I'm writing this up because someone else might like to benefit from my experiences with doing this repair.
Get your tools together: Multimeter, Torx T5, jeweler's Phillips (size 00), 15w soldering pencil, a bit of flux, some thin (I used 0.38mm 63/57% tin/lead) solder, and a clean place to work. You may want to grab a small ice cube tray or something similar with compartments to toss the screws in so you remember where they go. I highly suggest you get Kapton (3M) tape but you could use cellophane tape or a cut piece of packing tape. I had Kapton on hand so that's what I went with. You also need to either make sure the seller provides the double-stick tape gasket that binds the digitizer to the LCD shield or that you managed to salvage the one that secured the old digitizer. I was lucky and it came off the glass and stayed on the metal.
First of all, I've always had horrible problems with alignment with my Vario. The top of the screen was usually fine but the bottom would start drifting up. Cleaning the crap out of the edges under the bezel with a business card or doing the thumb rub was fine for that particular session but when I would sleep it and put it in my pocket, it was screwed up the next time. Dropping my Vario on the floor has managed to create a triangular dead zone that peaks at 1/2" from the bottom center and degrades towards the bottom left and right corners.
I bought a digitizer on Ebay from a seller in Hong Kong. It arrived about two weeks later and came with a T8 Torx and a case cracking tool. The T8 was thrown aside because it's obviously the wrong tool so I used my T5 and cracked the case. I won't get into disassembly/reassembly because that isn't the object of this and you can google the directions. Suffice it to say, when you reassemble the back half, ensure the volume slider on the case isn't going to snap the tab off of the volume switch on the board like I did the last time I disassembled it.
A note on this particular digitizer - It's NOT a HTC brand part. It's a generic part and doesn't have the glossy top sheet. I paid $20 shipped and for $20 it ain't bad. There is slightly less light transmitted and it's harder to read outdoors in direct sun but no big deal - it hasn't had to be realigned yet.
Now that you've removed the back cover, lifted out the board, unscrewed the LCD slider from the front cover, disassembled the two halves of the LCD slider, removed the screws that secure the top and bottom button pads to the LCD top frame and lifted out the LCD/button assembly and it's sitting in front of you - lets get to work!
First of all, you need to commit to this before you start making irreversible changes. If you've never soldered before, put this thing back together or find someone who has. You don't need a SMT station or the ability to solder 0605 components but since you're soldering on the plastic ribbon carrier, you need to be sure of your skills in order to not trash the LCD ribbon.
Now that you're ready to do this, examine the LCD panel and you will see that the digitizer is attached to the frame of the LCD panel. Use thin blade like a single edged razor to slide between the glass panel and the metal case and start lifting up the glass panel. If you're lucky, it'll want to stick to the metal case. As you lift the glass, poke in some tooth picks or similar to keep the glass from seating again. Start at a corner and work around going SLOWLY. I got to the bottom, rushed, and smashed the old part causing glass dust to go everywhere!. Try to avoid that.
Now that the old panel is off, cut the ribbon cable going from the base of the digitizer to the back of the LCD. Just slice it in half to get the old part out of the way.
At this point, align the new digitizer at the top of the frame first and then gently press it down. Ensure that ONLY the back's protective plastic sheet has been removed to avoid smudges and scratches. Now place the unit face down on something like a mousepad or similar surface.
There is a piece of Kapton tape across the digitizer ribbon and the backlight ribbon. Peel from the side with the digitizer FIRST! I started pulling from the backlight cable side and damn near pulled the backlight ribbon off!
GENTLY GENTLY GENTLY peel the old ribbon cable from the digitizer DOWN and ensure that it isn't ripping the pads away from the LCD cable. There may be a better way to do this but this method worked for me, I grabbed a corner with needle nose pliers and slowly pulled at a 45 degree angle. You want to pull the top which is the side soldered to the ribbon, not the bottom, which you cut earlier.
Plug that soldering pencil in, make sure it's set to 15w.
Now, with my el-cheapo digitizer, the ribbon from the front was slightly misaligned and I had to angle it over to the right. Otherwise if I went straight up it would've been misaligned about 2mm to the left. Ensure you have the traces parallel and directly on top of the existing ones and tape the bottom of the cable so it stays put. Another thing with my digitizer was the end required trimming. This made it easy to position when I had it bent back.
Now that the bottom is aligned and you don't have to mess with it, bend the cable back so that the copper traces are now facing up. The bend should be at the bottom 3rd of the exposed traces on the LCD cable. Make a nice sharp fold on the cable. Swab on a little bit of flux to make things easier to manage. Grab a popsicle stick or similar to push the new ribbon to the LCD ribbon, get the solder ready, and try to keep the heat on very shortly. You should only need 3 seconds of heat to get a decent solder joint because there is almost zero copper to heat up. Ensure the first joint is good by a quick tug of the cable and do the next three. After they are done, test with the meter going across to ensure the joint is good and from one side to each neighbor to make sure you have no shorts. Do the next three and then cut the extra ribbon cable off leaving maybe 1/4". Grab your tape and put a nice big piece across the back of the LCD covering both ribbon cables just like it was.
Now, reassemble your phone, turn it on, align the screen, and you ought to be good to go.
I don't take any responsibility for anything you might do to screw up your phone. These were my steps to fix my phone and they may not work for you and your phone.
As an aside, the new matte screen doesn't accumulate 'face gunk' quite like the old glossy one did. Also, the sensitivity is down a tiny bit and it needs more finger pressure to use Slide2Unlock. The digitizer also gets Newtonian Rings (google it) whereas the OEM one didn't. Also, there is a faint hum from the backlight (?) when it's on now that I didn't notice before.
So far, so good... The alignment on the bottom right corner is about 1.25mm above where the stylus point is but that might just be a problem with the screen itself. The alignment has stayed rock steady since I aligned it yesterday morning.
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My friend broke his touchscreen, and asked me to fix it. I've bought a replacement touchscreen, but I can't work out how to remove the the old touch glass. It's stuck on there with glue or something, I don't know. Is there a way to remove it other than painstakingly shattering each piece of glass and chipping away with a screw driver?
HTC Manual
Hi,
have no idea, but did you take a look into the HTC Service manual - which is available somewhere in the internet or in this forum. There it's explained how to disassemble the whole pda totally.
So long
HonkBB
HonkBB said:
Hi,
have no idea, but did you take a look into the HTC Service manual - which is available somewhere in the internet or in this forum. There it's explained how to disassemble the whole pda totally.
So long
HonkBB
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I have service manual but no explanation how to change touch screen only.
it most probably is soldered on the lcd. the touchscreen is held with a little bit of double sided tape around the edges of the lcd itself. just pull it of gently. the touchscreen cable is soldered onto the lcd cable (on the back), so you can pull that off gently or desolder the whole cable of. you have to solder the new touchscreen cable back onto the lcd screen, just using a little bit of tape to connect the copper wires will not do (i found that out the hard way with my device). good luck, i wasn't able to solder the touchscreen back onto the lcd.
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I have it done already. The touch part is connected to the display with the metal sheet with small dots on the edges. You need a small screwdriver to loose the edges and you should be able to remove whole metal frame with the glass. Then is just enough to unsolder the wirings or cut them off(you'll probably don't need the old frame).
To remove the glass touch screen I did as dennisv9 says, I found that by using a cotton bud with surgical spirit dabbed around the edge of the screen helped to loosen the stickiness of the tape making it easier to remove the screen in one piece by gently prising with your fingernails and dabbing as you go with the spirit.
You must also gently remove the tape that holds the connector tail on the back of the metalwork with care, peel from the bottom upward and try to hold the cable in place with your finger to save breaking any tracks. Now gently unsolder the connections and that is it. To replace it use a little flux on the connector and hold it in place with some masking tape and with a clean soldering iron reheat the solder and let it melt and flow. That is basically it, now reseat the screen and gently remove the masking tape and put some decent tape over the connections to secure them properly.
it most probably is soldered on the lcd. the touchscreen is held with a little bit of double sided tape around the edges of the lcd itself. just pull it of gently. the touchscreen cable is soldered onto the lcd cable (on the back), so you can pull that off gently or desolder the whole cable of. you have to solder the new touchscreen cable back onto the lcd screen, just using a little bit of tape to connect the copper wires will not do (i found that out the hard way with my device). good luck, i wasn't able to solder the touchscreen back onto the lcd.
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Just removed the digitiser from my lcd screen. Thank you for posting the service manual, most helpful for taking the xda apart.
I used a craft knife and very, very gingerly worked along the top then each edge. Repeating the process until the blade was just under the digitiser. Then teased it gently away from the screen, starting on one side then the other. I did make a slight crack in the touchpad but the screen is perfect.
I feel I should point out that the Himalaya (xda 2) has a choice of two screens, each screen has a specfic touchpad. My model was the PH10B, which needed the screen from the xda 2i (alpine). Not sure if this is the case for every PH10B but the connectors are very different for each screen and digitiser so not backwards compatible.
I have seen screens with digitisers attached for just under £30 on ebay (with tool, screen protector and instructions). I would recommend doing the straight swap rather than faffing around like I have but considering I got the touchpad for £6 there is a saving to be made..... "He who dares Rodders!!!"
Thank you so much for the post. It's really useful.
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You must also gently remove the tape that holds the connector tail on the back of the metalwork with care, peel from the bottom upward and try to hold the cable in place with your finger to save breaking any tracks. Now gently unsolder the connections and that is it. To replace it use a little flux on the connector and hold it in place with some masking tape and with a clean soldering iron reheat the solder and let it melt and flow. That is basically it, now reseat the screen and gently remove the masking tape and put some decent tape over the connections to secure them properly.
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I just don't clearly get the point, how to put the solder tip, does it on copper the wire or behind it? since the wire is so thin and mostly covered by sort of yellow thin plastic.
Too bad i just replaced my casing with a new one, i have a slight crack on my XDA iis screen, but i didnt replace it as i thought the glass was built in to the lcd screen.. at least now i know that its possible to remove just the glass..
I have the same problem ....
How to connect your LCD, it's not working ....
Any Ideas ?
and how, any ideas ??
I picked up a new screen off of the internet. I cannot find a guide to disassemble the Titan. Do I have to take the phone all the way apart to replace the lcd? Anyone have any useful links?
The only thing I found was a youtube walkthrough but she is replacing the casing not the lcd screen.
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instruction
hi,
i have changed my screen 3 times and my touchscreen 1 time. You dont need instruction the only thing you have to know is that you have to open the device completely to access the screen.
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I have just taken mine apart last night for the first time using no instructions and it really wasn't that bad. I got a digitizer coming in the mail, if you'd like to wait until I get it, I can take pictures of the dissasembly process and post the pics, but it may not be until Friday.
The steps are:
1. Remove battery cover, battery and stylus
2. Remove 4 hex screws then remove back cover gently
3. Remove the 4 phillips head screws that hold the motherboard in place
4. Lift the motherboard gently and remove the ribbon cables plugged in the back (there is silver tape holding it in place, peel that off gently)
5. Remove the 4 phillips head screwes that hold the slider, then while removing the slider chassis, carefully snake the ribbons through the square center
6. Remove the 4 phillips head screws holding the back of LCD case
7. Remove the top and bottom plastic strips where the screws were (there is another phillips head screw under one of those, just don't remember which one)
8. Gently separate the back cover from the LCD case
At this point, you have to just be careful of what you do. You have one long ribbon cable that is plugged in to the LCD and the buttons on top. Also, there is MUCH silver tape holding this mess in place, so peel the tape off gently until it is all separated. Once you got the tape off and the ribbon cable unplugged at both spots, it will all just fold downwards and the LCD/Digitizer should just fall out.
If you are replacing both LCD and Digitizer then that's easier, if you need to separatte those two then just gently remove the metal casing that is holding them together, there are clips that hold that metal casing in place, so just be gentle.
Like I said, if you'd rather wait for the pics then those should be around on Friday or so.
Hope this helps
-wagonis
Do you mind my asking of how much you paid?
there's a complete non-technical walkthrough floating around youtube and ^, ^^ are correct. It's not difficult if you're at least somewhat mechanically/electronically inclined..
Hey im panicing so bad rite now. I just broke my htc's LCD screen ! Mad sad from this disaster . Dont got much money so can someone please tell me whats the cheapest or best way to replace or fix it ? I really need help because im freaking out!
The repair choices
There are basically two choices. Doing it yourself or having it repaired.
In either case the most straight forward is to replace the screen and digitizer as one unit. I expect you can still see things on the screen yet its cracked from one corner. Its the digitizer on the top that usually suffers but its hard to replace by itself. There is a YouTube video showing how to do this (search on Replace Touch Screen on HTC HD2 on YouTube).
If you are game to do it yourself (an electronics tech would be able to do it fairly well, though it is still fairly difficult) then you can buy a complete screen and digitizer off ebay (around $100). Getting the unit out of the case is tricky as its held in with 4xT5 Torx screws (easy bit) and lock notches around the case (tricky part). I found thin stiff plastic bits slotted in between the module and the case works well at releasing the locking notches. Then press out at the top of the battery area, while pulling the top edge of the plastic case out and down with your finger nails. One side at a time. Don't forget to remove the SIM card and SD card as these will hold the module in place if not removed.
The double sided tapes used to hold the screen in place are a problem, but warming them up with a carefully applied heat gun does release them. I would add that there is no need to unscrew any of the electronics boards as the screen can be replaced without doing this. Releasing the screen ribbon cable connector is done by flipping up the black locking section on the ribbon socket. Slide in the new cable, lock it down, then curl it around as you slide it backward under the metal case so that the curl in the cable occurs in that small space under the metal rather than being folded over sharply, which can fracture the ribbon cable "wires" rendering the screen dead.
Press the screen back down onto the tape (hopefully the tape has remained slick enough as its all that holds the screen in place). Be careful to align the edges and top and bottom correctly, otherwise your buttons won't work and the screen will not sit in the case properly. You can test the buttons as you align to feel for the slight click. Be sure to test all four as alignment left to right is just as critical for full function as up and down. You should also watch to be sure the light sensor little plastic bit (its a small clear cube of plastic) doesn't fall out and disappear while you are doing the screen swap and it stays in place during reassembly.
Then press it home into the plastic case. I remove the volume button (if it hasn't fallen out already) as it tends to push the volume button pads out of alignment (they are only held in with yellow tape (be careful not to loose them). Then with it all snapped in place pull out at the volume button section and slot the button back in place. Orientation is fairly obvious with the button points lower down and the joining bar going behind the case plastic to lock it in place (all with the screen facing upward). You may find the volume button only works if you press down on the screen slightly. This movement will be taken up when you screw the 4 torx screws back in.
Finish by powering up (with fingers crossed) and test. Hopefully all working.
Alternatively, if thats put you off doing it yourself, get it repaired by a service agent (around $300). Then it comes back all done with a small warranty. Most of the phone providers will be able to direct you to a good independent service agent.
Hello all. Yes I am a noob to the forum, but not to small electronics and the dismantling of them. After getting everything set up on my machine necessary to Root my TF and side load the netflix app, I noticed my power button wasn't being as responsive as it should. Doing a quick google search I found that this was a common thing, even on TFs with stock firmware, so I took to dismantling the thing to figure out what is causing it.
I did a quick search to see if anyone has cracked the case open and found this thread. I didn't use a guitar pick, but rather a plastic and metal spuder set I had from repairing my mom's ipod touch (damn soldered batteries!).
Tools:
Tool Kit
Or
A T5 Torx bit
A spudger
#0 Phillips screwdriver.
Lock-Tite super glue gel (optional!)
1. Start by removing the two T5 torx bits from both sides of the charging/dock port
2. Use the plastic spudger or guitar pick and loose the seam around the entire case. If you look closely at the face, you will see the glass meet a black plastic rim and then the metal rim around that. What you are aiming to do is separate the black plastic from the glass. The plastic is glued to the metal so if you see adhesive separating, you are prying the wrong spot. There are various plastic tabs around the glass like a TV remote so using the plastic spuder is safer until you get some visible room to go in with the metal one.
3. Once you have the frame off, there are 4 #0 Phillips screws on the face, one at each corner, then 3 screws on the top and bottom of the frame (previously under the metal case
4. Removing all 4 face screws plus 6 rail screws will allow you to remove the back plastic. Now you can see everything
5. Bonus points for ASUS for giving us a battery that unplugs vs one that is soldered in (damn you apple). If you want some peace of mind, you can pop off the battery cable. I did not see any side effects from doing this (no data loss, etc).
6. On the side with the power and volume buttons, you will see a blue-tipped silver cable under a black tab. This black tab is what holds the ribbon down and lifts up like a toilet seat. It does not pull forward, it does not pop off (unless you broke it), but because it is plastic, be gentle. Once the tab is lifted, the silver cable will come out.
7. Unscrew the 3 #0 Phillip screws holding down the button board for easier access remove it.
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It doesn't matter whether you are having a volume issue or power button issue, so long as you know its hardware related. The way these buttons work is under constant pressure is "off" and removing that pressure turns it "on". So the metal tab pushes down on the plastic button, which pushes down on the switch. What is happening is over time, that metal tab gives way to less pressure on the daisy chain and the button stops working. The good news is, this metal tab is just held on via 'wings' around the soldered base. A razer knife is enough to gently lift the wings to pop the assembly apart for repairing. Given the construction of these switches, I wish ASUS just made the entire board available, but oh well.
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8. With the offending metal cap off, bend the middle thumb further down and back in to position and re-assemble the switch.
9. (Optional). I bent my tab further in to prevent me from having to re-do this operation several months from now, but doing so meant that ANY pressure on the button caused the metal cap to pop back off. That is really bad if the case is re-assembled. My solution was to swab some lock-tite super glue gel on the bottom wings and base of the metal cap and put it back on the switch. A very thin film is sufficient because it is a gel, it dries in seconds. WARNING> Once you reassemble the switch, keep pressure on the metal cap while you keep pressing the black button. If you don't, any glue leakage will lock that button in place.
Hi.
Does anybody know if it is possible to remove the screen without damaging it?
I want to replace my "home" button and from what I saw in guides on the internet removing the screen is a must.
Unfortunately all the guides available out there show the removal of an already damaged screen .
There is no mention if you can remove a good one without damaging anything. And I am not talking about cracking it because it is glue. I am talking about the foil on the back . some portions of it remain glued to the assembly. What purporse does it serve?
Hi.
I did this just last week.
Unscrew motherboard and bottom board.
Remove motherboard
flip bottom board (its held by the back and menu button ribbon cables, dont force them)
get a heat gun, put it to whatever temp the internet suggests to not damage anything (I used a gas soldering iron, but melted a bit of plastic)
get a PLASTIC wedge tool, I used one of those car upholstery remover kits
probably need gloves
Apply heat to both sides to soften glue; using wedge tool, separate stylus sensor copper foil glued to the plastic frame
Tedious, but I've only stretched a bit the copper foil, did not tear it. After remount, the stylus works accurately.