I know this is possible since HTC Managed to do it with their Large Start Bar and Quick Menu also has similar functionality.
What I would like is a program that would allow you to replace the start button with the ability to launch a specific program. I like SPB Mobile Shell and I want the SPB Menu attached to the start above.
Ideally like Quickmenu I would like two options. I would like a specific program to start when you press the start button and also a different program (or action) to run when you press and hold the start button.
Let me know if you would like to try and tackle this project!
Try WA3
Buy wisbar advanced then, it will do just that, but it cannot help with a drop down spb menu,
used WA for a while but it caused problems with my Touch. I don't want to run a full blown skinning program just to do this one feature.
if you mean the hardware button, you can use AEButtonPlus to do all that
No, I meant the soft start button on the top left hand corner of the screen.
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also a different program (or action) to run when you press and hold the start button!
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This can be done by Quickmenu already (activating an app by pressing and holding the soft start "button"), but I wonder how the system menu can be open if an assigned program being activated by a single tap of the "start"[email protected][email protected]??
Anyway, you might like to contact nanling, the author of quickmenu, to make your dream come true quicker^^" (check the quickmenu's thread in this forum and you'll find his website)
Changing button options and adding "press & hold" function can be dont with SPB Pocket Plus.
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iiiox said:
This can be done by Quickmenu already (activating an app by pressing and holding the soft start "button"), but I wonder how the system menu can be open if an assigned program being activated by a single tap of the "start"..@[email protected]??
Anyway, you might like to contact nanling, the author of quickmenu, to make your dream come true quicker^^" (check the quickmenu's thread in this forum and you'll find his website)
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I installed quickmenu and saw that you could change the options but I couldn't find a way to set it to a specific program. I also emailed nanling and didn't get a response. I also (unless I read the date wrong) see that he hasn't been online for quite some time.
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Changing button options and adding "press & hold" function can be dont with SPB Pocket Plus.
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You can't change the start button with SPB Pocket Plus.
bump it up!
nobody can do this?
anyone?!?!
I want to give someone money!
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What is the Jog Button program?
It seems to have installed itself on one of my hardware buttons and ocassionally scrolls through several functions when that button is pressed.
I know how to change the button assignment but am wondering if there is something about Jog Button that we will want to use?
JogButton was just a freeware app we liked which allows multiple functions to be controlled by a single button. Feel free to re-assign the apps using JogButton's 'Tools' menu, or to use the button for something else entirely.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
Do you know where I can find a help file for instructions for Jog Button?
I couldn't find it within the device and in playing with the program it just doesn't come to me.
JogButton Instructions
Fairly simple once you get the hang of it...
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button to activate JogButton. This causes the programs in its list to scroll/cycle
2. Release the contacts button when the icon of a program that you want to activate appears
Setup
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button
2. Click on the tools menu at bottom of screen
3. Select setup from the tools menu
4. The dialog that shows lists the programs and order of cycle.
5. Add/Delete/Edit as desired
6. The Snd check box is a toggle for sound/no-sound (a beep as each program is shown)
7. Duration is the number of milliseconds that an icon is shown
Hopefully that answers you questions
I'm the author...
Tek
Thanks for the reply. You are a genius!
This seems like a very handy app.
Joe_PDA
other buttons
What about using this very simple app on the calender button.
Have your "serious" stuff on one side,
then "toys" on the other..
I presume you have future plans, so give us a clue please
Perhaps even ask for ideas...
Martin
JogButton - Future Plans...
I started coding an alt-tab like feature into JogButton, but was not sure if that would be useful for anyone other than me. As you may know alt-tab in the Windows world scrolls you through the open list of of apps in a Last-in-first-out/Most Recently Used fashion. This would be useful for switching between two apps, the downside would be that you would have to remember the order. I was thinking of putting a toggle on either the menu or in the setup dialog to select this mode.
As for using two buttons, it is possible,but the way PocketPC handles the programs assigned to a button they have to have different names. I would of course have to make a few minor adjustments to allow for this, but it is possible.
I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
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I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
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Bug: by timing a quick press just right, I can get it in a mode where it keeps cycling through the programs even though I've released the button already.
I think I was unable to map it to both the hardware buttons using a different list of programs to cycle through for each button. Since a single short press still does the same thing, there's really no reason not to map it to the second button also. (?? Quick hack: map second button to patched Jogbutton2.exe, using different set of registry keys. Better: multiple small stubs which start the real exe telling it which stub was executed. ??)
Maybe map a special action to pressing both buttons at the same time?
Also, something like 'double-press' and 'triple-press' found in some other programs to quickly go to the second and third item (or completely different items) without looking at the phone would be handy. I never really use the rocker-switch, but it could be handy for app starting: just keep the hardware button pressed and hit one of the four directions or the center, giving you 5 new things (per hardware button) to start.
JogButton...
Good suggestions. I can enhance it to use all available buttons. I prefer to use one hand, but others might like to have more options available.
hmm, must be a n00b suggestion, but perhaps it would be possible to use the volume control button? i dont use it for anything anyway.
Only two options... that I know of...
On the XDA/MDA PPCPE there are only two mappable buttons, unlike other PPC that have four or five. It's either the contacts button or the calendar button. Now once an app is mapped to either button and the app is launched, it can control any of the buttons. As a side note, the volume button would be great if it were dual functioning: a press-and-release brings up the volume dialog; a press-and-hold would bring up the record function.
Noting that neither AEBPlus or DoubleLauncher seem able to access the OK and Win buttons, are there any other methods to assign an action to double or other states of these buttons? For example, it would be great if I could assign "close/kill" to a double OK click, or launch Resco Explorer with a double Win button click. Right now, only the Browser and Comm Manager buttons seem to be assignable, and press/hold for the Browser seems fixed to VueFlo. With AEBPlus, press/hold for the Comm Manager button shows up separately but can be assigned. I got really used to quick launch on my Wizard. I am finding iLauncher to be an OK sub in some measure, given that lots of icons can show on the VGA screen, but miss a quick double-tap to launch a frequently-used program...
yes same for me, if somebody have a way to map these keys ...
Why hasn't this ***hole been banned from the forum yet? Its been 27 posts of spam so far.
I've banned him and removed his messages. This my leave a "hole" where they used to be, so FYI to anyone else - ladysovereigna has been permanently banned for spamming.
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bebox said:
yes same for me, if somebody have a way to map these keys ...
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Back to topic... anyone have an idea??
I think it can be done, bit I've never had an Athena to test it on. Will give it a go one day. Will have to get a rom dump and see how things have changed on the newer hardware.
Have you tried all the usual suspects, ie AE Button Plus?
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I think it can be done, bit I've never had an Athena to test it on. Will give it a go one day. Will have to get a rom dump and see how things have changed on the newer hardware.
Have you tried all the usual suspects, ie AE Button Plus?
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No luck with AE Button Plus...
I haven't tried the Win-button, but I've mapped the Ok button to ViJayOKButt (much better ) using AEButton Plus.
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I haven't tried the Win-button, but I've mapped the Ok button to ViJayOKButt (much better ) using AEButton Plus.
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How were you able to do that? I don't see that button.
The Win-button can be displayed as an option (via Add Buttons menu). However, the new assignments don't seem to work.
The new assignment works. I select File -> Add Button, and click the OK-button. The code "4075" shows up, and I click the "Add Button" button p).
From my experience you can map the 'OK' button but mapping on this hardware key seems to be limited and no mapping to the 'Windows' key.
IRC the developers of AEbutton informed me that MS have reserved those buttons strictly for O/S use and that AE hadn't found a way around it yet...that was over a year ago, but it seems they have made no real progress in this area except for a little with the 'OK' button.
I believe Vijay is right though...it can be done...just takes someone really dedicated to finding the solution.
Bear in mind though that most PPC's have more buttons than the Athena...hence the reason why AE haven't 'possibly' done their best to resolve this, or maybe it causes to many problems..who knows?
I've done it before on other devices, some time back, but will have to investigate Athena at some point. Can anyone point me at a freely available rom file for it? I've never even seen the hardware..
pauvre V
Moskus said:
The new assignment works. I select File -> Add Button, and click the OK-button. The code "4075" shows up, and I click the "Add Button" button p).
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I tried this, and "OK" did not show as an option. But one of the other buttons I added ended up with code 4075, and this now works. There is also an option for "Win" button but that doesn't work at all.
i have both of mine binded using ae button plus
what you do is instead of trying to select the button you hit add button and push the button you would like to bind
vijay555 said:
I've done it before on other devices, some time back, but will have to investigate Athena at some point. Can anyone point me at a freely available rom file for it? I've never even seen the hardware..
pauvre V
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Hi Vijay.
Fellow member Antivirus has some good internal photos of the hardware and I think some other good info on the Ameo try this link. Antivirus.
lol, thanks mackaby007, but I don't need to see inside the device itself, just its rom. Although I would need to test on the device itself.
Anyway, just theoretical for now, need to see a rom.
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boinger66 said:
i have both of mine binded using ae button plus
what you do is instead of trying to select the button you hit add button and push the button you would like to bind
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So that's why I got such unpredictable results.. depended what I hit next. Hope this wasn't in the manual or user guide! I'd feel s-o-o-o foolish. Ha.
wgary said:
So that's why I got such unpredictable results.. depended what I hit next. Hope this wasn't in the manual or user guide! I'd feel s-o-o-o foolish. Ha.
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actually if u look in the ae button screen when u try to add a button it does say push the button u would like to bind I also got 4075 and for the win key its 405B
I have mine binded and working
I like HTC Task Manager's feature, that enables the Quick Menu when pressing the X-button. But I would like to acces the Quick Menu with a hardkey.
Does anybody know how that can be done?
Give SPB Pocket Plus a try.
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Give SPB Pocket Plus a try.
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Yes, SPB Pocket Plus has the taskmanager like the Quick Menu. But the reason why I like the one from HTC - is because it is finger friendly.
I have tried the Touch Commander Suite - it has a great task manager (quick menu). But it is not that consistent in its performance - and it keeps closing down - and the only way to get it back is with soft reset. :-(
I thought he meant how to assign a hardware button ... use the button feature from Pocket Plus was my suggestion NOT the task mgr.
actually just coming in my head... do you mean HTC Action Screen. This works perfect with Pocket plus (I have it on long press PTT on my AT&T Tilt).
tyguy said:
actually just coming in my head... do you mean HTC Action Screen. This works perfect with Pocket plus (I have it on long press PTT on my AT&T Tilt).
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No, I mean the Quick Menu that you can see on the attachment.
Yes, I'm thinking about this too considering that HTC Task Manager is only available on the Today Screen. It would be nice to be able to access it while in other applications. So, I guess a hardware key mapping is the best solution. Anybody?
Pocket Plus has an "Alt-Tab" function which can be mapped to a hardware key. It'll open a window and either with the stylus or scroll wheel you select the task, press OK (or press the scroll wheel) and you are there.
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No, I mean the Quick Menu that you can see on the attachment.
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If you only want to access that from today screen, HButton does a good job for that. I add the "OK/Close" function to one of the HButtons, and assign that to the "OK" button in the settings->buttons. This way I can use the "OK" button to close most of the running programs, and while in today screen, one hit on the "OK" button will bring up the list of programs in the picture you attached.
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Pocket Plus has an "Alt-Tab" function which can be mapped to a hardware key. It'll open a window and either with the stylus or scroll wheel you select the task, press OK (or press the scroll wheel) and you are there.
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The problem with the Alt-Tab function is, that you are not able to close one (or all) of the programs - like you can with the Quick menu
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If you only want to access that from today screen, HButton does a good job for that. I add the "OK/Close" function to one of the HButtons, and assign that to the "OK" button in the settings->buttons. This way I can use the "OK" button to close most of the running programs, and while in today screen, one hit on the "OK" button will bring up the list of programs in the picture you attached.
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Please explain. When I go under settings->buttons, I can only ad the "ok/close" function. Are you saying, that you also have an "ok" function, and when you map the ok function to a hardkey, then you have the list of the programs pop up on the today screen??
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Please explain. When I go under settings->buttons, I can only ad the "ok/close" function. Are you saying, that you also have an "ok" function, and when you map the ok function to a hardkey, then you have the list of the programs pop up on the today screen??
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You have to install HButton.
I use Handy Menu, not free though. 4.99 I think. It also gives you some other functions, and it is configurable. I have it mapped to long press camera button.
Quick Menu 2.7 does exactly that. All you have to do is tap the start menu. a list of programs running and an X to kill them.
Much quicker than looking for a way to edit taksmanager/Xbutton3(?)
Highly recomend it. I don't use anything else.
Also, you can cook it too:
Install the app; set up your options; export the registries; make a package from the cab (for dsm/rgu ); copy the contents of the reg export to the rgu using text editor. Package complete! now you can cook it and have your options be like you need them.... and there are so many!
PPCBANDIT said:
I like HTC Task Manager's feature, that enables the Quick Menu when pressing the X-button. But I would like to acces the Quick Menu with a hardkey.
Does anybody know how that can be done?
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found the solution already? i would also like the htc task popup into a HW button
rocho said:
found the solution already? i would also like the htc task popup into a HW button
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I did, thanks wearefree for the tip. Use HButton, its OK/Close button handling is different from OS, so it makes exactly what we need. I mapped HW button 2 on my Wizard to HButton and it simulates OK/Close. When any app is in front it minimizes it and when I'm on today it shows HTC Quick Menu.
Is there a way to change the behavior of the Start Menu Button? Basically i'd rather have it simply show the today screen rather than the actual menu. Alternatively i'd even prefer that it ignore the press and not show the menu. With many of us already having application launchers on the today screen, the start menu is redundant.
I apologize in advance if this is inappropriate for this forum.
To avoid not being able to access the start menu at all, you could enable it with a long key press of the start menu button.
Tap = return to Today Screen
Hold = show Start Menu
This would seem like a nice thing to have. Is such a thing possible? Perhaps with Mortscript?
What PDA do you have?
If you have a PDA/phone you just do a single press of the "hang up" button?
WM itself doesn't allow to change the start menu action. However, it's possible to put another app on top, like WisBar Advance, SKMenu, and similar tools do. But I don't know of any free and lightwight app which only replaces the start menu button.
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With many of us already having application launchers on the today screen, the start menu is redundant.
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I agree! Have searched this for a long time, but it seems it can't be done.
I would love if Visual Task Manager started when i press the windows icon.
Please return if you find a application to replace the start menu button. Thanks, i offer a kiss in payment
This program will do it. http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gspocketmagic-v1-32-19.html
Just that the icon becomes so ugly but i think it's worth it
How do you make the ok button close an app instead of minimising it?
The OK button doesn't close the map or minimize it :-s (if i'm right)
It's just a OK-button
but the X-button does close or minimze the app/window.
You can configure this somewhere in the Configuration of WinMo.
But default it is like this:
If you press the X-button shortly, it will minimize the app
If you hold the X-button, it will be closed.
Some apps does close, if you press x-button shortly..
So it depends on the app itself.
Hope I helped you a lil bit ^^
No i meant the physical button
I think you could do it using Spb PocketPlus. At least you can map the OK-Button to a function there. The current setting on my phone is "<Default>". There IS a function called "OK/Close" - which probably equals "<Default>". However, there is also a function "[Close]" which might work for you. However, I am not sure if this function became available through PocketPlus original installation or through the Shortcuts Addon (Which you can download for free). So I recommend you check out PocketPlus. You can try it for free. You should consider the fact that many windows as for example Settings require you to press the OK Button to save them, in these menues you would have to tap OK on the screen otherwise the Close-Function might Cancel the dialogue.
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I think you could do it using Spb PocketPlus. At least you can map the OK-Button to a function there. The current setting on my phone is "<Default>". There IS a function called "OK/Close" - which probably equals "<Default>". However, there is also a function "[Close]" which might work for you. However, I am not sure if this function became available through PocketPlus original installation or through the Shortcuts Addon (Which you can download for free). So I recommend you check out PocketPlus. You can try it for free. You should consider the fact that many windows as for example Settings require you to press the OK Button to save them, in these menues you would have to tap OK on the screen otherwise the Close-Function might Cancel the dialogue.
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ok thanks, right now the ok button has the same functionality as the red end call button, rather useless