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PC, WiFi, PPC, IP solution?

OK so after having problems connecting my XDA2s to my laptop via wifi to use it's ADSL connection, I began to realise it was a major issue for a lot of users.
Having covered almost all the threads here regarding PPC WiFi issues, I still am perplexed as to how the whole thing is successfully set up.
I concluded that it was virtually impossible; that the PC would not provide the PPC with an IP address so I would have to use some sort of application to manage the connection. However, yesterday for some reason only the omnipotent holy deities of the grandiose gods of WiFi would know, I had it working perfectly. For about 10 minutes, until I decided to disconnect to see if I could readily re-connect. My hopes were of course, dashed, and I have not had it working again since.
I have tried every combination of settings on both the laptop and the XDA to no avail, and have followed more threads and links than I can count on my fingers and toes. I've tried all the same settings I had when it was working (briefly) but still have no real success.
So basically, what's the deal with getting this damn thing working? Maybe what I need is a step by step idiot's guide on how to initially set up the wireless network on the laptop first, to make sure it has all the right settings? I'm using a Vaio running XP home (built in WiFi).
Has anyone completely resolved this problem yet? I would really like a solid, clean method of setting up the connection rather than stumbling through a million different combinations of settings and ending up with something hashed and unstable.
Many thanks for any help on this, I'm sure it's a tiresome subject for many.

......And as is always the case, as soon as you post about it you figure it out!
If anyone is still having trouble using their XDA2 to connect to a PC's ADSL via WiFi, ive got it figured!

RE: ive got it figured!
PLEASE HOW? I HAVE ALSO THE SAME PROBLEM HERE
THANKS

Me too. I have a XDA mini S.
I don't know what settings to put into the thing. I had it connected for a short while but when I went into internet explorer it started connecting to GPRS instead of WIFI to internet.
Clearly I haven't got a clue. The book is of no help either.
Any ideas?
Thanks

Think i'm connected to the internet. It doesm't seem to want a password although one is listed listed in the router. Just can't stop it going over GPRS instead of the wifi for intenet????

problem solved
Hi All
Ok heres what I did .
Connections
under my work network
set ,set up my proxy server to "this network connects to the Internet.
Then go to advanced
Under select networrks ,Network management,Set both to "my work network"
Network Card
Network adapters
"My network card connects to work
Then select the network card ie sandisk
tick Use specific ip address
type in 1 thats on your network ,It will connect but you wont be able to browse still
Then soft reboot
change from use ip adress to "server assigned ip address"
soft reboot
and bingo

no WiFi success after ROM update on 8125 -- ideas?

updated the ROM on my 8125 yesterday. wifi was working before-hand, i had included the DNS servers for my router, which is what i had to do to make it work!
did the same thing after the ROM update and cant get connected to any access points.
any ideas guys?
thanks

danrw84 said:
updated the ROM on my 8125 yesterday. wifi was working before-hand, i had included the DNS servers for my router, which is what i had to do to make it work!
did the same thing after the ROM update and cant get connected to any access points.
any ideas guys?
thanks
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Does wifi turn on? (Does the left LED blink like it does when wifi is turned on?)
If not, then it could be related to a cingular cab - did you install any of the cabs from the original cingular extended rom?

left led does blink.
ive also gotten as far as picking up a network.
i have tried everything, i cannot get my wifi to work at all. i dont know whats up.
the settings i needed (which i replicated for the new rom) on the old rom, was this
I would select networks, MY work network, this connects to the internet.
then in the WLAN adapter i had to manual enter my dns servers.
thats pretty much it to get it to work, but now with this rom it wont

Similar or different problem? Not sure. PARTLY SOLVED!
updated the ROM on my 8125 yesterday. wifi was working before-hand, i had included the DNS servers for my router, which is what i had to do to make it work!
did the same thing after the ROM update and cant get connected to any access points.
any ideas guys?
thanks
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Hi NG,
I updated my O2 XDA mini s (German) from OS 1.3.4.2 to 2.16.9.1. (Radio 02.07.10 included). To be honest, I was never really happy with the quality and reliabilty of the radio. 4 out of 5 times it did work, but once in a while, especially while roaming, it gave me a headache. After unlocking and updating to the new version, WLAN looks to be working quite well, at least for connecting to access points, but it seems that it can't browse external websites. VXutils give back a socket error trying to access external (outside my home network) websites/Email.
Internal (inside my home network) connections work like a charm. Termincal Services client accesses my Win2003 Server no problem and I can also connect to a website hosted on my internal server. (http://servername:port).
Whenever I try to connect to external sources, the browser stops afer not successfully "locating" the respective server. On the other hand locating might not be the problem. Performing a ping to an external site with VXutils properly picks up the right ip address but cannot send/receive ping!
GPRS works as supposed. Can connect to sites with no problem.
May be somebody experiences the same problem or, even better, has a solution.
By the way I used @Work for all possible settings. The work profile is set up for both connection types.
Besides that, the new rom is really nice
EDIT Well after some time playing around, I have solved the problem or better the problem partly disapeared. In 'Settings' 'Network Adapters' I switched from Use server-assigned IP address to manual and entered IP, DNS, Gateway, etc. With these settings it everything worked after a soft-reset. Going back to DHCP and soft-reset, it first worked an now it doesn't anymore. At least there is a work around and I'm trying now some other things. All machines currently work with the DHCP settings correct. I will check and keep you updated if the problems comes from Server settings or from something in the PDA EDIT
Lars

i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!

danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?

kristiandg said:
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?
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did you change your Wizard to 802.11g. I found that once I did that, the card stopped working.. the setting was 4, but when i changed it to 8 it stopped worked..
it was some registry key. 802dotg or something ..
sorry i cant rember excatly.

did you change your Wizard to 802.11g. I found that once I did that, the card stopped working.. the setting was 4, but when i changed it to 8 it stopped worked..
it was some registry key. 802dotg or something ..
sorry i cant rember excatly.[/quote]
Darn it. I did. I'll re-wipe and not load the 54g upgrade. Thx.

kristiandg said:
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?
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Did you by chance install anything from the cingular extended ROM after you installed the imate ROM?

no i didnt load anything
but i want this wifi to work! what the heck!!

try this
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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Danrw. Concerning the registry settings, after patching the os I did change the registry settings. One already existed with the right value as shown in the 802.11g thread. The other one, DotG, I added.
After that, it did pick up a only G router!
As far as setting DNS manually. It is not enough to just cange the dns setting. You have to enter all the information and even after a soft-reset it takes some time to have the settings picked up... Use vxUTIL 'Info'-Screen to check the current settings. I did test wlan before and after applying packages from the extended rom. No change on reliability or performance on WLAN IMHO.
As far as I understand. Your problem is actually connecting to the router/Access Point. For testing please disable all security on your router and do a soft-reset before trying to access. Also since we have heard of several problems with model 9100 not realizing if an access point is available or not. Also change the SSID of your router and if possible the MAC Address of the router.
Don't forget to soft-reset and first try SDIO Adapter inyour pda with auto IP/DNS/etc. settings.
Another thought. Embarassing, but once I messed around with trying to get a new pda online and forgot to disable the mac filter settings in the router, which resulted in being able to see the active router but it didn't let me connect. After those two days I was missing a lot of hair.
Good luck
Lars

summiter said:
kristiandg said:
danrw84 said:
i get as far as NETWORKS being detected. when i select one of the 3 that i pick up, i cannot connect. My own, pops up, and i get as far as entering the network key, then it tries to connect and doesnt.
this happens WITH or WITHOUT the DNS servers manualy entered in. anyone with some knowledge care to chime in and assist? thanks!
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I can't get my WiFi card to initialize. After the upgrade, the card stays off. LED doesn't light. Is there a driver somewhere I could try to load?
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Did you by chance install anything from the cingular extended ROM after you installed the imate ROM?
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I did but only the minimum. I trimmed down their install to the basics. I narrowed it down to one of two CABs. Either the gprsstall or EnableEONS. I didn't install either of those and I"m now back up and running. Of course, I still can't get it to prefer WiFi to EDGE.

I had experienced the same problem with home wifi network after upgrading my rom. I saw in my laptop that the key was set to 2. I went to the network cards, clicked on my wifi network, and under Network Key swithed the value from 1 to 2. I can now connect to my wifi network at home.

eb said:
I had experienced the same problem with home wifi network after upgrading my rom. I saw in my laptop that the key was set to 2. I went to the network cards, clicked on my wifi network, and under Network Key swithed the value from 1 to 2. I can now connect to my wifi network at home.
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I had same problem after upgrading mda pro with new imate rom 1.30. Can you provide step-by-step tutorial please?I use d-link DSL-G604T wifi router; can connect to home network but when try to surf the web from ppc it always connect through gprs; no access if phone is off.Where can I find Network Key to switch?Any set-up on ppc?
Thanks

I had same problem after upgrading mda pro with new imate rom 1.30. Can you provide step-by-step tutorial please?I use d-link DSL-G604T wifi router; can connect to home network but when try to surf the web from ppc it always connect through gprs; no access if phone is off.Where can I find Network Key to switch?Any set-up on ppc?
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I do not know if my solution will work for you because I upgraded my rom to 2.16 but lets give it a try. I use d-link DI-524 wifi router. Start menu > Settings > Connections (tab) > Network Cards [I must admit earlier today when I was trying to connect my k-jam to the wifi, I did get as far as it asking me for my authentication code and afterwards it timed-out] --> select your wifi network [at this moment as I'm trying this out my wifi on my k-jam is off] --> Network Key (tab) > it was the key index that I had to change from 1 to 2. Before doing this though, go to your router's wireless configuration page through your webbrowser and make sure the keyX (it looks for d-link this can be from key1 to key4 or at least on mine) and make sure the key index you select on your mda is the same number that is used on your router for code authentication.
Also I noticed after resetting my k-jam that I could get connected to my wifi but I could not surf, in wifi setting on my k-jam I had to hit renew ip and then I was able to surf.
I hope this works for you. Good luck and many late nights.

no luck with this for me
even tried removing wep all together. tried multiple routers.
i can detect the ssid's, but i cant connect to them. times out on the connect.

Mine worked no problem...you may already have had this suggestion but here was my process.
Unlocked with lokwiz
Upgraded
Reset before extended ROM apps installed
Installed total commander
deleted extended ROM
Upgraded again

i re-installed the CINGULAR ROM and WiFi works like a charm
......any clues?

Here's what I ended up finding out for mine. First, at the time I wrote this, I was running the 2.16 ROM. Now I'm running the 2.17, but the fix is the same with either.
Don't load the cingular add-ins GPRSSTALL or EONS. I narrowed it down to those two that were causing the issue. So, the only ones I install now are CingularMMSAccount, EdgeIcon, TimeStyle, WiFiRate4, and SmartDialingEnable. Thats it, and its all I've seen to be necessary from Cingular's little bundle 'o fun. Everything else I haven't found interferes with my ability to use the phone at all.
Hope this helps...

kristiandg said:
Here's what I ended up finding out for mine. First, at the time I wrote this, I was running the 2.16 ROM. Now I'm running the 2.17, but the fix is the same with either.
Don't load the cingular add-ins GPRSSTALL or EONS. I narrowed it down to those two that were causing the issue. So, the only ones I install now are CingularMMSAccount, EdgeIcon, TimeStyle, WiFiRate4, and SmartDialingEnable. Thats it, and its all I've seen to be necessary from Cingular's little bundle 'o fun. Everything else I haven't found interferes with my ability to use the phone at all.
Hope this helps...
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What does timestyle and wifirate4 do? I don't have these installed and haven't seen any problems.

Cingular 8525 Wi-Fi issues

I've been having a bugger of a time with the Wi-Fi on my 8525. I keep getting a response that the WEP key is incorrect. I was able to connect once, and have since deleted my settings that the Wi-Fi network, but nothing I'm trying seems to get me connected.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

I had a problem with my Wifi working when I first got the phone. But since I wanted to SuperCid the phone I had to downgrade the IPL to do so. I re flashed to the same Cingular 1.34 with IPL 1.06. Since then I have not had any problems with the Wifi.

stsanford said:
I've been having a bugger of a time with the Wi-Fi on my 8525. I keep getting a response that the WEP key is incorrect. I was able to connect once, and have since deleted my settings that the Wi-Fi network, but nothing I'm trying seems to get me connected.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Here's a thought. Why not try the Hitchhiker application. It tends to get round quite a few issues in set up. Also once you've got it working and connected to Wifi you can close it down if you wan to and you'll find it has saved correct settings for your normal way of connecting to wifi. Another benefit is that you can cut the wep key from a text document and paste it into the box it gives you (saves a lot of hassle whenever you need to re-enter the key - which in my case is 28 letters digits long!!) WM5 box as you may have discovered does not allow wep pasting!!
You need to have .netframework installed as well byt the link I give you also has a link for that as well:
http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/
Mike

i recently got att 8525 but i havent able to connect wifi with my home network. it asks for wep key, then shows connecting to network and after a while shows wrong network key...no success so far...i even tried the abive hitchhiker sf and all but no luck...has anyone come up with any solution??? i had np connecting 8125 b4...!!!
btw i use wm5 and the most recent att rom update posted on htc site...
hoping for some solution...

I have similar problem too with my cingular 8525. I unlock it to work with t-mobile and also upgrade to wm6 . Now, I can not connect to my home wlan. If I click on wlan, it show my wireless network. But if I click on internet explorer, it show me the default internet window explorer with at & t and window mobile icons. when I click on either one, it take me to media net log in screen. help me

ok, i dont know how but my wifi started working last night!!! b4 it always looked for IP address and eventually disconnects b4 connecting to home network. so i installed "hitchhiker" but no luck either...so i uninstalled and then tried but this time it said connected to network and as soon as i open IE, it disconnects...it looked like wifi connects but then disconnects or timeout due to power settings, so i changed power settings under wifi settings to best performance and now it just connects right away...

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ellisos020 said:
Just wanted to let everyone know that switching from "best battery" to "best performance" also solved the "incorrect network key" error for me. Thanks Chakli!
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Thank You Thank you Thank You. I've been at this for a few days now. It would have to be that simple.

Just remember you need to run the remove proxy cab file if proxy is has been set to use GPRS/WAP. Also make sure the right network interface is selected - like work uses 802.11 etc..

Wi-Fi Doesn't Connect

Okay, I've searched, sifted through a boatload of possible threads relating to mine and still haven't found a resolution to my problem.
My Wi-Fi doesn't connect to my wi-fi router at home. My laptop connects perfectly fine without any hiccups. I've gotten the wi-fi to connect to our local Apple Store's wi-fi network to access the internet.
I double checked the password like a hundred times, disabled to proxy, and made sure the network is connecting to the internet and not on the my work settings.
I'm still using WM5 and not sure if it's an issue with the OS or not.
Please someone lend a helping hand. I've spent many hours researching this problem and still nothing.
Note: I did get it to connect only once when I first got last week and it didn't work again after I left the house. I've master reseted the damn thing over 5 times just to make sure.

1.Erase the settings for your home network out of your phone 2. Remove the security from your router and try connecting again
If that does not work hard reset the router again and try to connectthrough its default settings (make sure their are no saved wifi networks in your phone)

sprice82 said:
1.Erase the settings for your home network out of your phone 2. Remove the security from your router and try connecting again
If that does not work hard reset the router again and try to connectthrough its default settings (make sure their are no saved wifi networks in your phone)
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I've tried your method. The first didn't work.
The second method worked. I had to hard reset my router and try again and it finally worked even with my password. I also master reset my phone prior to hard resetting my router.
Thanks for the info. Would you happen to know why it might have done that?

It might have bveen the security settings on the router or your router was just blocking it all together...

This sucks. It eventually keeps doing the same thing again and again. When I leave my house and try to reconnect later when I get home, WHAM! No connections. It can find my router and says it's available but when it tries to connect, it can't. I don't know what the hell is wrong.
I've master resetted both my phone and router and started all over from scratch.

On my Linksys router i use no security protocols. i use MAC address filtering instead. If the router does not have your mac address you can not connect. Drives the neighborhood war-drivers crazy!! It says unsecured, but they can not connect no matter what they try!

me neither
Since I installed wm6, my wifi will connect to my network but apps like internet explorer won't load a page , it just stays stuck on : "locating...."
any idea?

guesserit said:
Since I installed wm6, my wifi will connect to my network but apps like internet explorer won't load a page , it just stays stuck on : "locating...."
any idea?
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Me 2, same thing.

Go to the settings for wifi and go to "Configure Network adapters" and make sure the all say the "The internet" and not "work"

sprice82 said:
Go to the settings for wifi and go to "Configure Network adapters" and make sure the all say the "The internet" and not "work"
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That's the first thing i did buddy.

I am not really sure what it could be then, when I intaslled the official cingular wm6 Rom it was doing the same thing then I did a hard reset and when it was installing the extended Rom I did a soft reset and that fixed it, but then again I hyad to manually put all the settings in.

You might want to check if your really connected... If I start mine out about 1 inch from the router and get connected, I can walk all over the house and it will show connected (even updates the signal strength). However...IE will just keep saying 'locating' like yours. This is because it cannot reach the wifi base with it's buggered up transmitter. I don't think there is a cure for this.... Ikeep looking though...

badbert said:
On my Linksys router i use no security protocols. i use MAC address filtering instead. If the router does not have your mac address you can not connect. Drives the neighborhood war-drivers crazy!! It says unsecured, but they can not connect no matter what they try!
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How do you do that and find the mac address on the 8525? I'm using Black Majik's cooked rom so it may be different from the original WM5.
Also an update on hooking to my router. I disconnected my router and cable modem and left it off for about 3 minutes. I then plugged it back in and let both reset. I connected afterwards and it works fine. Don't know what will happen later on when I leave and it disconnects.

The battle for wifi

Hi guys. If you don't remember me - here's my story in a nutshell. I got a 8525 about a week ago. Since day one I tried and tried and tried but never managed to get the wifi working... (as you can imagine I am beyond desperate at this point)
Anyway last night I got thinking and decided to give it another stab. I hard reset, messed with the settings again...and this time manage to get a little further. My phone is now showing me as "connect to network", only problem is I get a message saying "Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change connection settings, tap Settings." each time I try to access anything internet related. I know I'm close especially since I'm actually connected now, I think it's just AT&T's rom doing everything it can to get me to use their networks (I'm on T-Mobile and don't have a dataplan anyway...).
Anyway can you guys think of what the problem might be? I'm so close I can taste it! Thanks.....

Bump... Anyone home?

where did you get your 8525? my wifi on my 8525 works perfectly fine, have u tried upgrading to WM6?

I have WM6 already. I got it off ebay. Everything is perfectly fine with it, it just doesn't want to use the wifi connection to get online.

Try a hard rest.

my 1st 8525 i got off ebay, and it worked great up until a few weeks ago, when the screen stopped functioning it just turned white, i called AT&T and they sent me a new 1 i just got it this morning and now, i cant make calls >.> it will ring then my phone will say i have no service when i have full service and the call will end. but my wifi is fine... did u use the WM6 upgrade that was released by AT&T

No thanks re: the hard reset. I've already done that... If I can't figure this out I'm going to sell my phone and steer clear of ppc phones. I like it, but I bought it for wifi and this is just getting ridiculous. I have tried everything. I've spent hours and hours on this. I've reset my router god knows how many times, played with security settings, reset my phone over and over to start over.....
The worst part now is that I know it's connected. The wifi aspect is fine. It's just the stupid phone not wanting to use the wifi connection for the internet.
Maybe someone with a 8525 and a Linksys router can post ALL of their wireless related settings for me.
Ekh

Yes I used the AT&T update.....

i use wifi and my linksys router, the 8525's range isnt that great u need to be within a few feet of the router to get good reception, im about 30 feet from mine and i get 2 Wifi signal bars and an ok speed. but try this
Start > Programs > Proxy Manager > Disable Proxy
then try to use your wifi, then go back and restore the proxy when your done, i think some 1 told me to do that because att uses that so u can use their internet service or sumthin

Thanks but I'm way ahead of you. I've already tried every piece of advice I've come across on xda. My last hope is someone elses detailed settings.

is your network passworded by a WEP or TKIP ?

It's WPA... My device has the password, and I added the MAC to my router table. It's connecting to the router/wifi...

...it's just that my device won't use the connection

* Sigh * Looks like another one of my please help me posts has gone dead...again...

olly666 said:
...it's just that my device won't use the connection
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Your problem may be one of the following:
1. The wifi connection is specified as connecting to "work" and programs are set to use an internet connection.
2. The wifi connection is specified as connecting to "internet" and programs are set to use a work connection.

Nope that's not it. But it does remind me of something so thanks. I deleted all the connections seeing as I don't have a dataplan... I made a new connection called "Wifi". BUT, it's not like I can specify any connection for it so it's just blank (no connection specified). By this I mean the options for a connection are:
bluetooth, cellular line, cellular line (GPRS, 3G), Generic IrDA, Hanes...COM1. No option for wireless...
Does that help?

Check that your router is set to allow connections by devices with 802.11b, which the Hermes uses. Most default to 802.11g only.

It's set for b and g

Helloooo...?

Hallelujah!!!!!
People, I have WIFI!!!
Thanks to everyone who tried to give a helping hand... It's really appreciated.
For future reference to those who are suffering from the same problem - this is what seemed to fix it... I entered google into IE via it's IP address rather than it's name (open command prompt, ping google.com...). To my surprise the page quickly loaded. I then instantly realized that the problem was with the DNS settings. I opened up "Wi-Fi" in settings, went to the "Network Adapters" tab at the bottom and entered in the DNS addresses for "IEEE 802.11b/g...". If you need help with this just PM me (I consider myself somewhat of an expert on this topic now).
I thought I was never going to get online. There IS a god!