I use a no brand Stereo BT headset on the Atom and found the quality is unacceptable poor. I just want to confirm if it's just me or it's a common problem for Atom.
I found the BT stereo quality very poor too. Tried
1. i-Tech S35
2. Gobalsat BT-830 (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
3. Nokia HS-12W (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
quality is way worser compared with the original headphone that came with Atom. I read somewhere this was due to the poor audio chipset used in Atom. Any way to fix that?
BTW, all the above 3 Bluetooth stereo headsets have excellent audio output when listening music from PC (using Widcomm 4.0.1.2800).
I believe it was due to the BT version used. I too tried
1. i-Tech R35 (V1.2)
2. Nokia HS-12W (V2.0)
When pairing both of them with Atom, the sound quality is not that good (always got hissing sound). The same applies when I use the i-Tech headset with my 818pro.
On the other hand, when I use the Nokia headset with 818pro (A2DP enabled), the quality becomes quite good (no significant difference from wired headsets). BTW, I think the Moto BT headset supports V2.0 too, and seems ppl around got some good experience with it and 818pro.
As I mainly use my Atom nowadays (my 818pro got the screen misalignment problem unfortunately), I already forgot about BT headsets.
From all you guys comments, I am not alone in having poor A2DP quality. It's a shame for giving out A2DP but unacceptable quality. :evil:
I-tech S35
Thanks so much for that information. I was really tempted to "upgrade" to an Atom from my Mini because the former had the built in bluetooth so it's a good thing to know I shouldn't upgrade because I was really after the A2DP functionality (since I thought the full release a2dp would be much better than the mini's "hacked" a2dp).
Maybe the stack used on the Atom is not that good. Have you tried upgrading the ROM?
[email protected]
what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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goldsaint said:
what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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How's it compared with the using the original headset came with your Atom? For me, bluetooth A2DP is way worse.
I used the same i-Tech clip S35 on XDA 2i, and the A2DP qualitiy is as good as the wired headset came with XDA 2i.
Thanks.
Wired vs Wireless
ok, with the regular wired stereo headset the sound is Ok, but not that good if i compare to my ipod video.
i highly prefer the a2dp system as it seems ur inside a nightclub while using it.
but if i have to choose between the wired headsets or the HT820, i would rather go with the BT headset.
the only thing, is that dangerous for life ? (like getting brain cancer etc... wish not..)
As I mentioned before, I have tested all the combinations for 818pro, Atom (both with latest rom) and two BT headsets i-Tech R35 and Nokia HS-12W, and only found that the BT 2.0 combination, ie, 818pro with HS-12W, produces good enough music quality. For all other combinations, there is always some pretty obvious hizzing sound around when playing a soung. That hizzing sound is not background sound, as it won't appear if I stop playing any song. It only appears when a certain part of a song is played.
It seems to me that the hizzing sound is caused by insufficient bandwidth or over-compression of the data transmission (or both?). This also matches with my test result.
If I am using the 818pro (it is pending for repair), I will surely bring the HS-12W around. Otherwise, I will just stick with my wired adapter + Sony headset.
possible sol guys.
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
Re: possible sol guys.
goldsaint said:
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
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AKU 2.0 comes with support for A2DP.
In the case for XDA Atom, A2DP was supported on the day O2 released Atom.
A2DP quality in Atom was poor regardless of the Rom version, I tried the following roms:
1. 20060123B1WWE
2. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060123_Feb2006_.exe
3. R060221N_MN1ARC_RS00045
4. DSUU_ARC_C060414WWE_R060327N_EX0016__test_only_not_for_sale
5. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060426B1WWE
As described by buruburu, hizzing sound appears when a certain part of a song is played. Turning On/Off the equalizer doesn't seem to have any effect.
When listening the same song using wired headset, the quality was good, so can't be the problem of the song I am listening.
When listening the same Song using my PC (BT 1.2 with Widcomm 4.0.1.2800 stack), the quality was good as well.
So, no problem with the song I am listening, no problem with the BT Stereo headset I am using, no problem with the BT version (1.2 in Atom, 1.2 in PC; don't have BT 2.0, so can't tell) I am using, and my BT headset works fine making/receiving phone calls.
Conclusion:
1. the BT stack in Atom has a problem;
2. the audio chipset in Atom was a cheap and lousy one;
3. my Atom has a problem (I am in UK, don't have another Atom to test)
If it's (1), hope someone can fix it!!![/i]
tcmp
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
Re: tcmp
goldsaint said:
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
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Aha! Finally found this topic. I'm on O² Atom + Jabra BT620s. The headset sound quality is superb stable on pc (5mb limit Bluesoil). On Atom... WM10 sounds too low even volume maxed, the equalizer doesn't work on A2DP. The best is on TCPMP where I can blast the pre-amp to make it louder. The quality is "ok²", hisses are seldom but hiccups exists once or twice in wma/mp3 tracks and too bad headset playback function only work on WM10 not TCPMP. And to click my headset when answering calls, I've to set TCPMP not to play on background, after clicking, I've to increase the headset volume.
Does any of you guys who's using other than Atom experience hiccups on A2DP? And those with Atom other than goldsaint? I don't think it's Jabra's but Atom fault itself. I've only SmallMenuPlus and O²Plus running in background (all startup removed), no battery/space monitors on today and overclocked to constant stable 520Mhz with XCPUScalar on the latest firmware. Thank you...
Am using I-Tech Clip S with my ATOM and sound quality is EXcellent!!! No hissing sound at all.
I highly recommend taking a look at the following,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54621
I had the same complaint, but these registry edits cleared up my quality problems almost entirely.
Tweaked the bitpool settings to 53 but did not recognize any improvement. The other 2 tweaks is useless for me-- whenever i used my I-Tech Clip S BT headset/wireless stereo, can't hear the other callers voice. Streaming audio to my Clip-S is OK but no noticeable difference.
Cheers
I've tried my two bluetooth stereo headset on HP-2210 , DOPOD 818Pro and O2 Atom,one thing is certain,the sound qulilaty in O2 Atom is worst and poor.I consider the problem is ROM Firmware.
Some of the tweaks cause more harm than good
I removed all traces of these tweaks by doing a hard-reset, and my bt stereo is just fine with the occassional break. 8)
IMHO we should not just apply every tweak just because someone posted :twisted: EG some one claims he installed Atom Exec ROM on regular Atom Now he has vamoosed when asked to share. Some one posted a 4-letter word due to the mess he had when he followed that line :twisted:
Not to go against the current trend, but I entered the following into the reg editor and it made a huge improved in the sound quality using the Samsung SBH-100 headphones.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]
"BitPool"=dword:00000053
"SampleRate"=dword:00044100
Still get the occasional skip but fingers crossed something will come up to fix this soon.
Hi,
I've got the A2DP hack working on my charmer with an i-tech s35 adapter.
The sound is ok but not as good as a wired connection. There seems to be slight high frequency noise.
I've tried the registry fixes with regard to bitpool etc but they don't seem to make a difference.
Could anyone else with a2dp working on their charmer please confirm the quality they are getting.
Could it be that the registry quality settings don't work on a hacked a2dp or could the quality of the wma's have more of an effect whilst using a2dp rather than wired?
Also, the sound is quieter. is there a way to alter this in the registry?
cheers
pjam
pjam said:
Hi,
I've got the A2DP hack working on my charmer with an i-tech s35 adapter.
The sound is ok but not as good as a wired connection. There seems to be slight high frequency noise.
I've tried the registry fixes with regard to bitpool etc but they don't seem to make a difference.
Could anyone else with a2dp working on their charmer please confirm the quality they are getting.
Could it be that the registry quality settings don't work on a hacked a2dp or could the quality of the wma's have more of an effect whilst using a2dp rather than wired?
Also, the sound is quieter. is there a way to alter this in the registry?
cheers
pjam
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I am also using A2DP hack on my charmer and on my prophet with motorola HT-820,
and you are right abut the sound quality.
it is definitely not as good as wired connection,
it is quieter, and it is have a kind of metalic sound in high frequency.
but i have tried using my friend's HP stereo headset for a while,
and the sound was a lot better.
can you tell me what registry settings do you changed in your charmer?
thanks.
Hi,
I tried the stuff posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-269638.html
I'm in the process of trying a different player that allows me to mess with the equalizer settings. (I can't get TCPMP equalizer to work and WMP10 obviously doesn't have one)
pjam
pjam said:
Hi,
I tried the stuff posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-269638.html
I'm in the process of trying a different player that allows me to mess with the equalizer settings. (I can't get TCPMP equalizer to work and WMP10 obviously doesn't have one)
pjam
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you can try PocketMusic. google it.
pjam said:
Hi,
I tried the stuff posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-269638.html
pjam
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thanks man, this registry settings improved the sound qualty.
its not perfect, but its definitely an improvment.
thanks again.
shay.
No problem,
out of interest, what bit rate and format are your music files?
cheers
pjam
pjam said:
No problem,
out of interest, what bit rate and format are your music files?
cheers
pjam
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I use MP3 with bitrate from 96KBPS to 320KBPS (depend what song).
It has been since I got a Magician that I would have liked to use a mono BT headset for listening to audio. Unfortunately, it seems it was not possible with WM2003.
When I got my new Polaris I immediately installed Teksoft BlueMusic (http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=bluemusic) and ... aargh, it did not work! (Why? Who knows.)
So I started searching around and I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358669 I downloaded BTAwm6.cab, installed it on the Storage Card and run it. Immediately the Media Player output sound moved from the speaker the BT headset. Eureka!
thank you for sharing.
analog
Or use this files to open or close AG
Hello guys,
i have the BT headset Sony DS220 and it works well but i want to make it better. Is there any equalizer to increase the bass level for the device? I tried WOW HD but well, i didn't feel the difference.
thanks,
I have an HTC Mogul. I searched everywhere to find this file, but they all referenced a Triangle powers link that was defunct. I now am playing audio from Windows Media player over my Bluetooth headset in a Windows Mobile 6 environment. Thank-you very much.
Hi gang,
I have been a long time Atom user. One thing that has constantly bugged me is the audio level - both in the earpiece and on Bluetooth connection to my car. Recently the IT manager at my work threw me a HTC Touch Dual (Nike) to evaluate for him. The audio (sound) level on both the earpiece and the same Bluetooth connection for the Nike is 100% better. Is there a ROM available that addresses the poor sound on the Atom or is it a restriction based on the hardware ?
I have tried a stack of searches however can't find anything that addresses this specifically ???
Phil...
OK.
Does anyone know of any registry hacks that help with $hitty audio levels for the Atom ???
After may searches there are heaps of people complaining about audio levels - not may solutions though.
Pleaseeeeee help the IT manager will be asking for the Nike back soon....
have you try SRS WOW HD plugin? it will amplify the audio
plus if u still think its soft, use the equalizer to amplify further.
Tabbe said:
have you try SRS WOW HD plugin? it will amplify the audio
plus if u still think its soft, use the equalizer to amplify further.
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Thanks Tabbe,
Two things looks like I need to upgrade the ROM to WM6.x to use SRS is that right ???
I may not have been clear enough - mainly concerned with audio levels for the phone - first in the earpiece and second for the built in speakers. Will SRS assist for these ???
Phil...
Can anyone please point me towards a software equaliser that will work on the Touch (Elf) using bluetooth headphones
Many thanks
I dnt think there is a equalizer of tht sort, once i used TCPMP which has a equalizer. try it out.
thanks I will give it a go and report back
There is a eq for HTC Touch.
Its called ' Audio Booster ' made by htc and it is present in the ONYX 4.6 ultimate ROM but it only works for headphones, not speakers.
Thanks.
Thanks for that info Jeremy89632, that sounds a better bet as TCPMP looks a bit problematic and now unsupported.
However as your option means a ROM upgrade I am a little wary as I have never done anything like that. Can you, or anyone else, give me an idiots guide to updating my ROM please.
Audio booster is available by default in Touch..but it works only when a handsfree is connected to the phone..it doesnt work wit BT handsfree. giv it a try.
In regards to rom flashing, read the wiki or jump to elf upgrading section and do a study.
[email protected], I cannot find any equalizer on my touch either with or without BT, so I guess it is only available after the ROM upgrade. I will have a look at the wiki and see if I feel confident to have aa go
Audio poster is present in recent roms and it only work when the device is paired to BT headset or a carkit
there was an old prog called SRS WOW that work on device directly but it has limited functions
leswaller said:
[email protected], I cannot find any equalizer on my touch either with or without BT, so I guess it is only available after the ROM upgrade. I will have a look at the wiki and see if I feel confident to have aa go
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I own a Elfin and I do have the audio booster when I bought it. And this doesnt work when using a BT Handsfree. Works only with a wired handsfree.
AFA SRS WOW, it workd gr8 for my music in Elfin, but somehw or othr it played havoc on my in-call volume and ringin volume. So removed it.
music normally cannot be olayed on bluetooth you need a cab called BTaudio
Well, you can upgrade your ROM to the stock ROM if you worry, and if im not wrong, the stock rom contains audio booster.