I've purchased a second hand xda2, and found (not entirely to my suprise) that the battery life wasn't great - typically less than a day even if it had sit in the charging cradle the previous night.
So i went to o2 shop yesterday lunch time and purchased a new battery. They charged it for me on a rapid charger - took 30 minutes. However by the time I got home at 8.30pm the XDA2 was reporting very low battery - this is the new one - So I put that down to the rapid charger and I fully charged that one over night last night and took it out of the cradle at about 8 this morning.
It's already reporting 57% percent battery.
Now ok, i'm aware I've been using BT a lot to sort my active sync this morning etc, but surely battery life should be better than this? I used to have an IPAQ and that needed recalibrating because it was incorrect at guessing how quickly the battery would drain. Does this happen with the XDAs? if so how can I recalibrate or is something else likely to be draining the batt?
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Anthony
well the manual say you have to charge it for 24hours or so the first time
i would try to do that
also look if it's the normal batt or backup batt which is complaining
otherwise the batt life should inc the more times you charge it
Rudegar said:
well the manual say you have to charge it for 24hours or so the first time
i would try to do that
also look if it's the normal batt or backup batt which is complaining
otherwise the batt life should inc the more times you charge it
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Ok i'll try leaving it in the cradle over the weekend and switch back to my normal phone - backup battery is 100%. My old battery is in the aux battery holder in the cradle and has been since 1.30 this morning so maybe tommorow i'll give that one a whirl again!
Thanks
Try it with bluetooth switched off for a day and see if you get a different result. The other possibility is if you're in a low coverage area and your phone is constantly polling for network availability - is this likely to be the case?
If none of these apply, are you running any other peripherals, e.g. SD Wireless card? Just trying to whittle down the possibilities before blaming the hardware.
rgds,
Alex.
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
M4io said:
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
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Did this last night! thanks
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M4io said:
also upgrading to 1.72 should help.
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Did this last night! thanks
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Make sure that you don't have the Blackberry Software running unless yoou're using Blackberry ! (Check the taskbar for an envelope icon). If you do run it, and you're not connected / subscribed to a Blackberry service then you'll get less than 12 hours on your battery.
Mark
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Make sure that you don't have the Blackberry Software running unless yoou're using Blackberry ! (Check the taskbar for an envelope icon). If you do run it, and you're not connected / subscribed to a Blackberry service then you'll get less than 12 hours on your battery.
Mark
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Would BB be running by default if i've upg'd to 1.72?
I've uninstalled it as I don't plan to use it - I'll see how we go.
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Ant
My wizard seems to have an amazingly long battery life.
After owning every previous XDA (1, 2, 2s, 2i) I expect - in fact demand - that my PDA needs charging daily.
I feel positively cheated by the fact that I hardly ever seem to need to charge my Wizard - it goes for days without seeing the USB cable; I just checked it after four days and it still had 40% power left. Plus even if I do let it run down I still don't lose my data. What do HTC think they are doing?
I'll definitely be sending mine back.
Anybody got an old Rex going spare?
i'm confused... why you sending it back? mines been running for i'd say about 24 hours since i took it off its initial charge cycle and its at 52%
I actually have two rexi. They're still pretty much the cutest PDA I ever saw. Got them when I was in Singapore, was so chuffed! Reading ebooks on the bus was a new idea back then :shock: Needs a new battery now though!
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LOL
If you really wanna drain the battery, just surf using wifi with the screen on full bright & powersave mode off. it'll be just like using a crappy old PDA (battery wise) - dead within a few hours :lol:
Sorry fone_fanatic - it's called the "British sense of humour" (or humor to you). Ask a Canadian - they can probably explain it to you :wink:
I have just noticed that my wizard battery lasts much longer (a few days also) when I charge it with the USB cable (attached to PC). It seems that, for some reason, the power adapter does not charge it the way it should (it reaches 100% in a couple of hours while it takes longer with USB sync cable)...
Am I the only one ?
Cheers,
Dear All,
I have a strange problem here.
I just purchased a used wizard and installed a new t-mobile rom, but, once I connect the charger or the usb, the orange charging light starts blinking!
The battery doesn't charge, but drains very fast.
I re-installed another rom, but it's the same, and I installed another, but also the same.
I checked the battery on another phone, but nothing was wrong with it, then I installed the battery of the other phone on my wizard, and it did the same problem!
I checked another charger, but it's the same thing!
The phone is fully functional, and works 100% other than when charging it!
Any suggestions???
Same problem here. The battery drains almost emidiatly when I charged it. After a couple of time it wont even charges anymore. Tried 3 batteries. All batteries seems to have died. Horrible.
Please... anyone recognize this problem?????
To add: I put in a brand new OEM battey from Sanyo. Charged it with the wallcharger. Then when I put on the device it drains almost imediatly. A brand new battery !! Then tried to recharge the batery and then the phone shows a red led light? What is going on!.
OH, AND NOT FORGET i DID install a new ROm from Moski but the same problem. So, replaced the ROM and battery. Is the wallcharger defect or my QTEK 9100??
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OH, AND NOT FORGET i DID install a new ROm from Moski but the same problem. So, replaced the ROM and battery. Is the wallcharger defect or my QTEK 9100??
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Sounds like a defective wizard to me. Might be time to return it and get a replacement.
If you have already purchased new OEM batteries, and you're still having this problem, one would have to assume that it's the charger you're using. A buddy that works with me bought a mini USB wall charger for his Cingular 8125, and on the 1st charge, it completley drained his battery, and it was unable to charge again. $50 bucks later for a new OEM battery and charger, and never had this problem again.
Thanks for the responces. I ordered an aftermarket charger and hope that that solves the problem. I recently bought it for about 210 euro 2ndhand. Sometimes it does startup and looks ok but then in less then a minute the power dies. I will look after the 5 volts and 1 amp. on the new charger by the way.
Once again, if someone recognice this problem I really are interested in the solution if found.
Offourse I will let now if I found out. I'm praying that the wallcharger is the problem.
i had that problem when i was using the razr charger with my 8125. i thought it was the same because they are both mini usb. WRONG!
i hope this is not what you are doing. is your charging cable oem?
Hi. Got a replacement wallcharger and when i plug it it in the led on my Wizard turns RED emediatly. Charger has the same spec. as the OEM. So. Still a dead wizard. Anyone any thoughts?
By the way. I cant even find out what the red light on my wizard means. Should be orange when charging. Red doesnt looks good.
same problem
I'm having almost the same problem
The red light
My wizard won't start, and by the way, I was charging it with a motorola charger cause I only had the car charger , and the cable is 2 short. I actually charge it several times... a month and some, no problems, till now I posted a new thread,
I don't know what to do ... Can it be the main battery ... mabe my charger depleted it I had resco tools installed an it said that my main battery is at 100% ...
Now when I plug it in the car charger, it does nothing..., and when I plug it in the moto charger it shows a red light.
If someone finds anything, please reply.
I found a thread...
Plug in your pda without your battery inside. It shows the red light. Insert your battery, and the led will turn off. Press the power off button, and, voila....it starts. By the way, after it was brought back to life, I quickly pluged into the usb...and the led turned orange. My battery was 0%
Hope this helps. By the way, it's not necessary to work from the first time. Worse possible scenario, let your pda to "rest" without the battery insite for an hour and then try again. I heard it has something to do with heat...I mean, if it's cold, there are less chances... don't laugh It may be true. For me it worked the first time. Good luck.
I was having the same problem. It was fine for a week using this other USB charger then yesterday it was not charging and today it was totally dead.
Thank you guys for the information
but what is different about the chargers? or USB cables I mean?
There are a few scenarios going on here.. (some of these things people have tried and got the same result, but i want to lay them all out on the table here)
A. The aftermarket chargers you are using may not meet the 5V 1A rating as the factory chargers... aftermarket chargers or even factory chargers for other devices such as motorola have an output of 5v 0.5A. Now the .5amp charger can charge the device just as long as its idle and not draining faster than it can be charged.
B. Defective Charger
C. Defective battery
D. Defective Phone
*Note- i did not mention roms due to the fact that phones will charged when they are completely off (not asleep)
Now that we have identified the possible problems we can start to identify possible solutions. (If your phone is completely dead and wont turn on then you may need to search for a thread entitled "Dead Wizard, Never lets revive" in the upgrading board)
Before you go to bed, turn the phone completely off and plug into the OEM charger that is rate output of 5V 1A, make sure the the orange charging light is on and go to sleep (you, not the phone, its off remember ) If this does not solve the issue then try this same thing with another battery and the same charger, if that fails, then try this the old battery and a new charger.....
If after you do all of this and its still not charging properly then your phone is defective.
if i didnt make much sense its cause i am tired and will clarify in the morning if i can
I'd like to make an observation here about some rather choppy battery life that I have been experiencing with my Wizard. I'd like to know if this is inside NORMAL behaviour parameters.
At 8AM this morning, my battery was disconnected from the charger with the battery fully charged.
Between 8AM and 11AM my total phone usage duration was 10 minutes. At 11AM, my battery displayed 91% Charge.
Then exatcly at 11AM, I turned on my Opera Browser and used it for 12 minutes, after which the battery dipped another 7% from 91% to 85%. I noted this reading at 11:12 AM.
After this I put my phone on standby. From 11:12 to 18:30 hrs, I recieved 1 missed call and a total of 2 SMS plus 4 emails. During this time I have not made or recieved any other calls. At 18:30 hrs, I noted that my battery was at 71%.
My phone is set to send and recieve emails every 15 mins. I have only one pull email account and one push email account.
Other than what I have mentioned above, there was no other phone activity. I do not have any background apps running except for SPB Pocket Plus and the Battery Status Application.
Please let me know if this is similar to what all of you are experiencing or should I get a new battery? My phone still has about 6 months of warranty on it? Will I be able to get a replacement for it on these grounds?
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I'd like to make an observation here about some rather choppy battery life that I have been experiencing with my Wizard. I'd like to know if this is inside NORMAL behaviour parameters.
At 8AM this morning, my battery was disconnected from the charger with the battery fully charged.
Between 8AM and 11AM my total phone usage duration was 10 minutes. At 11AM, my battery displayed 91% Charge.
Then exatcly at 11AM, I turned on my Opera Browser and used it for 12 minutes, after which the battery dipped another 7% from 91% to 85%. I noted this reading at 11:12 AM.
After this I put my phone on standby. From 11:12 to 18:30 hrs, I recieved 1 missed call and a total of 2 SMS plus 4 emails. During this time I have not made or recieved any other calls. At 18:30 hrs, I noted that my battery was at 71%.
My phone is set to send and recieve emails every 15 mins. I have only one pull email account and one push email account.
Other than what I have mentioned above, there was no other phone activity. I do not have any background apps running except for SPB Pocket Plus and the Battery Status Application.
Please let me know if this is similar to what all of you are experiencing or should I get a new battery? My phone still has about 6 months of warranty on it? Will I be able to get a replacement for it on these grounds?
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from what i can remember when i had my wizard i think that sounds pretty good actually...
thanks for that shogunmark. Do you have an approximation as to how much battery drain there would be for apps like Opera? 7% in 12 mins seems to be a lot. Also I have a feeling that if Opera is running in the background, the battery drains very quickly even though the device is set to go into standby after 1 min of inoperation. I can't confirm this but I have a feeling this has happened to me.
Also, since my messaging app checks for email ever 15 mins, how much of a battery drain will that be?
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thanks for that shogunmark. Do you have an approximation as to how much battery drain there would be for apps like Opera? 7% in 12 mins seems to be a lot. Also I have a feeling that if Opera is running in the background, the battery drains very quickly even though the device is set to go into standby after 1 min of inoperation. I can't confirm this but I have a feeling this has happened to me.
Also, since my messaging app checks for email ever 15 mins, how much of a battery drain will that be?
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i cant offer an approximation since it has been a month since i switched to the hermes.. but i can say that i would pull mine off the charger around 8am and by 11pm i would need to charge.. but i used data heavily.. opera, pushmail, at LEAST 30 text a day, and maybe 45 minutes in calling a day. now 7% in 12 minutes does seem excessive, but running java apps is demanding on the phone, takes a lot of resources.
Tips on extending battery life.
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i cant offer an approximation since it has been a month since i switched to the hermes.. but i can say that i would pull mine off the charger around 8am and by 11pm i would need to charge.. but i used data heavily.. opera, pushmail, at LEAST 30 text a day, and maybe 45 minutes in calling a day. now 7% in 12 minutes does seem excessive, but running java apps is demanding on the phone, takes a lot of resources.
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I can not aggree with this. I use my windows live and it syncs every 15 min I send out at least 300 txts a day and I use around 90 min of talk time during the day, (thank God for unlimited txt msgs and free nites and weekends). I use the web at least 40 min total and I listen to my MP3s on it on the train ride to and from work which lasts about 20 min from Manhattan to BKlyn. I dont recharge the phone the until I get home around 7pm charge for an hour and go out again.
I have noticed that certain Roms tend to suck out power much like my x-girfriend sucks out my money for Child Support. I have played around with running certian programs and adjusting the backlight settings and this has helped me keep the phone running all day.
My suggestion would be to change the rom and see if your drain contiunes. Then try to have your backlight turn off with in the 10 secs. If you are overclocking your phone when you dont need that extra Mhz turn it back down to 195 or if your really adventurous turn it down to the 170's for some extra power savings. Last but not least make sure your Active Sync is not turning on all the time by adding a fake server source. If all that fails buy the cradle with the spare battery charger and carry an extra battery. Good luck and godspeed!
Use 1A charger
This has been stated already, but after buying 5 extended batteries thinking they were all dying, I bought a 1A charger on ebay. Payed about US$25 shipped, but it made all my troubles go away. A reseller sold me my 8125 with a Razr charger and I thought it would be fine but it wasn't. Use a 1A charger!!!
I keep reading about this "Wizard draining battery" issue on here. I can't say that I've EVER had a problem with my battery draining.
I keep mine on the USB sync cable overnight to charge, pull it off in the morning around 8:30 when I leave for work. At that point, the battery is at 100%. Send/receive 4 - 5 text messages, 15 - 20 minutes of phone calls, PocketWeather updating every 2 hours, emails pulled from my POP3 server every 1/2 hour PLUS intermittent internet browsing and data entry into some of my apps. . . also running WA2 in the background. When I leave work at night, I still have between 77% - 83% battery life left.
Maybe it's just that I keep it "topped off" that I'm not experiencing any battery drain throughout the day -- I don't know. But, I've had no problems with mine.
Hi!
Just changed to a new 3rd-party battery and I was told to charge it for 10hrs before use. So I did. I left it overnight and guess what?
Now, I my battery status always showing at 100% - never drop even after hours of using. I even took out the battery and put it back but it still remains at 100%
Short of hard resetting is there any way to modify the registry setting temporary to get rid of this nuisance
Any help? Thanks
This has been dealt with on the Universal Accessories part of the forum - search there and you will see a long discussion about. You probably have a duff battery.
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Hi!
Just changed to a new 3rd-party battery and I was told to charge it for 10hrs before use. So I did. I left it overnight and guess what?
Now, I my battery status always showing at 100% - never drop even after hours of using. I even took out the battery and put it back but it still remains at 100%
Short of hard resetting is there any way to modify the registry setting temporary to get rid of this nuisance
Any help? Thanks
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Is it a Cameron Sino battery? I've had 3 and they all do this. I think it's just a fault with their batteries.
Cheers,
Steve.
My advice to you is to get an extended battery.
I had problems with all the generic batteries (even the ones that look like the original).
As soon as I got an extended battery, all the issues went away.
It's big, ugly and expensive, but at least I can use the Universal for another year until the batteries start developing problems again.
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My advice to you is to get an extended battery.
I had problems with all the generic batteries (even the ones that look like the original).
As soon as I got an extended battery, all the issues went away.
It's big, ugly and expensive, but at least I can use the Universal for another year until the batteries start developing problems again.
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Or simply get hold of an original battery - they work fine.
RE
Hi!
You all are right. I took my previous battery and it does show the correct status.
My new battery still can be used but I just make sure I charge it every night just in case
Thanks for the advices
Have the Same Problem with my XDA,have the original ?? & a spare battery,the same on both,Can someone post a Picture of the original battery for the o2 Exec for me ,so that I can Compare? Never know when my Exec will die on me.Thanks
I have a new Juno from T-Mo. battery last less than one day with the stock windows mobile rom. I have googled and it looks like a common problem with the Juno. Any known Fixes?
p0lar
buy the extended battery for $60
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I have a new Juno from T-Mo. battery last less than one day with the stock windows mobile rom. I have googled and it looks like a common problem with the Juno. Any known Fixes?
p0lar
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Turn off your BT and wifi when not in use and use the task manager to shut-down all other unused apps. I get 2 days on my battery, but I only text on average 10 messages spend a couple of hours and use the BT 2 to 3 hours on the phone each day.
There is no "known fix". I talked to a T-Mo rep after first getting the phone last year. She told me she was as dissatisfied as I was, even though I didn't actually say I was dissatisfied (only curious about a possible fix in the works).
yeah Wifi and BT are off. but we TXT alot. Ill turn down the back light time to see if that helps
the FAT battery wont be a "style acceptable" option in this case
i just deal with it
I have a second battery and a desktop charger.
Car charger helps either.
I mentioned it to T-Moe myself at the beginning and they sent me a new battery for back-up and a charger aswell. I guess by them doing that tells me, there was no quick fix for the battery issue.
I have noticed though with the 6.1 upgrade my battery life seems to be a tad bit better.
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I have a new Juno from T-Mo. battery last less than one day with the stock windows mobile rom. I have googled and it looks like a common problem with the Juno. Any known Fixes?
p0lar
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Short of turning off a whole bunch of connectivity options (BT/WiFi), the only real option is the Boxwave Extended Battery.
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even when the backlight is set to 5 seconds. the half backlight stays on a long time. almost a minute. any fix for that?
p0lar
I also turned off Beam in Comm Manager and I set Automatic Sending/Recieving of Email to a long time period or for less important email accounts to manual.
WM 6.1, mail check over GPRS each 15 minutes, BT ON ever, WiFi Off. 15-30 mins calls per day. 1 hour of book reading. Standard battary lasts for 24-28 hours. Just carging thrue wall socket and Motorolla power adapter. In case of charging via USB from PC it only 15-18 hours. May be this can help for someone looking for longer battery life.
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I mentioned it to T-Moe myself at the beginning and they sent me a new battery for back-up and a charger aswell. I guess by them doing that tells me, there was no quick fix for the battery issue.
I have noticed though with the 6.1 upgrade my battery life seems to be a tad bit better.
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I do Agree the 6.1 update really i get almost 2 times the standby even with wifi and bt on.. however I also called Tmobile and they did send me a second battery .. now i just need to get me a stand alone charger and im golden.
I bought a second and third battery off of ebay for $10 each including shipping. The batteries are small so it's easy to stash a spare so ya have it when ya need it.