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freemanquna said:
do any one know which radio is stable and consume less energy?
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I'll leave it to others to give advice on which radio to use. It might be worth installing danielherrero's (one of our own developers) bandswitch application http://www.commmgrpro.com/ You could use this to limit phone to certain bands only with an easy interface. Would allow you to check out exactly what is causing the drain on battery.
Mike
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Sorry, got me stumped. So with no radios on the consumption is double that when wifi is on!!
Let's see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Mike
infinite loop perhaps??
What ROM/Radio versions are you running? EDIT:: seen the ROMs, perhaps try updating to a newer dopod ROM??
Also what 3rd party apps have you got installed??
(RESCO was a ***** for doing this to my TyTN)
the exact same thing happens to me. i've charged it completely, it obviously got really hot. usually at this point, i would take out the battery and let it cool off before turning the phone on, otherwise it would get even hotter and eat 300+ mA and drain the battery fast. this time i opened the wi-fi connection and immediately the battery status dropped from 332 mA to 130, and stayed down there. the phone even cooled down a bit. after i've turned off the wi-fi, it started draining and heating again. what can i do? is it a software or hardware problem? i'm using schaps 4.31, 1.47.30.10, have google maps, palringo, opera, tcpmp installed
I have the same behavior, too.
But not yesterday evening. After restarted it for the xxx time it staid at 28mA. This was so until I left the train in the morning. It went up to 347mA and I am not able to get it back to 28.
I am using the default HTC ROM "HTC_TyTN_GER_3.54.257.2_103_6275_1.47.00.10_108".
I also tried several other ROMS (Schaps, Pays ...) and different radio versions as "HERM_Radinly_1.16.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.10_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.30.10_CustomRUU" and "HERM_Radinly_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU"
but none of them helped me out.
I also done the Exchange Server trick, deactivated 3G and even deactivated all GPRS or EDGE possibilities from provider side.
demichef
Phone gets hot
Hi,
I am not an expert but I had the same problem with my phone, I solved the problem by moving some software I had on my storage card to the internal memory, (in my case it was the encryption and additional language support software I had)
Another way is to look for the Power management tweak in this forum which helps to manage your storage cards power draining,
Sound strange but it worked for me.
Good luck
Hi,
the new battery has arrived.
There is no change in battery draining
What I recognized is, that if the battery is "cold" the power consumtion is around 28mA. But after a call it is getting warm and uses 10 time so much of power.
Please don't laugh now:
I put the battery inside my freezer for 5 minutes. Put it back inside the mobile ...
... 28mA.
If I keep it cold it stays fine for 3 days.
There must be any solution on that.
demichef
During the last week I experienced some strange behaviour on my HD2. I want to point out that in general I am very happy with it, but now I wonder whether my device is faulty or weather this is a feature.
What I have seen:
- my device had some sudden reboots when using it in my car, charging with car charger
- this happens only when outside temeperature is close to 30 degrees C or above
- it happens after some time (10 - 15 min) using Navigon or even just doing Bluetooth calls
- it usually stops charging the device, the LED is then blinking green & orange, then reboot
- I recognize that the device is very hot
- after cooling down it has lost the power settings
I found two other threads dealings with similiar effects
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707477
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627884
and now want to do some detailed anaylsis here. I installed BattClock (great tool!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612083
to monitor the battery temparatur and found the following:
- idle phone (office, not charging, 3G connect, push mail activated): 25 - 30°C
- phone in use (office, not charging, checking mails etc): 30 - 34°
- idle charging (as idle phone, plus charging): 30 - 34°
- phone in use, charging in car, summer temp 28°): temperuture rises up to 47°
The last case ended with a reboot, when coming up again the temperature was 47.1 degrees, green / orange was bblinking and charging has stopped. Before crashing the temperature raised from 33 to 47° within 15 minutes.
Can anybody confirm whether he can run the HD2 wíth 47° and above? I would like to understand whether I shoul return my phone under warranty or whether this is a feature. 47° is high - though I do not think too high??? I also got the impression that this issue is coming up more and more frequently with my phone and as the summer just has started this could mean I need to stop charging while driving. How to use navigation?
Any comments or ideas?
Regards Hase
Well Hase,
I've seen this a few times in the past when driving running CoPilot, Bluetooth, screen bright and charging.
In the last week, with a new ROM base and significantly warmer weather, I've seen this with just having the phone in the car charging.
Very interested (and actively hunting) a manual underclock to see if it helps.
I don't think this is a defect, but it does happen.
I've noticed it too a alot during the NE heatwave in the US.
I'm waiting it out for now.
47C is not too hot though, although maybe there could be some kind of feature with the processor?
Yeah I've noticed it too. I was driving in my car running Bing Navigation with no problems for about 2 hours with the windows up and the ac on in my car. 10 minutes after I opened the windows when it was 101 F outside bing maps would randomly shut down and other apps would not even open. Closed the windows cranked the ac and held my phone in front of the vent to cool down and it went back to normal without even having to soft reset. Seems like a feature to prevent damage to the phone.
I would guess its some overheat protection feature with the processor, as its really the latest, which means sometimes it may get too hot ( you know, 1GHZ is really fast and thus may generate much more hrest than normal slower processors ) . Just like Intel's processors, which also shut off when the temperature rises over a certain programmed known "safe" temperature and reboots the computer, in hope that when its started again, it would be cooler. As for battery temperature, the cpu may be even hotter than the battery's temperature and thus it may seem that the phone shut off at a low temperature, but in actual, the processor is REALLY hot. And as its a mobile processor and its known that the second hottest factor is charging/discharging the battery, charging may be temporarily disabled until it cools down to a "safe" temperature to prevent overheating/buring out other components. But that's just what I think. Best to check with Qualcomm or HTC if possible as it may also be a defect in the phone. Hope this helps.
I haven't experienced any reboots but I have had problems with my HD2 locking up due to excessive heat.
Leaving it in direct sunlight means I'm unable to unlock the phone due to the lack of response from the screen.
Yesterday my HD2 was charging in its cradle and wi-fi was on. The device got hot and became unresponsive and I ended up putting it in the fridge for 10 mins which brought it back to life.
The HD2 definitely has an issue with high temps, the screen in particular.
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Very interested (and actively hunting) a manual underclock to see if it helps.
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Have you tried LeoCpuSpeed?
I have had this problam as well. It also happened with my Touch Pro 2 when in the car, sun, Copilot, etc...
My fix was kind of a lucky guess. I have AC vents that blow on the windows of the doors when it is on the defrost setting. I just have the windshield mount sitting kind of over the vent for the drivers window. It is not quite in a direct line with the window, but enough AC comes out of it to get to the device and cool it.
When I do this, it goes from a rather toasty to the touch to rather cold actually. Even with the rubber "case" on it it keeps it down to a reasonable temp, if not below, with it charging, GPS going, bluetooth stereo and WMP all going.
Since popping it into the airflow it has not even gotten warm let alone started the warning flashes and such.
Kind of an obvious one, but those are the most often overlooked so I figured I would add it in.
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My fix was kind of a lucky guess. I have AC vents that blow on the windows of the doors when it is on the defrost setting. I just have the windshield mount sitting kind of over the vent for the drivers window. It is not quite in a direct line with the window, but enough AC comes out of it to get to the device and cool it.
When I do this, it goes from a rather toasty to the touch to rather cold actually. Even with the rubber "case" on it it keeps it down to a reasonable temp, if not below, with it charging, GPS going, bluetooth stereo and WMP all going.
Since popping it into the airflow it has not even gotten warm let alone started the warning flashes and such.
Kind of an obvious one, but those are the most often overlooked so I figured I would add it in.
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In fact that was my solution too. I changed my cradle using one putting the HD2 in front of an AC outlet and now everything is fine. Just make sure the lower part of the HD2 where the USB cable is connected is not covered by the cradle or any cover as this is the place where the cold wind has to blow. Battery temp remains well below 30° C, if driving longer distances even below 20°. I am not sure whether I will get too low? And I do not now yet what will happen in winter when we get it freezing cold and heating will step in.
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Have you tried LeoCpuSpeed?
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Does anybody have tried underclocking yet? Would be good to now whether this could be an option too. Sometimes even using the HD2 on hot days (without charging!) gets the temp up to 38° C plus. Best thing is not to hold it on the lower part.
I am wondering that still only some people get this problems. Either everybody is ACed (not poss in my convertable) or the problem is only with some HD2 or some ROM. Has anybody noticed any other strange behaviour after an overheating occured? I noticed some issues during the last months which I could not yet connect to any other reason. I am not sure whether I have had overheating bevor these occured the first time:
- all of a sudden bluetooth connex to my car was not poss any more
- all of a sudden pocket xls application and the note application got very very slow
- all of a sudden POP connect to google Mail did not show any mails any more.
These effects did not show up the first time all together, they came one after another, one per month since March. And probably I have had overheating earlier without even noticing it
Regards Hase
Hi, i have the same problem with overheating ... it stop charging when Battery Temperature reach 45°C. Battery PINS are all OK and clean
First : My Leo has Radio 2.11 (2.12 same problem)
OEM 2.10 (My own ROM)
Today Test : Go back to original ROM 1.66 (Radio 2.06) and my HD2 does not overheat ! Strange
I can see with PowerGuard that the charging current slow down when the temperature go up and reach max 42.3°C
Tomorrow Test : Radio 2.06 and my ROM with OEM 2.10 ... if do not overheat then i try with Radio 2.08 (more RAM ... TMOUS) ....
to be continued ...
Today Test with Original Firmware 1.66 and Radio 2.06 has problem too
Ordered new original Battery from Brack.ch ... when battery comes make new test to see if it's the battery or HD2.
Strange is that the battery is not so hot but the charge circuit of the HD2 is very Hot. (Hottest place is between SD CARD and SIM Card)
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- all of a sudden POP connect to google Mail did not show any mails any more.
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Hello,
I experienced the same sudden shut downs (not reboots) during the last days as well ("hopefully" only due to the very hot weather). And none of my POP3 account seem to work right now!
The internet connectivity seems to be okay, and of course I haven't changes any mail settings... but I cannot receive or send any mails. I get no error message when I try to receive mails but when I click on the new mail button my HD2 asks me to set up a new mail connection!
Any solution found to this problem?
Kind Regards,
DW!
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And none of my POP3 account seem to work right now!
The internet connectivity seems to be okay, and of course I haven't changes any mail settings... but I cannot receive or send any mails. I get no error message when I try to receive mails but when I click on the new mail button my HD2 asks me to set up a new mail connection!
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On my side the problem is a bit different. POP3 seems to work fine (also no errors) but does not receive mails. Sending is o.k. And this problem is only with gmail, other accounts work like before.
What about pxl on your device?
Regards Hase
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What about pxl on your device?
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What do you mean? What's "pxl"?
Do you already tried to set up the account from scratch again? That's what I intent to try later at home...
Regards,
DW!
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What do you mean? What's "pxl"?
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PXL is Microsoft Excel on Windows Mobile. On my HD2 it takes about 2 minutes now until it open either the list of xls files or a dedicated xls.
DW! said:
Do you already tried to set up the account from scratch again?
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Yes I did, but with the same result, does not receive emails...
I had my HD2 heat up to about 48degs when in use while charging it. No problems encountered. Perhaps its defective. Send to HTC for repair?
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PXL is Microsoft Excel on Windows Mobile. On my HD2 it takes about 2 minutes now until it open either the list of xls files or a dedicated xls.
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Hmmm, that's no problem on my HD2 - Mobile Excel is opening as fast as ever...
I have now deleted 2 of my 4 mail accounts and re-installed them; the other 2 I simply have re-installed withour prior erasure - and this seem to do the job! Indeed I have done this more than once now, but 3 accounts now already received test mails... the 4th is a freemail account which I can only use every 15min. via POP3/IMAP...
cccy said:
I had my HD2 heat up to about 48degs when in use while charging it. No problems encountered. Perhaps its defective. Send to HTC for repair?
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But what was the outside temperature? I think the overheating has to do mainly with using the phone (gps) while charging in a hot environment inside of a car.
Just charging the phone shouldn't use the processor to any significant point.
Just my $.02.
I could not believe it what I read here, but now the high temperatures in Austria caused the same problems on my HD2 when navigating in my car. HD2 after 2-5 minutes blinks orange-green (no loading) and after maximum 10-15 minutes crashes.
Unfortunately I have to rely on navi-function for my upcoming vacation. No solution to place the HD2 in AC-stream in my car with this stupid original HTC-Car-Navi-Holder.
When driving in the heat of noon I don´t even have to switch it on, just mounting into the loading-cradle is enough to make the HD2 crash after 10-15 minutes, only 3G on, nothing else (no BT, WiFi, HSPA, no app running etc.)
Until now I was quite satisfied with the HD2, had no crashes or malfunctions so far, but now I am really fed up with this piece of sh.. and I don´t think there will be a hardware or software-solution (except swichting it off) since the HD2 is malconstructed.
This was the last time I bought a HTC product ............... Crap at a high price I can have with an iPhone too ................
I have had a rooted epic for a few months now and have been experiencing a lot of software difficulties recently. I am using Epic Experience Froyo, but I have switched to other roms and still experience the problems (which I have researched but have yet to find a cure). I have times where the screen will turn black and unresponsive, yet the capacitive buttons at the bottom are still lit up, and it will either restart the phone at the lock screen and regain signal or I will have to manually take the battery out. Sometimes I get the same issue except the screen just freezes. Other times (even if the phone is idle in my pocket) it will randomly reboot and I can feel it vibrating in my pocket. I have done many full factory resets w/oden. Everytime I get the problem it seems to gradually get more severe.
I would love for any input to work towards a solution.
Thanks,
Dylan.
Sounds exactly like the problems I was experiencing with my Evo. Do you overclock your phone by any chance? Or have you ever installed lagfix applications?
I overclocked once for about 2 days @ 1.2ghz, but then reverted to regular. For a long time I had Juice Defender installed.
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I overclocked once for about 2 days @ 1.2ghz, but then reverted to regular. For a long time I had Juice Defender installed.
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Ok, so as far as juice defender is concerned, what are its performance characteristics? Did you ever use quadrant to see what it was putting up? I doubt the overclock for such a short period of time is what would've caused so many problems, but from my experiences, any of these add ons that take your quadrant and almost double it are usually ones that can cause some permanent damage on the phone. I used to run what was called Snap Turbo which was a performance tweaking apk attached to a linked kernal that used to go well with CM6. Well, turbo mode does exactly what ViperSpeed lag fix does. As soon as I started messing around with the Snap Turbo, that's when my screen used to become unresponsive, phone used to freeze, and I would get random reboots almost 10x per day. After I started experiencing these issues, I could never revert back to another Rom or even go back to stock without getting the same issues. I ended up getting rid of that Evo and getting another. As soon as I rooted my next one, random reboots started but not as frequently. Basically, I believe that rooting your phone is going to cause SOME issues. Constantly messing around with it will result in A LOT of issues. It's almost unavoidable and some folks are lucky enough to never experience any issues, but that's the risk you take if you want all the benefits that come with hacking the phone. I hope you find a setup on your phone that isn't so unreliable but I doubt there's anything you can do to completely fix it. I hope I'm wrong, though, because anything you do to fix those issues would be a great help to us all if we end up in the same boat in the future...God forbid!
Juice Defender mainly just altered settings with the wireless connectivity (Like stopping it from using wireless network when the phone is idle). I've also thought about this... I am using 3 different batteries, 1 is default battery, and the other 2 are of a cheap $10 ebay set.
hey guys...i was getting great battery life on di18 and dk28 but for the last week its sucked i loss on average 8-10% an hour (setCPU at 200-1000 ondemand and 200-200 sreen off) i have calibrated my battery twice and still no luck as soon as i take it off the charger it drops to 95% any thing else i can try? thanks for the help
Hi,
I recently sent my HD2 for repair, because it had heat issues and GPS couldn't get a lock. Now I've got my HD2 back, but when I try to use the GPS, it either doesn't find signal at all or when I use for example Google Maps or TomTom, it causes the phone to reboot. I've used the QuickGPS software to get a faster lock, but this doesn't resolve the issue.
Also the heat issues still exist. Whenever I wan't to watch videos etc., the device heats up a lot and causes the phone to reboot. The bottom of the device gets always very hot.
The service center did change the touch screen, chassis and installed "HotFix-update", but these didn't solve anything. Does this mean, that the service center changed wrong parts? What actually can cause heat and GPS freezing/rebooting issues?
I'm now using stock WinMo 6.5 and the ROM version is WWE 3.14 and the radio version is 2.15.50.14.
Watching video or any activity that constantly uses the screen also uses a lot of battery power and it will get very warm/hot.
Have you tried any other software to test gps usage?
Do you have ALL the settings for Google/gps/locations and maps set up in the correct manner?
Do you have a case or any other protection on the phone - if so remove it
If your ambient temps are high this just compounds any issues with heat
first time to hear that
will be very carful
johnerz said:
Watching video or any activity that constantly uses the screen also uses a lot of battery power and it will get very warm/hot.
Have you tried any other software to test gps usage?
Do you have ALL the settings for Google/gps/locations and maps set up in the correct manner?
Do you have a case or any other protection on the phone - if so remove it
If your ambient temps are high this just compounds any issues with heat
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I was able to get the GPS working fine. However it doesn't work in Android. If I turn on the GPS and the GPS starts looking signal and when it founds it, it causes instant freeze. This is a real mystery to me. What can cause this issue? WinMo 6.5 with WWE 3.14 and 2.15.50.14, GPS works great, but when I switched to nand Android RAFDROID 4.0.2, the GPS doesn't work anymore. Or it does work, it does look for the signal and everything, but when it founds it, it causes instant freeze. Screen stays on, nothing happens.
I should point out, that I was having this same exact problem, prior the repair. And some time ago, I was still able to get the GPS working in various versions of nand Android. But now, whatever Android build I use, I have the same issue. Something in Android is messing the GPS module.
The heat is not that bad of a problem in Android, so I can live with that. I'm not using any bumpers or any other protection.
hi if you sent it back to htc repair center contact them again and say problem still there they should replace phone for you
Send it back for replacement. Yeah the phones become warmer under certain conditions but I use mine to watch hour long XviDs one after the other in the sun and I have no such issues. It takes constant downloading of data with GPS locked and loads of apps open for mine to warm up! Sounds like you need a mainboard replacement to be honest, surprised they didn't switch the boards the first time and test .
I've never had mine reboot or go crazy on me due to heat, at worse the battery temp check kicked in in WM while charging to switch off charge (flashing orange led) with my cheap Chinese battery
Sent from my Nexus One
I have heard that the high temperature causes by 3g... If you use 3g data, try to disable it and then try gps and movies again.
The conclusion, btw, is to sent the phone back for repair or replacement.
Same here my brother's hd2 working perfectly fine but mine every time temperature exceeds 33 celcius gps cause phone reboot and if i manage to turn gps on can't find fix
I got my phone up to ~42C while I was working in an auto garage and I still don't have reboot. If your phone reboots at a certain temperature, your phone is defective, and try to get it replaced by warranty, or you could try to modify your phone to fix the issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454
Hey guys,
I've been with the forum for a couple of years already but got caught of guard recently. I got a mytouch4g in december and it had been working great except for power amp and one or two other programs that I obtained and installed. I reset the phone to factory and reinstalled everything and it started running great again. Mind you, I haven't rooted the phone or really had the need to since it does everything that I've wanted to do to it if I were to root it. Recently in the past couple of days though, the performance has SEVEARLY dropped. Its dropped to the point where the swype on the phone won't even function properly half of the time. I've continue to soft reset the phone hoping it'll clear out the OS and function properly but it keeps slowing down. I was hoping someone may have been receiving the same issues and might be able to help me out. Also, I've noticed that whenever I'm in an area where I have poor coverage, the phone begings to heat up a lot and drains my battery. At work its been happening but it stopped when i managed to connect to the wireless. Its still consuming a pretty high amount of my battery though. I've tried searching for these symptoms but wasn't able to find anything.
Any help is greatly apprceiated, I know this community is one of the best out there. Thanks guys!
Also, has anyone been receiving any issues with their wireless radio or their cell radio with the phone is tilted on its right side to view videos?
When you notice the issue happening, try to go into settings>about phone>battery>battery use and see what is consuming most of your battery-sometimes certain apps you download can cause issues....
Yes, problem is definitely with one of your apps. Get watchdog lite and monitor your system for couple of days to see what takes up resources. Or, start fresh and add apps one by one and see where you start having problems. Also, certain live wallpapers can bog down system beyond believe... learned it the hard way.
As far as radio perfomance - every phone will have a certain position in which signal degrades. Just a nature of the beast.... something will always block antennas one way or another.