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Livemail - push email 30 day free trial.

Hi,
This maybe intresting to someone, ive not tryed the 30 trial as i have no use for live email.
Got a PDA, Pocket PC or Smartphone? With Fasthosts Livemail you could already get Outlook® email from your home, office computer or any internet-connected browser... but now you can also get it on your mobile device thanks to the exclusive GoodLink data push software available with all new Livemail packages.
With GoodLink, Livemail can now push email, contacts and schedule data directly to your hand-held device in real-time, just like a BlackBerry. Any activity like new mail, meeting requests or changes to your schedule are recognised immediately and displayed on your screen as they happen.
Retrieving email on your hand-held will keep you constantly informed of the day's developments, helping you to recover hours of lost communication time. What's more, all mailbox data is stored centrally on a secure server in one of Fasthosts' cutting-edge UK data centres, so even if you lose or change your computer or hand-held device - all your email, contacts and schedule data is fully backed up.
Find out more about Livemail with GoodLink data push at:
http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/email/

I tried it - managed to work fairly well until I decided I wanted to uninstall it as the goodlink software overrides all of your existing accounts.
Didn't really bother reading a manual on uninstalling it as I just tried to remove it from remove Programs - didn't want to go - reset it to make sure no components were running when I next tried it - it said it had uninstalled it but there were still lots of residual evidence it had been there.
Eventually hard-reset and had to start from scratch again.
Don't get me wrong, I think it would be fantastic - one issue though - you do need to tell them a domain you wish them to receive mail for - didn't see an option to receive mail from an account forwarder.
If you already have a domain, this means transferring your domain record (or possibly just the MX record) to fasthosts.

I pay a monthly sub to 4smartphone.net - the service is excellent. Fully hosted exchange account that'll support "proper" push as soon as the device can be updated to support it.

I was told you cant pay monthly for 4smartphone you have to pay a year upfront
Chris

Thats also what I thought - I had signed up for a trial account and was told it needs a year to continue service.

erm you're right - year up front, but I look at it in terms of what it equates to per month... sorry for misleading

he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?

Am i confused here with this push email, i set up 4smartphone trial and when an email is received it sends a message to an email address that it has received mail, i set this up so an sms was sent to my phone from that email account when the mail arrived from 4smartphone, this activated my device to contact the server and get the mail, isnt this push email, the only problem was i had to pay for the sms triggers and it was costing a fortune to do it, what we need is the subscription to 4smartphone that sends a text message rather than an email at a reasonable cost
Guys enlighten me please

I thought the very same - O2 charge me 10p per SMS but I couldn't find any clear providers who would do the same for cheaper. Most providers were on about sending SMSes rather than allowing you to receive via their systems.
From what's been said, once the new update comes out with the push technology, the requirement for SMSes goes out the window as this is one of the things the exchange developers wanted to get rid of - reliance on the network provider.
All you need is a network connection of some sort (be it wifi, gprs, cradled) and it should receive the updates.

numanoids said:
he he - no worries mate.
Have 4smartphone definitely confirmed they'll be supporting the push technology once the devices support it?
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I think so, yes. In fact I think they've already upgraded their exchange servers to the correct service pack - so we're just waiting on an operator to bring out a ROM for the Universal which incorporates the Windows Messaging and Security patch for WM5.0
To the others - yes, you can set it up to text you if you receive email etc. Personally I just leave mine to check every 10 mins (which, lets face it, is practically instant "push" anyway!) as on average I receive a new mail less than 5 mins after it is sent. The data overhead is minimal this way and no texts are needed.

another push email 30 day free trial
i have tried another email push service for pocket pcs. it is called Pocket X-Press. you can access your pop3 and imap4 mail server and get a realtime push wit out checking from device in an interval.
you can download a trial version for wm 2003 and 2005 under: www.pocketxpress.com
has anybody experience made with this?

you tell us mate, you developed it

Anyone got an Exchange Hosting guide?

For push email, looks like I'll be using one of the exchange hostsing services:
1&1
Option 1: 69p/mth for "Instant Email"
"1&1 Instant Mail gives you 5 dedicated POP3/IMAP e-mail accounts to create [email protected]. Send and receive e-mail from any Internet - connected computer."
Option 2: £5.99/mth for "Microsoft Exchange"
"Experience the benefits of seamless communication and collaboration with Microsoft Exchange. Use Outlook to send and receive e-mail from any Internet-connected computer."
4SmartPhone.Net
Option 1: $3.99 for "Express"
Includes Push Email, Wireless Sync, OWA: Outlook Web Access
Option 2: $6.99 for "Professional"
As above plus Outlook 2003 support, Sharing of email, contacts, calendar and tasks
Mail2Web
Option 1: FREE - Pop3, IMAP4 or SMTP not supported (huh???)
Option 2: $1.99 for "Personal Exchange"
"With our Enhanced Email plan, based on Microsoft Exchange, you are never far from your email, contact, schedule and other personal information. It’s all available from either your desktop, the web, as well as any Windows-powered mobile devices as Pocket PC, Pocket PC Phone Edition and Microsoft Windows®-powered Smartphones. Get information as it arrives where ever you may be.
Microsoft Exchange is much more than an email solution - it's a complete messaging solution that goes way beyond email to provide calendars, task management, contact lists, advanced rules for sorting your messages and much more.
Previously this solution was only available to businesses but we have developed a special version with the individual in mind. Now you can get your own Personal Exchange account on the mail2web.com domain."
OK, now I'm confused...
What exactly does everyone else use, and how much does it cost, what option and what does it give you?

looks like very attractive services, wonder if anyone has had a few months using these services, and can comment on the reliability etc.
Always a bit weary of hosted services, had dropped emails from hosted services in the past!

I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.

trapper said:
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!

Does it include the Universal client or are you using a new ROM?

There isn't a client as such as the functionality is already built into ALL of the Roms.
The main difference is the existing ROMs may not have the push functionality that a lot of people are waiting for.
I used smartphone during the trial on my original O2 ROM, this meant an SMS being sent to my device everytime I got a new message, however once I got hold of a ROM with push technology, I tested it with an Exchange Beta and it just worked out of the box - I suspect the same will be the case for 4smartphone.

belfast-biker said:
trapper said:
I was going to go with 1&1 however, it seems to me as though I have to pay for six months up front.
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I've went for the $6.99 a month (but a year upfront after the fifteen day trial) 4smartphone.net service. So far, so excellent!
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Also, I was downloading an outlook profile to I can use my outlook fully synced as well as OWA, and there was a problem which stopped me getting into my outlook at all!
I emailed them, and they replied with a full solution within 20 minutes. On a Sunday!
I tend to judge a company by how they handle things like this - any company is good when things work, but when things go wrong it's good to know you'll not be left up the creek without a paddle.
Top marks. Will definitely be buying the years service after the 15 day trial.

I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?

trapper said:
I'm just applying for it now.
Did you say that you worked for o2?
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Yup, in Business Sales. I've to give a training session in Data tomorrow - group shared tariffs, personal tariffs, GPRS/3G/Wifi, BlackBerry vs. XDA, Email vs. Push Email, that kinda thing. Having done all this at the weekend will help me - otherwise I'd be telling them to tell our customers that if they want Push Email on the XDA IQ, they'd have to invest in Server 2003, Exchange etc etc.... at least this way, you do without all those capital costs and do it for just £4 per month to 4smartphone.net, plus minor data costs. Although I'd not recommend the process to normal humans.

How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:

trapper said:
How do you set it up on the phone agan? :roll:
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You only get the Direct Push Email button option in the xconnections manager once you set up your activesync properly, and manual instructions for this are on their web page quite good ones I may add. I could foolow them!

EMOZE screwed up my bill!

Hey,
I recently installed emoze for push email and then i ditched it. I jsut want to know, how does it work exactly? Is it genuinly push email or does it check for emials ever so often?
I"m asking this because i have about $300 of Internet usage (overages) on my account. I mainly used my internet for emails and i can't udnerstnad how i went over.
Also, how does Microsoft push email work? is it possible that was the problem?
I only receive about 10 emails a week anyway. please let me know
Thanks.

Short review about emoze
Hello all,
I'll start by saying that I'm part of emoze team.
emoze is a FREE push email & PIM solution for Pocket PCs, Symbain, Smartphones and other devices.
emoze synchronizes the Outlook's Inbox, Calendar, Contacts and Tasks with full support of attachments. With emoze you have a wide range of configuration possibilities for every folder you choose emoze to synchronize.
Concerning the data package, with emoze as long as data is not being transferred you are not being charged for data. We suggest you review with your providers to understand your data plans.
Furthermore, you can use a sleep mode, which will connect the internet every few minutes. The only data emoze will transfer is the emails and PIM.
If you have anymore questions about emoze please fill free to connect our support: [email protected]
For conclution please remember one thing, emoze is the easiest & most secure push email solution available.
Regards and good day,
Oren.

I suggest you to get an unilimted data plan if you want to get online.
If you decide not to get one, then I recommend you to use SPB GPRS Monitor to keep a eye on your data consumption. Not that your carrier will take that information as valid, but at least you can be alerted when you reach a certain configurable limit.
Cheers!
Rayan

Hello. I tried emoze, and after a few tried it finally worked. I must say, there should be a detailed instruction on how to set it up. I mean from the very beginning.
ALso, while setting it up on my iPhone, there were pop up windows that says "cannot verified" or something. 2-3 times. I didn't know you have to keep on pressing continue. The instruction doesn't say anything about that.
ANyway, I finally got it to work, well sort of.
I can send email from my iPhone, but cannot receive.
Here's what I've done so far.
(1) I donwloaded emoze software.
(2) I have username/pw. I registered it with my gamil email (this is what I want to be pushed to my iPhone)
(3) I setup my GMAIL email account to my MS Outlook 2007.
(4) I clicked EDIT on emoze, and selected INBOX.
(5) When I send/receive email on iPhone, I can see that the icon on emoze changes, meaning it syncs.
(6) I also truend off SSL on iPhone according to other users.
Still can't receive email. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
emozeoren said:
Hello all,
I'll start by saying that I'm part of emoze team.
emoze is a FREE push email & PIM solution for Pocket PCs, Symbain, Smartphones and other devices.
emoze synchronizes the Outlook's Inbox, Calendar, Contacts and Tasks with full support of attachments. With emoze you have a wide range of configuration possibilities for every folder you choose emoze to synchronize.
Concerning the data package, with emoze as long as data is not being transferred you are not being charged for data. We suggest you review with your providers to understand your data plans.
Furthermore, you can use a sleep mode, which will connect the internet every few minutes. The only data emoze will transfer is the emails and PIM.
If you have anymore questions about emoze please fill free to connect our support: [email protected]
For conclution please remember one thing, emoze is the easiest & most secure push email solution available.
Regards and good day,
Oren.
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DirectPush (and similarly Emoze and most other 'Push' e-mail technologies) work by simulating true Push communications.
Because server-initiated communication isn't strictly possible over GPRS, the cell data network, these Push e-mail solutions work by sending requests (called pings) to a server at regular intervals. If no new e-mails are waiting, the server simply acknowledges the ping. Otherwise, it instructs the device to retrieve the new e-mails.
The advantages over pure-pull technology (i.e. setting Outlook to check for e-mails every 15 minutes) lie in the smaller amount of the ping-packets compared with the packets exchanged when checking e-mail over pure Exchange/POP/IMAP. This, in turn, uses less bandwidth, enabling the checks to be done more frequently and in the background without significant use of bandwidth or resources.
Unfortunately, this does create data traffic, costing you money. I wouldn't reccomend having any type of 'always-on' solution, such as these 'push' e-mail simulations, unless you're on an unlimited data plan.
A few true Push e-mail schemes do exist for the HTC Wizard; these utilize cell-network messages (usually SMS-based) to initialize communications on the server-side. These messages are then intercepted in the notification que, instructing your device to check for new e-mails. These do not use data except for when the e-mails themselves are downloaded.
T-Mobile offers one such solution with their 'My E-Mail Triggers', and I believe AT&T/Cingular offers a similar solution.
For more information on DirectPush's simulated push technology, a good article is available on the MSDN here.

Nice to see you here RAYAN
In poderPDA dont answers...
En poder PDA no contestan...
reed you soon man!
Te leeo despues!

thank you for this useful clarification !!!!!!

Exchange mail services (free / trial accounts available) includes push / aliases

hey guys from wizard forum!
had started this service out to TYTN users and figured i should spread the news here as it seems austindkelly has left these forums (last active >1 month ago). if you guys are looking for push email, please get in touch here's what i posted in the tytn forum:
I'm now offering exchange mailboxes to users (subscription based service). right now i see two, one by austindkelly in the wizard forum (he's disappeared for over a month and looks like he doens't offer his service any more) and one by denial in the kaiser section ($5/month). I thought I'd offer up a similar service starting with the hermes group (cheaper of course) with a few extra tidbits of joy...
- supports iphone exchange services, saves a heck of money over apple's mobileme service!
- outlook web access (with the advanced interface)
- 1gb quota
- both SSL as well as standard port options
- *IMAP access* - you don't even need outlook, syncs flawlessly with your phone.
- *MAPI* outlook access - hook up your outlook on your PC to sync with my service which in turn syncs with your phone. no plugging in ever needed!
- alias included (get your own email)
- changing your password through outlook web access (one-way non-reversible encryption).
I figured it's a bit of an overkill having my own exchange server that's serving a single account (i.e. mine). so why not open it up!
Price is $10 for 3 months, $19 for 6 months.
Please PM me if you're interested... Already have a number of beta testers who I've received only positive responses from so far. I'll probably set up your account within 12 hours (probably less).
And yes, will give you unused credit money back etc etc if you're unsatisfied for whatever reason. I'm really not in this for the money, it's more to utilize something I spent hours building up, plus to cover the costs of my internet / server hardware.
And, as usual, if you need any files hosted for xda-developers just let me know, i'm already hosting over 40 ROM images and serving 5-6gb/day in ROMs from the wiki!
cheers!
free accounts:
will provide 10 rotating free accounts at any given time for test purposes, will base it off of usage. so if you use the free account, i'll keep it up indefinitely, if not then account will be removed after 14 days and given to the next person in line.
Free accounts do not have MAPI access, have 50mb storage, have no aliases either.
Depending on utilization I may increase this 10 free account limit.

accounts requested from this morning have been set up, please check your PM boxes

few people are asking about synching from multiple sources...
from my understanding i can only give you one alias for your accounts, which means you can't select your "from." however you're free to forward as many accounts as you wish to the account i create for you, but you can only send from one "alias."
another multi-synching thing people are asking is whether you can sync calendar with your desktop and email with my service. sure!! its best that way in fact - that's what i do. i have my outlook on my desktop which has my calendar, contacts, and only sync my email via push on exchange to my server... you can even take this a step further and set up IMAP access so what you see in your email client is the same as what you'll see in your pocket outlook... if you delete from your desktop, whoosh it disappears from your PDA too

happy new year everyone
could i get 1-2 of the existing customers (or 1-2 new members?) to test out the MAPI access with outlook? I got it working for my account but the one "outside" tester i have hasn't had any luck in setting it up. It'd be a great feature to have!
PM me

MAPI (i.e. desktop outlook) access is now enabled
still plenty of resources to use up so drop me a line if interested!

guys, if you're not using your trial accounts, please drop me a PM requesting me to close it down. While i can see last log in dates etc, it's much more efficient if you just drop the courtesy PM
requesting as i've overshot my initial "10 free rotating accounts" by quite a bit

going to take the server down for about 15-20 minutes this afternoon for a quick reboot and offline backup. planning for 3:00pm GMT. please be patient, hopefully it should be done much much faster!

Quick update regarding update in the server!
I know I've had some VERY avoidable downtimes this past few months. Because this is running on a laptop it has been unplugged from the power / ethernet while its been moved.
however good news! I've just purchased a replacement - a nice server
Specs - dual core AMD 5600+ with 2 gb RAM, 820gb storage (for those attachments ).
i'll do the switchover soon as i get the machine, should hopefully take 10-15 minutes as i just need to image the drive across.
once i get the machine i'll push up the trial accounts to 15 or 20 so if you're interested i'll post here when the migration is done and you can drop me a note
cheers!

can someone who has successfully set up outlook 07 with my service PM me with the settings they've used? i need to get some instructions on my site on how to do it, and i don't use exchange 07 myself...
thanks!

chamelion said:
can someone who has successfully set up outlook 07 with my service PM me with the settings they've used? i need to get some instructions on my site on how to do it, and i don't use exchange 07 myself...
thanks!
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Check out http://community.seven.com/main.php it offers free push email for unlimited accounts. I am using it to sync three accounts at once.

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I have recently signed up with Mail2web and love how it works, but there are limitations. as far as I can see you can only have 1 email address per account and the synced info is limited to mail, contacts, tasks and calender.
I am wondering if anyone would know of any software that is GPL/free that I can use to set an exchange type server on a laptop that can do the same functions plus some. Sort of a small office setup where I can have 2 or 3 emails and have the users share a calender, contacts, data files for applications like shopping lists.
Thanks

What else would you like to remotely sync? Also you do realize that hosting your own exchange server you will need to leave the machine running 99% of the time, not exactly well suited for a laptop. As far as an open source gpl implementation of exchange check out this site, http://www.open-xchange.com/

I forgot to mention what I wanted to sync, a few pda/cellphones and a few desktops. I like the small size and lower power consumption of a laptop, maybe a mini pc would be better at the task, I am not sure.
thanks for the reply I will check out the link next.

I guess it really depends on what you wanna do. If you want to deal with setting up a mail server try the open exchange if you have the money get the MS version. This would be a great way to go for medium sized business but if there are only a few accounts to manage a hosted service such as mail2eb is much more viable and there down time is next to never. With there business plans you can manage multiple email accounts and share there calendars with a variety of devices and email clients.

I looked at open-xchange and it looks pretty good, I have never tried to set up an email server but I am will to pick up a $100 laptop and try setting it up. It looks like the cost of Mail2web business account is $15 per user/per month, sounds like it would be worthwhile setting up my own server, and learning something rather then tying myself to $30 a month for me and my wife. I can definitely see an advantage for a business to sync up there data and sharing files with mobile devices. I am willing to learn
Thanks for the info

I still think that a laptop would not be good as an email server. Your 100bucks would be better spent buying desktop off of craigslist. but thats my 2cents.
Lets us know your success!!

I just looked at open xchange, geez how much!? Buy MS Small Business Server 2003, its bloody cheaper!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/pricing.mspx