The incoming calls are directed to the voicemails.
Is it possible that the phone automatically switch from the data to the voice?
keihei3 said:
The incoming calls are directed to the voicemails.
Is it possible that the phone automatically switch from the data to the voice?
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If you are in EVDO coverage, the phone will maintain your data connection while you receive the phone call over 1X, then resume your data connection when the call is complete. AFAIK, if you are in roaming or 1X coverage only, there is no way to automatically kill the data connection to receive the call.
1X is always shown in the topbar.
But I can set the mode of operation to EVDO only. Then I can use EVDO mode. Don't know why, but the real speed of EVDO is slower than 1X in my area, around 130kbps. But I cannot receive any calls in EVDO. Don't know if there is a way to solve the problem.
Thanks alot. I understand that my city is not covered by EVDO after checking http://www.sprint.com/business/products/products/evdoEnterZip.jsp .
Hey guys, I am not sure if I am missing something in the settings or what, but for some reason, when i am talking on the phone I cannot connect to the internet. My HSDPA connection turns off. Once I hang up, it reconnects. I thought the X1 was capable of doing simultaneous voice and data connects. What causes this? And is there a way to enable both voice and data connects at the same time? Thanks!
boy I explain this a lot
simultaneous voice and data have been available since the first gprs phone
it was the reason gprs was invented rather then dialup data over gsm
but if the operators hardware in the centrals don't support it no phone or setting
can change that
i'be been doing in on my old himalaya gprs phone for ages
and now on my x1 never had any problems
Well, I can do it on my old 3G phone, but not on my X1a. AT&T has allowed this for years, I know that. I just want to know if there is a way I might have accidentally turned it off or something.
Mine won't do it either. My Xperia kicks on the Wifi and continues PUSH email delivery through when ever I have the phone in use. BUT, my blackberry and iPhone would both not allow voice and data at once. It may have to do with T-mobile's settings where I am though.
I have the same issue with T-MO network.
you mean like talking on the phone and continuing surfing the net?
leobox1 said:
you mean like talking on the phone and continuing surfing the net?
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Exactly. My internet gets "put on hold" for the duration of the phone call.
I face this when i have a GPRS/EDGE coverage, but when connected to 3G/3.5G/H it's ok, i can make both without problems
anaadoul said:
I face this when i have a GPRS/EDGE coverage, but when connected to 3G/3.5G/H it's ok, i can make both without problems
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I would like to expand this...
anaadoul is correct. In fact, regular GPRS cannot send data simultaneously as the voice call.
EDGE can SOMETIMES do so if the carrier's tower/cell supports this, but not all do, so while EDGE provides faster data connection, you may or may NOT get simultaneous data and voice. This is my experience at least. I think EDGE is always supposed to support simultaneous voice/data but my experience shows otherwise.
This is one of the primary reasons I am using a 3G network and 3G phone now. 3.5G/H while providing faster data, have no difference in regards to simultaneous voice data, but do use more power/battery so if I know I'm going to be out a long, long time, I turn H/3.5G off.
For me, it is VERY important I can use data and voice at the same time. I have my phone checking mail every 10 minutes, and it takes about 10-30 seconds to successfully check mail, so that means every 10 minutes, if an incoming call arrives, it'll go straight to voicemail and I miss it. That is not acceptable.
Plus, if I receive a business call, I can check mail, open up websites, etc. WHILE i am on the call. You have no idea how useful that is.
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anaadoul is correct. In fact, regular GPRS cannot send data simultaneously as the voice call.
EDGE can SOMETIMES do so if the carrier's tower/cell supports this, but not all do, so while EDGE provides faster data connection, you may or may NOT get simultaneous data and voice. This is my experience at least. I think EDGE is always supposed to support simultaneous voice/data but my experience shows otherwise.
This is one of the primary reasons I am using a 3G network and 3G phone now. 3.5G/H while providing faster data, have no difference in regards to simultaneous voice data, but do use more power/battery so if I know I'm going to be out a long, long time, I turn H/3.5G off.
For me, it is VERY important I can use data and voice at the same time. I have my phone checking mail every 10 minutes, and it takes about 10-30 seconds to successfully check mail, so that means every 10 minutes, if an incoming call arrives, it'll go straight to voicemail and I miss it. That is not acceptable.
Plus, if I receive a business call, I can check mail, open up websites, etc. WHILE i am on the call. You have no idea how useful that is.
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allow me to agree/disagree with you on some points.
imo, Edge doesn't support simultaneous call/data, except some devices that have some dual GSM radio as both operate on the same radio device level.
afaik the technology of 3G+ is different, the voice itself is not being transmitted as GSM signal, it's converted into a something similar to VOIP (that what makes Video Call Happens), a phone call uses one channel for audio transmit, the good thing is that the archetecture of 3G+ is designed to have multiple simultaneous connections to the tower cell, this will allow more transfer bandwidth, while this makes you able to browse and talk at the same time, it also puts more load on the cell (the cell can accept a certain fixed number of connections depending on the location and population of the area) resulting on people getting Network Busy Error!
so the result is a data connection is dropped if the cell is full in order to take a phone call.
what makes 3G+ really fast is that it can open milti channels with the cell, allowing more allocated bandwidth (we all know it reaches up to 7.2mbps).
3G+ consumes LESS power imo than GPRS/EDGE (Data connection only, voice calls consumes more on 3G+) as 3G+ will close all active connections when there is no application transferring (see the H icon disappearing when no application is downloading anything and 3G/3.5G icon is there, once an internet request is made it will go back to H).
so the result i think as follows
GPRS/EDGE : Low battery consumption for voice calls, High for Data & No simultaneous Call & Data.
3G/3.5G/HSDPA : Higher battery consumption for voice calls, Low for Data & Supports simultaneous Call & Data.
btw, i am connected to my Company's exchange server using Microsoft Direct Push. when the connection is G or E, i loose my battery more quicker than 3G/3.5G/H
even i have noticed that 3G+ consumes way less power that WiFi (now my email is synced over the air even in the office so my battery won't die quickly. don't worry i have a huge data plan )
please correct me if i'm wrong, all my information above is based on personal experiance
cheers
Well, I don't know if this will work for everyone but I fixed my issue. I just called my voicemail and put it on speakerphone in order to keep the voice connection open. Then I tried surfing with Opera a few times. The first few times it wouldn't connect, but then suddenly my phone beeped twice and I got the connection window saying my 3G was connecting. At first I thought I had just forced it but in retrospect, I think I just had a bad signal and had just connected to my 3G network. Thanks for all the info guys!
k20z3_si said:
suddenly my phone beeped twice and I got the connection window saying my 3G was connecting.
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Call dropped maybe?!
try this,
Start -> Settings -> Phone -> Band
1.Set network type to WCDMA
2.Set GSM/UMTS band to UMTS
these forces your device into a 3G+ network
3.open commManager from start menu
4.turn dataconnection ON
5.Make a call
6.try browsing
7.Post Here
cheers
anaadoul said:
allow me to agree/disagree with you on some points.
imo, Edge doesn't support simultaneous call/data, except some devices that have some dual GSM radio as both operate on the same radio device level.
afaik the technology of 3G+ is different, the voice itself is not being transmitted as GSM signal, it's converted into a something similar to VOIP (that what makes Video Call Happens), a phone call uses one channel for audio transmit, the good thing is that the archetecture of 3G+ is designed to have multiple simultaneous connections to the tower cell, this will allow more transfer bandwidth, while this makes you able to browse and talk at the same time, it also puts more load on the cell (the cell can accept a certain fixed number of connections depending on the location and population of the area) resulting on people getting Network Busy Error!
so the result is a data connection is dropped if the cell is full in order to take a phone call.
what makes 3G+ really fast is that it can open milti channels with the cell, allowing more allocated bandwidth (we all know it reaches up to 7.2mbps).
3G+ consumes LESS power imo than GPRS/EDGE (Data connection only, voice calls consumes more on 3G+) as 3G+ will close all active connections when there is no application transferring (see the H icon disappearing when no application is downloading anything and 3G/3.5G icon is there, once an internet request is made it will go back to H).
so the result i think as follows
GPRS/EDGE : Low battery consumption for voice calls, High for Data & No simultaneous Call & Data.
3G/3.5G/HSDPA : Higher battery consumption for voice calls, Low for Data & Supports simultaneous Call & Data.
btw, i am connected to my Company's exchange server using Microsoft Direct Push. when the connection is G or E, i loose my battery more quicker than 3G/3.5G/H
even i have noticed that 3G+ consumes way less power that WiFi (now my email is synced over the air even in the office so my battery won't die quickly. don't worry i have a huge data plan )
please correct me if i'm wrong, all my information above is based on personal experiance
cheers
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I agree... 3G and 3G+ seem to consume LESS battery than WIFI!
As for Edge, my experience is that I never could get simultaneous voice/data, but you're right, both the cell AND the phone need to support this function. I dont think our Xperia's hardware actually supports this at all. When I switched to using the Xperia I had purposely changed to a 3G network to take advantage of the 3G/3G+ capabilities it has.
i am quite sure that GPRS does not support simultaneous... everytime i call, a "cancel" icon appeared
I called AT&T to see if they support simultaneous Data and Voice and they said they do, but your phone has to as well. The X1 supports it also, so I just think I wasn't asble to do so because I was only in GPRS, not 3G.
leobox1 said:
i am quite sure that GPRS does not support simultaneous... everytime i call, a "cancel" icon appeared
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It doesn't. We already stated that above. anaadoul and me already stated that above.
I'm trying to figure out a way to have the data connection to work during a call. Whenever i press answer i loose all connection that are bind to operator data connection and if i have the active sync or bluetooth it's ok.
Is it possible to keep data connection while talking or is #777 using the same tunnel as voice and therefore cannot overlap?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546982&highlight=operator
talk to your phone company
Telus is a CDMA provider, so when you make or receive a phone call or text message, it has to temporarily disable the data connection to do so. GSM providers don't have to do this, it's an unfortunate limitation to CDMA technology.
There's light on the horizon, though! When Telus deploys their HSPA network next year, you should be able to upgrade your phone to one that supports HSPA bands (such as the Touch Pro2) and use data during a call.
I read in one of the threads (can't remember where) that someone mentioned you can't receive a call if you are 'ACTIVELY' web browsing over a 'G' signal. I've tested this today and found it to be true as that is the signal I have in this office. If you come out of Opera (with it still in the background) it will connect but when you go back in and open a new link you again will not be able to recieve calls.
Anyone Know the reasons behind this, bit of a pain if you ask me.
its the nature of GPRS i am afraid... its the same on any mobile if you are actively browing using GPRS.
GPRs is only capable of making one connection at a time.
You dont get this issue if you are say browsing with 3G or HSPA.
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Hi, I have a question regarding this. If you use GPRs and enable push email, automatic frequent weather update, twitter update etc, does that mean you won't have much chance to receive any phone calls/text messages?
luffyp said:
Hi, I have a question regarding this. If you use GPRs and enable push email, automatic frequent weather update, twitter update etc, does that mean you won't have much chance to receive any phone calls/text messages?
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was just thinking about that myself... im not 100% sure as it would depend upon the amount of time your GPRS data connection is active.
As a matter of fact, GPRS as a standard is perfectly capable of handling simultaneous voice and data calls. There are different classes of GPRS devices varying from doing only one thing at a time to simultaneous voice and data. Most phones, including HD2, are, IIRC, Class B devices, meaning that they will pause data transfer during voice calls. Whether this will actually work or not, however, depends on your network - your operator may not provide enough slots for this. If this is the case, you will lose incoming calls occasionally during active data transfer, and there's nothing you can do about it apart from not using data or switching to another provider.
vangrieg said:
As a matter of fact, GPRS as a standard is perfectly capable of handling simultaneous voice and data calls. There are different classes of GPRS devices varying from doing only one thing at a time to simultaneous voice and data. Most phones, including HD2, are, IIRC, Class B devices, meaning that they will pause data transfer during voice calls. Whether this will actually work or not, however, depends on your network - your operator may not provide enough slots for this. If this is the case, you will lose incoming calls occasionally during active data transfer, and there's nothing you can do about it apart from not using data or switching to another provider.
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Thanks, i can confirm that it does not work with o2 tried and tested
With 3G connected and while in a phone call I can't update the weather during the phonecall. Vodafone.
Hello,
the HTC support tells me, that you can´t surf (with and without tethering) and make a phone call at the same time.
Is there a hack or patch to do this at the same time?
P.s. Somewhere i saw, that iPhone can do this with a hack.
You can do it if you're on 3G or WiFi.
If you're on GSM you can't do it.
That sounds great!
But when im on gsm in internet, does i still get incoming calls?
That is very importent for my business...
No, only on 3G. GSM supports only call or data, not both at the same time. If data is connected but not actively transferring stuff, incoming calls will go through, but if you're downloading at that moment the call will just sound busy/go to voicemail. That's a network limitation.
kilrah said:
No, only on 3G. GSM supports only call or data, not both at the same time. If data is connected but not actively transferring stuff, incoming calls will go through, but if you're downloading at that moment the call will just sound busy/go to voicemail. That's a network limitation.
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Actually it is not a network limitation.
There are Class A devices out there that can handle simoultaineous voice and data sessions.
GSM is not a network connection like GPRS and other. GSM is like old 56k modem which dials up a number and holds the line. Therefore, you cannot connect to GSM and make a call. This is a network limitation, not related to phone (unless you have 2 sims).
GPRS, EDGE are extensions of GSM... and today's general use of "GSM" includes those... GSM = not 3G