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I think I have a fairly unmodded phone...
Its still not unlocked, no rom changes, etc.
I just have programs like: PocketWeather, iLauncher and TomTom with a few simple additions like the new program that auto disconnects data after a preset time.
Well it seems very random, but when I fire off things like TOMTOM it just hangs, but not every time.
Not many. Generally speaking, when I'm having issues, it's my fault. But I do have issues with my OK button periodically disappearing, and sometimes non-responsiveness of some apps.
But, it's very rare. I usually do a soft reset every couple of days when something even remotely starts to act up.
Same with mine. I use the latest i-mate WWE ROM and find it stable.
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my OK button periodically disappearing
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Do you use Magic Button?
Nope. That's what's weird about it. I'll push the OK button on the front, but the app will still be up, and the OK button will disappear on the screen. I can usually get back to the Today screen by pushing the end call button though.
mine is now very stable. There is another thread that lists the "best" things to do to stop the periodic freezing. My 2c worth is on that thread also
I use Mortsaver to lock and close the device when i'm not using it. I think this results in a very stable device. It will wake up for SMS alerts and calls but for the rest of the time it's asleep - except when you are actively using it of course.
I also use SPB Backup at 05:00 in the morning which performs a soft reset after the backup. This keeps it clean too.
Defragging the Storage card and keeping as many apps as you can off the storage card also helps.
btw I use Magic Button
I only asked about Magic Button since I've noticed that the close button disappears sometimes in "Program Manager". It comes back again with a simple tap on the window background.
See thats the odd thing.... someone else told me to try and keep my unit's memory as clear as possible to avoid possible lockups.
Is the general consensus that its the other way around?
I have the vast majority of my applications saved on my storage card, granted I have tons of space on it.
I do experience frequent annoyances when using mine.
- screen alignment sometimes acting up (will send it back, but I'm waiting for the firmware update to be released, so they can do it together)
- mediaplayer occasionally loses the storage card (solved by deleting MSMETADATA on the card)
- occasional refusal to use an existing gprs/umts (have to disconnect and reconnect)
- vpn shutting down too fast when using it with wifi (after 30s)
- activesync sometimes doesn't recognize the device, forcing me to rename it and perform a whole new sync
- occasional difficulty in connecting to the correct wifi network (e.g. when there are 4 available, it pops up a couple of times that it has a network, but the one I always connect to is the last one to be found)
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I have been using it for about a month now (was already sent back twice for keyboard and screen issues), and had to perform 3 hard resets as the behaviour got worse. I really like the device, but I wish there were less issues.
Jörg
After seeing the specs of the Hermes, I wanted it immediately.
Last week I finally bit the bullet, sold my Wizard (Cingular 8125) and got the Hermes.
For the most part, they are the same device, with the addition of 3G and a supposedly faster processor in the Hermes.
The Wizard was about as stable as a Windows Mobile device could be, at least in my opinion. I really didn't do much outrageous with it. I had a couple of games, TomTom 6, a dialer skin, and Good Mobile Messaging installed. I'd have to reset it maybe once a week or so, sometimes less than that because TomTom would lose connection to the GPS and nothing would get it back save for a reboot.
I took my Cingular 8525 (Hermes) out of the box, and I was really impressed by the device. The keyboard is far superior even though it's only a little different. I like the styling of the Hermes better, as well as the nice gunmetal finish. Download speeds are incredible (almost 900K in my house), and setting up Good Mobile Messaging OTA only took about 5 minutes vs. 20 on the Wizard.
The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset. Sometimes the phone will shut off the display and trying to turn the power back on does nothing and requires a reset. Sometimes the phone will show remnants of windows that were recently closed and that will require either opening up other programs to clear them, or a reset. Then there's the just plain ol' freeze. Not to mention that plugging in my car charger barely ever activates the charging circuit on the phone
I've had this phone for about 6 days now and I have to reboot it AT LEAST twice a day, sometimes three or four. AT LEAST. This is wholly unacceptable. If we weren't on the cusp of a firmware upgrade that is rumored to rectify most of the problems above, I'd be selling this and maybe getting a Treo 750 or a BlackJack.
I've had so many little issues like this with my Tytn, using both standard and latest roms, that I've simply decided to sell it. Its just not a great phone or a pda, although it has all the features you could ever dream of, it just never seems like its fast enough and the software just doesn't seem all that polished.
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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Regarding the stuck on caps problem: if you select caps using the onscreen keyboard, then the physical keyboard is also put into caps. It is however not possible to turn this caps-lock off in using the physical keyboard. The solution is to open the onscreen keyboard, and turn it off there.
Jörg
8125 versus Hermes
I agree with you that the 8125 Wizard was more stable than the Hermes. I had one as well, and it would go weeks without resets or freezes.
You said:
" The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset."
I believe this is due to the external storage becoming lost. Since WM5 doesn't expect storage to ever go away, it just freezes waiting on the storage to come back. In the case of the start menu, I think it's waiting so it can get the icons of recently used programs. Just a theory.
To fight this problem, I've loaded weather programs and the like into main memory so that external storage is only accessed when I'm playing with the phone. That's made my hermes a lot more reliable, down to a failure or freeze every few days. Not as good as the Wizard, but tolerable.
I'm having a TON of problems...
I have my Cingular 8525 HTC
ROM Version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio Version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.53.7018.01H
I am having horrible problems with it randomly locking up, and I have to soft-reset. This usually happens when I have it on the charger overnight, and someone text messages me while it's on the charger... and of course when I soft-reset I lose all the messages! What's even worse is when it boots back up it'll vibrate, and beep for a long time like it's getting messages and I have to just ignore it and put it on silent... but there are no messages! Is there a way to fix this? What do I do?! I'm starting to get very frustrated with the phone - the only thing I use repeatedly on here is the MS ActiveSync over the air...
Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
marisa4755 said:
Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
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This is an interesting idea. I will leave the messaging minimized overnight tonight. The password screen is there as a matter of policy - through my work - since the company owns the device and they push policy to it which requires a password PIN to be entered after 15min of inactivity... I'll try that?
Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
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2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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when i have this issue i click the ok button on the side and then it startss to work again without soft-reset.
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Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
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Are you sure that the sounds are messages rather than notifications?
It could be that your notifications queue is gummed up with lots of stuff. Suggest you get Memmaid or similar, download the trial and run the notifications queue duplicates remover. Then look at any of the entries marked Calendar and check to see if any of these are in the past. If they are remove them. LEAVE ALONE any notifications that are not Calendar with a description of one of your appointments or reminders.
Worth a try.
I also had some troubles. It freezes anywhere between 2 and 20 times per day. I just did a hard reset few days ago and tried to determine if any of my programs installed causes it.
It runs quiet well with nothing installed. Most freezes i get after installing SBSH WeatherMonitor.
About the sudden loss of external memory, i cannot complain. I install everything system related into the main memory. But weather and flexmail are on the card. I even take the card out having the phone running.
Not probs there.
Generally my Blue Angel is a far better phone, although bulky like my grand mother and not useful in Japan.
Thanks for the replies. After reading through this thread it seems I am not the only one with problems. Nearly every 8525 problem I've had can be solved, they just keep coming back. Like 8525 not recognizing Storage Card music. The worst for me ( happens a lot ) is that when I put the phone on the charger, then the screen shuts off to save power, but when I take the charger out the screen cannot be turned back on and needs a soft reset.
I've had my unlocked Cingular 8525 for about 3-4 months now, and never really had a problem with it. At first it worked great, but recently more and more when i have it open to text and then close it the screen would get garbled and messed up, easy fix of just hittin the end call button a few times and it would clear right up. Well friday my phone apparently decides it has had enough of me.. It froze up. So as a fix all on my part i just ripped the battery out and put it back in, worked fine for a few seconds then froze again. So i thought maybe it was because i had so many text on my phone (over 8000 in my inbox and around 7300 in my outbox), so i started deleting all of those. After doing all that it continued to freeze and lock up in the middle of doing things. It has been doing it since friday morning now, and i have no idea what to do to fix it. It had all the original 8525 rom and os and everything on it, i just flashed to Windows Mobile VI - Black Edition 3.0.1 a few hours ago, and it worked perfectly...for like 45 minutes. Then it went right back to freezing all the time, when it freezes it doesnt have to be in standby, i could be writing a text, or clicking through a menu, or changing a setting, ANYTHING. I love the phone but idk what made it start doing this, i didnt change a single setting and i have never uploaded any programs or anything, just the stock progs from cingular and i uploaded a few ringtones. I have read that it could be the storage card, but it seems odd that it would just start doing it after the card i have has been in for months now (Sandisk2.0G). Idk what it could be, im at a loss..
ok guess my phone is just jacked then...
My old Alpine used to freeze up with TomTom (before they patched it to 5.21) because of the SD card problem, but I don't think it's related to the problem you're having.
It sounds more to me like a hardware problem - do you get any other symptoms exhibited by the handset when you get the freezing issue, or does it just happen without any warning?
Have you tried installing something like acbTaskMan to monitor your CPU usage and maybe log to a file to see if there's any excessive CPU usage before a freeze?
Hi Guys,
I'm new here, but have been following and reading these forums for quite some time now. Great Stuff!
anyhow, my problem, recently purchased a HTC P3600i PRO. Put a custom ROM on it, seemed to be running great over the last few weeks, but my problem is this. Now and then my phone pda will lock up and I'm forced to reset it. What happens is, I am still unsure as to why this happens, but lately it's started freezing up, and when I click on my start button, it shows my menu, and then when I click programs, it shows as "empty" when I know there's nothing empty, it's filled with stuff, randomly this happens to my settings window as well. Basically stuff randomly dissapears from my start menu, shortly after, 5 to 10 seconds, it locks up. The next thing I do or click on after seeing things disappearing from my menu, it freezes. I then have to do a soft reset, and after doing a soft reset, it's as if it's done a hard reset and wants me to re-configure the time, click on all 4 corners, etc.. I use have to use SPB Backup to do a full restore of my phone/settings/contacts/software etc..
Can anyone help?
Also, just to update.. I restored my phone with a backup today, and it seems to be running well again for some strange reason. Is it because it's overheating? getting hot or what? I'm not sure what it's doing. Please help
Figured it out
My backlight whilst on battery was set to brightest. figured it was overheating as it felt warm too.. I turned it right down to 3 bars from lowest, and it's fine now
Guess it my screen and battery were getting quite hot and the CPU was overheating. All resolved.
I got a HTC p3600 for about 10 months. i used to have the backlight set to minimum.
now i update my rom and it got crashes so often, almost every day, and I need soft restart the device all the time when get crash.
The worse, sometime my display picture just broken + crash, and I need more than once to restart the pda. When I restart the device sometime the display just turn black color moving from top to bottom, or sometime with colourfull dots on screen, and the device does not want to be restart.
In that case i take the battery to turn off the device.
Sometimes i need to wait some minutes until i can restart normally the system.
It usually crashes when it is connected to the computer via usb (charging the battery) and i need to use it. (i check and it is very hot)
Also, when i use wifi it tends to crash (very hot too)
Since i upgrade the rom my backlight settings are set higher...i reduce the backlight, to reduce heat and test the system stability, but i really think it is crashing due to overheating.
Just wondering if anyone else out there has similar problems with the occasional Freeze on there HD2. Mine occurs maybe once every few days.
I am running Xanny's Evolution 1.4 but have had the problem with other roms.
Radio 2.0.8 with 576mb hack
Seems to be when I am coming out of file explorer (Other Apps as well) into the Sense Homescreen I get the freeze. Symptons
Title bar still shows previous app (eg, File Explorer)
Screen otherwise is 100% sense.
5% clock time change (Eg just starting)
Weather animation just starting.
I only have installed
DST Time Patch (Live in West Australia)
Core Player 1.3.6
TomTom
File Explorer Ext
Phone Log.
Radio still seems to be working. Eg pressing a button will light up buttons and they turn off after x seconds.
Ringing the phone doesn't send it to message bank. It just rings out. My phone does nothing to indicate incoming call.
First test was to flash a factory rom first (1.4.3). Froze about a day latter.
I then performed an MTTY. Again froze about 2 days latter.
Current test I have disabled weather animation. Has not crashed since. Been 5 days.
My HD2 freezes to, running LynxEX 1.3 WWE, radio 2.08.50. I installed the
Rom in 01.03.2010, everything was OK for a few days until yesterday when it started to froze more and more often.
Radio is working but I can not answer because the screen and buttons are not responding.
I am still going with out a freeze. Disabled weather animation and seems good. Will leave it another week.
Due to it seeming to be caused when redrawing the Sense homepage and multiple animations I took a punt.
When does yours freeze?
Welcome to windows mobile!
Its a common thing, no need to worry.
If you have apps installed on your SD card then try to end them normally i.e. from the app itself, if you use a task manager to kill it it may leave corrupted files on the SD card which may also freeze the phone.
Waiting for Android.........................
Mine never freezes!
Mine hangs 40% of the time after unlocking the screen.....
Official 1.66 ROM UK
It happends when I try to do something fast, after I unlock the screen, or use coreplayer. So i uninstaled coreplayer, until now it works !!! ???
Now i miss coreplayer and would try to skip the automat screen locker.
I am a long time Win mobile users.
Gone from Polaris, HD and now HD2
This freeze is quite specific. Just on the homepage.
Anyway, Its been a week now and still no freezes. Looks like it was a combination of multiple animations causing a conflict.
I get various other cases of it slowly grinding to a halt then responding very very slowly. Eg 30 secs for an unlock. Usually core player.
Also, no need to install to SD card. Heaps of room on internal.
It seemed to freeze when coming out of File Explorer. Might have been an issue introduced with the File Explorer Extension addon??
Mine freezes from time to time, but always on screen lock.
lock is unresponsive, do a reset (battery removal)
then sense only responds to the left portion of the screen, several resets later it will come back to normal.
anyone else seen this ?
Freeze
Mine also would freeze every once in awhile? I turned off weather for other cities, has not froze for, this is 3rd day? Wierd?
I've noticed a few 'freezes' on the 'unlock' screen as well. I think it has to do with the phone searching for a network; when it locks it was switching from
3G to H or to G.
Just to register another user with freeze issues. 1.66 Stock WWE Rom with whichever radio is bundled with it.
I haven't had an issue in the 4-5 weeks I've had the phone until I decided to give Twitter a go using the HTC Peep application. I then got 3 or 4 freezes in 24 hours. Uninstalled Peep from the Sense slide tabs and later on that day installed moTweets, again keeping it memory resident and automatically checking for tweets once an hour. It froze again last night.
Now I'm (fully) closing moTweets every time I've finished with it, and so far no freezes. It's only been 14-15 hours but we'll see.
Zef.
I keep getting problems myself on my TMOUS. The phone has frozen over 6 times in the past 2 days I've owned it. Its quite annoying. Everything is stock. No custom roms or anything. I've reset it to factory settings 3 times.
Might have tracked it down
Mine seems it may be related to File Explorer.
Coming out of or exiting file explorer. Also crashes if fire explorer is running and plug a usb cable in.
Running file explorer extensions. Might be the cause.
Mine started freezing for no apparent reason a few days ago.
Using a custom rom for months with no problems then all of a sudden freezes.
Tried some different roms and they all seem to do it now.
Only way is a hard reset for me, soft reset it freezes too.
Personally I'm thinking its a hardware fault seeing how it was a sudden occurance and doesnt matter which rom image is on there.
Unless its a radio problem, not tried changing that yet.
Was it while doing a certain thing?
Start taking note of what you were just doing then post. IT might help shed some light.
Mine was getting to twice a day. I then noted what was installed and changed my behaviour. And it started crashing less.
Also change the SD card. Noted a thread where the SD card is related to strange behaviour. Make sure the temp one gets a full format.
Best idea is to run your phone as minimally as possible (Software and app's for as long as possible. Slowly introduce behaviour and applications and note when it starts to become unstable.
Okay happened about 5 times today, each time it was while trying to recieve or make a call.
Text messaging is fine, internet sharing is fine, only while making calls
radio 2.06.51.07 i actually thought i had put 2.08 on a while back so going to change to 2.07 or 2.08 and see if that works.
updated to radio 2.07 and reflashed energy rom. dont hold out much luck.
seems to get stuck still on soft reset. so has to be hard reset everytime
oh and thats with no apps loaded
lets disable the whole phone... and cross ur fingers for someone out there who can save this phone from windows... period.. stop saying i disable this and it works better now. disable that and seems pretty good now, BS. u know is BS.. have all those problems.. i still dont understand how people still buying HD2!!!! omg... .
think i have found one of my problems
incompatable radio to rom image
or failing that trying the reformat Task 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657113&highlight=soft+reset
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think i have found one of my problems
incompatable radio to rom image
or failing that trying the reformat Task 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657113&highlight=soft+reset
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lol.... whateva.
Not sure if this is a problem with the phone or some settings i'm missing. I bought the phone 2 weeks ago so i think there is still time to get a replacement but i was wondering if anyone has seen this problem before.
The stock weather widget that is on the home screen by default does not refresh the weather sometimes. If you manually click on the refresh sign from the home screen, it shows it trying to refresh but nothing changes. Same happens if you open the app and refresh from there.
I have data turned on, sync, gps, etc. Nothing i can see that would be stopping it.
The problem is fixed if i reboot the phone. If the phone has been up for about 6-7 hours it still does the refresh just fine. If its been up for 30+ hours the problem above starts happening.
I have another S4 as well, have not been able to catch if the same thing happens with it, but a side by side comparison of "status" and all the apps running is identical and where my phone fails to update the weather (up time over 30 hours) this other one works just fine (up time 5 hours).
The only difference between the 2 is that my phone is rooted.
Happened with my s2. Not my s4
I think i was able to narrow it down and i'm starting to think there is nothing wrong here.
Clearing cache/data on the app also brings it back so no need to re-start. But the failed refresh seems to happen when i'm not able to get a GPS signal. (would be nice if it actually dont you this with an error pop up or something) Still need to try it a few more times but im 95% certain its timing out if it cant lock on GPS. It only seems to happen inside.
The other phone was working even without GPS turned on, which i thought was odd.I later found that it was not displaying current city, but instead was just configured to display the city i happened to be in.