I'm sure that all of you that are programing have had to restore your Phone back to a workable state.. was wondering which app would work to backup/clome my phone to a file that I could restore if things go totally belly up.. any suggestions would be appreciated.. thanks
kobejim
clone = expensive
to clone : spb software house clone software
expensiveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
if you hardrest yocan use to get exactly what u had before
but many backup cheap or free software : try SIP backup (sticky at this forum)
this only gets your contacts, messages, email..etc
but if you hard reset you loose all installed software
good luck
kobejim2 said:
I'm sure that all of you that are programing have had to restore your Phone back to a workable state.. was wondering which app would work to backup/clome my phone to a file that I could restore if things go totally belly up.. any suggestions would be appreciated.. thanks
kobejim
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kobejim2 said:
I'm sure that all of you that are programing have had to restore your Phone back to a workable state.. was wondering which app would work to backup/clome my phone to a file that I could restore if things go totally belly up.. any suggestions would be appreciated.. thanks
kobejim
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Your best try is to check excellent Backup bible by Menneisyys here. Commercial apps in that field are far superior to freeware/manufacturer issued backup utilities. If you only need PIM data backup then PIM Backup will do its job very well. It is also a good idea to have a dump of your original ROM backed up in case of warranty claims.
However use of backup utilities for migrating from one ROM to another is rather problematic (only Sprite Backup is capable of this and the results vary).
SPB Backup. Great tool, well worth the money.
WB
Because each month a new custom ROM is released, and I can't wait to test them, I use PIM Backup for contacts, messages, email.. and for useful software I want on my PPC, I just make a single CAB with WinCE Cab manager.
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Now i've got my xda mini S working pretty much as id like, i would like to perform a full backup to my mini SD card incase of a crash which requires a hard reset. It's important that i would be able to restore the system when 'on the road' and possibly away from a pc.
On my dell axim there is a backup to SD card util but i cant see anything similar on the xda mini s. Anyone help/recommend something.
thanks,
malty
You have to use a 3rd parts app. I use SPB backup, works well but there are others.
as i said i need something that can be run from sd without a full install to the pda. This is so i can restore without having to connect to a pc. Any apps that can install and / or run from the pda sd card will do
SPB backup stores the backup as an executable on the SD card that you can run to restore your system, PC not needed.
absolutely ideal thanks mate
will grab that app now
cheers,
malty
Sprite used to be my favorite, but they've let me down lately.
Spb is excellent!
I would like to take advantage of SPB backup but I have heard rumors that it won't restore to the newest Qtek rom properly. Does anyone have any input on this?
seems perfect to me but i guess you dont really know until you need it. Just made a backup .exe and moved a copy to my pc for safe keeping in case the sd card goes down too. My mind is now at rest cheers guys.
fowen said:
I would like to take advantage of SPB backup but I have heard rumors that it won't restore to the newest Qtek rom properly. Does anyone have any input on this?
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Yup - I am on the new rom and I have just done a restore..... dont ask me why I had to restore....
.... ok I will tell you .....
.... I had to resore after I upgraded to the latest level of SPB Backup (v1.1.2 build 2050). Strange as this happened to me before when I upgraded. All was fine when I installed the new version from scratch last time. Not gonna try it again this time though, v1.1.1 is good enough. At least I know it works !!
im using 1.1.1 on an o2 xda mini s flashed with the imate rom. Havent had to do a restore yet but am hoping im safe.
I use sunnysoft backup manager and it work well, it can creat .exe backup file so i can easy restore late when my device go down or upgrade new rom.
I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.
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I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.
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May be i'm stupid but I can back up only PIM (contact...) with sunny on my charmer. Or charmer is not using WinCE?
Asturias said:
Menneisyys said:
I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.
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May be i'm stupid but I can back up only PIM (contact...) with sunny on my charmer. Or charmer is not using WinCE?
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Strange it is working with your PPC - which Sunnysoft version are you using?
My version is:
Sunnysoft Backup Manager 3.7 wm5
Can anyone recommend a good backup tool? I want to back everything up before upgrading my ROM. I've seen some softwares out there, like spb backup, sprite backup and SK Tools, but not sure which may be better. Do they all perform the same functions and back everything up, like settings, programs etc? Thanks.
SPB Backup is what I use and recommend. Best feature: can save your backup to your mini SD card so you can hard-reset and restore without a need for a PC!
There are four backup apps; I recommend either SKTools or Sprite Backup the most.
Please see my Backup Bible for more info: http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1270&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Thanks, pretty comprehensive
Menneisyys, after reading your review, it seems to me that sprite is the better choice for WM5 and specifically for the purpose of upgrading the ROM. Is that correct or am I talking rubbish?
kkhalil76 said:
Menneisyys, after reading your review, it seems to me that sprite is the better choice for WM5 and specifically for the purpose of upgrading the ROM. Is that correct or am I talking rubbish?
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Yes, Sprite is indeed unique in that it allows for cross-upgrade restoration. (Which won't currently work with AKU3 though - at least not the current "unofficial" releases.)
That is, if price is not a problem, go for Sprite.
Great, thanks again
Agreed, the only software in its field that can restore to a new ROM or device. Definantly worth the extra cash since mobile devices can go missing and ROM upgrades come out often
Hi Everyone,
Which Backup program do you use? Is there one you recommend? All this hacking my Cingular 8525 around has had me hard-reset at least twice within the last week. I need a good and reliable backup program since installing all of my software is taking me over 2.5 hours of time.
Thanks for responding.
ADP
spb backup has never let me down.well worth trying.
sprite also gets good reviews but I've never used it.
read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1270&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I've tried different backup programs with my TyTN.
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
I've already restored my data after hard reset with this program (not once) and all is good.
i use spb also, works great
I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
mnez said:
I vote for spb as well.
Although keep in mind that it only does back up system settings and core software installed in device (not sure what exactly), not the whole file system of your PDA. My problem was, I deleted some files and uninstalled some programs after backing up, and after restore they were not there! (just blank icons).
I would love to mirror my whole device on PC hard drive, yet I am not sure about software for this purpose.
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goestoeleven said:
Whatever backup product you use, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT applying a backup from a different ROM version. You're asking for serious trouble.
Simply put, if you update your ROM, you're also plan on reinstalling everything clean from scratch...
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Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
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how well does spb backup perform when you do a ROM upgrade?
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Use Sprite Backup in this case, it'll work unless you try to cross-restore between AKU2.x and AKU3.x. And please DO read my above-linked article; in there, I've also elaborated on this very question.
bobstarina said:
I found that the only perfect working program is SPB Backup.
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Strange you had problems with the otehr alternates (Sunnysoft Backup, SKTools 3.0, Sprite 5.1). Are you sure you tried the LATEST versions of them? It's only lately that, for example, Sunnysoft Backup received REAL WM5 support.
Also please read the Backup Bible I've linked in above if you need more info on all these questions.
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Sprite Backup works perfectly with ROM and DEVICE upgrades.. I switched from my Wizard to my Hermes without any problems..
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Both of you are correct. Sprite DOES work great in most cases, except for restoring AKU3 content under AKU2 and vice versa.
does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
Sprite works well for me
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does restoreing after a ROM upgrade using Sprite also keep your current registry changes as well...or do i have to do all registry hacks all over again...or even after just a hard reset not a ROM upgrade do i still have to enter the reg. edits all over again....
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It will restore your registry changes too. Otehrwise, it wouldn't work at all with a lot of third-party apps that also use the Registry to store their stuff / settings.
Does anyone know if Spb backup will back up outlook notes?
Sprite is the only one worth getting since you can restore after a ROM or device change Just make sure you RTFM before you go changing anything as there are things you need to do before hand
Interesting to hear that Sprite Backup works without problems for all of you. On my TyTN, when it wants to reboot before beginning a backup, the TyTN gets stuck at the Windows Mobile screen. Removing/re-inserting the battery usually allows the boot process to finish - but only until the next reboot. After that, all subsequent reboots show that behaviour, no matter if initiated by Sprite Backup or otherwise. And very strangley, after a day or two this phenomenon disappears slowly. A hard reset fixes the problem immediately - at least until I re-install Sprite Backup or restore an (executable) backup I made earlier.
What's even more strange is that this seems to be reproducable, even across different ROM versions. I saw that first with the O2 Germany ROM my Trion came with, and also after I updated to the south-african WWE ROM.
Cheers
Daniel
Has anyone tried both of the above? Which is regarded as better?
Do they backup everything?
I need to send my machine back to HTC for a repair and they say it will lose everything so I will back it up. So I want to back up everything!
Before I get a program to do this can anyone shed some light on which is best and why?
Vote for SPB. Extremely fool proof. Havent used Sprite.
My Vote is for SPB
I have been using SPB for 2 years and I have to say it is the best for me , easy to customize and quick, has all the features that u need. creates a self extracting restore file u don't need to reinstall SPB to use it. Give it a try. Sprite is just as good I have used it as well but I have to recommend SPB for ease of use.
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Spb for me too.
If i remember correctly Sprite does NOT Backup the Registry.
Vote for SPB too.
I never have a problem with.
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Spb for me too.
If i remember correctly Sprite does NOT Backup the Registry.
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So, from a hard reset by starting the self extracting executable my device would be returned to its original state? Is that correct?
for_me, Spb Backup
Sprite is more capable - can restore to a different device something spb cannot do?
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And what if you change ROM in the meantime? Or if you upgrade to WM6 and the backup was done on the WM5?
The FD said:
So, from a hard reset by starting the self extracting executable my device would be returned to its original state? Is that correct?
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Exactly correct!!........i do it all the time without any problems.
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And what if you change ROM in the meantime? Or if you upgrade to WM6 and the backup was done on the WM5?
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Neither Sprite nor Spb will help you there, remember you're basically changing the OS while your installed programs relate to the installed OS at that time.
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Neither Sprite nor Spb will help you there, remember you're basically changing the OS while your installed programs relate to the installed OS at that time.
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So they don't actually change the OS back to the version that was previously installed? All the programs do is put back what system settings and programs were previously installed?
Is that correct?
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So they don't actually change the OS back to the version that was previously installed? All the programs do is put back what system settings and programs were previously installed?
Is that correct?
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Yes!......... they are basically a Backup program which when in trouble they will restore your Device to the same state and configuration as when you did the backup. This saves a lot of time when you Device gets totally stuck and needs a "Hard" Reset.......then you only need to double click on the backup exe. file (which should be on your SD card) and "Walla" you get it all back without having to waste hours in reloading your original programs.
Hey all,
I know this is a newbie-ish question but i want to update my HD2 with a new rom and im aware i need to back everything up, my questions are:
1.whats the best program to back up
2. what will backing up actually back up? And what will i loose? i.e contacts/messages/apps etc..
3. any other tips on backing up will be much appreciated.
4. anyone just wanna do it for me
Thanks in advance.
i Suggest you SPB BackUp; it allows you to backup Everything on your phone, (contacts,messages, registry, etc.. and also the apps (but i'm not sure o.o)
It's not free, but let you a try for a period.
http://spb.com/products/backup/?en
EDIT: if your contacts are connected with their Facebook profile, you lose this relations when restore the agenda o.o'
djchubbs said:
Hey all,
I know this is a newbie-ish question but i want to update my HD2 with a new rom and im aware i need to back everything up, my questions are:
1.whats the best program to back up
2. what will backing up actually back up? And what will i loose? i.e contacts/messages/apps etc..
3. any other tips on backing up will be much appreciated.
4. anyone just wanna do it for me
Thanks in advance.
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Backing up and restoring anything other than PIM details across a different ROM flash its asking for trouble and its not recommended.
Use Myphone and all sync info will be to hand when needed.
Reinstall as many of your apps as possible to phone mem this will keep the phone running as sweet as possible.
Or 'PIM Backup' from DotFred
I use this one
pa49 said:
Backing up and restoring anything other than PIM details across a different ROM flash its asking for trouble and its not recommended.
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restoring a complete system (ALL data) is fine even after flashing a different rom. When using SPB backup you just have to make sure that you run the restore in "ROM upgrade mode". SPB Backup prompts you to do this automatically when it detects that the rom running isnt the same as the one the backup was created with.
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restoring a complete system (ALL data) is fine even after flashing a different rom. When using SPB backup you just have to make sure that you run the restore in "ROM upgrade mode". SPB Backup prompts you to do this automatically when it detects that the rom running isnt the same as the one the backup was created with.
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Sorry to disagree, but, Ive seen too many problems happen by doing this. Never seen any by not doing it!!!!!!!!
However, it's all advice and can be taken or not as the reader sees fit.
thanks for the advice guys, one thing, when installing spb backup does it make a difference where i install it? ie device or storage card?
pa49 said:
Sorry to disagree, but, Ive seen too many problems happen by doing this. Never seen any by not doing it!!!!!!!!
However, it's all advice and can be taken or not as the reader sees fit.
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You are right to state that you should use caution but i personally have never had an issue when using rom upgrade mode.
I use it all the time! (On all my devices)
djchubbs said:
thanks for the advice guys, one thing, when installing spb backup does it make a difference where i install it? ie device or storage card?
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Doesnt make much difference... i always install all of my apps onto the storage card as it saves re-installing them after a hard reset or if you have a new device.
The only items i install to main memory are the ones that are integral to the system ie/ task managers, manila mods etc
I think the best way for a complete backup is sashimi application and its plugin makisu
sashimi is not very simple but, once you've configured it how you want, you can be sure you'll have the same apps, same tweaks, same registry improvements, same email settings, same wifi settings and so on.
So you can change rom whenever you want, without waste time to re-configure and re-install and so on.
sashimi can do also a backup of your personal informations, but for these I recommend PPC-PIMBackup (the easyest and simply the best for these kind of stuff)
There is also a dedicated forum
Give it a try, I use it with satisfaction
greetings