.mvno.rpmobileweb.com
Port: 80
Username:
Password:
Server: 66.209.11.33
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: proxy.mvno.rpmobileweb.com
MMS Port: 80
MMS Protocol:
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication type: Not set
APN type: default,supl,mms
Bearer: Unspecified
Make sure "Mobile Data" is ticked/checked on under Mobile Networks.
Data Roaming should be off or unchecked.
make sure under username and password is blank . you may see the word "NONE" written , just erase it as that would be main reason for not allowing data on redpocket. but you should really just get att gophones 60 dollar plan . redpocket is an att mvno but service is terrible still . just as bad as tmobile. if your data still doesnt work after all that it might just be you live way out in bufu land . sorry
I see that this is an old thread, but very relevant to my current situation. I just won an S4 t-mobile (M919) on eBay and plan to activate it on Cricket (AT&T network). I see from the above posts that some have experienced problems getting mobile data while others have no issues. I'd be interested to hear about any recent experience. The phone arrives tomorrow and I'd like to be prepared
As long as it's unlocked or you have a carrier compatible sim card it should work. You just need the correct apn settings i use the att s4 on straight talk with att compatible sim. Great service. My I337 is unlocked and I had a tmobile compatible sim card from straight talk but tmobile service isn't strong in my area also no tmobile towers anywhere closse. So i switched.
macasus76 said:
As long as it's unlocked or you have a carrier compatible sim card it should work. You just need the correct apn settings i use the att s4 on straight talk with att compatible sim. Great service. My I337 is unlocked and I had a tmobile compatible sim card from straight talk but tmobile service isn't strong in my area also no tmobile towers anywhere closse. So i switched.
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Thanks. As an aside, we switched from Straight Talk to Cricket. Better price, more data, and no data cutoff (ie, just throttled) when reaching 2.5GB.
We're buying the M919 and selling the I337 because AT&T has locked the bootloader which prevents the installation of TWRP recovery software. That's a deal breaker for us
flroots said:
We're buying the M919 and selling the I337 because AT&T has locked the bootloader which prevents the installation of TWRP recovery software. That's a deal breaker for us
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Exactly what I'm in the process of doing! Ditching the I337 for a M919
macasus76 said:
Exactly what I'm in the process of doing! Ditching the I337 for a M919
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Today I received my T-mobile S4 (M919) along with an unlock code provided by eBay seller. Everything worked well. When plugging in my Cricket (AT&T prepaid carrier) SIM card I entered the code as requested and immediately got voice and text, but no mobile data. There were no APN settings, so I entered those as provided by Cricket which gave me 4g data. I then proceeded to install TWRP recovery software and root the phone. That also went well. There is only one remaining issue of which I'm aware. Titanium Backup claims insufficient space when doing a backup (to extSDcard) This error is serious because I have 24 GB available on the extSDcard. I wonder if I need to run SDFix app? So far writing to extSDcard has not been a problem since I can make Nandroid backups to it and also save pics to it.
flroots said:
Today I received my T-mobile S4 (M919) along with an unlock code provided by eBay seller. Everything worked well. When plugging in my Cricket (AT&T prepaid carrier) SIM card I entered the code as requested and immediately got voice and text, but no mobile data. There were no APN settings, so I entered those as provided by Cricket which gave me 4g data. I then proceeded to install TWRP recovery software and root the phone. That also went well. There is only one remaining issue of which I'm aware. Titanium Backup claims insufficient space when doing a backup (to extSDcard) This error is serious because I have 24 GB available on the extSDcard. I wonder if I need to run SDFix app? So far writing to extSDcard has not been a problem since I can make Nandroid backups to it and also save pics to it.
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If I'm not mistaken I think you need a tmobile sim card for tmobiles WiFi calling. And I'm sure you checked but are you positive you have enough space on extsd?
macasus76 said:
If I'm not mistaken I think you need a tmobile sim card for tmobiles WiFi calling. And I'm sure you checked but are you positive you have enough space on extsd?
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Thanks. I discovered the error with Titanium Backup. I had to run the SDFix app to fix it. It was a question of write permissions. Yes, I agree you would probably need a T-mobile SIM for WiFi calling. I just found out where to disable it since it was mostly a nuisance error in Notifications.
One pleasant surprise is that apparently the T-mobile version (4.4.4) supports HotSpot/Tethering whereas the AT&T version (4.4.2) did not.

[Q] How compatible is the Verizon Samsung S5 with AT&T / T-Mobile?

Anyone put in AT&T and T-Mobile SIM in Verizon Samsung S5?
Are you able to get data working? Which APN settings did you use? 3G, 4G, or LTE?
Would also be interested in this if anybody has an answer.
To make it more simple for anybody that may know what they're talking about, the following are screenshots of supported bands on both devices:
Verizon
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I see some compatible bands, but I'd like to be sure about the extent of compatibility with T-Mobile's 4G HSPA+ and LTE networks (fully compatible, partially, only 3G, etc). Thank you in advance for any responses.
XFlyer said:
Anyone put in AT&T and T-Mobile SIM in Verizon Samsung S5?
Are you able to get data working? Which APN settings did you use? 3G, 4G, or LTE?
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I can confirm that the Galaxy S5 does support AT&T's HPSA+ network, but not their LTE network. However, at least in my area, they seemed to give pretty much the same speed; HPSA+ is quite capable.
That said, it was really just a test to see if the SIM card slot was unlocked since I will be traveling overseas in the near future, and would like the ability to pop in a SIM card from there and use my GS5. It does put a persistent notification up stating that I am not using a supported SIM card, but it doesn't actually prevent it. Note that once a 3rd party SIM card is put in, the APN configuration is unlocked and able to be used. You will need to enter the info manually since current Android versions block the ability of 3rd party programs to update APNs. Unless we happen to get root, then they can automatically update them...I hope we get root.
works on tmobile
I'm currently using tmobile sim in a verizon s5. Everything is working for me. I'm in a rear med 3g area so I get hspa+ speeds for 3g and lte also works. The only thing is that I have to switch network modes to get lte. When I switch I only have access to data until I switch back to 3g/UMTS .
drworsley said:
I'm currently using tmobile sim in a verizon s5. Everything is working for me. I'm in a rear med 3g area so I get hspa+ speeds for 3g and lte also works. The only thing is that I have to switch network modes to get lte. When I switch I only have access to data until I switch back to 3g/UMTS .
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what setting are you using? I also have an S5 form verizon with a T-mobile SIM Card.. everything works except sending pics in mms..
Thanks in advanced for any advice!
jpina71 said:
what setting are you using? I also have an S5 form verizon with a T-mobile SIM Card.. everything works except sending pics in mms..
Thanks in advanced for any advice!
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what kind of problem sending mms?
Not able to send any pictures...I can receive but not send.
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For those of you who got this working, can you explain exactly what you did? The phone is not SIM locked, but it doesn't seem to roam to TMobile or ATT when one of their SIMs in inserted. An Australian SIM, which roams to TMobile when in a Nexus 5, yields the same behavior (no service) in the galaxy S5.
This behavior is in line with other VZW phones I've had -- they work internationally -- but will not roam off of VZW in the US. The phone reverts to "emergency calls only" when a non VZW SIM is used in the US.
-- Dan
Cpudan80 said:
For those of you who got this working, can you explain exactly what you did? The phone is not SIM locked, but it doesn't seem to roam to TMobile or ATT when one of their SIMs in inserted. An Australian SIM, which roams to TMobile when in a Nexus 5, yields the same behavior (no service) in the galaxy S5.
This behavior is in line with other VZW phones I've had -- they work internationally -- but will not roam off of VZW in the US. The phone reverts to "emergency calls only" when a non VZW SIM is used in the US.
-- Dan
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On the Verzion s4, I was able to just put in my sim card and and change the mobile setting from cdma to global. To get 4G LTE on t-mobile, I would just add the t-mobile fast apn.
I'm sure this is the same case with the VZN S5
initial_k said:
On the Verzion s4, I was able to just put in my sim card and and change the mobile setting from cdma to global. To get 4G LTE on t-mobile, I would just add the t-mobile fast apn.
I'm sure this is the same case with the VZN S5
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Well, apparently it is not. I'm happy to post screenshots of the phone with an (active) TMobile SIM in it -- nothing happens.
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Well, apparently it is not. I'm happy to post screenshots of the phone with an (active) TMobile SIM in it -- nothing happens.
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I didn't do anything special with my VZW Galaxy S5. I simply popped in an AT&T SIM, turned the phone back on, and I immediately had voice service. I had to add in the APN info to get data to work, but that's the only thing I had to do.
This is also the same experience I had with my VZW Galaxy S3 and an AT&T SIM.
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I wonder if there is something unique about TMobile SIMs (and Foreign SIMs which rely on TMo in the US)? Several of my coworkers have Galaxy S IIIs and none of them can get TMobile (or foreign) SIMs to work.
Here's a screenshot with a TMobile SIM inserted. I went ahead and inputted the APN for TMobile LTE, no dice.
In case anyone is wondering, the phone works in Intl gsm networks, no SIM unlock required.
Source: I am posting this in Australia on Telstra. No VZW towers to be found here!
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I have an S5 and I'm using it on T-Mobile without any issues.. However, when I get a picture message it retrieves it as a a group message.
Does anyone know how to work around this? So I can receive mms in the standard thread
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jmorales5922 said:
I have an S5 and I'm using it on T-Mobile without any issues.. However, when I get a picture message it retrieves it as a a group message.
Does anyone know how to work around this? So I can receive mms in the standard thread
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***update.
Mobile hotspot tethering also does not work!!! If anyone knows a workaround for both I'd greatly appreciate it.
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jmorales5922 said:
***update.
Mobile hotspot tethering also does not work!!! If anyone knows a workaround for both I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Native hotspot won't work with no plan before we got root, if we ever get it. I've read here Foxfi app allows usb and Bluetooth tethering, but I haven't tried yet.
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jmorales5922 said:
***update.
Mobile hotspot tethering also does not work!!! If anyone knows a workaround for both I'd greatly appreciate it.
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I don't have any problem to send and receive MMS on SM-G900V also T-Mobile.
What is your phone said when you tried to turn hotspot on your device? My is said Mobile number not found. I also like to know if any solution for native tethering. I don't like FoxFi.
I got a AT&T Sim Card to work on the Verizon GS5 (both voice & data) but how do I get rid of the "Phone Activation: This SIM card is from an unknonw source." from the notification menu?
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I got a AT&T Sim Card to work on the Verizon GS5 (both voice & data) but how do I get rid of the "Phone Activation: This SIM card is from an unknonw source." from the notification menu?
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You have to go to the application manager and force close the setup wizard app, the one with the check mark
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Does "Clean ESN" matter with newer phones

Due to recent financial issues I may have to let go of my verizon service due to the expenses and get on a family members plan with ATT. This will mean I have the S5 and no way to use it. If I was to sell it would someone be able to use it on verizon still? I know in the past your phone would be flagged and it would no longer be allowed. I wasnt sure if that was still the case with verizons move to SIM cards.
Thanks.
One more question, which prepaid services would work? Any with LTE?
mrjkwik said:
Due to recent financial issues I may have to let go of my verizon service due to the expenses and get on a family members plan with ATT. This will mean I have the S5 and no way to use it. If I was to sell it would someone be able to use it on verizon still? I know in the past your phone would be flagged and it would no longer be allowed. I wasnt sure if that was still the case with verizons move to SIM cards.
Thanks.
One more question, which prepaid services would work? Any with LTE?
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Believe there to be a security feature active that you would have to look into before sale to make sure the new owner could use it....
Give this a read HERE.
or cancel your account then it will show as not being an active device.. of course if you have a contract you will have an etf to pay as with most carriers...
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Put a dumb phone on the account before you terminate service.
The s5 is gsm unlocked so if u use with att or tmobile itll be fine
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if you have any older verizon phone.... activate that on your present line.... then that phone will not be "locked" with a bad esn....
I did still have my GS3, so I just swapped my card in it. Made a call and sent a text. So I guess we'll see.
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The s5 is gsm unlocked so if u use with att or tmobile itll be fine
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Not true. It is unlocked, but it does not accept ATT or TMo SIMs. Foreign SIMs work, but only in foreign countries.
Cpudan80 said:
Not true. It is unlocked, but it does not accept ATT or TMo SIMs. Foreign SIMs work, but only in foreign countries.
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Can anyone please verify this? Another question, how do we make it work with ATT or T-Mobile SIM cards?
Thanks in advance!
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Not true. It is unlocked, but it does not accept ATT or TMo SIMs. Foreign SIMs work, but only in foreign countries.
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Incorrect. The Verizon S5 accepts AT&T and T-Mobile SIMS just fine.
Back in the pre-LTE days, Verizon devices that had GSM capabilities were generally only usable on foreign GSM networks (AT&T and T-Mobile were locked out). That's no longer the case and hasn't been for a while now.
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Incorrect. The Verizon S5 accepts AT&T and T-Mobile SIMS just fine.
Back in the pre-LTE days, Verizon devices that had GSM capabilities were generally only usable on foreign GSM networks (AT&T and T-Mobile were locked out). That's no longer the case and hasn't been for a while now.
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OK - well - maybe my VZW S5 is broken in some way, but it won't pick up any signal when I put an active TMobile 4G-LTE SIM in it. It did work fine outside of the US in Australia. I posted a picture of what happens with the TMobile SIM in some other thread. No amount of playing with the APNs / network order / etc. made the TMo SIM work.
EDIT: Here's the pic with a TMobile SIM inserted:
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Even with no APNs you should be able to get signal...
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OK - well - maybe my VZW S5 is broken in some way, but it won't pick up any signal when I put an active TMobile 4G-LTE SIM in it. It did work fine outside of the US in Australia. I posted a picture of what happens with the TMobile SIM in some other thread. No amount of playing with the APNs / network order / etc. made the TMo SIM work.
EDIT: Here's the pic with a TMobile SIM inserted:
Even with no APNs you should be able to get signal...
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Here's my Verizon S5 on Verizon (for comparison's sake so you can see it is the same device):
And here's my Verizon S5 with an active T-Mobile SIM card inserted. It's picking up signal no problem, and that's without editing anything besides switching the phone to GSM/UMTS mode.
The Verizon S5 is unlocked and will work on AT&T and T-Mobile, just like essentially every other Verizon LTE device that has the appropriate GSM bands.
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Here's my Verizon S5 on Verizon (for comparison's sake so you can see it is the same device):
And here's my Verizon S5 with an active T-Mobile SIM card inserted. It's picking up signal no problem, including HSPA data. And that's without editing anything besides switching the phone to GSM/UMTS mode.
The Verizon S5 is unlocked and will work on AT&T and T-Mobile, just like essentially every other Verizon LTE device that has the appropriate GSM bands.
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How strange, how'd you get rid of the "This SIM is from an unknown source" notification?
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How strange, how'd you get rid of the "This SIM is from an unknown source" notification?
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Long press on the notification -> App Info -> Force stop. It has to be done every time the phone is restarted. I switch SIMs so often that I do it without thinking now as soon as the phone starts up. I can take another screenshot with the notification on the screen if needed.
I have to switch back and forth between Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T SIMs for work. I've done so for a couple years now, so it's something I have a lot of experience with regarding Verizon devices.
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Long press on the notification -> App Info -> Force stop. It has to be done every time the phone is restarted. I switch SIMs so often that I do it without thinking now as soon as the phone starts up. I can take another screenshot with the notification on the screen if needed.
I have to switch back and forth between Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T SIMs for work. I've done so for a couple years now, so it's something I have a lot of experience with regarding Verizon devices.
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Yeah, I knew you could do the long press thing on each reboot. Wonder why mine won't hop onto TMo. By any chance did you put your TMo/ATT sim in *before* you ever put in a VZW SIM? My phone came with the VZW SIM in it and pre-activated to my account, maybe it is locked somehow?
As for the original question in this thread - yes, "clean ESN" definitely still matters (although it's technically now the IMEI rather than an ESN).
In fact, it matters even more now than it used to. Previously, if you were talking about a Verizon phone, it only mattered for people wanting to use the phone on Verizon. But now there is a shared IMEI blacklist that Verizon is a part of, so a phone with a blacklisted IMEI on Verizon may not work on any major U.S. carrier.
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Cpudan80 said:
Yeah, I knew you could do the long press thing on each reboot. Wonder why mine won't hop onto TMo. By any chance did you put your TMo/ATT sim in *before* you ever put in a VZW SIM? My phone came with the VZW SIM in it and pre-activated to my account, maybe it is locked somehow?
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Nope. Activated it on Verizon first when it was brand new.
After starting the phone with the T-Mobile SIM inserted, did you make sure the phone was in Global or GSM/UMTS mode and then select T-Mobile under Settings -> More Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Network operators?
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As for the original question in this thread - yes, "clean ESN" definitely still matters (although it's technically now the IMEI rather than an ESN).
It used to be that it only mattered for people wanting to activate the phone on Verizon. But now there is a shared IMEI blacklist that Verizon is a part of, so a phone with a blacklisted IMEI on Verizon may not work on any major U.S. carrier.
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Nope. Activated it on Verizon first when it was brand new.
After starting the phone with the T-Mobile SIM inserted, did you make sure the phone was in Global or GSM/UMTS mode and then select T-Mobile under Settings -> More Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Network operators?
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I dont recall it ever finding TMobile in the network operator list. I did change it to GSM. I'll have to try it again.
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I dont recall it ever finding TMobile in the network operator list. I did change it to GSM. I'll have to try it again.
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If the SIM is active, T-Mobile should show up there. It can take a few minutes to show up sometimes, but it should show up eventually. If it's not showing up, there's a problem with the SIM or with the phone. Since you said the phone worked fine in Australia with a foreign SIM, I'd be inclined to think the problem would probably be with the T-Mobile SIM.
bsweetness said:
As for the original question in this thread - yes, "clean ESN" definitely still matters (although it's technically now the IMEI rather than an ESN).
In fact, it matters even more now than it used to. Previously, if you were talking about a Verizon phone, it only mattered for people wanting to use the phone on Verizon. But now there is a shared IMEI blacklist that Verizon is a part of, so a phone with a blacklisted IMEI on Verizon may not work on any major U.S. carrier.
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Nope. Activated it on Verizon first when it was brand new.
After starting the phone with the T-Mobile SIM inserted, did you make sure the phone was in Global or GSM/UMTS mode and then select T-Mobile under Settings -> More Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Network operators?
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I have the same problem, Verizon S5 with bad esn I brought of Craigslist very cheap to use with Tmobile, but mines has a circle in the task bar. I think the imei is blocked because I can take the sim out and pop it into my tmobile note 2 and everything is fine.
hey guys i got that exactly problem on my s5 verizon and i put a gsm of another carrier (viva) and show up that notification... for that signal work it (mobile data) with your SIM CARD you have to add your carrier APN in the settings>more networks>mobile network>access point names> and touch + and there will add your APN configuration and save it and done be sure you have your WI-FI OFF for show your 4G or H+ or Edge be in white color and enjoy it
the only issues i don't know how to remove the notification permanently

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