In playing around with the Today screen background/wallpaper images, I have noticed that the Athena screen pixel count is actually larger than a true VGA screen.
The photos below show the screen on QVGA resolution with a background image sized on my pc to 640x480 pixels:
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Now here is the same image running under RealVGA mode:
Note that since Real VGA is running, the Start and Calendar/Contacts bars on the top and bottom of the screen are thinner, and as a result, the background image tiles (starts over) on the bottom.
So the question is, what is the true pixel count of the Athena screen???
The image does not seem to tile horizontally, so I believe the width to be 640 pixels or less(?), but the height is definitely greater than 480 pixels.
Keith Walker
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Another way to re-phrase the question, is there a way to find out how tall the Start bar at the top of the screen is in the registry?
Same goes for bottom of screen bar (Calendar/Contacts)
Thanks
Keith
theoreticly you could try to take a screenshot and measure the pixels?
It's not the pixels
rather, it's the image. WM cuts off and/or shrinks background images before using them as the theme.
In Standard QVGA orientation, the top Start Bar may be 26 Pixels. I have the Batti-2.1 bar in the top of my screen that lets you set the number of pixels height for the battery bar. The square Start button is set to 26x26. If I set the battery bar height to 26, it covers the start bar completely. I haven't loaded Real VGA with this ROM yet but could do so for a test if you are interested.
Thanks for the information.
I also got some answers on the newest Real VGA thread. FWIW, Tobias has the newest version and it is quite mature and it is worth a download:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327830
To sum up menu bar heights:
QVGA/192dpi : 52 pixels ht.
128 dpi: 34 pixels ht.
VGA/96dpi : 26 pixels ht.
(I don't know if those registry values are total height of both bars, or only one bar)
In registry:
You can find it in: HKLM\ControlPanel\SIP\MenuBarHeight WM5(?)
WM6: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SIP\MenuBarHeight
And finally fwiw, I checked, the screenshots that I have in Corel Draw, and Merlin is correct, the image is actually compressed vertically assuming that you have 52 pixel ht. menu bars.
So if you have VGA 640x480 background and run Real VGA on the 96dpi setting, it squeezes the background to make space for the 52 pixel menu bars, but since your menu bars are only 26 pixels, it then tiles the image to make up for lost real estate!
Now if I could only find that shrinking feature in the registry and tame it!!!
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I haven't loaded Real VGA with this ROM yet but could do so for a test if you are interested.
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Can the camera only take photos in portrait view, as opposed to the landscape style offered by pretty much EVERY camera in the world?
What should the dimensions be for pics used on contacts (the ones that come up when they phone you)?
What should the dimensions be for Today screen wallpaper, to make it fit exact?
Cheers again
Can the camera only take photos in portrait view, as opposed to the landscape style offered by pretty much EVERY camera in the world?
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well if you tilt the cam 90degrees and click the picture will be in landscape
and the screen res of xda2 is
176 x 220
I found how to get landscape, in the instruction book of all places :lol: . You press the "contacts" hardware button at the top left of the unit then turn it side ways. If you just turn it side ways it will still save the file in portrait mode.
And I didn't ask the screen res of the XDA. I asked the res required for Today wallpaer, and contact photos. And besides, the screen res is 240 x 320. Where'd you get 176 x 220 from?
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It's also in the help screen available right in the camera app. Very nice feature, and there are a few others. I'm rather impressed for a "free" built-in camera and video recorder.
And besides, the screen res is 240 x 320. Where'd you get 176 x 220 from
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i did a search
what makes you think that the today screen would not use the same res that the screen use ? it's like that on a pc
and if a smaller picture or larger picture is used it get resized to fit the screen
i'm sure a theme editor would be helpfull in both making today themes and get info about sizes
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what makes you think that the today screen would not use the same res that the screen use ? it's like that on a pc
and if a smaller picture or larger picture is used it get resized to fit the screen
i'm sure a theme editor would be helpfull in both making today themes and get info about sizes
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You try transferring a 240x320 image to your XDA then "set as Today Wallpaper". Because of the top and bottom bars, the actual space for the wallpaper is more like a square shape, so your image is scaled down to fit this gap, and you get white borders on the left and right.
And yes, I do need a theme editor. I'm on the case
Hi all.
I was looking through http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44560 My Today Screen. and a topic that quickly interested me was lost in the middle of it. I figured I would open up a new thread and get the information out there about it.
Orientation aware Themes. Basically you can use two different wallpapers. One for portrait mode and one for landscape mode. I want to give the credit to Jacob-MDA as his was the first post I found in this thread about it.
You need 3 files. 2 Others are optional
REQUIRED
*.tsk file //Your Task file, it will have all the color information in it.
tdywater_240_320.gif //Today Screen wallpaper for PORTRAIT Mode
tdywater_320_240.gif //Today Screen wallpaper for LANDSCAPE Mode
OPTIONAL
stwater_240_320.gif //Start Menu Background for PORTRAIT Mode
stwater_320_240.gif //Start Menu Background for LANDSCAPE Mode
The numbers in the filename indicate the size of the GIF image by pixels, in width*height. so tdywater_240_320.gif is 240 Pixels wide and 320 pixels high.
TO USE.
The image files contain NO color information for the theme. You will still have to use or make your own theme to get the colors that you want. Load the theme and select it under the settings/today panel.
Once you have your theme selected. Drop your *water_###_###.gif files into the \Windows directory. When prompted overwrite the files that are already there. They were created by the theme when it is selected.
Examples
tdywater_240_320.GIF and stwater_240_320.GIF
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Results in
AND tdywater_320_240.GIF and stwater_320_240.GIF
Results in
Again, Please note that the title bars and other colors specified in the theme are not altered by these changes.
good info
I've made such themes, but my top menubar always turns out either grayscale or plain black. None of the theme-maker programs out seem to work very well for WM5 unfortunately; at this time they are more geared toward WM 2003.
TBCompDesign: great info. If it's not already there, could I ask you to stick this on the Wiki?
Grazie tanto!
V
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I've made such themes, but my top menubar always turns out either grayscale or plain black. None of the theme-maker programs out seem to work very well for WM5 unfortunately; at this time they are more geared toward WM 2003.
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Try this works great for WM5.
http://www.codeppc.com/telechargements/themegence/themegence.htm
Found here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439662
Searches returned very little....nothing useful....
Thanks,
Kev
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2709349&postcount=12
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2709349&postcount=12
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That's doesn't appear the same clock. When I installed it it changed the icons and text for Call History and Calendar to the same dark gray as the clock. Also, the clock in the link posted by The-Kevster seems to be a lot darker - almost, but not quite, black, whereas the one in your link appears (to my eyes at least) to be lighter.
Unless I'm doing something wrong...
I have a rom for you with that clock. It is the latest pdaviet rom for the diamond. If you need it let me know. It is superfastttt. WIth no major bugs.
i don't remember where from i got it so i uploaded it for you here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/164026938/tnyynt_Manila_Black_Clock.cab
enjoy!
Its called Holy Clock... disable TF3D(start>settings>today>itemstab), install the cab file, then enable TF3D again
The problem I've got with these clocks is that whereas the normal white Manila clock has a nice graduated background, every black version I have tried has a background which is very blocky (it looks as though the backgrounds to the numbers are very highly compressed jpg's).
Is there a version of the black clock available where the background to the numbers isn't blocky?
EDIT*** OK, on further investigation I can see that what most people appear to have done when creating the black clocks is take the white background and basically turn it in to a negative image. I have just tried this myself and the result is just as blocky, so it's simply a case of this blockiness not showing up very much on the white versions. On the black versions it sticks out like a sore thumb. Basically in order to smooth it out the background will need to be completely redrawn. I have neither the skills or the patience to do this.
I've found the clock that I'm after, and it is the clock that is in the White Manila Theme. The clock background appears to be much smoother when I apply this to my phone, instead of using some of the other black clocks that I've tried.
Here is a screenshot to better explain what I'm talking about. The image has been uploaded as an uncompressed .bmp
The clock on the left is the one you posted, and the one on the right is from the White theme. Both pictures have been brightened up a bit (each by the same amount) to better show what I mean:
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I know people will probably claim that the one on the right is blocky also, but when it is at its correct brightness it doesn't stand out as much and appears a lot smoother to my eyes.
How do I go about extracting this clock from the White theme to be used on the standard Black Manila theme?
hi guys,
i'm using a 800x480 picture for my wallpaper but when i select it to be my wallpaper, i'm given a orange box to select the area I want. But isn't the resolution correct?
Yes, but you have to disable the "wallpaper scrolling" feature to have a static wallpaper. Not sure where you find this in the touchwiz settings as I'm using launcher pro, but should be an option somewhere.
No, the correct resolution for wallpapers is 960x800 pixels.
ngkkv said:
hi guys,
i'm using a 800x480 picture for my wallpaper but when i select it to be my wallpaper, i'm given a orange box to select the area I want. But isn't the resolution correct?
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The wallpaper should be 960x800 to be the correct size (to allow for the scrolling to new screens).
When you apply the wallpaper, you need to hold your finger on the edge of the box and drag so it enlarges.
tameracingdriver said:
The wallpaper should be 960x800 to be the correct size (to allow for the scrolling to new screens).
When you apply the wallpaper, you need to hold your finger on the edge of the box and drag so it enlarges.
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I see I see. thanks... yea, i dragged the edge of the box for my 800x480 already.any free picture editing software to recommend?
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The wallpaper should be 960x800 to be the correct size (to allow for the scrolling to new screens).
When you apply the wallpaper, you need to hold your finger on the edge of the box and drag so it enlarges.
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curious why you say it has to be that large to allow scrolling
mine's 640 X 480 and it's still 3 times larger than the orange box (before i resize it up) and fills all 7 home screens and scrolls across em fine
resolution is actually great -
i'm trying to learn something so the question w background is for real, not trying to contest
the first picture is what i uploaded to the phone, the white box in the 2nd picture is what displays as the wall paper
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I see I see. thanks... yea, i dragged the edge of the box for my 800x480 already.any free picture editing software to recommend?
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Paint.net is a pretty good free picture editing software. Could also check out Gimp.
hi all, how do i disable the scrolling? i can't seem to get 800x480 nicely on my screen.
Hi, I just bought the 7 inch onn tablet (2022 model). I found that the pixels are not in a perfect square shape. Despite the screen resolution being 1024x600, the physical screen window is actually more like 16:9. This screen looks like one of those used in the portable dvd players back in the day, which is the same 1024x600 resolution but maintains a 16:9 aspect ratio. This means each pixel is actually a rectangle shape instead of a square shape. In other words, everything on the screen is actually slimmer than it should be:
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Even the official picture/render on Walmart's website looks squashed, just look at the icons:
Now if you don't see anything wrong and/or think I'm crazy, here is a Google image search for a circle shape, note that all circles look squashed, like an oval:
So I tried to change the screen resolution to 1024x576, to trick the system to think this is the resolution and then it would be a proper match for the 16:9 aspect ratio. I used "adb shell wm size" for this. However, after I made the change I found there are black bars on both sides, so basically it only uses 576 pixels instead of 600 pixels, leaving the unused area black, which is not what I wanted:
Then I tried different 16:9 aspect ratios, such as 1280x720, 1366x768 and 1920x1080, and also different densities from 80 to 480. They all have the same black bars on both sides, I also tried the scaling option, but both "auto" and "off" gave me the same result. It seems like the system is stick to the scaling and not willing to stretch the image. I then found the "faded-area" option which should be the "overscan" equivalent for older Androids. But this option does not work at all. Even if I set it to some numbers, it still shows "none" and won't take any effect:
So now I'm stuck here. I wonder if there are ways to change the screen resolution and at the same time stretch the image to full screen. The current/default settings (1024x600) is not looking right, as everything is squashed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.