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Has anyone had any experience here writing code to take advantage of the internal speaker on our phone devices?
I know the external speaker is a standard peice of WM hardware, but there must be a way to call the internal speaker as well... this would be very useful for coding VOIP apps, as you can imagine.
Any thoughts?
Apparently the elusive Cicero networks product "Cicerophone" handled VOiP calls using the internal speaker!
This is something that other developing apps, such as Skype for WM, have failed to figure out so far.
Unfortunately, Cicero is very secretive, and as of yet no one else seems to know how to achieve this.
Anyone here know anything?
Which one is the internal speaker?
I think I wrote some audio routing code for this once...
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By "internal" I mean the handset speaker usually reserved only for phone calls.
Windows Mobile devices have always had an audio speaker which is easily accessible to developers as a standard audio device. However, phone devices have a SECOND speaker, one that is smaller and not as amplified, which is used to listen to phone conversations when the device is held up to your head. This smaller speaker is what I've seen called the "internal", although I admit that it may not be the correct term for it.
I'm asking because I would actually like to route audio to that speaker for certain applications, especially VoIP, which until now has been going to loudspeaker (which causes audio feedback and privacy issues).
Do you have experience with this sort of thing?
Devices from Eten, e.g. X500, M700 have a skype service programe that redirect vioces from speaker to earphone. I don't know how it works but i just made a test to trick the service and direct the sound to earphone when making VOIP calls.
Dishe said:
Apparently the elusive Cicero networks product "Cicerophone" handled VOiP calls using the internal speaker!
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Hi! Where can i buy/download cicerophone ?
Partially Solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I apologize for cross posting, but if you use the provided wired headset, everything is OK and voip (i.e.: Fring, etc) runs great, no echo e no voice feedback.
TRY IT!!!!!!!
I thought we all knew that already...
I've been using a BT headset and the BTAudio app to reroute all sound input/output to the headset. Problem is, you have to initialize it every time you want to make/receive a VOIP call, otherwise it will eat your battery very quickly since it keeps a constant audio channel live to your headset, even when there is no sound currently being played.
The problem is, when I leave voip on and slip the phone in my pocket, I'm not always using my wired headset and/or BT headset when the phone rings, and its silly that I can't use hardware that's sitting on my device in my hands.
Hi ,
I searched and couldn't find cicerophone anywehere .
do u know by any chance where we can download or buy it ?
tnx
no, its not for sale.
It was developed to sell to a telecom, and they are still trying to sell the technology. There never was a consumer edition of the software, only beta and evaluation versions that some people were fortunate enough to get their hands on for review purposes. They have done a very good job of keeping a VERY tight lid on this- its not available ANYWHERE, and they don't have any plan of making it available to the general public.
This tree has been barked up many times, its a lost cause.
Maybe some guy can have a look at the SkypeSettings.exe and SkypeSettings.dll files from Eten.
From what I saw, it only deals with the WAV1: device. No more devices are listed. Probably it captures the audio from it and than sends it to front speaker.
It does not run on my PDA. The settings tab also appears grayed out, so the app know it is not an Eten.
Unfortunately I could not debug the file on my device, given that IDA does not work on WM6, but probably both files have a check for Eten device, and if it is of a different brand the apps terminate.
Hello everyone,
I am going to buy HTC HD2 from O2 soon. I've just spent a couple of
minutes in the shop playing with the phone and it's great.
The only thing keeping me away from buying it is the lack of call recording
application. I need to record my incoming and outgoing calls.
So, my question is: Have you come across any application to record the calls
if not, is anything like that in the pipeline?
Thanks,
Laurentius26 ROMS have Automatic Call recording, application which record phone calls automatically and after the call, ask you if you want to save them or not... it is call ACR... I have not managed to find the application that same application that works on the HD2 outside Lau's rom... maybe if we ask him?....
Anyway, yes there is an application..
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Laurentius26 ROMS have Automatic Call recording, application which record phone calls automatically and after the call, ask you if you want to save them or not... it is call ACR... I have not managed to find the application that same application that works on the HD2 outside Lau's rom... maybe if we ask him?....
Anyway, yes there is an application..
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Would be great to have that on the HD2, but I don't want to flash my HD2!
Try Audio Notes Touch at from iWindowsMobile at iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-audio-recorder.html
Enjoy - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472
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Enjoy - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472
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thanks, but my point was laurentius has it working on his rom.....
this version..well
"Devices that only work one way
Touch HD2
HTC XDA2
Xperia X1"
Apparently ACR suffers from very low caller volume and I've just tried Audio Notes Touch v1.03 and its the same.. really would be nice to find a fully working set of software that will work on our HD2's..
Hi Terry,
I ve noticed you are with O2. Did you have any problem
using ANT 1.3 in the UK, as it says its "These applications are not legal in all countries".
You said:"suffers from very low caller volume", cld u tell me more pls.
Can you hear the conversation well when re-listen? (does it help if u plug your headphones in to re-listen?)
Is there any noise in the background? Is it enough clear to understand the talk?
I am not a native speaker thats why I am asking about the details.
Thanks
This works on some depending how the mic is wired.
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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Hi Terry,
You said:"suffers from very low caller volume", cld u tell me more pls.
Can you hear the conversation well when u plug your headphones?
Is there any noise in the background? Is it enough clear to understand the talk?
I am not a native speaker thats why I am asking about the details.
Thanks
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To be honest I did forget to mention one important thing which is I always use a bluetooth headset which may well have an effect so I'll have to try it again without it..
With the bluetooth it records my voice perfectly but the caller can hardly be heard as they are very quiet...(this is by playing it back with bluetooth switched off and listening to the phones speaker..if I playback a recording while still connected to bluetooth I hear nothing at all!) Sorry but I dont use plug in headphones of any sort at all as I don't like getting tangled up in wires
There is no problem with background hiss or static but you would need to be somewhere really quiet to be able to hear the recorded callers voice (in fact on my second test call,I couldn't hear it at all) no need to applogise for your language..this is the only one I know so it's me who should be blushing from ignorance.
Now going to try again but without bluetooth...
Well,if you use the phone without bluetooth it seems to work perfectly...my voice was crystal clear and the other voice was as clear as it was when I was speaking to them (obviously if you have poor reception due to your connection, quality of the recorded voice will be at the same level)
I've also just found some other recorders that I'm going to test out ,when I can, to see if any of them offer bluetooth support!
How well does it work for video or audio calls? Has anybody tested it all?
I tried it last night. Made about a 10 minute call using Skypeout to a landline and it worked great. The call was very clear. It was audio only..... is there a video client for android?
I've used the official Skype app which seems to work fine so far (it does not have vid chat option, but also there is no front facing cam on the desire z)
Works great so far for chat and voice.
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Chat works fine, voice chat seemed to work fine the one time I've tried it so far although the person I was calling couldn't seem to sort out their microphone situation (common problem ) so I couldn't hear them, but apparently they could hear me fine. Fring also seems to work pretty well, I decided to take a $10 chance on their FringOut service to test that out, since the price is quite competitive vs SkypeOut..only 0.6c/minute for Canadian calls. After about 5-10 minutes into the call it started to get really choppy, but I think that may have had more to do with the shared and heavily used internet connection I was on than Fring. I have heard mixed reviews about it though. Skype seems like the more reliable choice still.
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Chat works fine, voice chat seemed to work fine the one time I've tried it so far although the person I was calling couldn't seem to sort out their microphone situation (common problem ) so I couldn't hear them, but apparently they could hear me fine. Fring also seems to work pretty well, I decided to take a $10 chance on their FringOut service to test that out, since the price is quite competitive vs SkypeOut..only 0.6c/minute for Canadian calls. After about 5-10 minutes into the call it started to get really choppy, but I think that may have had more to do with the shared and heavily used internet connection I was on than Fring. I have heard mixed reviews about it though. Skype seems like the more reliable choice still.
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A little off topic, but I have tried many different VoIP solutions over the years. Vonage works ok, but is a bit pricey. Lately Ive tried Google new calling from Gmail on my laptop and was disappointed with the results. I finally decided to spend some money on Skypeout ($3/month subscription and a skype in number $30/year with a subscription). So for a total of $60/year I feel like I have a great solution that I can use on my laptop or on my mobile (android). In gereral skype to skype sound good. skype to landlines sound good IF you use a headset (I have a digital one) but lousy without a headset. Skype to skype and skype to landlines works very well on android and very good on the DZ.
Using Skype, Gtalk, etc with A500.
I tried to make a call with Skype (Skype testing service) - the sound quality was poor.
Tried to make a call to another Skype user - I could hear him well, but my voice was muffled.
Solution:
Just plug in a headphone/earpiece (that has NO microphone) into the headset. You can then use the internal mic on the A500 to make your calls over Skype. The sound quality is very good in both skype and gtalk.
I did try my Iphone's earpiece, which has a mic, but the sound was muffled.
Hope this helps.
banksia said:
Using Skype, Gtalk, etc with A500.
I tried to make a call with Skype (Skype testing service) - the sound quality was poor.
Tried to make a call to another Skype user - I could hear him well, but my voice was muffled.
Solution:
Just plug in a headphone/earpiece (that has NO microphone) into the headset. You can then use the internal mic on the A500 to make your calls over Skype. The sound quality is very good in both skype and gtalk.
I did try my Iphone's earpiece, which has a mic, but the sound was muffled.
Hope this helps.
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I have to do this too, do any others not have to do this?
I spoke with my wife a few minutes ago and asked her how I sounded the other day. I used Gtalk and she did too... she was able to hear me and I was very clear.
Not only that, but I was using 3G with only a single bar. Had poor video quality obviously, but sound was flawless.
Called with video on gTalk, being on WIFI - good quality audio, average video...
Skype working with no problem, too
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Called with video on gTalk, being on WIFI - good quality audio, average video...
Skype working with no problem, too
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where did you guys find the gtalk and Skype with video
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where did you guys find the gtalk and Skype with video
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Uhh gtalk has video with gmail gtalk or other supporting android device.
Skype I think has video only with select Verizon handsets or something like that
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where did you guys find the gtalk and Skype with video
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Only GTalk had video calling feature for me. It just was here originally. Called from my Desktop with web-cam to my Acer.
Skype - audio only. No video. (yet? )
ok got you. thanks guys
how did you guys managed to use gtalk with video in canada? Isn't it only available in states ?
Nope It is available everywhere in the world.
If the person you are trying to reach has a video version of gtalk you should see a green camera on the side.
PS for those that do not have a video version of gtalk on their android phone you can use a free app called vtok which allows videoconferencing with gtalk client
That is what i have been using on my HTC DHD and it works great.
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Where is the microphone located ? I'm never sure which areas to aim my voice towards when speaking.
Holding the A500 in portrait mode, with the volume control button on the right, look for a small hole on the right side, between the glass and the bezel.
It is about 5 inches from where the power switch is located.
________<----- on/off
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| | <---- mic
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_________
If you have the Acer case, the mic is cover by the velcro tab (go figure).
Is there a mic for the front camera?
I can't seem to find one.
Thank you. Took me a minute but I found it. Voice to text has been very difficult thus far in comparison to my nexus 1.
is there a software fix to the mic issue?
banksia said:
Using Skype, Gtalk, etc with A500.
I tried to make a call with Skype (Skype testing service) - the sound quality was poor.
Tried to make a call to another Skype user - I could hear him well, but my voice was muffled.
Solution:
Just plug in a headphone/earpiece (that has NO microphone) into the headset. You can then use the internal mic on the A500 to make your calls over Skype. The sound quality is very good in both skype and gtalk.
I did try my Iphone's earpiece, which has a mic, but the sound was muffled.
Hope this helps.
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thanks so just download the skype and you are in business. Is this easy to use sir?
found a fix, you can use an external mic the one built in is good but the software is making it retard. If you plug in a headphone with a mic in it or just a plain old mic it will work great, i have tested it for a good 3 hours, it works. Much much better sound.
google voice search doesn't work for $$$$ no matter how good your mic is. 3.1 was a huge ****up by acer HUGE
Can someone do some modification so that we can use video as people in galaxy s did?
my mcs are worthless can't do anything with them no voice commands work neither will the search or Skype or GT. Absolute bs
My mic works flawlessy for google voice search i have no idea how?
I think the issue is that some folks aren't used to a true noise cancelling mic. It's using a dual analog noise cancelling mic. so it's filtering noise while capturing your voice or capturing your voice 'twice' if you're using it properly/close by.
If you're trying to use the Mic in a noisy area, it may cancel some of your voice as noise unless you speak up or put it somewhat close to your face or speak directly facing it. In other words, picture yourself on a video call. When you set yourself up to be seen by the camera properly, that is ultimately when the Mic will be at it's best.
I imagine people are using it with with a phone's mic in mind but they are unfortunately not the same. A phone's mic is located as close to the mouth as possible without allowing users to blow into it. The mic on the A500 is located away/out of finger reach, primarily and directly facing your mouth.
In the end, I think the best advice for using the mic is telling you to use it like you're on a speakerphone call. Clear, precise vocalization. You can also run the best test with the Voice Recorder to kind of hear how well your voice is picked up from various angles. I found, as I mentioned before...that I am most clear in either portrait or landscape mode with the tablet roughly a foot to 18 inches from my face, similar to how I'd hold it for a web cam. I found that if I spoke as if I were using a speakerphone, I got the best results....even while the TV is on or music is playing. I lost ground however, when I lay the tablet flat on a surface or docked out of line of sight, that is, beside me or elsewhere. I also have no issues with using Google Voice Search.
Google Voice showed up on the Market and also Amazon. It's functional but does not include call-out capabilit as I had hoped. It will do voicemail and text message but you still need GrooveIP if you want to be able to do Voice over Google Voice
You have to have a GV account set up and a GV number, but it's goovy. I don't have GrooveIP yet but am seriously considering it at $5. I've got a cool pair of noise reducing BT headphones that have a mic, so I might as well.
Ive been using grooveIP on my no service DX via google voice and it works great. I can only imagine it'll work fine on the tab.
Its certainly worth the 5 bucks.
It had been available for week at least, but since I didn't find the call button, I am not too much a fan. I complaint on google's forum about the GV for Tablet. Does the GV for phone has a call button? I think it does. I don't have an android phone.
GrooveIP was on sale on amazon last week for $2....i just missed it too
When adding the widget look at the messages it shows funny stuff
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mknewman said:
I've got a cool pair of noise reducing BT headphones that have a mic, so I might as well.
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I don't think Bluetooth microphones work (yet), just the stereo A2DP. I've tried really hard to pair a Plantronics Savor M1100 which does both regular hands-free microphone and A2DP audio... but Honeycomb 3.1 only shows the A2DP profile.
However, I'd love to be proven wrong! I use Google Talk / Video Chat a lot so it would be a very welcome addition.
On my Android phone it allows you to choose if you always want to use GV for calls, ask every time, never, or only for International calls. It uses the stock dialer, which is where GrooveIP comes in. My reluctance in buying GrooveIP is it would seem a natural fit for Google to include outbound calling for tablets, so there would be no need for it. My guess is eventually Google will buy GrooveIP (they buy everyone!) and it'll become closely integrated.
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It had been available for week at least, but since I didn't find the call button, I am not too much a fan. I complaint on google's forum about the GV for Tablet. Does the GV for phone has a call button? I think it does. I don't have an android phone.
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