For those of you who may know what I'm talking about, have you ever used PointUI's device lock?
Don't you just want that on your Windows Mobile? It's very sleek and fast. To me? I think it's way better than the S2U2.
I was hoping if anyone was able to take that part of PointUI's program with their permission (of course), and be able to make it into a cab or something so that we could put that into our own device without having to install the whole PointUI program to use it.
I think that may be a good idea, but I was hoping to hear others opinions on this subject and wondering if this idea was possible.
Anyways, have fun around the forums!
IMO, S2U2 is way better than PointUI's screen lock interpretation. Its not perfect yet 97% there (hence the 0.97 version number) =)
But if you like something sleek and fast there is a Mini S2U here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357415
onlock is much better than Mini S2U if you want something light.
Yeah, I liked S2U2, but then it sometimes the program turns blank and since I know where the slider is I was still able to unlock my phone. Thank goodness. Another problem I had is the landscape mode. Once I put my phone in landscape mode and the phone is locked, the same blank screen happens. That's why I uninstalled.
I also have tried the MiniU2, but it bothers me because its so plain even if it doesn't take up much memory. Theres no time or anything on there and from the time I installed it, the slider does not retract when you don't slide it all the way. It just stayed at the same position.
Despite all of this, I really liked hearing your opinions. Thank you!
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I dont know if you all are familiar with this program, but its really cool... very simple to some, but adds some flare to any pocket pc. The only problem is that its flawed. The development of this project is done I think and its sad, cause it was almost perfect.
For those that dont know, It is a program that allows you to assign a backlight/display off animation to any button except the power button (which I found a fix for)
However, there are three problems... one... the program is a little bit laggy at times... two... when you do the fix to map it to a power button, it will only shut the display off and will take quite a few pushes of the power button to come back on. Three... it doesnt mesh well with s2u2.
Now, ive looked around and cant seem to find anything else remotely close to it, so I was hoping for suggestions. I mean, Ive read a few threads on here talking about ideas for a newer better interface than anything out there... Well, maybe im a simpleton... but the aesthetics are one of my favorite things about a phone. ie- the cube (even though i rarely use it) emulators on my phone (even though all i play is pacman ) etc... I guess what im hoping is that someone can either finish this nearly perfect app or make a better one... unless one already exists that i dont know about
if you have any ideas, comments, tips, please let me know... and sorry if this title was misleading...
I have been trying to work on something that will enable some sort of Haptic feed back on my XV6800. The Haptic feed back is a feature that enables vibration to the screen when you press on the screen. Such as the Voyager.
I dont intend to try and make this just to work with the XV6800 but for ALL HTC Touch Screen Devices and if it can others too.
There is a feature on my phone and on many others that allows our phones to play a sound when the screen is taped. I thought of an idea of why not replace the sound with vibration?
There is already a CAB out there that changes the dial tone into a vibration feedback ( when you press the dial buttons ) but it doesnt do much for the rest of the applications or screen.
So far I have been working on this for a couple of days but havent had much time to put much effort into it.
I was hoping that some developers / hackers can help out the cause and help develope or create a feature that enables this on ALL HTC Touch Screen Devices.
If I do find a way to do this I'll post my findings here, but any help to make this a reality would be gladly appreciated.
I was just reading about this very thing HERE: http://www.immersion.com/vt/haptics-for-mobile.php
I was wondering if somebody was going to give it a try. Good luck with it, BOO
it has already been done, and someone posted it up on these forums a while ago, probably buried extremely deeply by now... i forgot the name but i just know it's out there and although it worked, i quickly worried about battery life/hardware issues, so i uninstalled. i'll try to find it for you
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I was just reading about this very thing HERE: http://www.immersion.com/vt/haptics-for-mobile.php
I was wondering if somebody was going to give it a try. Good luck with it, BOO
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Thank you. I am hoping that we can get this done.
I mean we are constantly trying to make our touch screen devices finger friendly. We enlarge buttons, the creation of Touch FLO and the Cube, enlarging menus and so on.
My theory is why not combine all these I deas with Haptic feedback and make it even more finger friendly and try to limit the use of the stylus. If made possible this would be able to work on any HTC Touch screen device or any WM Touch screen device out there.
This would also help users that have a hard time inputing anything into their phone. For example, some one trying to make a text message through t9 or even less then that just pressing on the screen to access a short cut with out having to pound their touch screen until it inputs that they are trying to press. This would help with that because it will acknowledge the input that was made.
Just an Idea
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it has already been done, and someone posted it up on these forums a while ago, probably buried extremely deeply by now... i forgot the name but i just know it's out there and although it worked, i quickly worried about battery life/hardware issues, so i uninstalled. i'll try to find it for you
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If this has been made possible for the entire touch screen and all applications including the standard OS please inform me of this find. I would gladly appreciate it.
yeah it was an application that ran in the background (maybe as a service, i don't remember), but every single tap created a vibrate feedback. argh i just looked around for it and i have no idea where to find it. it was in some thread, someone's reply had the app attached to it. something about how he knew someone who was working on it, and waited for that person's permission to post the app here on xda-dev. sigh.
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yeah it was an application that ran in the background (maybe as a service, i don't remember), but every single tap created a vibrate feedback. argh i just looked around for it and i have no idea where to find it. it was in some thread, someone's reply had the app attached to it. something about how he knew someone who was working on it, and waited for that person's permission to post the app here on xda-dev. sigh.
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Interesting. If it has been done already I wonder if we can replicate it and put it on this thread. That is if you dont find the link to the page or the program it self.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354890&highlight=Vibrate&page=2
Around post #15. I do not know if it works or not..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354890&highlight=Vibrate&page=2
Around post #15. I do not know if it works or not..
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Thanks this is a good find.
Ill see if i can make it available using another method. Because they reported that it worked on every other tap of the screen and that it runs the battery down faster too.
What I might try to do is have mine work but have the option to disable it ( like the way you do when you disable screen tap sounds) to save battery power.
[email protected]$ said:
Thanks this is a good find.
Ill see if i can make it available using another method. Because they reported that it worked on every other tap of the screen and that it runs the battery down faster.
What I might try to do is have mine work but have the option to disable it ( like the way you do when you disable screen tap sounds) to save battery power.
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Hay [email protected]$
True like u said, i've tried it 2, but it do not respond to every fingertouch, if u can figur a way for an app that will respond 2 every touch even the small ones (where u don'nt need 2 hold for a sek before it regonise and verb.).. that will be really great
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Hay [email protected]$
True like u said, i've tried it 2, but it do not respond to every fingertouch, if u can figur a way for an app that will respond 2 every touch even the small ones (where u don'nt need 2 hold for a sek before it regonise and verb.).. that will be really great
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So far I have planned some steps on ways to do it through the registry but it is not perfect. I am not an expert programmer but I can give it a shot, but it might take a while since I am not as great as the experts here in XDA.
But I'll do what I can. If I do find a solution I will post it here, but any help to make this project possible would be great.
I would be happy if my phone would just vibrate on keyboard input.
I am running this older vibro cab. Works very well however...
The vibration lasts aslong as your finger has contact on the screen. It would be better if it just gave a quick blip of vibro each touch maybe?
When you slide a cube etc it virbos the whole movement.
MM
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I am running this older vibro cab. Works very well however...
The vibration lasts aslong as your finger has contact on the screen. It would be better if it just gave a quick blip of vibro each touch maybe?
When you slide a cube etc it virbos the whole movement.
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Do you happen to have the CAB with you? Maybe I can find a way to change the effect this program does when you press the screen and lower the vibration feed back.
If I can do that then I can maybe create some registry settings to make the same effect but just replacing the sound that is emulated when you tap the screen. That way you can disable it or enable it when you want it. ( In case you need to save battery or something )
The length of the vibration should be shorter, other than that it's a really good tool.
wow i must be stupid. i just posted a thread about this yesterday. anyway, it'd be cool if we could figure out a way to just incorporate it into the registry, probly wouldn't use as much battary and stuff then.
This has been done already on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354890&page=2. On the second page, Kpyto posted a download link for it. I haven't tested it yet though so I can't tell you how well it works.
hows this coming along?
I tried the VOA program mentioned above, but i don't really like it - it's simply annoying by vibrating all the time when scrolling trough lists, or attempting to bring up a tap-and-hold context menu. Not to mention additional battery drain caused by the motor running for such long periods of time.
For me, much better screen tap confirmation is a very short vibra pulse - i often use Vibrate(50) as a confirmation in my mortscripts. That's only 50 milliseconds, but it' enough to be clearly felt, and since the motor is powered only for such short time, it causes almost no additional battery drain. I'd really love to see an application creating such confirmation instead of the screen tap sound.
I'd just like it to have customizable vibration time - since the minimal time needed to make vibration even noticeable can probably vary from device to device, and play nice with fTouchFlo - since both capture touchscreen events there are probably possible conflicts.
Good luck with the development. I hope you'll be able to realize this great idea
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I tried the VOA program mentioned above, but i don't really like it - it's simply annoying by vibrating all the time when scrolling trough lists, or attempting to bring up a tap-and-hold context menu. Not to mention additional battery drain caused by the motor running for such long periods of time.
For me, much better screen tap confirmation is a very short vibra pulse - i often use Vibrate(50) as a confirmation in my mortscripts. That's only 50 milliseconds, but it' enough to be clearly felt, and since the motor is powered only for such short time, it causes almost no additional battery drain. I'd really love to see an application creating such confirmation instead of the screen tap sound.
I'd just like it to have customizable vibration time - since the minimal time needed to make vibration even noticeable can probably vary from device to device, and play nice with fTouchFlo - since both capture touchscreen events there are probably possible conflicts.
Good luck with the development. I hope you'll be able to realize this great idea
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Lets hope some one makes this. isn't there anyone on these forums with great programing skills?
Just like the title implies I'm trying to figure out if the what seems like a rigorous process is worth it in the end? I had the spb mobile shell 2.0 for the trial time and I'm infatuated with it. I want something that changes my screen and options to look different just like it did, and touch-it seems like the best way to go. I've tried that iPhone look alike thing and that didn't appeal to me very much. My only grief with this is that Touch-IT looks like it requires alot of work in order to have it set up and I go through this kind of process enough with my psp if you know what I mean. I just want to know if it worth it basically, I dont know how to back up everything I have on my phone at the moment so that is also a big factor in keeping me from doing it. Any other applications out there that change the phone as much as spb mobile or the Touch-IT? If not some opinions on how great the program is please. Thanks and sorry for the long post. Btw I have a T-mobile wing if that matters.
Yes, totally worth it.
I've always been a huge fan of ITJE's work.
I don't know what you mean by it takes so long to set up. From flashing, to having a working phone takes 10-15 min...
It seemed long to me while I tried it because there was another program I needed that said would erase everything on my phone and I spent forever trying to find a way to back up my calendar, msgs and a bunch of other stuff on my phone. I still have yet to know how to safely back everything up too. It just really felt like alot because there seems to be some other application that's the bases of all this and I dont even know much about it.
The WM6.1 Touch roms are worth it. The Touch part of the ROM seems like a waste of space IMO so I disabled it.
As Dave said above, it doesn't take long to install the new rom.
I have never personally used the Touch It roms but have used Open Touch. I am extremely happy with it and would reccomend it to anyone looking to improve their performance and looks.
I broke down and deleted everything and got the touch, i do like it but so many things weird me out about it... Do you have a link for the open touch please? I'd like to see what its like.
I'm looking for a slide-to-unlock solution for my X1. It should NOT come with any additional features (as S2U2 unfortunately does). I don't need to lock it for incoming calls, my phone software does this by itself. I only need an app which will lock the device on wakeup so I have to slide to unlock. Nothing more and nothing less. The best thing would be a Today-plugin.
One more question: If such a software does not exist, how hard would it be to create one? I am an experienced programmer in VB, JavaScript and PHP, so I don't think I would have to learn a lot. The question is just whether the process of locking/unlocking the phone and capturing the wakup-event etc. is actually easy to program. I don't want to write more than 50 lines of code for this and it has to work very well with that. Do you think this is possible?
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I'm looking for a slide-to-unlock solution for my X1. It should NOT come with any additional features (as S2U2 unfortunately does). I don't need to lock it for incoming calls, my phone software does this by itself. I only need an app which will lock the device on wakeup so I have to slide to unlock. Nothing more and nothing less. The best thing would be a Today-plugin.
One more question: If such a software does not exist, how hard would it be to create one? I am an experienced programmer in VB, JavaScript and PHP, so I don't think I would have to learn a lot. The question is just whether the process of locking/unlocking the phone and capturing the wakup-event etc. is actually easy to program. I don't want to write more than 50 lines of code for this and it has to work very well with that. Do you think this is possible?
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As I don't know how screen slides are registered, I'm not 100% sure, but I can't imagine it'd need more than 100 lines.
Things you have to keep in mind that it has to be full-screen, always on top, locking hardware buttons as well etc.
If you manage to get this to work, I'd be very much obliged, as I'm looking for the exact same thing!
My advice: Make it semi-transparant and add an easy to modify image (png) that tells you to slide, which turns from red to green when you're set and then disappears.
I recommend making it fullscreen slide, the way lockmelite does, but then with the image added.
Nice to know that I'm not the only one looking for it
So you would propose a transparent fullscreen app? I would prefer using the Windows-lock, but I think once it's in, the only way to unlock is through the standard procedure. Can anyone confirm this? What other ways are there to lock the touchscreen? Is there a way to keep a transparent windows always on top? And an easy function to lock the hw-keys? Would you just set up a sort of hook and don't pass the keypress event? Is there a way to ensure that the event will not be passed on to other apps such as AEButtons? I really need some serious information on this before I start reading tutorials and organizing compilers etc.
simple screen lock that works
I came across this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419525
Works well, I had to set "on call unlolck" and switch of it's "slide to answer" function to prevent issues with my current ROM.
works a charm on my X1 using TouchIT 4.5 !
tried a few others out, but all had one or another issue. For more, search for "screen lock" in main forum search.
(edit) although free needs simple monthly renewal of registration keygen
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I came across this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419525
Works well, I had to set "on call unlolck" and switch of it's "slide to answer" function to prevent issues with my current ROM.
works a charm on my X1 using TouchIT 4.5 !
tried a few others out, but all had one or another issue. For more, search for "screen lock" in main forum search.
(edit) although free needs simple monthly renewal of registration keygen
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Yeah, first monthly registration sucks and I don't like the software. I've had it installed twice and I'm not satisfied (R2A ROM though). Performance is bad, many mismatches because of this. Application always comes in to protect, for example at boot - but it's completely useless because you can blast it away if you know enough to install it in the first place. deifnitely a no-go for me.
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One more question: If such a software does not exist, how hard would it be to create one? I am an experienced programmer in VB, JavaScript and PHP, so I don't think I would have to learn a lot. The question is just whether the process of locking/unlocking the phone and capturing the wakup-event etc. is actually easy to program. I don't want to write more than 50 lines of code for this and it has to work very well with that. Do you think this is possible?
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I think it might be alot harder then you imagine. Programming in PHP is very, very easy. The best option is probably try to find one of the eary s2u2 cabs. Maybe A_C has some tips for you
For Dev... MSDN may have the answer
If you are looking for examples of how to program the slide yourself, there's a good sample on codeproject:
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/IPhoneUI.aspx
It's written in C#.NET but if you can program VB.NET you should be able to read through and vaguely understand what's going on.
The sample is an iPhone clone UI, not just the slide-to-unlock bit and I think the sample is QVGA. Either way, its better than having to work it all out from scratch ;o)
I've been meaning to write something similar but unfortunately life isn't giving up the time at the moment. If I get around to it I'll post it on XDA for everyone else to enjoy!
Have you tried PocketShield?
http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm
I liked it ..
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Have you tried PocketShield?
http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm
I liked it ..
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Damn, this program is nice!
I always have problems with S2U2 because it's slow, often incoming calls messes the screen so I'm not able to answer and sometimes the color depth of the screen changes to approx. 5 colors after unlocking and only a softreset helps.
PocketShield seems to be cut to the essential: locking and unlocking.
I'll try it a bit more
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Have you tried PocketShield?
http://www.pocketshield.net/download.htm
I liked it ..
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Does it work well with X1 ?
It works very well ..
here's one that I REALLY like, nice and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478606
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Does it work well with X1 ?
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It does, but with not all of its features. PocketShield has 3 essential ways to unlock: light, slide and gestures.
X1 does not have a G-sensor, so gestures unlock won’t be available.
It does has a light sensor but apparently it is very difficult for 3rd apps to access it, so light unlock will neither be available.
Only “slide to unlock” will work. And due to this a special deal has been made for the Xperia community… You might be interested: http://www.pocketshield.net/Xperia
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It does, but with not all of its features. PocketShield has 3 essential ways to unlock: light, slide and gestures.
X1 does not have a G-sensor, so gestures unlock won’t be available.
It does has a light sensor but apparently it is very difficult for 3rd apps to access it, so light unlock will neither be available.
Only “slide to unlock” will work. And due to this a special deal has been made for the Xperia community… You might be interested: http://www.pocketshield.net/Xperia
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I'm gonna check this out! Sounds good... Thanks!
So...basicaly-I have nearly decided to jump to WP7 for good.Im good with the battery life,i like the minimalistic feel and tile idea of the whole UI and there is one thing that i have cursed since the release...the nasty plain simple call screen ...with white letters on a black background ...or vice versa.Personaly i want to f**k up the screen with a knife,then run it over by a bus and then throw it in the sea all because that stupid layout.So my question is-What could be done with this issue?Could it be done like iPhone's green tinted while on call ,red while ending and with full screen contact picture?I have not,and can not look up trough the dump of the rom and couldnt know the structure and encription (if any).Because i just dont have the place and time to do it as im in constant movement due to my job.
This is just a discussion thread.I just want to know if this is managable.And maybe one day if it recieves enough views it may be done...
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Don't think it can be done - WP7 is rather more locked down than WM6.5.X and if it is done at all, I doubt it will be soon.
Personally I don't have a problem with it...it's a call screen
Agree, things sometimes get a little too minimalistic for my own taste.
However, as time goes by, more and more tweaks will come. Just observe Mr. Schaps´s work a bit (creator of TouchXPerience tools and mods), amazing stuff...
The thing is how hard because the PS3 was impenetrable,hack proof and things...look at it nowDont get me wrong i really like the option to change the style,speed,UI and feel of my device at will.And i may be asking for too much but for a person that is being noticed by strangers as a phone addict...the screen shows itself too much for me to bear Its interesting to hear other people's opinios on the matter as its one of the things that boogles me alot in the smarth-superphone world!
Also-do you know about an App like that for android where you can set your contact picture to appear full screen ?
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If the executables aren't obfuscated, isn't it possible to dissemble the .net applications so we can modify the call screen?
Even so, I think the problem will be allowing the executable to be patched...
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If the executables aren't obfuscated, isn't it possible to dissemble the .net applications so we can modify the call screen?
Even so, I think the problem will be allowing the executable to be patched...
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Pretty sure that`s impossible, we`re talking about Microsoft...
I just realised how many different defences they could have put in that OS.I tought making it would be easy...and it is but reaching the point where all defences are broken is where it will get nasty...but i dont know if such defences even exist ...