Bluetooth GPS (TomTom) and audio streamed via Bluetooth device in car - possible? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I currently use a Holux Bluetooth GPS device with TomTom on my Vario, which works fine. I connect the phone's headphone socket into my old car stereo via a cassette adaptor for both music and TomTom speach, and I use the inline mike in the adaptor cable for handsfree phone calls. It all works fine.
However, my new car will have a CD player only (no cassette) so I was thinking of getting a little Bluetooth audio receiver to cut down on the cables and transfer the audio wirelessly from the phone to a box plugged into the new car radio's AUX input. Will both Bluetooth devices work simultaneously, so I can have TomTom using its bluetooth GPS module at the same time as the phone outputting audio to the other bluetooth device?
And what about handsfree use, is there anything that will allow me to also use the same bluetooth setup as a handsfree device, as I'll no longer have any microphone in the cable, since there won't be a cable...!
I know what I want to do, just not sure how to do it. Thanks for any help folks.
Andre

Any thoughts on this anyone?
I tried it out in a shop using a Sony car radio with Bluetooth support, and it played MP3s fine using PocketMusic once I'd paired the devices. The Sony's ">>" and "<<" keys even selected next/previous tracks perfectly.
However as soon as I started TomTom (v6), the audio only came from the phone's built-in speakers. Even after then exiting TomTom and restarting PocketMusic, the sound still came from the built-in speakers only.
So, any thoughts on how to get TomTom's voices to play via the car stereo using Bluetooth A2DP?
Andre

Not sure about this - I tried on my Wizard with WM5 to have two BT devices simultaneously. Holux 236 GPSlim and Jabre 620s results in extreme skipping. Maybe tuning down the data rate for the BT-Audio could do the trick, which I haven't tried yet.

Fm transmitter
Get a Fm transmitter plugs into the headphone socket and you can tune your car radio to pick up the signal i use one get one on flybay for £5

Hmm, maybe I should just upgrade to a Vario III (Kaiser) which has GPS built in? Or just stick with the old-fashioned solution of a 3.5mm jack cable.
Andre

If I understand the question right (if not sorry), you're wanting to run 2 different bluetooth devices at once but can't. If so it's the radio. My moms Acura TL allows multiples devices (my phone and hers). But my 2011 Forte wont. I paired my Ipod touch and my phone and if I'm playing music the phone wont work. I have to change devices on the cars audio system.

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can i connect my universal to my car stereo ?

hi, i was wondering if there is a wat to connect my wizard to my car stereo and play mp3's from wy wizard stored on memory card but play them using my car speakers setting my radio to AUX ? is is possible..i hope you all got what i mean cos i am not sure myself if i know what i mean cheers, cudo
I use a Sony Adapter Casette. Just plug it in the Universal and play the casette on your car and it will work fine. There are other options too like wireless stuff. But I prefer this method better, at least I don't have to worry about signal being obscured.
and what if i dont have casettee i got only cd ??
If you only have CD and no casette, you only either use BT or FM transmitter.
I used to use casette adapter but now I have a car stereo with AUX input.
If you also want to be able to receive calls you would need to have an adapter with a mic as a normal audio plug when plugged into the Universal will disable the internal mic and only carry over the output audio.
See this link, we discuss about the correct adapter for Universal in the lower part. I should receive one in this week and will post the result later once I verify its working fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54823
Which PPC are you using, Wizard or Universal? You subject title is about Universal but your message body is asking about Wizard.
They have different size of audio plugs.
sorry i wasnt very specific...i am asking about unicersal, i am using both of them hence the mistake. sorry about that
Good news. I received the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and it works with the Universal!
I have tested all functions with my Universal:
- Stereo audio output is carried perfectly to the car stereo, no noise whatsoever.
- Microphone is working great, my voice can be heard clearly.
- The call receive button on the unit is working ok too to receive/pick up incoming call.
This is a great audio adapter (in addition to the fact its a handsfree unit).
I find its a lot better way to connect the Universal to the car audio system rather than using other method like BT.
As most car mounting solutions do not include audio adapter to connect the Universal to the car audio system, the PQTAA is a perfect solution.
If you have a cassete player, you can combine it with the casette adapter. If you have an AUX input in your car stereo, thats the best.
For pictures, see this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54823

Anyone using their Titan as an MP3 player in the car?

I found out I can put rhapsody tracks on the SD card on my Titan (XV6800) so I've been using it as my car MP3 player. Problem is when it's plugged into the charger I get some noise (the phone is connected to my car using an aux port.) My question is does anyone use a similar setup, and if so what do you use as your charger? Right now I'm using a cig port to USB thing. I could probably reroute the ground, but I'd rather not deal with the mess of wires.
is this capable?
ca3sar said:
is this capable?
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?? Are you asking how I have my phone as my MP3 player?
You need something like this. I have that connected to the 2.5mm/USB splitter that comes with the phone, then there's a 3.5mm lead that goes from that connector to my car stereo's aux input.
Considering there's a mic on the adapter, it doubles as a handsfree kit so when a call comes in, the music pauses and I can hear the caller through my stereo.
Pioneer Avic D3
I have the Pioneer Avic D3x in my car with the bluetooth module. I just installed it. I had to install a plugin on the mogul called a Jet something and it connected fine with my audio in the car. I can listen to my radio station SuperRadioMix.com and it mutes out when someone calls. The station streams perfectly to my mogul phone. This may sound like a advertising for my radio station....and it is. . Just to let you know you can do it.
C-Zer
DJ C-Zer said:
I have the Pioneer Avic D3x in my car with the bluetooth module. I just installed it. I had to install a plugin on the mogul called a Jet something and it connected fine with my audio in the car. I can listen to my radio station SuperRadioMix.com and it mutes out when someone calls. The station streams perfectly to my mogul phone. This may sound like a advertising for my radio station....and it is. . Just to let you know you can do it.
C-Zer
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Oh yea, blutooth would solve the problem because it's most likely related to the common ground, however I already have a rather nice Eclipse head, so I'm not looking to replace it. I am looking around for blutooth adapters though.
That noise you're hearing is a ground loop. The only way to get rid of it is to use some kind of ground loop noise isolator, like this one:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Q56nh4BU3tR/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=127SNI135
I use Mortplayer on my Titan for MP3's as well as streaming radio. It works really good!
Coodaddy
i had a mini usb to 3.5 adapter but didnt work, i have verizon? any possible links?
ca3sar said:
i had a mini usb to 3.5 adapter but didnt work, i have verizon? any possible links?
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This is exactly what I'm using. You can find it on Verizon's site, you might also be able to find it in the store.
Thanks coodaddy1, I figured that was the next step. I thought about running a ground from the cig lighter to the chassis to see if it eliminated the hum.
I am using the usb/2.5 splitter that came with the phone with a 2.5-3.5 splitter i got a radio shack, all that connected to my stereo line in. Works like a charm.
propagandax said:
I am using the usb/2.5 splitter that came with the phone with a 2.5-3.5 splitter i got a radio shack, all that connected to my stereo line in. Works like a charm.
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I found that the 2.5-3.5 doesn't have the correct amount of posts and you will need to eventually pull out the tip to get full stereo (are you sure you are getting stereo sound rather than mono out of both speakers- all left or all right)?
If that works, cool!
This is what you need - Car Dock with Audio out
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=881
NICE
I have ordered from these guys before - very high quality
I use mine for that all the time. I have one of those bracketron mounting clips that clip to your vent and I use the included headphone adapter and the usb splitter (becuase it wont charge unless you connect the power to the usb splitter). I connect a mini usb cable to a usb adapter in the charger socket. To connect to the radio on my ford focus I have a digital adapter that lets me use standard rca jack input to the digital port on the back of the factory radio (works with any any audio source)
To connect to the 2.5mm headset adapter,I have a cable I made by chopping the end of a old 2.5mm handsfree headset and soldering a standard 3.5mm headset socket to it. You should be able to buy a similar adapter from any vendor on the web. The headset that the moguls included adapter wants is the standard four conductor one that most multimedia cell phones like the samsung a920 use. (I originally used the cable I made with a samsung) The only problems I have had is that vibration from driving sometimes jiggles the mini usb loose from the phone and you have to plug it in again. I guess I could route the cable over the top of the bracket to hold it in place to solve the problem,in fact,Ill try that tomorrow.
One other problem I have had is tomtom as it has no internal media player. I was using it for gps functionality,but other than the fact that it is missing all sorts of key information on my area,like points of interest that it really should have,its very difficult to switch out of it and control media player. That means that while you can start your music and then launch the gps program you are then stuck with whatever your play list is and cant control media player. Other than that it does work well and the voice comes through fine. I switched to Garmins gps software and it works great. It does not even need to have some other app initialize the gps like tomtom does. It does not have an internal media player either,but at least its a little easier to switch out of.
im running a bt headset with a miniplug straight into my aux input in my car. works well enough to stream music and mp3s

Play music via your TP on your car Radio

Found this on feabay today, think it is a very nice idea, and very cheap
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-FM-TRANSM...14&_trkparms=72:1300|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Regards
Rich
Ever Tried it??
I Read the page and it kind of looks weird.. it says the charger does not charge the phone just the transmitter.. Also it lacks a picture of the appropriate connector..
Just wondering if anybody else has tried it?
I have ordered one, and will let you know when it arrives
I would say it does power the handset too, and the connector is Mini USB.
I have one and with the Pro it has a bug to activate the voicelabel when i play my MP3's
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It seems that you could get it caught in a feeback loop if you have the FM radio set to listen to the station that you are trying to transmit on.
Wonder what it would do?...hmmm.
ktwildchild said:
It seems that you could get it caught in a feeback loop if you have the FM radio set to listen to the station that you are trying to transmit on.
Wonder what it would do?...hmmm.
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Well since you need headphones plugged in or the FM radio won't work, I don't think you could find out!
The Motorola T505 is really nice, though a little pricey. Its basically a bluetooth speakerphone with an FM transmitter.
So your music and calls use BT A2DP, then the T505 broadcasts that over an FM station. It'll even pick the best station and tell you to tune to it. If you're listening to music and a call comes in, it'll pause the music announce the number, and if you answer it, it'll play the call over your car speakers (like OnStar).
I've used it on a 5+ hour trip and never had to charge it, I forgot how long the battery is rated for.
In my car i´ve a CD Changer Radio without a cd changer connected. Those radios have a connection possibility (the normal connector to the changer) at the rear, where you can connect a cable which ends in a 2,5 mm (we call it "klinkenstecker", i dont know the english word). So you can buy an adapter from USB to 2,5 mm "klinke", and your TP gives great sound, in my opinion its better than the car radio ... The manufactor of the connector is called HAMA
Greetz
Boris
P.S.: sorry for my bad english
Phone music through car stereo plus a lot more using iTech Stereo clip
I wrote a similar post a few montsh back (almost a year) in the Tilt section.
a very nifty way is getting a A2DP stereo BT headset connected to the car.
Easy as 1-2-3 if you have a car stereo with either AUX or so called iPod input (eeek). Most of these inputs are either in the center console or armrest storage compartment.
How to Step-1 (Music and Navi):
Get a cheap but good working BT headset with std. headphone out (3.5mm). I use an iTech clip 35 for example.
Get a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable, if you want to have handsfree at the same time get a LONG cable.
Connect iTech with AUX through cable
Start BT and activate A2DP profile (also known as stereo headset in some devices).
Start BT and AudioManager at phone and enjoy music through your car stereo.
Since A2DP will route ALL output to the BT device and therefore AUX input of your car you may listen to your voice navigation as well. Cool thing Tilt and Raphael will play music while Navi is active and mute music for Navi directions and come back...to music.
How to Step-2 (Music, Navi, Handsfree):
If you use a long 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable you can route the cable and iTech clip somewhere near your head (visor) or even behind the little grid MOST cars have meanwhile regardless if they are equipped with a handsfree BT option or not (take a look at the overhead light and consult with a good shop manual in most cases there is enough space).
Mount the clip and - voila - here is your handsfree.
Hint, if you permanently install the iTech clip extend the charging cable and use a cigarette lighter with USB port to charge.
why not use the cab bt to head phones. and mount the ptt funtion to turn on the app to forward the audio to your bt car system then no wires
Agreed but BTAudio and BTToggle messes with the phone, so how do you pick up a call?
FMTalk unit suffers from alternator whine interference
Jimllfixit said:
Found this on feabay today, think it is a very nice idea, and very cheap
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-FM-TRANSM...14&_trkparms=72:1300|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Regards
Rich
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I had my PURE Highway In-Car DAB Digital Radio FM Transmitter stolen which I mainly used to transmit my TP MP3's to the car radio and needed a replacement.
So I bought a FMTalk unit for use in my 3 year old Renault Laguna but it picks up alternator whine interference and crackles too.
I tried these too but had the same whine
Belkin TuneCast II
Sendai XM800 FM Transmitter
In the end I got a Griffin iTrip Auto Universal Plus which works a treat at a reasonable price although it doesn't have the phone talk function like the more pricey Motorola T505 or Parrot MK6100.
The main point was that the FMTalk unit suffers from alternator whine interference

[Resolved] Question re car stereo, aux and bluetooth

I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.
Jock said:
I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.
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What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo? Tricking the car into thinking its actually engaged in a call so it plays music. Might have to be something done on the phone side to transmit the music as a call and then when you receive a call the music stops and you can answer the call and when the call ends music resumes? Just a thought i dont know if it is possible at all. But you bring up a really good idea.
ptyindian said:
What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo?
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Thanks for the thought, but the stereo doesn't accept bluetooth streams - it simply just has the ability to act as a hands free device.
Any more thoughts anyone? (Although someone has just posted about a device that looks intriguing with AUX and power in)
It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.
mattyman said:
It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?
Sorry. My bad. You are right, I did misread your post.
Jock said:
Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?
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the answer is yes. that is what i do daily.
i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
all you need to do is answer the call using the answer button on your bt headset and not your phone.
in some phones, if you will press the send key on the phone and not the bt headset, the call will transfer to the phone instead of the bt headset.
hope i was able to help.
shlomki said:
i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
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Thank you.
Do you think it matters that you're using headphones rather than a headset? I'm just wondering, since you refer to headphones, if the lack of speaker in your wired device means the call will hand over to the BT device - this will allow me to work out what I need to buy.
hmm i think since your aux input wont really have a mic attached it should hand over the call to the bluetooth headset from what the other person is saying.
Hi, I don't know if this will apply to your stereo setup but I thought I would let you know my setup anyway.
I use the HTC multifunction audio cable http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=171925 which lets me charge my phone via a car charger and use the 3.5mm audio output to the stereos aux input at the same time - all of which are in center armrest compartment.
I use bluetooth connection to the factory installed bluetooth prep (BMW 3-Series). When a call comes in the TP pauses the audio and the BT phone then takes over. When the call ends the TP un-pauses the audio
I just installed a Blaupunkt MP57 on Sunday and did exactly what you're describing. Phone connected via aux playing music, answer or make calls via bluetooth on the stereo and the music pauses then restarts when the call is ended.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-bluetooth-audio-v1-0.html
http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbToggleBT/acbToggleBT-Free--3.html
Both can send all outgoing audio from your WM device via BT headset channel instead of A2DP. It's not advanced audio but it will let you play audio over the headset BT channel. Sound can be tweaked using SRS WOW HD.
ExtUSB is just a port which will enable playing MP3 tracks on for example USB drive? Why not put your connection in USB mode then?
I'm not sure if this will help you, but I bought a Motorola Bluetooth Car Kit. I don't have the "phone" feature built into my car Stereo, so I used the external amplified speaker and mic for "phone" functions. The Car Kit has an Aux Out, with I feed into my car stereo. When I get into the car, the Bluetooth initiates two separate "connections". One for the "phone" and one for the "MP3 Player". You can have either one or both. The music plays through the car stereo (via the Aux Input) and phone calls play the the external Car Kit Speaker. It is like having two independent bluetooth "channels". When I have Voice Commander enabled, it communicates through the "phone" channel, i.e., the Car Kit mic and external speaker. That is also where my incoming email is announced through. My Garmin GPS "speaks" through the Aux out and the Car Stereo though. I'm not sure how these routes are selected. Personally, I would prefer that the GPS also communicated through the "phone" channel, that way if I am listening to the Radio, or Sirius, or a CD (not on AUX-IN), I would still here the GPS voice guidance. I'm not sure if that can be changed or not.
Hope this helps.
I do this all the time. USB to 3.5mm stereo to Pioneer head unit and calls come in over the BT
Thanks all for the input.
Just bought a Brando adaptor:
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=126&products_id=1502
Tested it and Copilot and Music run from the Aux out. Bluetooth hand over perfectly. As an aside, I find WMP is a better MP3 player, simply because I can reduce the volume in the software, but leave Copilot to use the system volume at a slightly higher level so the voice doesn't get lost (the HTC player doesn't seem to have the same capability).
Could have bought the HTC branded device from the same place, but the main lead from the Ext USB is slightly longer and more inflexible so wouldn't easily fit under my car holder.
BTW, since I live close to the shop (plus I love instant gratification as opposed to mail order), I visited the Inkino shop in London. I must say that the staff were very knowledgeable and helpful and the shop has a huge range of HTC accessories (including a branded battery and extended battery for my Universal, which I am planning to resurrect). Not sure about the prices vs ebay, but for the bricks and mortar approach in the UK, where it is difficult to find anything HTC - 1st class!

Universal as bluetooth speaker

In short:
I have a short-range car radio transmitter onto which I can plug USB memory key, SD card, or an audio jack.
I connected it with the audio jack to my JASJAR which is mounted on a windshield. in this way I can listen to internet radio via 3G while on the road, listen to GPS commands from my car speakers and....I would like to use jasjar as a bluetooth speaker to render is trully a carputer.
I was wondering if it is possible to route my other cell phone's calls (nokia 5600s) to the JASJAR's bluetooth?
found the solution (sort of)
I found on ebay a bluetooth fm radio transmitter that can also be connected with an audio jack to jasjar. that way the telephone will suspend music and I have a bluetooth car speaker that is charged from the cigarette lighter
in any case, if anyone can tell me if you can use jasjar as a bluetooth speaker via software, I would appreciate it

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