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Any advice from Universal owners would be welcome. I need an unlocked tri or quad band phone and I am ready to buy now. I see that Hermes has 2.0 mp camera which I read is a big improvement. I am not that interested in keyboards and have heard that hermes predecessor (magician?) had problems...so I am concerned about having a slide out keyboard that I do not need which might cause problems in future. The hermes has upgraded blue tooth and usb if I am not mistaken as well as EDGE? Universal has SD while hermes has mini sd.
Any suggestions from Universal owners if I should get my Unlocked Universal now or if I should wait for Hermes???
thanks
scott
scottshort said:
I am not that interested in keyboards and have heard that hermes predecessor (magician?) had problems...
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If you're not interested in keyboards, the Universal really shouldn't be a choice because it has the biggest keyboard of all HTC devices.
You say that you're ready to buy now, you can start with the Universal. If you don't like it, you could always sell it and get a Hermes when they come out. That's what I would do.
I understand that Keyboard is not on your priority list. However do consider the VGA screen on the uniersal. It is really the best screen I have ever seen. As I do a lot of net browsing a smaller QVGA screen is somewhat a deterrent for me.
Regards
thanks
Thanks all for advice. I have stage fright in making my purchase decision!! I am ready to buy now, but am now concerned that the Universal is already outdated....BUT the hermes wont be available as unlocked for some time....(you can probably understand how my last pocket pc was a phillips nino!!....I keep waiting for the best, and by the time it is available...there is a new best right around the corner!)
From your experience, is the universal a good machine? Will I have huge problems out of the box? Will I need ROM upgrade for it to work?? I am not a super techy guy (don't understand much about modifying these machines and am frankly afraid that I might mess it up) and this machine will need to last me for at least 5 years....I am not one to purchase the latest model each year....
Will I really miss all of the new additions present in the Hermes model?? such as 2.0 mp camera (reviews have said the 1.3 mp cam sucks), and all of the newer email capabilities edge? utms? Or do you think for a regular user that I won't miss them??
Some things that I want for sure:
Blue tooth STEREO phone and mp3 headset combo (so I can keep this brick stored in my bag and make and receive calls without it clipped to my belt all the time....and listen to mp3s in stereo....is this possible?
Voice commands from bluetooth headset...possible?
If there was an unlocked model similar to hermes available now without keypad...I would consider....but only thing I have seen is eten g500 with integrated gps...looks cool but only 1.3 mp camera and no wifi....so I do not see anything else available on market that is better than universal
thanks for any advice/experience you can offer
scott
srmz said:
I understand that Keyboard is not on your priority list. However do consider the VGA screen on the uniersal. It is really the best screen I have ever seen. As I do a lot of net browsing a smaller QVGA screen is somewhat a deterrent for me.
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I have to disagree with the screen part.
HX4700 has the best VGA screen IMO.
Chatbox said:
I have to disagree with the screen part.
HX4700 has the best VGA screen IMO.
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Let's not get off subject here. Yes, HX4700 has a really neat screen. However, it is not a phone.
what about prophet?
I have been reading about prophet...as a possible alternative to universal......I am worried that 200 mhz processor might be too slow for skype...one review said it was really slow.....but then another review said it was as fast as universal... has anyone used universal with voip or skype ...does it work ok??
Thanks for any comments.... is there a huge benefit to having universal's umts and 3G (most of my time is in america).....or would the prophet's (or Hermes) EDGE be seen by current universal owners as a big plus..and a better choice today...?
thanks again for the advice
scott
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I have been reading about prophet...as a possible alternative to universal......I am worried that 200 mhz processor might be too slow for skype...one review said it was really slow.....but then another review said it was as fast as universal... has anyone used universal with voip or skype ...does it work ok??
Thanks for any comments.... is there a huge benefit to having universal's umts and 3G (most of my time is in america).....or would the prophet's (or Hermes) EDGE be seen by current universal owners as a big plus..and a better choice today...?
thanks again for the advice
scott
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Scott, currently 3G and UTMS, none of that stuff is avaliable here in the US. So if you spend a majority of your time here, it probably won't do you any good. EDGE will, but like I said it will only make a real noticable difference if you tether with a laptop and use it as a modem.
The 200mhz processor in the Prophet and Wizard series is a nice processor. For day to day usage, you probably won't even know that it's 200mhz. For Skype (If you use that feature a lot), I would steer away from the OMAP processor. I know some people say this and say that, in reality, it's really not a fast processer when coming down to run memory hogging big programs. The one thing I REALLY REALLY liked about the OMAP processor is how long those phones lasted on one charge. I can really use my Wizard all freak'n day and it would laugh at me. My Universal...that's a different story. :lol:
i've been using this phone for approximately 6 months now, and now i feel rather disappointing to it ((
the phone is expensive, and it seems that it's equiped with good hardware specs, but its performance is just sucks imo.
these are the things that disappointing me....
1, there is siginificant lag with regard to its screen responsiveness (and almost everything)
2, its camera function is quite hard to use, it takes about 3-4 sec to get a shot, and the picture is easily turns out to be blur if the phone/focal slightly moved/not in steady condition by the end of the shot.
3, the phone is also very easily to get overheated.
4, games for wvga version are really few as well as software; the only emulator works good for this phone is morphgear, but its fps is too low while playing gba and snes games and that is when sounds turned off... on the other hand, due to the fact that wm 6.x does not support multitouch, so there is really no point to use such emulators, cos even rpgs requires multitouch.
in additonal, I still remember that my original 8 gb sd card died after 2 weeks since i bought it, and the customer adviser told me that i have to wait for monthes in order to get my replacement which was really pissed me off.
actually, I have considered iphone as an alternative before i bought this phone, but at the time, it seems everyone owns an iphone and I want something different, so I finnally bought blackstone.
i'm not some crazy iphone fan but blackstone has been easily beated after I compared my phone with my friend's iphone; games on iphone look great and they have tons of 3rd party software and games, its gba emulator which is called gpsphone runs pokemon between 150fps- and 225 in full speed and when sounds turned on and etc....
I know there are certainly something good about blackstone(maybe wm device), but for the price, i think i will only rate blackstone 6 out 10.
whatever, I feel grateful to these chefs who cook ROMs for us, my phone has already improved a lots because of them, and I really appreciate that!!
but for me, I think I won't buy htc's phone anymore.....
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i've been using this phone for approximately 6 months now, and now i feel rather disappointing to it ((
the phone is expensive, and it seems that it's equiped with good hardware specs, but its performance is just sucks imo.
these are the things that disappointing me....
1, there is siginificant lag with regard to its screen responsiveness (and almost everything)
2, its camera function is quite hard to use, it takes about 3-4 sec to get a shot, and the picture is easily turns out to be blur if the phone/focal slightly moved/not in steady condition by the end of the shot.
3, the phone is also very easily to get overheated.
4, games for wvga version are really few as well as software; the only emulator works good for this phone is morphgear, but its fps is too low while playing gba and snes games and that is when sounds turned off... on the other hand, due to the fact that wm 6.x does not support multitouch, so there is really no point to use such emulators, cos even rpgs requires multitouch.
in additonal, I still remember that my original 8 gb sd card died after 2 weeks since i bought it, and the customer adviser told me that i have to wait for monthes in order to get my replacement which was really pissed me off.
actually, I have considered iphone as an alternative before i bought this phone, but at the time, it seems everyone owns an iphone and I want something different, so I finnally bought blackstone.
i'm not some crazy iphone fan but blackstone has been easily beated after I compared my phone with my friend's iphone; games on iphone look great and they have tons of 3rd party software and games, its gba emulator which is called gpsphone runs pokemon between 150fps- and 225 in full speed and when sounds turned on and etc....
I know there are certainly something good about blackstone(maybe wm device), but for the price, i think i will only rate blackstone 6 out 10.
whatever, I feel grateful to these chefs who cook ROMs for us, my phone has already improved a lots because of them, and I really appreciate that!!
but for me, I think I won't buy htc's phone anymore.....
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why dont you try android there is alot of stuff for it
TC,
Based on what you're telling me (with gaming being a strong criterion), I strongly suggest you just get an iPhone or wait for the GSM-Pre which should be coming in about a month or two (assuming a next-week announcement).
I've been using the TouchHD for a while, and I can agree that the phone gets warm, but by no means hot, so how hot are we talking about here (I understand that the perception of heat is indeed a subjective one)?
And what exactly do you mean by "significant" lag on screen responsiveness? I honestly have not experienced that. Have you installed programs to the brim on your phone on the device memory? Do you actually close your applications? (If you have too many programs running, it'll turn into a tortoise). For the first week, my roommate had no idea that the X-button was not close, but a mere minimize on his Toshiba. He had a constant 10 ~ 11 applications running in the background!
Cheers.
Honestly, i would not buy an iPhone. it's a good device but it's for kids!
have you considered flashing a cooked ROM?
there are plenty out there in the Roms Section of blackstone, personally i prefer Dutty's ROMs, try few of them as most of them have updated Video Drivers which gives you a better graphical and more enjoyable experience.
let us know how things will go
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TC,
Based on what you're telling me (with gaming being a strong criterion), I strongly suggest you just get an iPhone or wait for the GSM-Pre which should be coming in about a month or two (assuming a next-week announcement).
I've been using the TouchHD for a while, and I can agree that the phone gets warm, but by no means hot, so how hot are we talking about here (I understand that the perception of heat is indeed a subjective one)?
And what exactly do you mean by "significant" lag on screen responsiveness? I honestly have not experienced that. Have you installed programs to the brim on your phone on the device memory? Do you actually close your applications? (If you have too many programs running, it'll turn into a tortoise). For the first week, my roommate had no idea that the X-button was not close, but a mere minimize on his Toshiba. He had a constant 10 ~ 11 applications running in the background!
Cheers.
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WOW you mention games 5 separate time if you include Pokemon (how old are you) buy a ps3 or Xbox and a cheap phone to make phone calls, this is a high end device that when used by people who know what there doing responds excellently I have only run a game to play with my kid period
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WOW you mention games 5 separate time if you include Pokemon (how old are you) buy a ps3 or Xbox and a cheap phone to make phone calls, this is a high end device that when used by people who know what there doing responds excellently I have only run a game to play with my kid period
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Ozmoran,
I believe you quoted the wrong person. Lawl. Having said that, well, if he wants to have a gaming device and a phone in one, I guess that he is entitled to his own. But yes, usually, I'd say that Windows Mobile is for business/professional use. I highly doubt it was built for gaming.
Cheers.
everyday we have new roms, how about iphone????? i think hd has its own attraction. good luck!
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Ozmoran,
I believe you quoted the wrong person. Lawl. Having said that, well, if he wants to have a gaming device and a phone in one, I guess that he is entitled to his own. But yes, usually, I'd say that Windows Mobile is for business/professional use. I highly doubt it was built for gaming.
Cheers.
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oops LOL my bad.........
Just finished working it was only 4am in Thailand
It sounds like iphone is more suited to what your needing a phone for.(op) I agree that wm is more a business device with gaming as an after thought. I do like teeter if I'm stuck someplace and need to kill a few min.
The sheer number of awesome cooked ROMS and the options that brings to the table is what keeps me going. Never boring!
that's not my first intention to bring you down on blackstone, and I admit that gaming is 1 strong part for me, and I still believe that there are a lots of people out there have the similar feeling as mine.
cos I think generally, if a phone has good performance on gaming, than it should also perform good on many other things. e.g. with regard to pc, gaming pc can do everything that normal(i don't know whether it is the correct word or not) pc can do, cos it got better cpu and gpu and other hardware components.
and i think same things apply to a mobile device as well; people compare hardware specs carefully before they bought a new phone, what they do that for? i can't think of other reasons apart from gaming and strong performance, and I think they are always closely related to each other.
maybe i'm wrong on this opinion but before somebody refering me as kid or childish, show me examples of what gaming device can't really do in comparison to other business or professional oriented phones, and what the difference?
I complaint about htc is becasue I feel they contributed very little to my phone after I bought it, cos all the improvements i got are from these chefs who cook roms for us, and i already mentioned that in my first post on this thread.
on the other hand, neo2007 is trying to develop graphics driver pack in order to improve the graphics performance for our phone, i don't knwo what's the final results gonna be, but at least he is trying atm.
we paid alot to this phone(at least for me), however, what we get from htc?aren't the apps and games on iphone make our phone look stupid, they already got more than 10000 useful things in their app store(maybe even more) to make their phone better, but what we got? there are still a lots of software and games don't fully support wvga and etc..
and that just makes me feel that microsoft/htc does not pay great attention on our device and their phone users.
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that's not my first intention to bring you down on blackstone, and I admit that gaming is 1 strong part for me, and I still believe that there are a lots of people out there have the similar feeling as mine.
cos I think generally, if a phone has good performance on gaming, than it should also perform good on many other things. e.g. with regard to pc, gaming pc can do everything that normal(i don't know whether it is the correct word or not) pc can do, cos it got better cpu and gpu and other hardware components.
and i think same things apply to a mobile device as well; people compare hardware specs carefully before they bought a new phone, what they do that for? i can't think of other reasons apart from gaming and strong performance, and I think they are always closely related to each other.
maybe i'm wrong on this opinion but before somebody refering me as kid or childish, show me examples of what gaming device can't really do in comparison to other business or professional oriented phones, and what the difference?
I complaint about htc is becasue I feel they contributed very little to my phone after I bought it, cos all the improvements i got are from these chefs who cook roms for us, and i already mentioned that in my first post on this thread.
on the other hand, neo2007 is trying to develop graphics driver pack in order to improve the graphics performance for our phone, i don't knwo what's the final results gonna be, but at least he is trying atm.
we paid alot to this phone(at least for me), however, what we get from htc?aren't the apps and games on iphone make our phone look stupid, they already got more than 10000 useful things in their app store(maybe even more) to make their phone better, but what we got? there are still a lots of software and games don't fully support wvga and etc..
and that just makes me feel that microsoft/htc does not pay great attention on our device and their phone users.
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to some degree i agree with u...
for the price paid for this phone, it does NOT measure up to its 'standards'...
i initially was irritated all the time, but have gotten used to it now..
it's actually not dat bad at all... has good hardware, can be used to do alot of things with..
but not many good games are out there for the HD...
one thing that REALLY dissapointed me was the camera not having a flash.. cuz with the amount i paid for this phone the LEAST they cud have provided me with on the phone is a flash (which actually aint that much of a request to ask for, for such and advanced phone).. and of course the video taking.. both camera and video recording in the dark suck.. but otherwise i am satisfied with it...
Just saw this:
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/11/11/htc-hd2-retail-rom-benchmarks-slower-than-before/
WTF!? How did they manage this stupid stuff?
It is a challenge for xda community
Just Windows' patches which will slow the system.
Lets just hope they get it sorted or I will be flashing with some new ROM
It's still very fast. I know it smokes the hell out of my Touch HD!
Yeah its faster but you do want it running to its full potential. That would be like only having a windows system (Joke).
srsly, who cares about generic benchmarks? as long as the overall performance is good - and coreplayer proves that - it doesn't matter ...
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srsly, who cares about generic benchmarks? as long as the overall performance is good - and coreplayer proves that - it doesn't matter ...
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I agree...for now! wait until the great people here on xda start tweaking it.
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srsly, who cares about generic benchmarks? as long as the overall performance is good - and coreplayer proves that - it doesn't matter ...
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Guess you didn't hit the link. The problem IS overall performance. The device is now suffering from lag & stuttering compared to the pre-release ROM according to the the Italian guys.
The god damn Pre-release ROM was fine, HTC just managed to screw it up. 95% of those who will get the phone don't give a flying hoot or know about XDA-devs. It's a major fail from HTC.
Yet coreplayer is faster in retail?
just wait for the device ... xmoo nor any other hd2 owner reports any lag ...
maybe its just the italian version, maybe its just their device. we will know shortly.
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Guess you didn't hit the link. The problem IS overall performance. The device is now suffering from lag & stuttering compared to the pre-release ROM according to the the Italian guys.
The god damn Pre-release ROM was fine, HTC just managed to screw it up. 95% of those who will get the phone don't give a flying hoot or know about XDA-devs. It's a major fail from HTC.
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The CorePlayer benchmark seems to make the retail ROM look better.
And has someone not said that SPB benchmark is pretty crap? That program is over a year old now.
A few people here actually have HD2s and have run them in everyday situations.
Benchmarks are all well and good. But real life performance means more.
A graphics card can have the best benchmark performance in the world, but have terrible real world performance.
Do you actually own an HD2?
Benchmarks are all well and good. But I'd rather see what the device can do in real life, rather than a simulated situation.
The blind faith of some of the people on this forum is extraordinary.
The Acer Neotouch is now 73% faster than the HD2 on one particular CPU benchmark, despite having the same CPU and only 256MB of RAM where the HD2 has 448MB. This is an absolutely appalling result for HTC! What on Earth have they done to cripple the Snapdragon CPU in this way? It's not just the Neotouch, either - other benchmarks give the TG01 a similar edge.
And seriously, people think this doesn't matter because the devs here at XDA will fix it? For real?! How many months do you think you're going to have to wait before there's even a Hard-SPL released? And what about the people who don't like flashing custom ROMs because they don't like using ROM images that are chock full of bugs? What about those who don't even know this website exists?
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The blind faith of some of the people on this forum is extraordinary.
The Acer Neotouch is now 73% faster than the HD2 on one particular CPU benchmark, despite having the same CPU and only 256MB of RAM where the HD2 has 448MB. This is an absolutely appalling result for HTC! What on Earth have they done to cripple the Snapdragon CPU in this way? It's not just the Neotouch, either - other benchmarks give the TG01 a similar edge.
And seriously, people think this doesn't matter because the devs here at XDA will fix it? For real?! How many months do you think you're going to have to wait before there's even a Hard-SPL released? And what about the people who don't like flashing custom ROMs because they don't like using ROM images that are chock full of bugs? What about those who don't even know this website exists?
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Lol - amusing! Do you have a particular hatred for this phone, or shares in Apple or something; because you spend a lot of time bashing the HD2. I am not a fanboy or have blind faith but personally I prefer to read reviews from established review sites and listen to the people who have the device to decide whether the device is crippled not just a test from a benchmark application that is out of date and not exactly reliable. have you actually tested this device yourself Shasarak?
Sorry thats bull****. I had the beta ROM and I'm not on the release ROM and the HD2 performs like hell! And YES - in CorePlayer too!
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I am not a fanboy or have blind faith but personally I prefer to read reviews from established review sites and listen to the people who have the device to decide whether the device is crippled
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Are you suggesting that SoloPalmari are not an established review site, or they don't really have an HD2?
http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...nta-del-prototipo&sl=it&tl=en&history_state0=
EDIT: I'm also not so much concerned with the benchmark data as I am with the general impression that the phone has gone from being lag-free to lagging quite perceptibly, and from being stable to locking up so badly it needed a soft reset when running ActiveSync. All of the reviews, previews and videos up to now have emphasised the fact that the phone is really slick and fluid in general use, and I think that's one of the major reasons why people are so excited; it now seems that this fluidity and absence of lag may only apply to the pre-release version.
Having said that, the fact that another phone using identical hardware except that it has only about half the amount memory can run any CPU task at all 73% faster than the HD2 can is pretty f*cking sad.
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Sorry thats bull****. I had the beta ROM and I'm not on the release ROM and the HD2 performs like hell! And YES - in CorePlayer too!
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The SoloPalmari data specifically mentions that the CorePlayer benchmark was not affected by the slow-down - it is actually marginally faster than the pre-release version (although still slower than the Acer). CorePlayer isn't the problem - it's everything else.
It will be great if someone can make the test with the retail version
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Benchmarks are all well and good. But real life performance means more.
A graphics card can have the best benchmark performance in the world, but have terrible real world performance.
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That is both untrue and a terrible analogy. We aren't comparing two different GPUs, here; the graphical equivalent is that we've got two otherwise identical PC's equipped with graphics cards that both use the same GPU. One graphics card has half the amount of RAM that the other has. But the PC containing the low-memory card is managing a 73% higher frame-rate in games. What does that tell you about the quality of the driver software on the slower machine? (And in this case, of course, the drivers can't be upgraded).
Or is it your argument that Acer and Toshiba have both specifically tweaked their firmware in order to maximise their SPB benchmark results?
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It will be great if someone can make the test with the retail version
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That's exactly what SoloPalmari have done. It's the retail version that is producing the bad benchmarks and that lags in use (according to them).
The thing really strange is that nobody on this forum has lags in use...
There is a difference between the returns of the xda owners feedbacks and tests of the Italian website...
Hey guys,
On the market for a power user PDA -- prerequisites include:
800 MHz+ processor
3.5mm audio port
powerful graphics (for games and videos).
fast internet experience.
Anyways, I'm tempted by the HD2, mainly due to its stunning screen and its capacitive screen. However I've been tempted by the Acer F1 due to its better scores on benchmarks, and the Omnia/Omnia Pro for the better battery life and keyboard respectively.
My main concern with the HD2 is its battery life -- 1350mAh? A bit low on a device with a 4 inch screen.
I could suppose wait for the HD mini...but there aren't much information out there yet that I can find....
Anyways...give me more reasons to buy the HD2! Is it good for games? How's the internet browsing on it?
You won't be disappointed with the HD2. It is the best device I have ever purchased, bar none. It meets all of your requirements, or exceeds them. Once you have it customized the way you want it, or "make it mine," as HTC says, you'll be extremely pleased with it. It is fast, powerful, customizable, and the battery life is good... better than I expected. I got worse battery performance on my last Nokia touch phone, with a much smaller screen, and less features.
The best reason!
See pic below!
salo1 said:
See pic below!
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It's highly likely that, that pic is a fake...
Reason to buy
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It's highly likely that, that pic is a fake...
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Sorry, but its likely to be real. There is no reason it should be fake.
I just got the HD2 as an upgrade just a few days ago, its just blown me away!!
Everything runs so fast, all the things u can customise..totally amazing. I highly recommend getting 1
It's the very single photo showing it. Don't you think someone else would have seen it and taken a pic of it?
There's no "reason" for anyone to come with dozens of fakes everytime Apple is expected to launch a new product either... yet it always happens.
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Sorry, but its likely to be real. There is no reason it should be fake.
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it isnt necassarily fake, thas IS windows mobile 7, none of us will (should) have it yet, but its very likely its some top dog from microsoft showing their new OS off on the most powerful phone available
for me it's the best on the market today, no question about it! it's stubborn like a wild horse at first but once you tame it, nothing else comes close. i can't imagine the phone which will make me sell this.
Can anyone comment on how it would compare with the Acer F1 (which outperforms the HD2 on benchmarks), and the Omnia (which has AMOLED)?
And how much does current programs/games use the capacitive screen? It's untenable to play games without the ability to multi-tap -- but I don't think many games out there allow for that right?
Furthermore, does it have USB Host?
it is just hd2
The acer F1 has half the RAM of the HD2, thats a good reason ;D
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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WinMo
If HTC would rerelease HD2 as a rebranded Android phone, this phone would sell like hotcakes considering that it is now a free phone.
Shame to hear you are disappointed, I only can say good things about my Leo
I guess each one has very different experiences regarding same device
id have to agree with jerryparid. the hd2 in general is an awesome piece of kit, purely let down by the OS.
running linux, and android, this thing is a little beaut! (thanks to the guys in the forum for making that a possibility)
Actually the PSX games run so smooth (60fps) on the HD2 the games on the HD2 blow away the games on other systems. I was shocked when I saw the PSX emulator on the HD2. Ran better then a real PSX. Plus you can actually hook up a PS3 BT controller to it and game with a real pad I say HD2 gaming is far far superior to iphone or android. Native games don't seem to have much development because 1. WP7 is coming and will bump specs up really high. Its easy to dev for a small number of phones with limited specs, but WM has 1000's of phones a year come out with specs of all types from 200mhz to 1ghz. If you were to really develop a real game like the iphone for WM you would only have like 4 phones that could run it. Then the 1000 phones that couldn't run it would all be pissed. With iphone they all have the same 1 phone so thats not an issue. With android the oldest phone is a year old so their specs are more refined. Hope this explains how to get better games you will be happy with and why there aren't as many great native games on WM. Once you get the proper rom loaded and it tweaked right the HD2 kicks ass and is super stable. I hope you put the work in to get yours where you need it. If you do I'm sure you will be very happy with it and can hold out till we get a working copy of Android on it.
firebadbobb said:
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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because you haven't found the good games yet
Leo is the best phone/pda I've owned and knocks the socks off the iphone
yeah i forgot to mention the ps1 emulator. it does run well. that is always the main program i show to new people.i never thought of the dev side to things. good point. i still wonder why the lack of exclusive games though. speaking of wm7, i hear its up in the air whether or not we get that upgrade. sorry bout typos. i am using it right now to post.
yeah, i know this is the wrong section for what im about to ask but, im getting replies here. i made a thread but nio one is biting. is there a way to install hspl without a pc? my pc died and i have to goti my moms house 30 mins away to gain access to one. again sorry for asking in wrong place.
WTF are you people on about??? talk about fanboys lol the powervr gpu in the iphone kicks the ass out of adreno lol it can do over 50 million triangles a second more as far as processing power goes snapdragon kicks the ass out of the apple a4 but then again my desire kick the ass out of ur HD's lol
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
firebadbobb said:
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
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well its true lol if your gunna have debate you need to base it on fact not what device is your fave the iphone has better games because its gpu is alot more powerful end of, if you wanna know what snapdragon is capable of check out this vid of nova on the desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vn2DuPeE-E
and need for speed shift on the nexus one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfJVqFlVAtE
firebadbobb said:
hey man im not trying to turn this thread into a flamewar. why you gotta throw out the fanboy word? lol. i was trying to figure out y the iphone produces great looking games and our hd2s dont have much. btw i found diablo for my phone lol
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Because you haven't written them yet.
jerryparid said:
If HTC would rerelease HD2 as a rebranded Android phone, this phone would sell like hotcakes
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They did, it's called the EVO 4G. And it did sell like hotcakes.
I thought it was a phone, not a gaming console
caise i havent written them yet. lmao. point. yeah i love games. if i can get some good games on here, then i will.
I love my HD2, awesome piece of kit, let down by the OS though!
Yet it still works a treat!
firebadbobb said:
as the title goes. i have had this thing sibce it came out and i have had to so much to make it decent. with such great hardware, why does it lack great looking games? i had an iphone 3g and its games are great. i mean my hd2 is more powerfull than that and its games look worse than iphone. why?
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It's as some of the others say, it's an OS-level problem. iOS simply allows for much better game design, which is why games on iPhone tend to look better than they do on other smartphone OSes.
WinMo is a very established OS, but without a good underlying design, programing something spectacular for it is very tough. This is not a problem exclusive to WinMo, but I think WinMo epitomizes the problem very well. When your OS requires a 1Ghz CPU just to get anywhere close to the smoothness of a phone using a 412Mhz CPU, there is a serious problem.
When your OS requires phone manufacturers to develop custom UIs to make usability better, there is an even worse problem.
the phone hardware? is great....
BUUUT what makes the phone suck-monkey balls b/c window period!
i love window to stay within the pc world not cell-phone!
conquer anyone?
I have a PSP to play video games with. thats not what i do with my phone.
dowwin said:
the phone hardware? is great....
BUUUT what makes the phone suck-monkey balls b/c window period!
i love window to stay within the pc world not cell-phone!
conquer anyone?
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I very recently bought a TP2 and a HD2.
Despite the noticeably slower Sense and smaller screen I'll be keeping the TP2 and selling the HD2.
I still feel keyboard is a massive win over touch screen & Swype.
Also I've not been to impressed with the stability of big time roms for the HD2 so I've only been using official roms.