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Hi Everybody,
First of all I would like to extend my ultimate gratefulness to all the people who are maintaining this wonderful forum. I had solved many a problems of my O2 Mini from many of the threads in the forum. I had registered to this forum some time back but till date never had put up a post as I am not a developer (just consider myself as an advance user) to contribute anything worthwhile and everything I need to know is always somewhere here. Anyway thanks a lot again to all you guys.
Now I have a problem which I haven't been able to find the solution for. I have a O2 XDA Mini (HTC Magician as per this forum), upgraded with big storage O2 ROM 1.12 / 1.12 from this forum, 512 MB SD and loaded with a variety of softwares as per my requirements from time to time. I had been using the phone perfectly for some time after the ROM upgrade but the problem right now is that I am not able to hear any sound during incoming / outgoing calls. The SMS works well. At other times, the sound works normally for all other uses. I had also installed the BT s/w for both bluesoleil as well as widcomm found here.
I would be very grateful to anybody can give me the solution to the problem and any links where the solutions to the problems are given. Thanx a lot again.
Regards,
Gyan
If the problem happened after installing other BT drivers, then try uninstalling them.
Hi Zerimar,
Thanx for the suggestion but it still doesn't work. I have even done a hard reset. Do I need to change the ROM.
Regards,
Gyan
You mentioned everything worked fine for a while after the ROM upgrade, before you started having the problem ... so I don't think it's the ROM upgrade. Was there a particular app you install prior to the problem that could've caused it? It's very rare the phone will lose incoming/ outgoing sound. It almost sounds like a H/W problem more than a S/W problem.
I recall one instance and that's with respect to the A2DP hack. It happened to a few users including myself.
I forgot to mention that the sound is working fine with earphones.
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I forgot to mention that the sound is working fine with earphones.
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Defn sounds like a hardware problem them. Have you ever dropped the phone?
Hi all,
Please go easy on me here, as I have some probably pretty basic questions. I have been digging around the internet (mostly these forums) for the past two days since I got my new Mogul from Sprint running WM6. I had the PPC-6700 prior to this (as I expect most of you had) and I was fairly good at tinkering on that one, but I'm on new ground here with WM6 and a new phone.
First, I am a little confused by all the names.
For sure, I know that this phone can be called the Titan, the Mogul, or the PPC-6800. What I'm not sure of is that some people also call this the Hermes or the TyTn. I figured Titan and TyTn were the same things, but apparently not.
The main reason I'm asking is so that when I am looking for information and posts on this phone, which can I use and which should I disregard. It seems that many of the things posted under the Hermes forum are valid for the Mogul as well, but alas..I'm confused.
Once we get names settled, I'm going to start with only one other question that I have dire need for. I have looked around for answers and most are many months old, so I have to think that there are some more recent findings. My question regards Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 with a BT headset on this phone.
I have installed MS VC 1.6 and paired my new Cardo Scala 800 headset. It seems to work with the following problems:
1) BT quality is not great, including VC voice getting cut off. This is my first BT headset with this phone, and I have read that many people have poor BT quality with this phone. If that's the case, can anyone recommend a BT headset that works well with this phone (preferablly one that charges directly via mini-USB).
2) Confirmation don't work - based on what I have read this is a problem with all WM6 phones with VC 1.6. It appears the only solution is to disable confirmations completely. I have done this and it appears to be able to function. I just want to confirm that there isn't any newer data out there for this issue.
3) Last issue is that I don't get notifications. Meaning, when an incoming call comes in I get the ringing sound, but it doesn't tell me the name. In my searches I came across this posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881&page=51
It is for the Hermes (again..confused) but contains a zip file with 4 files to copy over the default VC files. When I did this and reset my phone, notifications seem to work. I want to make sure that this is the best way to get VC 1.6 working as fully as possible on this phone.
I really appreciate any feedback you can give.... I have a few more questions, but I'll wait till we get these squared away.
Thanks to all!
Well, I've not been a Mogul owner for much longer than you, and certainly have been a PPC owner less (this is my first PPC), however let me try to answer a few of your questions.
First, the "Sprint Mogul" is Sprint's name for this phone. The phone "codename" of sorts is the Titan, and model is the PPC-6800. Hopefully I got that all right. Bottom line, they all refer to the same phone. Also, different cell companies have different names for phones, so it can get a little confusing sometimes.
Now the TyTN is the same device as the Hermes, aka the 8525. From what I've gathered in my short experience, this is basically the same same phone as the Titan, however, it's the AT&T GSM version. Where we have CDMA and EVDO, it has GSM and HSDPA.
The files get tricky too, and you have to know your way around the system before you try replacing files from other phones. A lot of files (and issues) are general for WM6. That means that any device running WM6 may have these same files, behaviors, or issues. However, with that said, certain files are specific to the network. Some of the things like dialers are coded for GSM on one phone, and CDMA on another. So if you think it might have anything to do with the network, double check before you replace it from another phone that's on a different network. In your case, the voice command thing is general to WM6, so grabbing the files from the Hermes was ok.
The bluetooth? Well, that's a question a lot of us still have. The bluetooth on these phones suck. I've heard a lot of people say it's HTC's fault, and I've also heard a few people say WM6 just isn't good with BT anyway. I personally haven't gotten into what's wrong with it much yet, so I can't tell you exactly the issues, but we can only hope for a firmware and/or software update in the future that will help these problems.
I know that if you look around, I've seen lists where people have listed which BT headsets seem to work well, and which don't. The only I have, and thus have tested, is a Jawbone, and I can report, as well as tell you from reading, it's one of the better BT headsets for this phone. It's a little expensive though, so it's not in everyone's price range. Unfortunately I can't help much past that since I've never used any other, but if you search you can probably find threads like I mentioned and just get feedback from other people.
Also, I've never played with Voice Command, so I can't answer any more specific questions on that subject. Hopefully I helped clear a few things up. As I said, I'm definitely still learning myself, but I've been taking in all kinds of information. I love this phone and don't see how I've survived without a PocketPC before.
Ajerman,
Thanks for your input. Ok that makes sense regarding the AT&T GSM version. I think most of what I will want to tweak will be related to WM6 and not carriers.
Unfortunately my Cardo 800 BT headset is my first headset too, and this is the first time I'm using it with the phone. So, I too don't have anything to gauge it against. I'm probably going to return the headset however as it was advertised as having a mini-usb charging jack, when infact it has a micro-usb. I saw the jawbone, looks nice, but again, I only want a headset that uses a mini-usb jack (too many adapters to carry around).
My next questions (hopefully someone can address), is unlocking the Extended ROM for customization. I did this on the PPC-6700 WM5 with an Extended rom unlocker tool and modified the config.txt in there to automatically install certain apps upon hard-reset.
I need to assist the mobile admins at my company with setting everyone's phone up with some additional settings en masse.
Is it safe to use the same procedures on WM6? I'm probably going to try it anyway but thought someone could point me to a good primer on upgrading my skills from WM5 to WM6.
Any more input is valued!
thanks
I am very sorry in advance if this issue has been raised elsewhere on the site, but after spending quite some time searching for an answer by both the forum search and google search, I am going round in circles and haven't found a solution.
I have a UK Tmobile Vario 2 (Hermes) running its original Rom (I have been too scared to flash it in case I break the phone as I don't really know what I am doing) and I have a Motorola S705 A2DP headset. I love the feature on VC 1.6 which reads out new text messages in full but can't find any way of routing the audio for this feature through my bt headset. The incoming call notification works through the headset but every time an SMS comes through it pauses A2DP, reads it via the phones loudspeaker, then diverts sound back to the headset again?!?
I went on the WIKI and found the Voice Command section. I tried installing the patch/program it suggests and did the tweaks it said to the registry , but it didn't make any difference on this problem.
I just wondered if this is an unfixable problem, or if there is anything I can do to get it working because this feature would be incredibly useful to me (I ride a motorbike and to get texts read through my headset when riding would be excellent).
Thanks in advance for any help guys. Sorry again if I am raising a known issue, if I am, if you could point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
have you tried this? i know this .cab file worked on my jawbone but i dont/have not used VC 1.6.
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have you tried this? i know this .cab file worked on my jawbone but i dont/have not used VC 1.6.
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Thanks Bapski, I have just installed it but unfortunately it hasn't helped thank you anyway though, it was definitely worth a try
Well, I have had a good read through the threads on Voice Command and all the fixes for the headset button but it seems nothing yet solves the problem of routing the SMS notification through the headset which is a shame, it would have been so useful.
Well, hopefully, when I get my nice new Kaiser upgrade (whenever that may be ) .. I will have more luck with the bluetooth audio
Don't buy a phone with a MS BT stack because they will never fix the problem..MS has known about this for so long its just sad..The next phone I get will have a widcomm bt stack.
Yeh, got to say that the bluetooth hasn't been particularly great ... especially when trying to get it working on A2DP.
If only I hadn't stumbled across VC 1.6 I would be none the wiser and wouldn't even know it is possible to have SMS messages read out oh well
it doesnt work dont even bother, I loved it on my wizard, but there is a hardware problem with the heremes or whatever the problem is the last revision of the BT stack doesnt fix it and its never worked. all the patches and fixes only work for awhile then just stop and rquire a cryptic series of hacks to make them half work again. your better off buying a thai slave to read your messages to you.
I hope someone is able to help me.
Okay I have the Wizard, upgraded to Wizard Mobile 6.
Shortly after, all my bluetooth devices (car kit, headset...) had their microphones die. In other words nobody could hear me when speaking through any kind of bluetooth.
I then flashed the Radio ROM to a different version, and bluetooth was repaired. But now the problem has returned for no reason.
Why does my Wizard's bluetooth audio in keep failing, yet its speaker works fine and I can hear other people?
Is there a recommended update to the Bluetooth Stack I can try?
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I hope someone is able to help me.
Okay I have the Wizard, upgraded to Wizard Mobile 6.
Shortly after, all my bluetooth devices (car kit, headset...) had their microphones die. In other words nobody could hear me when speaking through any kind of bluetooth.
I then flashed the Radio ROM to a different version, and bluetooth was repaired. But now the problem has returned for no reason.
Why does my Wizard's bluetooth audio in keep failing, yet its output works fine and I can hear other people?
Is there a recommended update to the Bluetooth Stack I can try?
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I do have exactly the same problem. After flashing XDA Mobile 6 Release 3, microphone has worked for couple of days, and then suddenly died. Interesting, microphone is working with Notes but not with phone. I went back to
XDA Mobile 6 Release 2 for some other reasons (read: 2MB more free memory for critical application) but the problem with Bluetooth microphone remains. Radio is 2.25. Any advice?
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There are also at least 3 people at the Wizard Mobile 6 thread with the same issue. Very surprised none of the experts here have been able to propose a fix. Makes the phone virtually worthless if you can't use it in the car etc.
As a workaround, I have found if you mute then unmute the phone volume, the issue is sometimes temporarily resolved for a short time. It always comes back though
I have been asked to join this thread. Per a PM:
We love the ROM you have provided, and are very thankful, however it was not until installing it that this issue arose. It does not seem fair to leave a number of people with a phone that is unusable for 'phone calls'.
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I don't know what to tell you. If the rom doesn't work for you, then don't use it... Don't tell me its "not fair". I use MS Voice Command, and XM6r3 and have never seen this issue with my Bluetooth headset (Jawbone). I've also tested this out with a Plantronics Explorer 210 headset that I have and it has not problems with XM6r3 either. My A2DP headset (Spider) also works fine on XM6r3 with MS VC. I've stated this in the past when people have said they have BT issues on my rom. Sorry, but I can't reproduce it, so its hard for me to fix something that isn't broken for me.
Try this... Do a hardreset on your device (take a backup first if you want), then leave it as the base rom with NOTHING extra added. Run that way for a few days (how ever long it has taken before) and see if the problem happens again. If it doesn't then its not my rom but something being added to it (probably screwing with the registry someplace). If it does happen, then as I've stated before, I've seen a number of BT devices be flakey on WM6 (especially car kits). Try a different rom then. If someone with the problem can pin it down, I'll be happy to do what it takes to fix this issue if its something in the rom that is causing it.
Thanks mfrazz. What wasn't fair was not the bug, but that you had not responded to previous mentions of it, i.e. not fair to leave us with it. We love the ROM and put a lot of our life in your hands in a way, as we rely on our device so much for work and play. Hope you understand.
Now then, I have already tried a hard reset and the problem never occurs, until WM6 is put back on. Sure, 'use another ROM' is all very well, but we love yours - again, hope you appreciate the sentiment. If you're in a relationship, are you the kind of guy who tells a girl who loves you, 'find another boyfriend', or do you try to make it work
SO, I am wondering if this is related to the glitch you mention where sometimes when switching out of vibrate mode, the ring tone becomes muted. For that, your solution is to play the ringtone again, then it becomes unmuted.
Similarly, our Bluetooth devices mic's are being muted, and if we mute then unmute them again, then they become unmuted. A link that helps point you in the right direction?
Please note, this is not certain bluetooth devices being 'flaky', this is ALL devices. 4 at the latest count, including rock solid Nokia CARK7W car kits and Jabra headsets.
Some people put it down to MS Voice Command, which I have never installed. What does that program do, do you know, to cause the bug? Again I hope that might help point you in the right direction.
Please don't dump us Let's try to fix what is wrong in this relationship
BT problem solved?
CJSnet - not sure if you have resolved this. I was having the same problem and noticed people with reTouched dialer were not, so I loaded that dialer and the problems went away. I am using a Plantronics Voyager 510. Seems the problem might be with the standard dialer.
Hope this helps
CJSnet said:
There are also at least 3 people at the Wizard Mobile 6 thread with the same issue. Very surprised none of the experts here have been able to propose a fix. Makes the phone virtually worthless if you can't use it in the car etc.
As a workaround, I have found if you mute then unmute the phone volume, the issue is temporarily resolved for a short time. It always comes back though
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. However WM6 has pretty much finished the Wizard for me, and I'm hoping to get a TyTN II soon as a replacement. Shame.
I am in the process of moving from a TP to a TP2, and am configuring the latter, however (and I have seen this problem elsewhere regarding this phone) I cannot get my bluetooth headset to play nice with MSVC. Specifically the button to initiate the call.
I have tried the steps listed by bengalih and all should work. From what I have read, they are using a different bluetooth stack for the TP2 which is the issue.
So I have a few questions.
1. Has anyone got the headset button to activate MSVC successfully?
2. Is there a way to change the bluetooth stack without changing the ROM
3. will changing the ROM fix this? Any way I can tell which ROMS will have a working bluetooth stack?
I have Vodafone UK branded model.
This is I think the last thing that I need to make the phone 'functional' for my daily use, and so would be really grateful for any advice.
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1. Has anyone got the headset button to activate MSVC successfully?
2. Is there a way to change the bluetooth stack without changing the ROM
3. will changing the ROM fix this? Any way I can tell which ROMS will have a working bluetooth stack?
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1. Yes, with certain headsets that will allow a verrry loooong press without turning off.
2. I suppose it's theoretically possible, but I do not know for sure.
3. Yes. Some of the cooked roms work fine with MSVC and bluetooth headsets on the TP2.
Could you give examples of the cooked roms that work?
Cheers
C.
any trick or hack we can borrow from "bt-MSVCworking roms" and transplant in stock roms? maybe a skilled dev might try to do something.... PLEASE guys!
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Could you give examples of the cooked roms that work?
Cheers
C.
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NRGs Genesis ROM works for me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
Gordon
Flashing now and will confirm experience with my two headsets shortly.
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Only had time to test the specific problem identified at the start - both headsets work fine now. Hurrah. I do not know the specifics behind why, or if this will apply to all 6.5 based roms. But for anyone desperately seeking a resolution the headset initiation of MSVC, using the ROM above does fix it. And so far the NRG ROM does seem good.
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Could you give examples of the cooked roms that work?
Cheers
C.
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I currently use EnergyROM version 20090822 (Titanium) with MSVC 1.6.21040.
Thanks to those above for their help.
thank you for the contribution, but for who is keeping stock rom, any possible solution??? I would sell my soul for this...
A "stand alone solution" for Touch Pro2s with an original ROM would be great. Possibly one of the ROM cookers can extract it for us.
Thanks a lot in advance,
Klaus
that would be really appreciated!!!
Got it to work, but...........
Hi I have a TP2 with MSVC installed. I got it to work by editing the regsitry and swapping SDDialer.exe with voicecmd.exe. It works great. I press the button on my bluetooth headset and MSVC is invoked.
The only problem is that the voice commaned that i say has to go through the TP2 microphone not the bluetooth headset microphone. Any one knows how to direct the audio input to the headset microphone???
I am using Miri cooked ROM 23017 with manila v2.5
rgd
Raed
this bluetooth activation is a real bugger!! does the audio from VC go to the device loudspeaker, or BT headset? that would be a beginning, somehow...
any luck with cyberon voice commander yet?
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this bluetooth activation is a real bugger!! ...
any luck with cyberon voice commander yet?
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Well I have the Voda version of the TP2 and I also have a spare to play with (I cracked the screen on my first one and got a new one but they never asked for the old one back - it works fine) so I loaded the EnergyROM from a link elsewhere on this thread on to it. My bluetooth headset does not work with the Cyberon Voice speed dial program which I prefer - although this ROM does alow you to put all sounds through the headset. It worked fine on my old TyTn from Voda. Like you said, this is a real bu**er!
Barry
mmmh I'm becoming more and more obsessed with this. I googled everywhere but found anything... someone reports msvc and cvc as working, someone else not.. but nobody says it's working from BT headset... blame on htc that forgot such an important thing!
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mmmh I'm becoming more and more obsessed with this. I googled everywhere but found anything... someone reports msvc and cvc as working, someone else not.. but nobody says it's working from BT headset... blame on htc that forgot such an important thing!
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It's all true
I understand that on the Telus ROM MSVC works with Bluetooth out the box
MSVC and CVC do work, UNLESS you want to use Bluetooth, when they don't (with stock ROMS in the EU) ;-)
I'm using MSVC on NRGs Genesis ROM and it works from Bluetooth as it should. If I get a Chance I'll install CVC and give it a try and report back.
Gordon
it would be nice if someone can mange to transplant needed files... I like the bluetooth stack on TP2, really better than usual, but this thing needs more attention from HTC and the 3rd party developers.
msvc is 3 years old as of now, no newer versions, same as cvc... too bad, technology evolved a lot it 3 years, and these programs might improve really really much!! especially the recognition algorythm, and functions.
well, I hope the new wm6.5 will bring some BT improvements for TP2 then...do not want to stick with custom roms yet. keeping my fingers crossed!
should you manage to try, let us know about cvc and make a little comparison for us! you lucky! ;-)
cheers
I´m usign Smaberg´s Touch X "HERO" EDITION and VC works just fine.
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I'm using MSVC on NRGs Genesis ROM and it works from Bluetooth as it should. If I get a Chance I'll install CVC and give it a try and report back.
Gordon
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As my touch screen has died I am without a TP2, so I can't do this for the moment
Gordon
I've had this problem sometimes on my VZW CDMA Touch Pro 2. my solution has been to turn off the headset and turn it back on. It seems the problem starts for me when I have the headset on when rebooting the phone. Possibly MSVC doesn't detect the presence of the headset or something to that effect.