Futre of WM6 - FlowFx ! - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Is there any dev that coud make something useful out of FlowFx ?
http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/developer/flowfx/index.html
and also here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOMrPz56OVo
This app is too cool just to leave it like that. Maybe CHAD could make something cool with it

Interesting. Hope to see future apps using these libraries.

appelton said:
Is there any dev that coud make something useful out of FlowFx ?
http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/developer/flowfx/index.html
and also here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOMrPz56OVo
This app is too cool just to leave it like that. Maybe CHAD could make something cool with it
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, I have seen the lib before, and almost used it in PM when I was building it with the .NET CF. If my memory serves me correctly though, this lib is strictly for the .NET CF, and can't be used in native C/C++ applications. Although, since I AM using native code, I think I could write those effects by hand .

I believe that pointui uses something similar to this

iamjfarrell said:
I believe that pointui uses something similar to this
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Nope, pointui uses PocketHal for all it's graphics, which means they most likely coded their animations from scratch. That also means, it would be inherently quicker that something like FlowFX.

Look great!

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[IDEA] Vista Flip 3D-like task manager

Who can make task manager that looks like Flip 3D from Vista using PocketCM Framework. It will be very useful
I don't think that it's too hard to make
Forget about Dynamo 2, it's ugly and not 3D
GVG said:
Who can make task manager that looks like Flip 3D from Vista using PocketCM Framework. It will be very useful
I don't think that it's too hard to make
Forget about Dynamo 2, it's ugly and not 3D
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Well can't you start, since you got the idea?
oh!
it's hard to code it using JavaScript
i started to make apps many times, i hate VS and C#
old Borland C++ Builder for life!
well if you use the search tool or go like 3 to 5 pages back... youll see a post that i have about dynamo2... its very similar... if you ask the original author, he might let you pick up where he left off... its an awesome program... it just needs to be lighter in weight, updated, added landscape support, less bugs, and added features... it sounds like a lot, but the program is already off to a great start and is very usable in the current state that its in
Michaelr219 said:
well if you use the search tool or go like 3 to 5 pages back... youll see a post that i have about dynamo2... its very similar... if you ask the original author, he might let you pick up where he left off... its an awesome program... it just needs to be lighter in weight, updated, added landscape support, less bugs, and added features... it sounds like a lot, but the program is already off to a great start and is very usable in the current state that its in
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Err, you should probably read someone's full post before chiding them about using a search tool, since he specifically mentioned he didn't like Dynamo 2 because it wasn't 3D. Plus it doesn't sound like he has a lot of experience with programming, so adding effects into Dynamo probably would help him much.
As an aside, do you know the author's email address? It'd be nice if we could get the source code for that.
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Err, you should probably read someone's full post before chiding them about using a search tool, since he specifically mentioned he didn't like Dynamo 2 because it wasn't 3D. Plus it doesn't sound like he has a lot of experience with programming, so adding effects into Dynamo probably would help him much.
As an aside, do you know the author's email address? It'd be nice if we could get the source code for that.
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i didnt see that he mentioned dynamo... but i wasnt chiding, i was merely directing him in the direction of my reference. theres enough ppl on xda who yell at the search challenged, thats never my aim. i like helping when i can. i just thought that the code itself might help a developer with the task of creating something vista like. im not sure the direct email address but the support email address is [email protected]...
although dynamo isnt 3d... it is still very fingerfriendly... maybe whoever takes on this task can set a preference option... 2d and 3d.
everyone who is interested in helping to notify the developer to continue work on this great app, please email him/her
i would like to see more work done on this.
im diggin the way sony is making thier little task manager, well i dont even know if it is a task manager or not yet, it might just be some application selection screen included with all the erricson bloatware:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/video-sony-ericssons-xperia-x1-panel-interface/
a task manager leik that one seems sweet thou. lol.. lot to ask thou.
TorxT3D said:
everyone who is interested in helping to notify the developer to continue work on this great app, please email him/her
i would like to see more work done on this.
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I would if I could find his actual email address. the [email protected] one seems to be dead.
Update: It looks like the website admin is trying to get marek (the author) to release the source to google code. Anyone willing to take a look at it and see if they can work on it for future improvements?
I think that dynamo isn't a good way to go - it's horribly slow (at least on my wizard). GVC's idea about using pocketCM framework might be better. Just imagine this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365656
as a task manager It looks great and what is more important - it's really fast, even on slower devices.
Also, since it seems to already be in 3D, achieving different thumbnail transitions (like flip3D) should be possible. However IMO flip3D effect is rather useless. I prefer to use a coverflow-like task switcher (and i do use it on my Ubuntu - looks like this).
mr_deimos said:
I think that dynamo isn't a good way to go - it's horribly slow (at least on my wizard). GVC's idea about using pocketCM framework might be better. Just imagine this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365656
as a task manager It looks great and what is more important - it's really fast, even on slower devices.
Also, since it seems to already be in 3D, achieving different thumbnail transitions (like flip3D) should be possible. However IMO flip3D effect is rather useless. I prefer to use a coverflow-like task switcher (and i do use it on my Ubuntu - looks like this).
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I would love to use something like this for a task manager. It could replace the Cube in touch flow (since I don't use that anyway).
Yes but unfortunately the PocketCM framework is not open-source, so unless you can get the author to creat that task manager for you, it;s wishful thinking.
Blowfish64 said:
Update: It looks like the website admin is trying to get marek (the author) to release the source to google code. Anyone willing to take a look at it and see if they can work on it for future improvements?
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Depends on the language, I use C#. I could probably port a small C++ app over (if I have time).
It would be really nice....
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Nexus One HomeScreen APK

has anyone got the Nexus One HomeScreen APK, I would love to try it out.
FireSokar said:
has anyone got the Nexus One HomeScreen APK, I would love to try it out.
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I did and it would NOT stop FC'ing I almost couldn't use my phone again
Same here. I tried and it kept FCing like crazy. I'm sure someone will fix it.
Simple. Its written for the hardware. It probably uses a backend. Any 3d stuff CAN"T be done in java. It's too slow. You need to write it in C or C++. They probably used the NDK to do so.
try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639662
M..N said:
try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639662
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Wouldn't install for me.
it shouldn't work unless you disable scence ui
otherwise it will keep force closing
but even then i'm not sure if the eris can handle it because it can't handle the live wallpapers and google earth
zifnab06 said:
Simple. Its written for the hardware. It probably uses a backend. Any 3d stuff CAN"T be done in java. It's too slow. You need to write it in C or C++. They probably used the NDK to do so.
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I challenge this, I did work for 3 years doing 3d visualization of optics problems (http://webtop.org). Now on the phone it is more challening but there are 3d games and such on the market that work reasonably well.
Most the the 3d games are running the NDK backend (developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/1.5_r1/index.html)
iloveandroid said:
I did and it would NOT stop FC'ing I almost couldn't use my phone again
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Can you please send the link to the nexus one apk? I would like to have a go at it. The other one posted above isnt the full version its a mod.
FireSokar said:
Can you please send the link to the nexus one apk? I would like to have a go at it. The other one posted above isnt the full version its a mod.
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Ya sure,
http://www.multiupload.com/JRU8E5ANR2
Also a video of it working on the Hero
http://www.youtube.com/tech0stickyasglue#p/u/1/cx8LeYBg5uM
(BTW there is no 3D scroll, sorry)
same thing, fc'ing. gee golly
until we figure out the reason .. i recommend using either PandaHome and/or GDE they both have great renditions of the Nexus.

moved on

imagine has been put off until the official sprint n1 is released.
thanks to those of you who have supported
screw the ones who haven't : -)
(reaction ui) playing off htc you dont need to get a phone but a phone that gets you
reaction
Lol. I love how that will always be the first post on this thread. Good idea, I love it. Its definatly topping Mesmer. Are you interested?
Any takers?
where
are the devs at?!
yea if you think about it everyone deep downs wants a UI that reacts when they use it plain and simple...btw im in
i can code apps (3 in market) and widgets
Using Google Wave to collaborate on this project would work rather well.
sleejay said:
i can code apps (3 in market) and widgets
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Can you make widget as advanced as the Sense UI's? Also, as imaginative and as nice looking?
aauussttiinn88 said:
yea if you think about it everyone deep downs wants a UI that reacts when they use it plain and simple...btw im in
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What ar3e your areas os expertise?
I was just thinking about this earlier. It would also be awesome if someone was ever able to completely create a new OS. Haha,
rjj1976 said:
Using Google Wave to collaborate on this project would work rather well.
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Thanks for the suggestion...researching wave now, only skimmed, but it seems like this might be the next step, once we get the team together.
Any suggestions as far as the UI?
minorsecond said:
I was just thinking about this earlier. It would also be awesome if someone was ever able to completely create a new OS. Haha,
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Thanks. Want to get in on it?
My skills are rather limited but if there is anything that I can do I'll do it.
minorsecond said:
My skills are rather limited but if there is anything that I can do I'll do it.
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What are your skills limited to
How can we get some attention on this thread?
sinistermeshes said:
How can we get some attention on this thread?
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Put the [ROM] tag in front of the title, lol.
I'm limited in that I have no coding skill other than visual basic.
minorsecond said:
Put the [ROM] tag in front of the title, lol.
I'm limited in that I have no coding skill other than visual basic.
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Define visual basic?
Would the rom tag be cheating?
sinistermeshes said:
Define visual basic?
Would the rom tag be cheating?
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Yeah I wouldn't put the ROM tag on there, I was just kidding about that.
Visual Basic
It might help to offer a quick description of what related skills you are bringing to the table. Not being rude just a suggestion. It might also help avoid the 60 or so post in this thread asking that very question.
minorsecond said:
Yeah I wouldn't put the ROM tag on there, I was just kidding about that.
Visual Basic
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Interesting. How do you think you can use VB to better this UI? Widgets...the overall layout of the home screens? Specifics kind sir
And just for the record, being VB fluent is hardly limited

[Q] How difficult is it to code a launcher replacement?

I have a great idea for a replacement launcher, but I have no previous coding experience. How difficult would it be for a first time coder to build a launcher?
And if it's going to be ridiculously hard to do, and you'd like to hear the idea, feel free to message me, you may be able to help!
There is an example launcher from old android versions in the SDK.
You could start by taking a look at that.
if you have no coding experience, it's going to be very hard
I've done a year and a half of a software engineering degree and I'm currently working on the android development team at Broadcom as a coop work term. I probably wouldn't want to start trying to write a launcher(unless it was just a few modifications on the stock launcher) so I couldn't even imagine trying to do it without any coding experience. I'm not trying to say that I'm a master programmer (very far from it) but I certainly have more than zero experience.
I've looked at it myself and it seems rather difficult, however, perhaps there's a tutorial or guide somewhere that might help out?
gnargle said:
I have a great idea for a replacement launcher, but I have no previous coding experience. How difficult would it be for a first time coder to build a launcher?
And if it's going to be ridiculously hard to do, and you'd like to hear the idea, feel free to message me, you may be able to help!
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Lots (years) of fundamentals to learn first .....
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digitalcoder said:
Lots (years) of fundamentals to learn first .....
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Oh, not fun. Guess it's just a pipe-dream, then.
gnargle said:
Oh, not fun. Guess it's just a pipe-dream, then.
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You never know how hard it is unless you try.
Take a look at the SDK examples, there is a basic launcher.

IPA to APK

can someone of the developers make a converter.
IPA to APK converter, something like the PSXperia tool.
Doesn't work, ipa is iPhone and apk is Android
Posts like this remind me of when Super Nintendo came out and all these parents were freaking out on the evening news that their kids would want it and it wasn't fair... and that they should make an "adapter" so that the old NES system could play the new games. LOL
This has got to be the stupidest question I have ever seen on XDA.
Agreed
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PaulForde said:
This has got to be the stupidest question I have ever seen on XDA.
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More so than this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370549
I like IPA... But I also like APK.
But which one's better ?
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There's only one way to find out......
DeadlyDazza said:
I like IPA... But I also like APK.
But which one's better ?
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There's only one way to find out......
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whats that? u have me wondering now...
Lmao
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Wow...
You guys need to calm down. It's just a question. You don't need to make him look like an idiot, you look like an idiot when calling him one. Just sayin.
Anyway, sorry, its not that easy. I wish it was that easy and often wondered the same thing at times.
Excpet the guy who ask the question your all idiota since devlopers are working on this just havent said whsts going on for a while it can be done just takes so much work
lyricalchaos said:
Excpet the guy who ask the question your all idiota since devlopers are working on this just havent said whsts going on for a while it can be done just takes so much work
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Developers are working on what? An .ipa to .apk converter? Lmfao Android uses java. Its not even the same language as the iPhone
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Rofl the other one is funnier lol can my xplay be 3d
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lyricalchaos said:
Excpet the guy who ask the question your all idiota since devlopers are working on this just havent said whsts going on for a while it can be done just takes so much work
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Spoken by someone who has never written a program in his life.
The logistics of this requires human interaction. Android programs are written in a COMPLETELY different language than iOS programs. While both programming languages can produce the same results, and obviously use the same graphics data and stuff like that, a human programmer must make that conversion as how they get to that end result is completely different.
No developers are working on this. Its a waste of time.
Question: if I remember properly, Android uses a virtual machine, called Dalvik, to run Java code. Could Dalvik actually run Objective C (iOS language) code somehow?
Logseman said:
Question: if I remember properly, Android uses a virtual machine, called Dalvik, to run Java code. Could Dalvik actually run Objective C (iOS language) code somehow?
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programs that are coded in C run natively they dont run in a VM like android apps. Thats why its possible to use android apps on other platforms (providing they have the dalvik VM) like the blackberry playbook but you couldn't do that the other way around.
Logseman said:
Question: if I remember properly, Android uses a virtual machine, called Dalvik, to run Java code. Could Dalvik actually run Objective C (iOS language) code somehow?
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The Dalvik VM is just a Java VM right?
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I remember reading somewhere that it doesn't actually run Java code by itself...
AndroHero said:
The Dalvik VM is just a Java VM right?
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I remember reading somewhere that it doesn't actually run Java code by itself...
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No its not just a Java VM and actually works quite differently than a normal Java VM. A regular Java VM works almost like an Emulator within the device running it. The Dalvik VM actually takes the program and uses its own class libraries, it converts some of the java files when its compiled into its own format. This saves space and memory usage, due to the programs obviously needing to be run on devices with limited memory.
The Android SDK also has an ungodly huge amount of libraries within it as well withe specific code design to do basically anything.
have an idea ask Google to try and create android to read IPA or other formats then android will be the best as developers will want to create games, apps and other things and make life easier for everyone as it will be like this in left hand iphone in right hand Samsung galaxy s2 really good android phone which will you pick me i would go for the Samsung as it's better as i have one but if it could run IPA. Iphone will probably unexistant just saying but it's best to ask google. for more easier methods to create games and apps just like ipa is really easy to create apps

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