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Flashing ROMs is dangerous !!!

There's two type of ROM upgrades: Operating System ROM upgrades and Radio Stack Upgrades.
Radio Stack Upgrades:
Radio Stack upgrades are distributed by the devices resellers. They come in packages with names that may or may not include "Programme B" or "RSU", and they are usually about 2 MB in size. Version numbers are a mess, and lower version numbers do not mean earlier versions. There's at least three different paths of version numbering out there, and the version number on the file doesn't always match the version number displayed at boot and by 'Device Information'.
The official Radio Stack Upgrade process is a mess. We've seen way too many people wreck their devices doing nothing weird or strange. Our advice regarding Radio Stack upgrades is to get them from your own device provider (so you know it's for you type of device: 900/1800 or 900/1900 MHz), and to only upgrade if you know the upgrade will fix known issues that are bothering you.
Operating System Upgrades:
Operating System upgrades are distributed by the resellers in packages whose names may contain "Programme A" or "RUU" (to confuse things, RUU stands for "Radio Unit Upgrade", even though they do not upgrade the Radio part but the PDA part). Operating System upgrades are usually 15 MB in size, and unless you use our utility 'adaptROM', they will only install on phones sold by specific resellers in specific markets.
In this community, the OS is sometimes also distributed as .nb1 file, for use with our XDArit tool. These files are often zipped to about 15 MB, uncompressed they are 32MB (well: 32 MB minus 256 kB actually).
We've seen a number of people doing terrible things to their devices by upgrading their OS ROMs. Here's what we've seen:
- It appears someone is distributing an EXE file for the PPC2003 ROM that contains a part of the OS in the spot where the bootloader needs to be. People that use this EXE to upgrade to 2003 may experience problems immediately or later on, possible making their device unusable.
- We've observed our XDArit tool in the hands of people that should not be using it. If you don't know what a DOS box is, or think you can rename .nb1 files to .nb0, or if you generally do not feel technically proficient, do not use XDArit. It's as simple as that.
(We also blame ourselves for this: XDArit is very counter-intuitive in some parts, and is long-due for an overhaul....)
- Apart from the above, there seem to be problems for people getting back from PPC2003 to earlier versions of the OS. We've been busy doing other things, and we haven't really researched this yet.
- It seems the exe files Jeff makes are OK, and if they aren't, people would know pretty quickly. We advise against running exe-files from others until we've found what causes this 'bootloader mangling' we've observed.

Thanks for your warnings. I just checked my device information. It reads rom version 3;14.06 ENG, Rom date 10/01/02, Radio Version T313. Being not technical at all. Your advice is not to upgrade the Rom or de radio version.
But that leaves me with some problems. F.i. when I try to synchronize with Outlook on my pc. I keep losing mails. The only mails being synchronized at all are those from my inbox. A series of attachments cannot be converted and there is no way to know which mails they are in. I was also hoping that a rom-update would solve my constant memory-lack.
Are there any other solutions?

Upgrade Fails
We have been upgrading some ATEK's with success, but we have two that don't want to upgrade. The message is:
"Can not open COM/USB port...." \\Can someine help...

Re: Upgrade Fails
scalci said:
We have been upgrading some ATEK's with success, but we have two that don't want to upgrade. The message is:
"Can not open COM/USB port...." \\Can someine help...
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:wink: it's same problem that i have but the slution is download the XDA-dev's XDAtools.exe and cook your ROM then save it on your SD-card
for me it's work 100% my Qtek provieder in Saudi Arbia said that you can't downgread ROM after you do upgread but what ?? it's work
:lol:
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Upgrade radio fail
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.

After upgrad radio from 4.16 to 4.21, My O2 does not reset or hardreset normally. After a long process, I get a blank screen with only input icon on the lowwer right corner. How to fix it now?

problem solved.

inaccess said:
problem solved.
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How have you done it ?

Re: Upgrade radio fail
pcloo said:
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.
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I did the exact same thing and had the same problem. anything I could do to had my xda up and running again?
thanx in advance

Re: Upgrade radio fail
darkdragoon said:
pcloo said:
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.
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I did the exact same thing and had the same problem. anything I could do to had my xda up and running again?
thanx in advance
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If you push the power buttom and than do a hard/cold reset do you get a bootloader ???
If so you need a storage card and put a good rom on it.
Read more on this forum

Re: Upgrade radio fail
I got a problem yesterday night, while trying to updgrade the ROM with the XDA developers Special Edition ROM v1.2, I got the message from the tool saying it will take up to 5 min and a scroll bar appeared on the XDA and not removing it from its base.
But I accidently removed it (in fact, I caught my foot on the damn wire and everything went to the floor).
Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
The screen when I hard-reset it shows the scrollbar that was displayed when I tried to upgrade it.
ActiveSync does not recognize it anymore (PC beeps when the XDA is put in craddle, but it does go further).
Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
I own a SX-56 and subscribe to Rogers AT&T; I guess my config is identical to a AT&T phone, as it's written on top
Any suggestion will be welcomed
Bernard

Re: Upgrade radio fail
droletbe said:
I got a problem yesterday night, while trying to updgrade the ROM with the XDA developers Special Edition ROM v1.2, I got the message from the tool saying it will take up to 5 min and a scroll bar appeared on the XDA and not removing it from its base.
But I accidently removed it (in fact, I caught my foot on the damn wire and everything went to the floor).
Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
The screen when I hard-reset it shows the scrollbar that was displayed when I tried to upgrade it.
ActiveSync does not recognize it anymore (PC beeps when the XDA is put in craddle, but it does go further).
Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
I own a SX-56 and subscribe to Rogers AT&T; I guess my config is identical to a AT&T phone, as it's written on top
Any suggestion will be welcomed
Bernard
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You need a storage card (32 MB or more SD or MMC will do) and a reader/writer for it,
than write a rom on the card, put it in your devices an start the boot loader, than if everthing went good it will ask you if you wanted to update the rom.

Re: Upgrade radio fail
Weezer-DC said:
darkdragoon said:
pcloo said:
Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I read it a bit too late.
I download ROM from O2 site, program A (3.20.06ENG) and program B(4.21). Upgarded my xda with program A, after reset it works. When upgrade the radio program B it hang for half hour. After reset the xda does not boot!
Is there a way i can flash back the ROM so that i can use back my xda?
Original version ROM 3.17.03ENG and radio 3.14.
Thanks in advance.
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I did the exact same thing and had the same problem. anything I could do to had my xda up and running again?
thanx in advance
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If you push the power buttom and than do a hard/cold reset do you get a bootloader ???
If so you need a storage card and put a good rom on it.
Read more on this forum
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Yes, I got the Wallaby bootloader and it said GSM failed.
Pls show me where about I could get more info on the forum.
ThanX in advance.

Re: Upgrade radio fail
Weezer-DC said:
droletbe said:
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Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
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Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
...
Any suggestion will be welcomed
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You need a storage card (32 MB or more SD or MMC will do) and a reader/writer for it,
than write a rom on the card, put it in your devices an start the boot loader, than if everthing went good it will ask you if you wanted to update the rom.
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Any place/URL to look for such thing as the ROM and the writer ? How much should I expect ?
Thanks for your help

Re: Upgrade radio fail
droletbe said:
Weezer-DC said:
droletbe said:
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Now nothing works, except the diagnostic bootloader when I reset and press on button. Hard reset changes noting.
...
Any idea how to put back original ROM content ? I have backup of the content made with Active Sync.
...
Any suggestion will be welcomed
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You need a storage card (32 MB or more SD or MMC will do) and a reader/writer for it,
than write a rom on the card, put it in your devices an start the boot loader, than if everthing went good it will ask you if you wanted to update the rom.
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Any place/URL to look for such thing as the ROM and the writer ? How much should I expect ?
Thanks for your help
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Now everything works ! And this accident "forced" me to buy an SD, so I will not be so limited by the 32Mb limit
Thank you very much

help needed....
i hard reseted my qtek 1010 .... its like 30mins ....and am still gettin 4 bands white red greem blue... is that normal ...that hard reset take this much time... if this si not normal ... what should i do next

Bootloader not recognising sd card image
I am having the same problem. When pressing power and reset, bootloader shows v 5.17 GSM fail.
I have an sd card which has a new bootloader and nb1 file on it. I do a reset with the card in the slot and i get the same screen v517 GSM fail. From what i have read i should be getting an option to upload the new rom.
Can some one help me out please?
If I currently turn the device on normally activesync does not recognise the device.....
The sd card I have was configured using the xdirt programme and it appears to have worked as the sd card is shows not formatted now...

Thanks for all the info and warnings, just got my XDA II today and Im not too hot with it yet so I guess I will be leaving the ROM's alone for the time being

Peter Poelman said:
Radio Stack Upgrades:
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We have several system where the GSM rom is toast. Is there a way to get a GSM Rom to SD w/o using the PC Monitor program?
The systems will successfully bootup and we have tried loading the GSM rom using RSUpgrade, but it fails after 1%.
Is there any other way to recover the GSM Rom?

You may try speaking to Cgigate on this forum, he has hardware methods of programming the chips directly, whether it works for the radio stack as well as the bootloader and rom you will need to ask him.

WM2005 boot Splash Screen

Hello Guys,
I tried about everything, but i cannot get the windows 2005 splashscreens installed. I tried the file from buzz, the one in the "all download links" topic, and even the old cab file. Do i need to do a hard reset to get it done? I have the feeling i am missing something here...
i did it ones before when i had 2003, and therefore i now have windows 200SE splashscreens, very nice, but i prefer the 2005 ones now. Because i am running 2005
Thankx in advance!
P.S : thankx for all the great work on 2005, i am running on that OS now, and it is perfect!

I am stuck with the same problem

Hello,
I had the same problem.
I downgrade my Qtek2020 with win2003SE with a customized extended rom (2005 bootscreen).
And i re-upgrade it with win2005.
Now i have a nice boot screen and the most important, now the cab for changing bootscreen are working... Just need a soft reset to see the screen.
It's radical method, but it work.... and take time (more than 1h)
Bye
Garou-69

hi garou,
So there is a way to solve this problem. I hope there is a more
less dramatic way to get this problem solved
perhaps someone can look into this?
Greetz,
braindump

Read here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=117057#117057

Hello James.
Thankx for your post!
greetz,
Braindump

hi,
try to unlock and unhid the extROM.
reboot and then install the bootsplash cab.
reboot again...
buzz

hello buzz,
thankx for the advice, i just did that, and it works like a charm.
don't you just love that himalaya device. best piece of hardware i ever bought!!
greetz,
braindump

...that makes me really glad... ;o)))
buzz

buzz_lightyear said:
hi,
try to unlock and unhid the extROM.
reboot and then install the bootsplash cab.
reboot again...
buzz
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hi.
how about Wm5Themes. I installed it and nothing happens. Help pleazzz!
Thanks

How about us under 1.60c.00WWE with PS and 30.53 Storage 120.32 Program memory configuration?
There is no Extended_ROM partition... :?
EDIT:
Never mind... I ran the Extended ROM unlocker anyways and even though it does not show the Extended partition it allows the bootscreens to install just fine.
Regards,
Rayan

Lost rom SD card backup file-How to original downloaded rom?

I have lost the SD card backup before appling the 27 MB anakasy/MKS patch.
I tired to flash using the original clubimate downloaded 1.11 but after the same my STORAGE folder is missing.
Please help to slove this issue...

This is weird. I have twice done the Anansky and then installed another normal ROM on top of it, with no probles whatsoever. Maybe it's the I-mate ROM you are installing that's bad? Have you tried another ROM?

I have tried JAM 1.06 ROM and O2 1.11 ROM but no way get it work. Still same issue with storage.
One thing I noticed that before this issue I can flash the ROM after diabled the activesync and phone is normal mode. Now after this issue I have to switch the phone to boot loader for normal downloaded ROMs to start flashing.
Please help.....

Re: Lost rom SD card backup file-How to original downloaded
nishadks said:
I tired to flash using the original clubimate downloaded 1.11 but after the same my STORAGE folder is missing.
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It sounds like you're only flashing the radio+ce. Can you verify that there's a file called ms_.nbf in folder you're updating from?

Yes it contain all the three files ms_.nbf, nk.nbf and radio_.nbf...

I don't think you even should get to a point, where you can see which files are included in the installer. Just download the right ROM for your Magician and run it. Too often we see ppl having problem running a hacked upgrade and instead of just reverting to the original thing, they try to hack some more! Well, not all hacks works...
Other than that, I see 3 options as it is right now...
1. Redo the whole thing! Try to flash the Anansky and see if you can get that going. If you can, try running the normal ROM update afterwards. If it doesn't work...
2. You can ask for a kind soul with the exact same original branding as yours (I-mate, Qtek or whatever and same country) to upload a backup of his ROM. Overwrite the first 416 bytes from your own ROM and try to install this new ROM. If that doesn't work either...
3. Get the ROM flashed in a service centre.

Well.. You have something like ten active threads about this flying all over the net, yet when someone takes the time to try help you, you don't reply. You just move on to the next thread. If you don't take those trying to help you seriously, then I for one won't waste any more time on this...

I have solved my JAM's problem. Backed-up my friend's JAM ROM and restored in my JAM. Now everything working fine. Thanks a lot for all help...

T-Mobile Wing Flashing

Hello everyone. I'm new to the website and I'm very interested in flashing my T-Mobile Wing. I just have a quick question for you guys. Is there anyway to go back to factory default, pretty much put in back to its original out of the box state if i flash the phone? Also, will i still be able to use the My Faves or does that have nothing to do with this? Thanks for all the help and i look forward to learning more about this.
Gigabit

Yes. You can download a T-Mobile Wing OEM RUU (search the forums for it) to get back to normal.
My Faves doesn't need the MyFaves app. I used MyFaves for about a year on my non-MyFaves Moto PEBL before getting the Wing. I just use Touch-IT 4.4 with the HTCHome plugin and just assign my myfaves numbers to the first 5 slots so 'simulate' the ease. I've always thought the MyFaves app was rather buggy, but there's a CAB floating around that you can install if you still want it. I just change my contacts via mytmobile online.
It's not too hard as long as you follow all the directions. Read them twice through if you have to.

thanks for the quick response. I just have one other question at this point. i've been look all over the place and cant seem to find what the newest version of Touch-It is. Can you please post a link to the newest version when every you have some time. I can't wait to get started.
Thanks!
Gig

These are the newest versions of Touch-IT.
NEW - Touch-IT v6.1.3 - Clean (updated with UC)
Touch-IT wm6.1 19199.1.0.0 - Full
Touch-IT wm6.1 19199.1.0.0 - ITsBlack
Touch-IT v4.4 and 4.41 WWE P4350
There was a small problem with the wm6.1 versions where the MMS wasn't working correctly, and I'm not sure if that has been fixed... but ITJE's roms are awesome and you can't go wrong with them.
You'll need to install my keyboard fix
KEYBOARD FIX for WING / HERALD & ROM hardware keyboard (keybddr.dll) mismatch

First off, Thank you so much for the fast responsces. Second, after a nice LONG day at the hospital with my daughter i sat down to start the flashing process. As i started reading some of the directions i saw something mentioned about Hard-SPL. My question to you guys is this: once i download the Touch version that i want, is that all i need? or do i need to look more into this and find Hard-SPL. please let me know whenever you have some time.
Thank You,
Gig

All you need to do is follow this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
HARDSPL is basically just flashing a rom.. so once youre done with it, all you have to do is install the Rom you want.

ok so, when i run Hard-SPL it starts to do its thing but stops at 4% and comes up with Update Error "Error 270". I've tried re-downloading the Hard-SPL file and uninstalled/reinstalled ActiveSync. I also installed all the .cab files in this order: canonyang, disablesecurity, asergpolicy, followed by a softrest. any ideas what the problem might be. Please let me know when you have some time. Thanks for all the help guys.
Gig

Try restoring back to the default ROM that comes from the factory by downloading it from the first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321717
After that then try flashing with hard-spl and then to the new TouchIt.
By the way I recommend
Touch-IT wm6.1 19199.1.0.0 - Full
I have a T-mobile wing and that one works best for me. (of course you will have to run the keyboard fix cab and x-box cab as indicated in the previous posts after installing Touch-IT wm6)

i have yet to flash any ROM to the wing. it is still factory default. Should i still try to reinstall the new ROM using the link you provided? Thanks for all your help.
edit: after backing up all my crap i reinstalled the ROM using the RUU from the above post and everything went OK but I'm still getting the same Error when i try to run the Hard-SPL while in the bootloader screen i get "Error 270" at about the 2% mark. if i try to run the Hard-SPL while not in the bootloader screen i get "Error 202". please let me know if you have any other advice to get past this small issue.
Thanks,
Gig

gigabit3 said:
i have yet to flash any ROM to the wing. it is still factory default. Should i still try to reinstall the new ROM using the link you provided? Thanks for all your help.
edit: after backing up all my crap i reinstalled the ROM using the RUU from the above post and everything went OK but I'm still getting the same Error when i try to run the Hard-SPL while in the bootloader screen i get "Error 270" at about the 2% mark. if i try to run the Hard-SPL while not in the bootloader screen i get "Error 202". please let me know if you have any other advice to get past this small issue.
Thanks,
Gig
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Are you sure you ran the 3 cab files first (inside of the Wing with your stylus) and then did the softreset on your Wing (by pressing the little button on the side of your wing with the tip of your stylus) prior to running the ROM exe file (on your large desktop PC)?
The 3 cabs should be run in the order that is given.

yes, after i installed the 3 .cab files i did a soft reset. I held the camera button and pushed in the reset button with the stylus. then once i was in the screen with the different colors i ran Hard-SPL from my desktop computer.
edit:
after reading what i was typing i tried it again and it worked. just call me stupid. SOFT REST! those two words will hunt me forever. Thanks for all your help. not its time to start blowing crap up. lol
Thanks a bunch
Gig

If I remember the instructions, you're supposed to run the hardspl when the phone is running WM.... so basically, install the 3 cabs, reset, wait for it to reach your today screen... connect to activesync, then run hardspl.

that is correct sir. Thats how i was reading it but then doing it a different way. i dunno what i was thinking. Thank you so much for all your help. i have successfully installed Hard-SPL and Touch 4.4 full. I also over clocked from 201 to 247 with no issues. Applied your keyboard fix and the mms fix along with the Internet fix. all is working perfect. thanks again for all the help. i'll definitely will be browsing the sit more to see what else i can learn.
Thanks,
Gig

Hard Reset

I made an upgrade to wm6.1 from wm2003 and always is gone right, installed manilla and other soft and all works well! Now I tried sun dream 6.5 rom and after the upgrade (I made an hard reset, power+reset!) the old programs installed previously are always there! I tried many times hard resets but my blue Angel start to freeze! I made a downgrade to wm6.1, now it works, but all the olds programs are always there! The system is instable, very slow. What can I do? It seems I made same error but what?
Any help is appreciate... TIA

Looks like you are flashing the 6.5 ROM without formatting the storage.
Have you tried this when you did the hard reset:
1. You'll see three options on screen. You must change the second and the third to yes. If you are not developing/testing software you can disable the first debug option for better performance.(“Enable KITL” must be NO, “Clean Registry Hive” must be YES, “Format Storage” must be YES)
2. Press the "Mail" button. A white screen will show for 30 seconds, while it is clearing your device in preparation for the new ROM to start executing
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source:
taken from the wiki
Hope this helps.

descryption with pictures
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_WM5_For_Beginners

allanon said:
I made an upgrade to wm6.1 from wm2003 and always is gone right, installed manilla and other soft and all works well! Now I tried sun dream 6.5 rom and after the upgrade (I made an hard reset, power+reset!) the old programs installed previously are always there! I tried many times hard resets but my blue Angel start to freeze! I made a downgrade to wm6.1, now it works, but all the olds programs are always there! The system is instable, very slow. What can I do? It seems I made same error but what?
Any help is appreciate... TIA
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Please read the wiki and search before you attempt to do something. Instructions are a wonderful thing... they keep us from failing where others have failed in the past.
Also (and since we are on the subject), please read the forum rules
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488533
Thanks..

Thank you all guys! The problem was that my son upgraded the device from WM2003 to WM6.1 so i didn't know the new bootloader was installed!
anyway now it's all ok! thanks again