Can u switch motherboard? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

My question is if I get a an imate k-jam that has a bad motherboard would it be possible to switch the motherboard of my 8125 with the k-jams? and would it work fully? i'm not a pc tech or anything but I am able to dissassemble and repair laptops and pc's. if this were possible would I be capable of doing it? 'cos the keyboard on the 8125 is driving me crasy (button's jamming, unresponsive) and my friends k-jam's keyboard seem's like a hundred times better, so thats the main reason id want to. that and to change the case at the same time

Kenzeru said:
My question is if I get a an imate k-jam that has a bad motherboard would it be possible to switch the motherboard of my 8125 with the k-jams? and would it work fully? i'm not a pc tech or anything but I am able to dissassemble and repair laptops and pc's. if this were possible would I be capable of doing it? 'cos the keyboard on the 8125 is driving me crasy (button's jamming, unresponsive) and my friends k-jam's keyboard seem's like a hundred times better, so thats the main reason id want to. that and to change the case at the same time
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I suppose the only way to know for sure would be to take them both apart and see if there are any differences in the main boards. Theoretically, they are the same. Realistically, they may be different shapes or laid out differently. I have taken my MDA apart before and the main board is unbelievably complex.
Sorry I can't be of much help, but I think that would be the only option is to just "look and see"
PS:: This should have been placed under the Wizard forum, not Wizard Mobile 6 as it is not related to the developement of WM6 or or any previous WM6 Roms created to date. Try to keep your posts in the correct forums.
Dan.

okay, thank u. and nice cat lol. nd i'll do that in the future. can the moderator move this thread to the appropriate section?

thanks. no one knows of this being tried before?

Yes, you can switch motherboards. I just switched a T-Mobile MDA motherboard into a Cingular 8125 and vice versa (swapping parts to try to figure out why touchscreen didn't work on the 8125).

GnatGoSplat said:
Yes, you can switch motherboards. I just switched a T-Mobile MDA motherboard into a Cingular 8125 and vice versa (swapping parts to try to figure out why touchscreen didn't work on the 8125).
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That is actually really good to know. I have an old 8125 in the closet with a broken touch screen but I have been using my MDA with a broken USB port so all I would have to do is take my 8125 main board and swap it for my MDA main board and all will be fixed... Hmmm... I'm gonna have to try this.

that's not just good to know, it's awesome. thank's alot GnatGoSpat, nice screen name too lol

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Advice with Wizard purchase

Hello everyone.
I'm seriously considering purchasing a Qtek 9100. I wanted to ask a few questions before I go ahead and I'm hoping someone could help me. I wanted to buy a qtek primarily because of the color (slight darker silver). Is the qtek any different from the O2, K-jam.. and all other versions? I know O2 comes with a preinstalled software interface but are there any other differences? Particularly in processor performance or perhaps resolved bugs?
Question number two is adding a TomTom 5.21 Bluetooth GPS. I do not have much experience with GPS systems and quite frankly I just intend to get the Bluetooth receiver (from TomTom) and perhaps download a copy of the software online (Cracked-torrent [of course for educational purpose ] ). Is this going to work or is it absolutely necessary to purchase the software otherwise the GPS unit will throw me off a cliff. Or is there a better GPS system worth acquiring? (for UK).
Thanks a bunch and I wait eagerly for any help.
Hi,
As far as I know all hardware of the different brands at the same; they all come from the HTC factories. Only software varies. If you are going to use it with an GRPS connection I would advise a branded version (you'll get great value and save some serious bucks) if not the QTEK is the only one that comes without SIM lock. You can swap the ROM as you like, after unlocking they all work with the QTEK, K-JAM or any other rom version as long as it's for a HTC Wizard phone.
As for the TomTom, it'll work, but you still need to purchase TomTom if you want to use it. How else will they improve the software if noone buys and they their cash runs dry? (Board policy )
Only the K-JAM Rom allows you to connect to a WIFI network that uses the G standard, but it'll still be only at 11 mb/s. So that shouldn't be an issue. Localized (non english) versions do have some issues but none of great importance.
Go ahaed, buy one. I don't know anyone that regrets it.
Cheers
Cactus
In my eyes, the most important thing you have to bear in mind is that the Qtek version of the Wizard has one major flaw: the paint of the 'messaging', 'internet explorer' , etc. buttons comes off. I have not only read about this on multiple forums, but a friend of mine has experienced this first hand.
as far as I know, Qtek is the only manufacturer who has tried to save some expenses on 'quality paint'
hehe,
Many wish T-Mobile used QTEK's paint It would have saved a lot of people scrubbing hard with a sugarcube to get the ugly pink ie-like symbol off
By now I know what button is for whitch function, I wouldn't mind....
Thank le cactus
Thank you, le cactus. That's a very enlightening response. I would most definitely buy one soon. I've read quite a bit about the the Wizard and I know it came out under different manufacturer brands. I chose the qtek only because I personally liked the darker design. Its really a personal preference. I also wanted to make sure they didn't differ too much in stability.
I will support TomTom as it is the only right thing to do. Again, I just needed to confirm that it worked following a 'different' approach. Thanks a bunch, mate.
I can't wait to purchase my Wizard as my old nokia 5100 is ready to retire. I can't wait for my new toy.
I'm not too bothered with wifi g as well. I don't expect considerable difference with the Wizard's condervative processor speed. Furthermore, I don't intend to use the device for intensive surfing. I might restrict use to checking emails and occasional surfing when I'm too lazy to get up and use my computer.

O2 Exec/Universal: I want to take it apart, any Guidlines ??

Has any one taken a universal apart, or could help me with some guidelines.
Read the Wiki or do some searching.. :evil:
We have the whole service manual of the thing! :roll:
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We have the whole service manual of the thing! :roll:
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Please post the link of the service manual!!!
Please scan it in if you don't have it in electronic form.
When I say "we", I'm referring to the users of this forum...
It's available for download from the FTP server.. :roll:
And you would know this if you bothered using 20sek on SEARCHING!
A search for UNIVERSAL SERVICE MANUAL gives all the info you need!
quiblet:
You are new to this site; please use the search function before asking. :!:
I find it highly unlikely that your problems are unique and never asked before.
Leek:
I'm at work, so I don't have FTP access.
It should be in the upload folder if I remember corectly.. :wink:
Are you saying I'm not a "user"?
I spent hours searching. I browsed the FTP server.
The Wizard manual is there (Prodigy dah dah dah).
In fact, I helped people find it, by linking to it (see my posts). We're not all clueless, but the site needs improvement as far as linking information. Just a week ago, the Wiki was entirely broken.
I don't see a Universal manual. I browsed around 6 days ago. I haven't seen any recent anouncements of a new one.
The Wiki has no link on the Universal page to any service manual. Lots of technical information and pictures, but no PDF service manual -- nothing like the Wizard's.
I'm a computer scientist and have been programming assembly code since 1985, so it's not like I can't navigate.
leek:
It was there when I downloaded a few weeks ago..
If it has been removed, I shall extend my sincere appologies to you.
I shall allso see if I have a copy on my harddrive when I get home..
Well, it looks like I don't have to appologize at all!
It took me less than a minute when I found a computer with FTP acces..
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Un...C_CONFIDENTIAL_-_UNIVERSAL_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
Now, I haven't been programming since 1985, cuz I was born in 1985.
But root\Universal\Manuals etc doesn't seem to be the worst place to look for a manual, is it?
Anyway; I'm glad you took the time to write a constructive reply to my post..
Most people don't bother..
Strange... I did not see that last week when I searched. If it was there, I don't know how I missed it.
I will fix the Wiki (assuming it works again) to point to it.
You have redeemed yourself. And so shall I.

			
				
Thanks - I have taken the Universal completely apart.
Thanks - I have taken the Universal completely apart.
I have a headset fault that I have tried to fix by inserting the headset several times. And looks like I need a Motherboard. Does anyone know where I can get one????
Try this. You will have to send it to them I think.
http://www.htceurope.com/uk/
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Well, it looks like I don't have to appologize at all!
It took me less than a minute when I found a computer with FTP acces..
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Un...C_CONFIDENTIAL_-_UNIVERSAL_SERVICE_MANUAL.pdf
Now, I haven't been programming since 1985, cuz I was born in 1985.
But root\Universal\Manuals etc doesn't seem to be the worst place to look for a manual, is it?
Anyway; I'm glad you took the time to write a constructive reply to my post..
Most people don't bother..
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Do i need special access to the ftp site?
Been trying to access to the ftp server and look at the service manual. but then it just say permission denied when i key in my user name. Do i need any special rights to enter the ftp site?
You need to right click on this link, select copy shortcut, open your browser and paste into the address bar.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Original_German_and_Englsh_Manuals_etc/
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quiblet said:
Thanks - I have taken the Universal completely apart.
I have a headset fault that I have tried to fix by inserting the headset several times. And looks like I need a Motherboard. Does anyone know where I can get one????
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eh? surely all you need is a 3.5mm 4 point headphone jack? the usual fault is the detection microswitch 'sticks' in place and closes the circuit so the phone always thinks there is a headset attached. What makes you thnk you need a board? And why isn't your unit under warranty being less than a year old? :?: ( exec brand universals have 2 years)
Richard
p.s if you *really* need a board drop me a pm.
Thanks for the info !
I have the 4 point jack that came with the unit, as for the microswitch is there any way to reset it ?? manually.
I bought my unit from Ebay shortly after the unit developed this fault and the O2 warranty states that the original purchaser only can use the warranty, HTC Europe on reading the website will repair it but for a charge.
So I'm painfully living with the fault currently.
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Thanks for the info !
I have the 4 point jack that came with the unit, as for the microswitch is there any way to reset it ?? manually.
I bought my unit from Ebay shortly after the unit developed this fault and the O2 warranty states that the original purchaser only can use the warranty, HTC Europe on reading the website will repair it but for a charge.
So I'm painfully living with the fault currently.
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Does the microswitch work? Have you put a metre accross the contacts and checked it? Usually they just stick rather than fail, but they are available as a spare if you look hard enough. ( Farnell's / CPC etc )
HTCeurope will not ( from experience ) repair XDA branded units. As for the warranty not being transferrable according to their terms, threaten to sue as it's against your 'hooman writes' or summat- works for me :wink: ( but never tried with o2 )
Richard
Where is the microswitch ????
Where can I measure on the actual headset jack??
Thanks
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Where is the microswitch ????
Where can I measure on the actual headset jack??
Thanks
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It's *inside* the socket, when you insert the headphone jack plug, it depresses to detect insertion. You measure across the contacts.
Richard
Richard
I see 4 contacts on the top of the Jack plug, I have measured for open & closed circuit but have come to no conclusion - to fix this If I unsolder the heaset Jack and then turn the unit on again will this cancel the microswitch just to prove the fault?? Then I will buy another jack??
Your thoughts
Thanks
Aldrin

Just bought a mini s to replace my exec brick

Hi guys,
just thought i'd post this message up on the forum in case anyone is looking for a genuine o2 Xda Exec, unlocked and standard in the lovely black case....
I am selling this on ebay soon as i have just bought a mini s instead.
The exec comes with all original o2 packaging, cables and cd's and has the latest t-mobile rom installed with no extended rom so the ext_Rom can be used for storage.....
i'm looking for around 400 quid on ebay but would accept offers over 300 from anyone here.
pm me if you are intested, the auction will be posted up probably monday.
well, got my mini s this morning.... apart from the fact it doesn't take sd cards and i'll have to buy a mini sd card,
ITS SO COOL...
Gonna put my exec on ebay on monday
Re: "Just bought a mini s to replace my exec brick"
Next time you'll perhaps buy the correct device in the first place? Were you not aware of it's dimension before you bought it?
Really?
Next time you'll perhaps buy the correct device in the first place? Were you not aware of it's dimension before you bought it?
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I just looked at the specs, could not go into a shop and look at the device as i got it before it was released in the o2 shops....
Don't get me wrong, the device is the best bit of kit around at the minute but because i have to use this asmy main phone, it's just too big and awkward to use.
anyway, got me mini s now and it's just so cool..... i guess i'll miss the vga screen, but i can live with that especially if pocketvcs works on this device,
cya
What if someone released a bluetooth headset that you HOLD that looked exactly like a Nokia 8800?
Nah, still think the mini s is better than the exec all round, okay it's processor is not as fast, it does not have a vga screen and does not support 3g but apart from that, it's perfect for me.
just look at the amount of people who are swapping their exec's for mini's on this forum, you don't see many people swapping their mini's for exec's.....
lets agree to differ on this subject and close this thread..... don't forget i've still got my exec and compared to the mini, it's just too big and awkward to use as a regular phone. sorry
Steve,
Most interesting post. I have recently been thinking of doing similar.
I love my exec but simply cannot stand using it as a phone. I have a decent Jabra headset, however still feel very odd using it. I think we all knew the size of the thing before buying, however thought we'd all 'cope'. Well I tried and now I'm bored of coping.
Plus, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has felt very vulnerable when having to use the brick in public.....let's face it, it is an expensive bit of kit and having to flash that screen when in close proximity to an apparent 'undesireable' is no fun......
Another point to add would be to come clean about just how much of the Exec's features I use. I am probably the least technical person on this board. I use my exec as a phone, for my emails, for my diary (where it is INVALUABLE, due to my shockingly bad memory...), to occasionaly go on the web, for my contacts.....ummm...think thats it. I have no idea what VGA is, 3G is great but only for speed (never used video phone yet). A quick game of solitare and I'm done. Oh ok and a few songs and games, but hey doesnt the mini do all that?
Would be very interested to hear of your progress with the mini.
Cheers
HPJ
I think that there are many people who will swap an Exec for a Mini and for most of the reasons stated above. I'll keep my Exec because I really bought it to replace my XDA2s for the 3G data speed. I'll put up with its faults & foibles because it gives me high speed internet access pretty much wherever I am. The VGA screen is a bonus too.
I have to agree that while I appreciate my JasJar as an internet connected PDA - it is just impractical to use as my main phone. I too knew the specs before I bought it - but knowing the specs and carrying the device are two different things. I guess this has been building with me for a while though - this is not the first PPCPE device I have owned - first there was the iMate (HTC Himalaya) and then the iPaq 6315 (what a disappointment!) and then the JasJar (Universal). I guess in the end convergence is not as important as comfort and convenience.
So - I added a new line to my account for my JasJar and bought a Motorola PEBL (which fits NICELY into my pocket) to use as my main phone. The JasJar is connected as my internet device and the PEBL is only used for phone calls. I am a very happy man!
Well guys, an update on my mini s experience.... perfect, small, compact, and does exactly what my exec did (apart from the bells and whistles) in a nice small bo....
now, a big pain in the ass with the exec was that i could not get my favourite emulator (pocketvcs) to run, thought it was a vga thing as it ran on my himalaya with wm2005 installed, so when i got my mini s, the first thing i did was install this....
guess what, it still didn't work
gutted, dunno what i could be, if some one could reverse engineer it, that would be cool as the author does not seem to respond to his emaila anymore.
for all those psople pondering the idea of ditching the exec for a min s, like me, DO IT !!! YOU WON'T REGRET IT unless you 3g or want to strain your eyes running the exec in true vga mode..... also this thing fits into a standard mobile phone car holder
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for all those psople pondering the idea of ditching the exec for a min s, like me, DO IT !!! YOU WON'T REGRET IT unless you 3g or want to strain your eyes running the exec in true vga mode..... also this thing fits into a standard mobile phone car holder
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...Or you could have the best of both worlds by keeping the Exec and getting a high spec feature phone (I use a Sony-Ericsson K750i with my Exec) to use alongside it.
You are right that the Exec is too big to be a main phone but it is absolutely the best connected PDA on the market. And lets face it, there's no WinMob device on the market that comes close to a decent Sony-Eric, Nokia, Motorola, or Samsung for battery life, call quality, Bluetooth profiles, and other core phone functions like being able to send contacts by SMS.
I've used a variety of smartphones (MS, Palm and Symbian) and PDAs (MS and Palm) and keep coming back to the fact that convergence creates more problems than it solves.
For you guys that use dual device (a decent cell phone combined with Universal), how do you handle SMS? Can you use the native built in Universal/WM5 SMS messaging software to send and retrieve SMS via another cell phone?
For connectivity like GPRS or 3G, I guess you can set that up in the Universal so that it will use that cell phone for the connection.
Otherwise, it means we have to have 2 SIM cards, means 2 accounts, means double to pay...
When I was in Asia, I found out that pre-paid SIM card is extremely cheap so that everyone can buy it easily. Not here in the US, very expensive to maintain 2 accounts...
I agree with most things you guys said about the Universal. I myself have retired my Universal for a week now. I have switched back to my old Wallaby, which I consider much more natural for handling calls and most simple PDA things I need. My Wallaby is very easy to carry to almost any environment I have to be, compared to my Universal. The Universal, however, its very nice device to use whenever I'm at home or office environment.
I used a mini before for couple of weeks. Which one do you guys have right now? Is it the old Magician or the new Prophet? How's the Prophet's performance and speed?
I have tested Universal last December and enev though I loved device and features, at least for me it's unusable as a phone. Don't get me wrong, I used Himalaya for 1,5 year as my only phone and PDA, but I really wanted smaller device.
I got a Wizard as my phone and PDA to replace Himalaya, but in a moment of weaknes I also bought Universal. I don't use it as a phone or even as a PDA, but it's a nice mini Notebook/Tablet that I use for browsing and more "computer" stuff, like Word processing, Excel...
lie_ui said
For you guys that use dual device (a decent cell phone combined with Universal), how do you handle SMS? Can you use the native built in Universal/WM5 SMS messaging software to send and retrieve SMS via another cell phone?
For connectivity like GPRS or 3G, I guess you can set that up in the Universal so that it will use that cell phone for the connection.
Otherwise, it means we have to have 2 SIM cards, means 2 accounts, means double to pay...
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I personally do not use SMS much, but regardless of whether they send the SMS to my phone or JasJar, I will reply with my JasJar. I have software that synchs my PEBL with my Outlook contacts as does my JasJar, so I always have the same phone numbers in both - that makes it easy to reply to those in my contacts, which is most of the people I communicate with.
I do not know of a way to communicate from my JasJar through my PEBL - I do not believe it is possible - So . . .
As to two accounts, yes - I have two SIM cards, two numbers and more cost. It is not exactly twice as much though, since I was able to strip everything but a reasonable amount of minutes from the phone account and only have an internet plan on the JasJar account. It is a bit more, but not twice as much. The upside is that since we here in the States still have to use GSM/GPRS I can now talk on the phone at the same time I am running terminal server or some other communication-intensive application on my JasJar (one radio, one connection). Very Handy!
lie_ui said:
For you guys that use dual device (a decent cell phone combined with Universal), how do you handle SMS? Can you use the native built in Universal/WM5 SMS messaging software to send and retrieve SMS via another cell phone?
For connectivity like GPRS or 3G, I guess you can set that up in the Universal so that it will use that cell phone for the connection.
Otherwise, it means we have to have 2 SIM cards, means 2 accounts, means double to pay...
When I was in Asia, I found out that pre-paid SIM card is extremely cheap so that everyone can buy it easily. Not here in the US, very expensive to maintain 2 accounts...
I agree with most things you guys said about the Universal. I myself have retired my Universal for a week now. I have switched back to my old Wallaby, which I consider much more natural for handling calls and most simple PDA things I need. My Wallaby is very easy to carry to almost any environment I have to be, compared to my Universal. The Universal, however, its very nice device to use whenever I'm at home or office environment.
I used a mini before for couple of weeks. Which one do you guys have right now? Is it the old Magician or the new Prophet? How's the Prophet's performance and speed?
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I do all my SMS from the K750 as I'm pretty fast with T9 and SMS by definition has to be short.
I'm pretty sure there is software out there lets you manage your SMS on a standard pocket PC (i.e. not phone edition) over Bluetooth.
I keep the Exec for PDA/Computery stuff like Pocket Informant, browsing with PIE, email, Excel, Word, Powerpoint, TCPMP audio/video, and TomTom. I find the big keyboard and screen are excellent for these functions. In fact I tried to use my old iMate Jam for a weekend away when I didn't want to risk losing my Exec and I found that I HATED going back to the small screen and stylus.
Steveae:
Having had the mini for a few days now, whats the deal with the slower processor?? Is it noticeable?
I know it will be slower, but in you opinion is it a hindrance?
Cheers
HPJ
PS as-new exec for sale shortly if anyone's interested....UK only pls.
Well, I'm pondering the purchase of a soon-to-be-released P990.
I do wish the Trinity was coming out soon. 3G and WiFi are essentials as far as I'm concerned, but I also find the Uni a bit cumbersome so I want something smaller, and losing VGA and the keyboard is something I'm willing to do...
Even a Muse would do, actually. When's that out?
I love my Universal. I came from an HP h6340, so i'm sure you'd understand.
And sorry, after using a VGA device, It would never EVER be justified for me to buy a QVGA one. I just recently opened my H6340 and compared the 2 screens. I just couldn't believe i managed with QVGA for 1 year and thought the display was BEAUTIFUL!
Actually, I really wanted a VGA PDA/Phone and there was only one choice for this.
No complaints from me. I even had a Nokia 9000.... Yes the Black and White PDA Screen. Now THAT was a brick, this is sleek compared to that device.
Whell.... for me this is it at the moment as far buisness management on the go goes although it has a few limitations at the moment due to under development at the moment and the network signal strength stinks compared to £30 phones you can buy now days and i wouldent even complin about its size (already knew what i was getting anyway) if it wasnt for all the other flaws with it at the moment like btooth, battery, poor range on wireless and again poor network signal quality..... I have upgraded the radio rom but that was about it and cant be bothered to keep messin around with hacks since a reliable buisness tool is what i need.
Im waitting to grab a SE p990i until i consider ditching this.
BR
well what can i say, group of unhappy uni users eh...
Just thought I would butt in and put my two bobs worth....
I love it. Love everything about it. The size isnt an issue for me, I dont get embarrased easily, I dont mind holding the phone to my ear, I dont care that it doesnt have an external screen, i am either available and take the call, or I am not available and dont take the call, dont need to hide from anybody.
I love the keyboard, I love the clam protection of the screen, I love the quasi screen, I love 3G data speeds, I love the qwerty keyboard, I love the WIFI, I love SD cards, I love the camera facility, I love the video facility, I love the hacks, I love the custom software installed.
I would like more memory, and more storage, but that is all. I thought I was getting 128mb of RAM and 128mb of usable storage, but other than that, I manage well.
We all make mistakes, we all have different choices and needs, but if you didnt get the hint.... I love it. I think the main thing people need to think about in all of this is whether they wanted a phone with PDA functions, or a PDA with a phone function. Mine was the latter. My wife was the former, so we both sold our XDAII's she got a phone, I got the Uni.
Cheers and happy PDA'ing.

what do you carry as your main phone

assuming the universal is too big to lug around what do you use as a phone or pda on your nights out etc,when you cant be arsed to carry the big fella?
i use a really old nokia but thinking of a atom or somthing smaller
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assuming the universal is too big...
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I'm probably in the minority since many people seem to make this assumption, but the Universal is the one and only phone and PDA I carry.
I too only carry my exec around, just whats the point in having 2 devices, we all knew the size of the beast when we bought it, and imho if you need to carry another phone for those ocassions when you want to look "cool" then it wasn't well thought out in the first place, but hey thats just MY opinion, whatever floats your boat
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I'm probably in the minority since many people seem to make this assumption, but the Universal is the one and only phone and PDA I carry.
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No, I'm with you as well! Universal (XDA Exec) is only thing I carry. So it's big... but it does EVERYTHING in one package
me too... exec only
exec only here!
i mean whats the point of the exec if i was to buy a phone aswell? theres better standalone pdas than the exec!
i got the exec for its form factor and it may be a big box but the only box i need to carry!
yup
you must be a 'fool' (hypothetical) to buy an Exec AND a normal phone.. LOL
What you ask is like going back 5 years and buy a compaq and a sony ericsson or so haha
A smartphone is the solution for people who dont want the size of a pda.. I think the screen should not be smaller.. the exec is the perfect solution for me.
I also have a mda vario. but i miss the raw power and vga screen (drool), and my fingers are to big for those dodgy keys on the vario LOL
So if you are really using a normal phone next to your Exec i can only advice one thing.. sell the exec to someone who likes it and buy a much cheaper pda with the same functions which presumably does that job way better anyway LOL
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I beg to difer, on nights out on the "piss" I use a Motorola V3i. Not wanting to risk losing or droping the 900 I use a backup slim phone on these occasions.
Also the V3 comes out when I go diving, taking it on boat trips around the coast.
There is no "one-size-fits-all" here
I have to disagree as well.
I use my JasJar as an always-connected PDA - as a systems administrator I use it to read email and as a terminal server when away from the office using WiFi when available and GPRS when not. The problem is that I can not talk with one of my techs or users about the problems they are experiencing at the same time I am on the internet, because it only has 1 radio, and if it is currently in a GPRS connection it cannot make a GSM connection at the same time. I could probably do the same thing with VOIP - but since we do not have 3G available here yet, the bandwidth on GPRS would just not support TS and VOIP simultaneously. Plus - the BT capabilities are just not up to par with this version of the OS.
So - I carry around a Motorola PEBL as my phone, as it really has great BT capabilities (like digit dialing!) and great talk-time, and my JasJar as an internet device. Some of you may think it's "like going back 5 years", but being able to carry around an always-connected PDA with a VGA screen and very functional phyical keyboard is approaching Nirvana for me. So what if I also have to carry around a tiny phone (that fits nicely into any pocket) as well - I just don's see the problem!
ehh
wrong..
when i go to the pub (often) i dont take anything exept my wallet with me LMAO. Or i leave my Exec in my car.
But you made a valid point, i have to agree to that a small phone could be handy in the local or disco..
Imho though BRosenow get a real pda, i am a sys admin and use a HP iPAQ hx2700 for work.. way faster then the Exec, and if you really want to use gprs just make a bluetooth connection with your gprs or umts mobile.
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dvl wrote:
if you really want to use gprs just make a bluetooth connection with your gprs or umts mobile
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So you suggest that the answer to the one radio in the universal that is the limiting factor in making GSM and GPRS connections simultaneously is to use 2 BT connections to my phone (headset and JasJar) so I can make its 1 radio do simultaneous GSM and GPRS connections? No matter how fast the PDA - the BT bandwidth and the 1 radio in the phone are still keeping this from being a viable option.
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XDA only here.
Can see the virtue of a phone for the pub though, not coz it's too big, but coz it'd cost big bucks to replace.
I prefer not to drink so much that I don't know what's going on around me though....
Exec for web based related access and certain inbound calls (only a few know the number), XDAIIs for all other calls, next device will be Qtek8300 or Nokia N91 (oops I am swearing) - Mike
jaceuk said:
assuming the universal is too big to lug around what do you use as a phone or pda on your nights out etc,when you cant be arsed to carry the big fella?
i use a really old nokia but thinking of a atom or somthing smaller
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I DO carry my Universal (SPV M5000), but what I use as main phone is something is not smaller at all :wink: Nokia 9500 (and before that Nokia 9210i which was even bigger) as they are the BEST cellphones ever made (yet)!!!!
Happy easter & have a great weekend everyone!
CerberuS
jaceuk said:
assuming the universal is too big to lug around what do you use as a phone or pda on your nights out etc,when you cant be arsed to carry the big fella?
i use a really old nokia but thinking of a atom or somthing smaller
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Inititally tried the Jasjar as my main phone, however its size and lack of Caller Name on Bluetooth headsets put me off, its a great device for me to use in the car to get email, remotely access servers and GPS.
The phone I carry around all the time is an iMate SP5
Nokia 8800 day to day phone. XDA Exec is PDA.
The Exec is a bit rubbish to use as a phone. It has so many flaws, size being the obvious one. Poor SMS, etc, etc its just not really practical. But as a connectd PDA its amazing. But more importantly it helps with the work/life balance.
My Exec is used only for work releated stuff. Contacts, scheduals, etc, etc all stay on the exec. My personal life is sync'ed in with my 8800, outlook, contacts, etc, etc. This way when the Exec is not with me, neither is work. It works quite well.
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Nokia 8800 day to day phone. XDA Exec is PDA.
The Exec is a bit rubbish to use as a phone. It has so many flaws, size being the obvious one. Poor SMS, etc, etc its just not really practical. But as a connectd PDA its amazing. But more importantly it helps with the work/life balance.
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Nokia 8800 is one of the most god-awful phones out there. We sell them, and people buy them. People ASK for them, and we laugh!
But you raise an interesting point about poor SMS - I've heard others mention this, and I can't work out why. It's brilliant for SMSes!
Though I carry a Nokia 6230 as well as my Exec this mainly because the 6230 has my own Sim card and the Exec is on work's account.
If this wasn't the case I could quite happily live with the Exec as my only phone.
I've only had the Exec for 3-4 days but VGA screen for Terminal service; Push mail; Web access; a phone and finally a keyboard all rolled into one make this this the best device available to a tech monkey. The size won't be a problem as it fits nicely in my inside jacket pocket and I'd been happily lugging a XDA2i around prior to the SPV M5000 without half o the potential of this baby.
well i find it not too godd as a phone and too big to lug around on a night out.
my main use for it is net etc whilst in the hotel workign away,
im gonna get slim phone for nightd out and the summer just something small and very basic.
the exec is ace but not sutiable for my needs in all situations
Hi,
9000 is too big to put in my 501's pocket but I knew it before buying it. So...I had a V3i Moto for 2 monthes but...when you had a pdaphone, a simple cellular is too simple for your mind. So, I just buy a used 9100 , after looking the new S200. And, I'm happy with my 2 qtek...always synchro for pims (impossible to make it work with the Moto) because I have no memory and my live is on my pdass
And...last but not least...only one HS850 Moto as headset...working with 9000 and 9100 (8 partnerships memory)...

Kaiser (Vario III) software on Rhodium

When I bought my T-Mobile branded Kaiser the Vario III it came with a CD with a couple of apps on it.
I've tried to install one of the apps, GPRS monitor, on my Rhodium but it I get a message saying I've got the wrong ROM. I figure its coded to only work on the Kaiser but I also figure I bought it, my software & I should be able to use it on any subsequent device I own.
Any suggestions about how I can get it installed on my Rhodium?
Thanks
I don't think it works like that. You didn't buy the software, it was provided to you free of charge because you bought a Kaiser and HTC must have done a deal with SPB to get the GPRS software on those devices.
They haven't done that deal with the Touch Pro 2 so you shouldn't be able to use it.
It's been locked to the Kaiser for licensing reasons.
That being said, I'm sure there is a work around
But the way I see it the work around would be as illegal as downloading the software so you may aswell save yourself the hassle and do that if that's your bag.
Please don't flame me, this is just my opinion and could be complete bs
DJ

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