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Did anyone elses internet stop working today? I have had mine working for a few months fow, and this morning, boom, no internet. It said I needed to upgrade my plan.

did it occur to you to contact T-Mobile about this? Surely they can fix this for you.

not if there is a way around this. I don’t want a price increase for the same service, the price increase is dumb, and why do I need to pay more for the same service that I would get with my WinMo phone. I don’t even have 3g in my area.

I have no clue what you are saying . Customer support is free as far as I know? I don't have T-Mobile (I'm not from the US), but even if it were a paying number for support, you can always walk into a t-mobile store and ask there to check your subscription.

No with the G1 t mobile made a new service plan just for that phone, It give you nothing extra but text messages, and with the use of email, text is useless. But by using APN wap.voicestream.com you at least were able to by pass the new service plan. Up until last night.

*sigh* why do people always have to reply to threads that they don't have any clue about?
To answer your question, yes my wap.voicestream.com just quit working this morning as well! I have tried everything to get it up and running again, but to no avail. I am located in central florida if that matters.
It looks like T-Mobile might be wising up to us using the $9.99 plan... which I refuse to pay anymore since I only get gprs data here!!!

Yeah I even pay the $20 data plan. If I got 3g I could understand paying more. Well not understand, but I would except it. But to pay more for not getting more if crap.

skaflyer said:
*sigh* why do people always have to reply to threads that they don't have any clue about?
To answer your question, yes my wap.voicestream.com just quit working this morning as well! I have tried everything to get it up and running again, but to no avail. I am located in central florida if that matters.
It looks like T-Mobile might be wising up to us using the $9.99 plan... which I refuse to pay anymore since I only get gprs data here!!!
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Why do people complain about services they don't pay for anyway, heh.
Sigh and moan all you want. If you want service, you'll have to pay for it . If it's still not fine, contact T-Mobile support. Nobody here is going to swing a magic wand around and give you free internet.

Your only partly paying for messaging, edge/3g/gprs, mostly what your paying for is server usage to sync with google servers. Don't like this feature? Don't buy the phone.

I love these arguments... do you really think that $24.99 is a fair price for gprs which is less than 50kbps whereas 3g is pushing up to 1mbps? I would gladly pay $24.99 for 3g or possibly even edge, but definitely not for gprs! Not to mention the issue that when I purchased this phone they told me that I am in an edge capable area which is a lie. The T-Mobile kiosk in the mall has an edge signal that extends about 2-3 miles in each direction around it, but that's the only edge around which makes it even more dishonest.

Yeah they lied to me, I was told my internet was grandfathered in at 19.99 and would never go up. So I am fighting this with t-mobile support now. I am not trying to get a freebie I just want the service that I am paying for, and for a little corporate responsibility. Plus I am not under contract so they can lose out on $5 a month or $130 a month. And I have already requested a unlock code.

Mine crapped out this morning. I got an email at 6:55am EST, and I went to check Wunderground at about 7:05, and it was dead. Changed all my APNs to see if that was the problem, and it was a no-go.
Interesting thing is... Yesterday, I was playing with my boss' developer phone that he just got, and I was able to browse the web for a good half hour using the epc.tmobile.com APN. (Using my SIM card, which has Blackberry data on it)

TimSykes said:
I was told my internet was grandfathered in at 19.99 and would never go up.
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They didn't lie, T-Mobile has for about a yr now, announced that their T-zones plan will be abolished. When a plan gets scratched off a table, there goes your grandfathering in clause.
TimSykes said:
I just want the service that I am paying for
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You did till the plan existed.
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I am not under contract so they can lose out on $5 a month or $130 a month. And I have already requested a unlock code.
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I dont think your thinking is the same as theirs.

skaflyer said:
I love these arguments...
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As do I.
skaflyer said:
do you really think that $24.99 is a fair price for gprs which is less than 50kbps whereas 3g is pushing up to 1mbps?
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Whether I think it is a fair price for gprs is immaterial. If the T-Mobile network were predominately GPRS only there would be few people using T-Mobile's data services. As it stands there is almost nowhere in T-Mobile coverage area that is GPRS only. Generally the only time you would fall to GPRS is if you are on the edges of service and the signal is not strong enough for Edge. Edge is a software upgrade from GPRS so it is unlikely there are towers that are still GPRS only.
But all of this is immaterial. You were aware when you got the G1 that T-Mobile U.S. required a $24.99 data plan. You were not coerced into geting a G1. You chose to get a G1 with this knowledge and for a time bypassed the requirement by "tricking" T-Mobile. You were aware then and now that T-Mobile had a requirement for the $24.99 data plan and would do all within their power to get you on it. So you made your choice with foreknowledge of the cost. T-Mobile did not sneak this in the contract on you.
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I would gladly pay $24.99 for 3g or possibly even edge, but definitely not for gprs! Not to mention the issue that when I purchased this phone they told me that I am in an edge capable area which is a lie. The T-Mobile kiosk in the mall has an edge signal that extends about 2-3 miles in each direction around it, but that's the only edge around which makes it even more dishonest.
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I find it extremely unlikely if you are in a populated area that the predominate signal is GPRS. Towers in a region are not mixed, if the mall tower has edge the tower you are using very likely has edge, just your signal is not strong enough. Talk to T-Mobile support and see if it may be a problem with your tower otherwise. I am visiting my family on a farm where there was no cell phone service till two years ago and I have EDGE here. For that matter I have been on-site to oil fields where the trucks were equipped with cell repeaters to have any signal at all and even there I had EDGE. So by Occam's razor it is more likely your specific location than something representative of T-Mobile service.
There is no discount for crappy cell coverage, the answer is to go with a carrier that covers where you are likely to be.

Mikey1022 said:
They didn't lie, T-Mobile has for about a yr now, announced that their T-zones plan will be abolished. When a plan gets scratched off a table, there goes your grandfathering in clause.
You did till the plan existed.
I dont think your thinking is the same as theirs.
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I don't think you read all of my post. I pay $20 for unlimited internet, not t-zones. The plan is still up for winmo phones. In fact I was told on the phone the only difference between the 2 plans is a different APN name.

I was always under the impression that plan was called T-Zones.
From your apn wap.voicestream.com was called T-Zones, if you hacked it

Besides did i miss somewhere, where you called T-Mobile and asked why your plan no longer works for the G1?

the t-zone play is 9.99, the unlimited internet is 19.99 they just use the same access server for connection. And the first post on this page said I want talking with tmo support.

TimSykes said:
the t-zone play is 9.99, the unlimited internet is 19.99 they just use the same access server for connection. And the first post on this page said I want talking with tmo support.
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I was grandfathered as well and ended up dropping my grandfathered plan because I considered it not worth the fight. You I can see the argument for, t-zones users not so much.
EDIT: The wap.voicestream.com APNs were available to us but there was another set as well. Do not remember them off the top of my head. When I get home I will check and see if my Artemis stil has them configured.

Excuse me for my posts.
I think this pain killers im on are goofing me up.
I'm off to go for a walk, Stretchout my back.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Data Plan Issues

So I have had my G1 for almost 3 months and data has always worked. I picked mine up off of craigslist so I didn't have to go through with the G1 Data plan mess with customer care. When I got the phone, I changed the APN to internet2.voicestream.com and away I went. I previously had a Shadow with the Shadow 100 plan and I never changed data plans because it just worked. A few days ago I flashed to JACHero and I first noticed the problem. When I try to browse to ANY site it comes back:
m.web2go.com: Subscription Upgrade Required
Your current plan is not compatible with this device.
After a few attempts at double checking the APN settings and browsing to different sites it just started working. Yesterday I switched back to Hero 5.0.2Hr5-A2SD I have the same issue but it will not go away.
I know I was getting away with using a cheaper data plan but did I get "caught" and now need to up my rate plan( )?

Did you ever find a solution to this?
I've been trying to see about a 'cheaper' data plan offered where I could just switch my APN and still work. I don't do a massive amount of data traffic, I just like to check my gmail, and maps gets the most of the bandwidth. Plus I had attempted twice to downgrade (online) from unlimited to the 400 sms + unlimited data, and it wouldn't allow me online, 2 days later the plan was removed
I paid full price for my phone, I don't feel I should have to pay a rate designed to subsidize the cost of discounted phones. This really is my biggest beef with the $35/mo data.
/wishes we had UK pricing

bofslime said:
I paid full price for my phone, I don't feel I should have to pay a rate designed to subsidize the cost of discounted phones. This really is my biggest beef with the $35/mo data.
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If you sign your contract through a reseller, some can give you a cash rebate if you supply your own handset. This kind of situation is particularly common for subscribers whos contracts have run their length and have become a month-to-month service. It's likely that you are currently on a similar month-to-month basis.

T-mobile has been shutting down the loop hole for the 100MB plan. I can no longer find a solution to this.
I just do not like the idea of paying 24.99 for what you can get at 9.99 with limited MB access.
I do not think there is anything else we can do.

BTW i think tmobile is blocking all people using the google phones from using the cheap data plan.
im also having the same problem with the " Subcription Upgrade required" message.
it really sucks because i have the $5.99 plan and it would have been nice to get 3G with that... i would have been happy even with Edge.
tried all 3 apn settings and nothing... if im gonna pay for 3g , might as well go with ATT as it has better coverage.
any sugestions ?

tseten said:
BTW i think tmobile is blocking all people using the google phones from using the cheap data plan.
im also having the same problem with the " Subcription Upgrade required" message.
it really sucks because i have the $5.99 plan and it would have been nice to get 3G with that... i would have been happy even with Edge.
tried all 3 apn settings and nothing... if im gonna pay for 3g , might as well go with ATT as it has better coverage.
any sugestions ?
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I honestly cheat a bit. I have the EDGE APN details entered, and set the APN Type to default.
Then, go download an alternative browser. I have only had luck with Dolphin Browser.
It works for me on Fido in Canada (Same as Rogers, AT&T, etc). Give it a shot

Tmobile US htc hd2 unlocked to use $10 unlimited data plan for non smartphones?

I was wondering if i can use unlocked tmobile htc hd2 with the $10 data plan (unlimited) that is available for non smartphones. Will tmobile realize that i am using htc hd2 and upgrade it to smartphone data plan? i am gonna make a contract with a non smartphone and add that 10 dollar data plan to use it on my htc hd2 Do you have to have an Unlocked htc hd2 (not tmobile branded) to do that? is it even possible either way?

Yes it is possible to do such a thing, but for how long is currently unknown. T-Mobile has recently started denying people using the non-smartphone internet with smartphones internet access as it is a violation of the TOS...so good luck!

So i can do it with the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2? but dont they know that i i am using htc hd2 if i use the 10$ data plan and automatically upgrade it?

Yes they will know you are using an HD2, and yes, it is possible that they will upgrade it automatically. My advice; just opt for the 20USD unlimited smartphone data from the start...you won't have to setup the proxy or live in fear that your plan will be upgraded.

Isnt it 30 USD? if it was 20 then i can probably get the data plan but i am pretty sure the data plan is $30. Wait so if you dont get the $10 data plan on the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2, will they know its a hd2?

There's no way to get around it. They will know what phone you're using. I do not know if they will make a change to your plan without confirming with you.
I don't know how you will actually enable the $10 plan in the first place though.

Thats a good point aswell. You have to have a device that supports the 10USD plan to even add it to your plan, so you may not be able to anyways. And the full internet is either 20 or 30 depending on your contract arrangement.

I recently got my phone and it's working for me. I get HSDPA speed with the $10 internet.

Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.

calc said:
Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.
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Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.

Yeah to me it kinda does, because they know they are screwing the system but continue to do it. Anyways I formally ask that this NOT turn into another debate about the morallity of people using the 10USD plan versus the correct one. Thanks.

Paten said:
Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.
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Bother me, nope.? I don't even have data plan... i refuse to pay for it when i can get free wifi @ my home/campus/work....
The OP asked a question and i voiced his options, all of them.... whether he chooses to to take the dark route or not is his business. In addition i don't see how you can justify calling T-Zones as "has a good deal going" when you are in fact defrauding the network, which i have clearly pointed out in my previous response. My advice is pretty much borderline crack pot shady... but it's been discussed about here numerous times and t-mobile has done nothing to fix his loophole.... yet...

Just to add about the $20 internet plan. I have it for my HD2 (part of family plan), the rep added it when we were renewing the contract and ordering the phones (my sister got the 3G slide which came with the $25 plan). So if you want it, try calling them and talking to a rep, they should be able to add it for you (YMMV).

T-mobile can block you at any time since they do have a database of their own IMEIs and they know what device is accessing their network by it's IEMI that is transmitted every time the phone accesses the network.
It would be a very simple task for T-mobile to block the non supported devices for that data plan

Well here is what happend when I upgraded one of my lines. I just upgraded to an HD2, a couple days later theytossed on a 104 web plan. Which is fine cuz I want to use the web anyways. when I first was using my HD2 it said that it needed a subcription to access the web, blah blah. So, i changed the wap settings to internet2.voicestream.com and it works great. 3g speeds and everything.

Why did you change to the slower proxy?

ashasaur said:
Why did you change to the slower proxy?
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The stock epc.tmo doesnt work when you have the 104 (non smart phone plan). The speeds are the same with the internet2 settings. unless you know of a different one that works a well. It works just fine.

I had a phone recently, Nokia 5530, and had the 10 dollar internet plan and I noticed depending where I was in the country I sometimes would get full internet access and other times I would get off the standard tzone areas and it would show subscription upgrade required message.
I think it might depend on where you live for this to work. Perhaps the WAP settings might also work.

There is a way to get the $10 t-zone plan on your HD2
Here is a simple way to get the t-zone on your HD2..
1) Login to your t-mobile account via the web.. register first if you haven't do so.
2) when you login, T-mobile might choose your phone (maybe HD2 already selected).. at this moment, change your phone to any non-smartphone.. like samsung T509 or any non-smartphone as your default phone.
3) go to change service and add the $10 t-zone internet to your plan
4) set your HD2 with the right APN setting you're OK.
5) For me, if you're using internet2.voicestream.com in Winmo works OK and in Android works OK.
This is a cheated way or gray area... Either way T-mobile make extra $$$ from you. I think T-mobile knows this loop hole, but they keep it open because they don't want to upset us cheapie????
my 2 cents

did they get rid of this? I do not see the option anymore.

3G data only plans?

Bought the NS no-contract and was wondering if anyone knows of, and can recommend a 3G data only plan? I don't need voice, just a data plan, preferably no contract. Thanks!

aimfire72 said:
Bought the NS no-contract and was wondering if anyone knows of, and can recommend a 3G data only plan? I don't need voice, just a data plan, preferably no contract. Thanks!
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Im sure you could go to Tmobile and just ask them to put a data plan on the phone...it is 30 bucks though

You have few choices:
1. webconnect 5GB semi-unlimited: $40 a month (I use it with nexus one and NS)
2. smartphone data only plan: $40 plus 40 cents a min voice
3. $1.5/day PAYG webpass
#1 and #2 are Even More Plus internet plans.

Minkee, these are Tmob plans? Thanks.

aimfire72 said:
Minkee, these are Tmob plans? Thanks.
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Yes these are TMobile plans.

Ugh, went to a T-Mobile store near me tonight and neither of the clerks had any clue what I was talking about. Only thing they knew about was a 2-year contract plan for $40/month, which I think is actually the Tab plan. I'm just gonna need to call the main #, I have the sim that came in the box, hopefully they can activate it from there.

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Ugh, went to a T-Mobile store near me tonight and neither of the clerks had any clue what I was talking about. Only thing they knew about was a 2-year contract plan for $40/month, which I think is actually the Tab plan. I'm just gonna need to call the main #, I have the sim that came in the box, hopefully they can activate it from there.
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From what I remember, they have to program the SIM in-store or back at HQ/factory.

tekkitan said:
From what I remember, they have to program the SIM in-store or back at HQ/factory.
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Nope. Any SIM can be activated by giving them the number on the SIM card. I've done it with T-Mobile and at&t
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Going nuts over here, lol... called T-Mobile and no one knows anything... one guy even said they did not have 3G plans because they're going over to 4G now... try again tomorrow, lol
EDIT: It seems like a lot of those other plans may be grandfathered, looks like Tmob has raised prices and the month-to-month plans are a rip-off. I'm thinking of giving SimpleMobile a try with their $60/month-to-month, unlimited everything plan (uses Tmob's network)

I have the Even More Plus plan for $59 a month. 500 minutes/unlimited text/web
I had to call to get it - doesn't show on the website

Dunno what the problem is, just go to tmobile.com, go to Shop/Plans/Individual.
Type in your zipcode.
Then on the left, uncheck everything except "DATA ONLY"
You should see "Even More Smartphone Unlimited Web & E-mail" for $49.99/month

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Going nuts over here, lol... called T-Mobile and no one knows anything... one guy even said they did not have 3G plans because they're going over to 4G now... try again tomorrow, lol
EDIT: It seems like a lot of those other plans may be grandfathered, looks like Tmob has raised prices and the month-to-month plans are a rip-off. I'm thinking of giving SimpleMobile a try with their $60/month-to-month, unlimited everything plan (uses Tmob's network)
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Don't ask for a 3g plan, just ask for a data plan. If you get too specific you'll confuse the monkeys behind the counter

mingkee said:
You have few choices:
1. webconnect 5GB semi-unlimited: $40 a month (I use it with nexus one and NS)
#1 and #2 are Even More Plus internet plans.
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Thanks, this is what I went for. Had to call to ask for it and they were able to activate the sim that came with the NS. Was activated in about a minute, lol.

T-Mobile US APN for Android w/ $10 data plan

Hello, I've been having problems with my HD2 running Androids. I currently have the $10 data plan which works perfectly fine with the apn on internet2.voicestream.com
however, I cannot get the picture message to work for the life of me. Does anyone have any info to point me in the right direction?

Try this and let me know. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688725

how did you get the $10 plan_ is it unlimited

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Try this and let me know. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688725
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I believe that is for HD2 using winmo. I am using Android primary on my HD2. Is there a file for the Android rom?
xnycen said:
how did you get the $10 plan_ is it unlimited
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I told tmo I had a razr and they gave me the $10 unlimited data plan.

From what I know of there Isn't a 10 unlimited plan its impossible... I would be on it, they might have given you a certain amount of mb for you to use and if you pass that, you get charged extra every time.
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CrAzYiaN said:
From what I know of there Isn't a 10 unlimited plan its impossible... I would be on it, they might have given you a certain amount of mb for you to use and if you pass that, you get charged extra every time.
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Maybe they got rid of it now that 4G is out but I have the $10 unlimited plan for dumbphones. It similar to the tzones.

vwrado said:
Maybe they got rid of it now that 4G is out but I have the $10 unlimited plan for dumbphones. It similar to the tzones.
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correct that's extacly what i was thinking as well,cause 10$ unlimited seems impossible to me lol, but yea i have the 4g unlimited web, and i pay 30 a month which is cheap to me but nevertheless i'm sorry about the mms i seem to be having problems with that as well >.<

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however, I cannot get the picture message to work for the life of me. Does anyone have any info to point me in the right direction?
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I have the mms settings PM to you. xda is thinking its automatically a link to a website...

T-mobile US, 200MB for $10.

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T-mobile US, 200MB for $10.
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Not if you had tzones added on a non-smartphone before getting the HD2. I have the TZones internet as well that was added back when I had a Nokia phone

T-zone used to be $5 which used wap.voicestream.com in the past. I think the current T-zone is call Web2go and it's for $10; has restricted access to website. You can try using epc.tmobile.com, the new data access point. Please, tell me how it goes.

I Love the 10 dollar unlimited plan.
Ive been rocking this 10 plan on truly unlimited data for many, many months now.
All you had to do was sign up on my t mobile, select the shadow as your phone, go to edit your services, remove your internet, re-add unlimited web for phones 10 dollar option, wait 24-48 hours, manually enter APN internet2.voicestream.com
There you have it, will check to see if the option is still there, if you had it, you are GRANDFATHERED in FOREVER!! 4.5Mbps Download 1.4 Mpbs Upload on Unlimited 10 dollar plan, only works with the hd2 for the Hspa.
Plan not available anymore, 4G 200MB for $15 or an Unlimited 4G option for $30.
64.00 unlimited everything is very nice with this HD2 on Android, lol.

He's right it works..... But T-mobile doesn't give you that plan anymore... if you know someone with that t-zone phone buy him his phone and take over his plan.. lolol... it's best thing to do... Cuz all T-mobile internet APN works on 3G frequencies...
Cuz it's true that we don't need anything else these days... we can text, make phone calls and all that over the mobile data plans....(Google voice, SIP, Ect...) But companies Knows That..lol.. so now you can't buy a data plan by it self anywhere... Bastards trying to make money..lol...
Like me I have a sidekick data Plan Unlimited for 30 bucks (Unlimited 3g Data & Text) I have it in my HD2 with Android on it... with the sidekick APN (hiptop.t-mobile.com)
And the 3g and text works very good...
Those plans are not gonna come back..lolol...

So back to the original question on getting the mms with pics to work, has anyone got it to work?
Gigabyte01

I had the edge plan for $10 on my Iphone for awhile and it worked great. Tried to do it for my G1 and it would not work and then my iphone broke and I was without a phone so I had to give up the $10 unlimited data... I doubt I will be able to get it back ever. I had to fight with them to get the plan in the first place.